Thread 3783292

Do we just remember it fondly because we were kids?

maybe just try playing it and seeing how great it still is for yourself

>>3783292 (OP)
I played it recently without an emulator fast forward and save states, and it was STILL awesome.

>>3783292 (OP)
Nah, I played it for the first time last year and had a great time

>>3783292 (OP)
Played it in university when I first got into emulation. As a first game I tried on SNES, I was really impressed and regularly replayed Crono Trigger many years after. It's really great.

>>3783292 (OP)
It is to this day still one of the best executed RPGs ever made.

>>3783395
>one of the best executed
Well put. I don't know how the development went or what was cut, but it's rare to play a game that feels so polished. I could imagine they knew what they were doing and were able to do it without unforeseen issues. That's the impression I got.

Usually in RPGs you gotta be understanding and forgive unfinished content here, flawed mechanics there.

it's the best gateway for normies to get into JRPGs for sure
but imo once you've played many rpgs, it is now pretty stale

>>3783421
>normies
Aren't you embarrassed to use this degenerate redditspeak here, little normalfag?

>>3783421
Yeah anything gets stale if you've consumed similar things before, so it depends on the player. It's why fans of series, or old gamers in general are so depressed. Too stupid to try new experiences.

>>3783444
>consumed
Viewing play as consumption is your problem, you enter the realm of acquiring a tolerance when you do that, a hamster needing a series of differently textured wheels.
Not a good fate.

nah, it's good.

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UA0Ul-y-gD8
>OC Remix WITH VOCALS/LYRICS
>(that wasn't that Zelda one)

you had to be there.

>>3783453
>Viewing play as consumption
Playing video games, yes.

I can smell your cope from here already

>>3783292 (OP)
Nope, played the game as grown man.

>>3783292 (OP)
I don't remember foundly of a bunch of childhood games. So maybe it's just good.

>>3783478
Play isn't consumption, it doesn't disappear, you can play a game again or read a book again or whatever. Your mind is infected by the content treadmill, constantly seeking for novelty to assuage an addiction. You're the one coping with the situation you were born into, but try recognition instead.

>>3783546
>it doesn't disappear, you can play a game again
Woah bro.. I think I need to digest what I just read..

Could you repeat that so I can experience it again?

>>3783610
The words are still there, read it again tomorrow or write it down and read it in a decade and maybe you'll actually get something else out of it.
Or, chase the dragon of "consumer culture".

>>3783613
Meh, doesn't feel the same as experiencing it for the first time.

>>3783292 (OP)
I played it first time as an adult, and it’s still the greatest JRPG of all time. FF6, FF9, Xenogears don’t really hold up. FF7 is as good as its reputation. SO2 has a lot of content. Suikoden 1&2 are amazing.

I didn’t have PSX as a kid.

>>3783623
Yes, it feels different, because you are different.
Constantly seeking novelty is just as bad a way to go as repeating the same thing over an over in stagnation.

>>3783640
>SO2 has a lot of content. Suikoden 1&2 are amazing
I'm unsure if 8 should get the remakes or the originals.

>>3783640
7 is good but honestly 9 mogs it in every way. 9 is hands down the best in the series, 7 can only tie for third with 6.

>>3783648
Good that you learned something today.

>>3783292 (OP)
I started replaying it just now. The graphics and music bring me joy. I ran into some scenes I missed on my first playthrough.

>>3783665
What a sad response, I learn new things everyday, everyone does. Brush the chip off your shoulder.

>>3783654
>7 is good but honestly 9 mogs it in every way. 9 is hands down the best in the series, 7 can only tie for third with 6.

Absolutely not, it's overall vastly inferior to both 7 and 8.
The only thing 9 can have over the others is more up to personal bias for the tone, characters (and 9 has some really bad ones), style and themes.

>>3783654
>>3783682
FFtards can't stop themselves, can they? They must shit the thread up with their inane ranking wars.

>>3783682
>implying that 8 is better than any game in the series aside from 2
that's some good bait anon

>>3783654
Every way is a stretch. Materia system is way more interesting than just learning abilities from equipment + Ozma is literally a boring aquarelle ball.

>>3783689
You would understand this if you could judge things rationally. Which you clearly can't since you've let the FF8 memes rot your brain.

>>3783701
i don't know any memes about 8. i've only played the miserable thing and suffered my way through the nonsensical story(the backstory about their parents was 1000x better) while dealing with insufferable pissant characters(again, their parents were much more compelling) while going through the tedious yet piss-easy gameplay.

also tetra master completely mogs triple triad and its stupid fucking rule change mechanics.

>>3783679
>I learn new things everyday
That's good!

>>3783712
>i don't know any memes about 8
You don't even know what a meme is.

>the backstory about their parents was 1000x better) while dealing with insufferable pissant characters(again, their parents were much more compelling
Which parents? You only partially follow one. Two if you're being very generous.

>tedious yet piss-easy gameplay
FF9 gameplay is far more tedious. FF8 has basically 0 grinding and is the most well paced FF of them all unless, while in FF9 to even learn skills you have to grind with gear and use specific gear for longer to learn stuff.
This is not even touching on the much worse narrative pacing.

>also tetra master completely mogs triple triad
Tetra master is infinitely worse than TT. It's clear they tried to make not-TT, but just made it worse, instead of trying to make a new good original minigame. Triple Triad is the most well regarded and successful FF minigame for a reason, while Tetra Master is forgotten.

You flat out proved you're a victim of meme and don't have anything valid to say while being blind to the issues of 9.

>>3783714
Yes, it is.

>>3783292 (OP)
Nah its still pretty good. Childish, but everything just works and its fun to play, with multiple challenges for different endings.

>>3783292 (OP)
I only played this game as an adult a few years ago and it's perfect. /thread

>>3783292 (OP)
What party members do you guys roll with? Do they have unique dialogue during scenes?
I'm thinking crono, lucca and marle. Already gave marle the power tabs I found.

Who the fuck played Chrono Trigger as a kid?

>>3783767
I did. Emulator, any game you want, for free!
I only played for half an hour because I thought the combat sucked and the frog was childish.

>>3783753
I think everyone is treated as being there in all scenes.

I went with Crono, Ayla, and Robo because I learned to spam Falcon Hit and Twister and I never use magic in RPGs unless I'm at a boss and these guys are the heaviest hitters for normal attacks.

>>3783292 (OP)
Naw. I never heard of it until I was an adult and loved it.

>>3783753
Marle and Lucca have attacks based on accuracy, not power. You threw those tabs away.

I like thief characters, so Marle, Ayla, and Crono: Marle for charm/steal, Ayla for double charm, Crono because he and Marle have an all party heal. Marle's Haste spell is awesome too.

>>3783292 (OP)
Nah I played it this year having never played it as a kid and it was pretty fun. The items and skills won't blow your mind or anything, but the pacing is very respectful

I played mother 2 straight after and that was an absolute slog, even with speeding up via the emulator

>>3783546
"Consumption" in this context isn't referring to whether or not the item is actually physically depleted. Rather, it's referring to the manner of interaction. Playing a game while scrolling your phone is simple consumption.

Giving it your full attention and thinking about it is thoughtful engagement, and this is when it becomes an actual hobby.

>>3783939
It seems to me that "consuming" is a poorly defined meme that switches between economic, anthropological, psychological, and pejorative meanings at will.
I find such a word to be very very dumb.

>>3783977
It's really not. Eating, scrolling you phone, shitting, while in a bathtub would be an analogon even you can comprehend.
Furthermore it's true, that TV shows are designed that people playing on their phones can follow the plot. Netflix expects it's users to be in the phone when watching shows.

>>3784031
It really is. Your personal definition isn't codified in any way and many people use the term interchangeably after in was made fashionable by sociologists decades ago. I can see you're a close-minded idiot who wants to "win", so please stop replying to me.

>>3783939
>Giving it your full attention and thinking about it is thoughtful engagement, and this is when it becomes an actual hobby.
Has this hobby given you anything of value?

>>3783977
>It seems to me that "consuming" is a poorly defined meme
It’s tuberculosis.

>>3784181
Consumption junction, what's your function?

>>3783292 (OP)
I disliked ATB in FF, but CT actually made good use of it. Pulling of a good AoE hit is satisfying. And the team work moves too. Great stuff.

>Cyrus sleeps here, avenged by his friend Glenn.
For a JRPG on SNES, this game is amazingly kino.

>>3783668
I actually forgot how great the trial scene is until I replayed.

I think something that modern game developers forget is that a game doesn’t need to be 400 fucking hours with a thin plot. Chrono Trigger is a short tight fun adventure. It never overstays its welcome and it’s keeps you invested with its weird twists, turns, and characters.

>>3783753
Robo's the strongest character, then Ayla, then Crono and Lucca are tied for third.
So some combination of those four.
>Chrono Trigger is easy enough that you don't need to-
Don't care. I gotta build a team, so I'm making a strong one.

>>3784831
So true. Something Sea of Stars failed to understand.

>>3784832
>gonna make a strong party.
I feel like when I go through the whole game, I usually have enough time to fill out every character's development. It gives me flexibility to choose the best party when I feel like it.

>Robo is the best.
Robo isn't just the best, his powers stand up on their own. He has his own AP heal tech. You can pair him with any other characters and it doesn't matter.

>>3783292 (OP)
6/10
Only nostalgiafags and zoomers with less than 30 games played in their lives think it's great

>>3785045
Lots of newcomers get their taste from youtubers who think Chrono Trigger is the best thing ever
>>3785071
>Low quality bait
When it's just a shill being a shill.

best JRPG ever how?
basic cliched childish story riddled with holes with cardboard characters with little interactions and sappy tween melodrama and simplistic underbaked combat, it's inoffensivity and brevity are it's only positives neither which propel it to greatness

>>3785045
This, the game is insultingly easy as well

>>3785037
>flexibility to choose the best party
Yes, I've found it pleasant to change parties on the fly, thanks to the simplicity. Later bosses might require switching armors, but that's about all the management you need.

Making Crono unavailable was a good call, to make room for playing around with other characters. Frog has become my favorite, with the crits, party heal, and a nice lookin' sprite.

The quests have been satisfying. It's nice to travel to the future and see a lush forest where before there was desert.
Next I'm going after Ozzie with Magus, Ayla and Robo, and then I think I'm ready for the finale.

its great but not even the best jrpg on SNES. earthbound was 100x more interesting, unique and memorable. FFVI has better music and presentation. DQV has a better story.

>>3785211
and FFV has the best, most fun and most replayable battle system. the only thing trigger does the best I think is having an iconic cast of characters

if you think people started liking chrono trigger because youtube or it's some nostalgia meme, you are a newfag. shit's been praised continually since release, before video reviews existed, long before this site existed, before most of you were born.

here's the thing, though, why do you kids care? is it just to poke at "old men"? saddest daddy issues ever.

>>3785211
>>3785213
>Earthbound 100x better
Earthbound was a unique game for the SNES. While technically an RPG, there were no other games like it. If Chrono Trigger is number two next to Earthbound, it's still awesome.
>FFVI had better music and presentation.
Agreed. And Chrono Trigger was still better. Games need more than music and presentation.
>DQ5 had a better story.
>FFV has best/most fun/replayable battle sys.
Agreed and agreed. And the other aspects of these games were so poor, that they weren't fit for translation. These aren't worth mentioning in same breath as Chrono Trigger. Go ahead and compare them to Chrono Cross if you must - they still suck.

>>3786104
>DQ V sucks

widely considered THE greatest rpg ever made, of all time (in japan). I certainly dont think its better than trigger but it doesnt "suck".

I played it for the first time last year on my Steam Deck. I have zero nostalgia for it, and honestly fucking hate JRPGs.

I now hate all JRPGs except for this one.

>>3786108
>>3786104
>Best game evah vs not worth translating.
Never played DQV, but not sure how these both can be true.

>>3787529
jrpgs were just a super niche genre in the west before FFVII. we didnt get FFV either and that game certainly isnt shit. its a really a shame because the snes DQ games are so good, the remake of 3 is one of the finest on the system IMO.

>>3787563
Enix was particularly bad about translating DQ for the west, DQIV reached the US over 2 years after the JP release and it was really outdated by then.

>>3786253
Out of curiosity, what JRPGs have you played?

>>3783292 (OP)
No it's genuinely one of the most impressive games ever made

>>3783292 (OP)
No, it did a lot of innovative things and is also pretty decent looking and sounding esthetically in spite of the limitations of the hardware. Its objectively impressive

>>3783900
Charm/Steal is Ayla, Marline makes it double charm.

>>3783292 (OP)
Why do I find the beginning so insanely boring now

>>3783292 (OP)
2x and 3x combo techs is such a great idea for party based RPGs it's downright bonkers JRPGs or RPGs in general don't lean into this more, where your party can perform different skills or passives depending on the lineup.

>>3792554
Yes. It could even affect the relationship scores some FF games had, and really just enhance the group feel.

Tales games have done it too.

>>3783292 (OP)
No, it's actually good. I played it in 2010. A genuine gem.

>>3783292 (OP)
>start replaying it as an adult
>protagonist is at a festival with a cute girl who clearly likes him
>want to kill myself because this will never happen to me, turn off game

>>3783767
Me. I remember some early ZSNES versions had a problem with transparency, so at first I was getting stuck in the future where you couldn't see what was happening in some of the domes. Once I realised you can turn off the layer with one of the number keys it was playable again.
Great game, it still holds up today. It's a pity the combat gets too easy once the game opens up. It's a waste to have a fairly interesting system and set of techs but not to have them necessary.

>>3792683
Damn, video games really fucked up a couple generations of men
Instead of playing these you should have been at a town festival playing with girls at that age

>>3786104
Chrono Trigger made it optional to bring the main character back to life, had no field to battle transition, was one of the og multiple ending games, and for personal things, the moment where Flea followed you all the way to the castle.

>>3792704
I vaguely remember that. In the SNES FFs you could see the hidden treasures in the wall by toggling layers off too

>>3792683
kek same here

>>3792683
>>3795143
I'm sorry

>>3792707
>>3795162
Everytime I see a normie post here I tell them to get out. Why are you here in this board made for incels and losers? Don't you have anything better to do

>>3783292 (OP)
I played it for the first time as an adult and it was great

>>3783292 (OP)
Playing through it for the first time ever right now and was gonna make a thread about how surprised I am at its quality, freshness, and how it feels like it hasn't really been mercilessly ripped off over the years. Even though its a snes game it has me oohing and ahhing a lot with the visuals and little things that happen. Combat is really fun (when battles are quick, boss battles can be way too slow) and the things enemies can do like the one that picks others up, the snakes that will kill the frogs for health, the volcanoes that will attack the whole field, feel really creative and charming. I've never thought about directing in a video game before but the one thought running through my head the whole time as I play this is "this feels really well directed". The magus castle in particular was fucking awesome and has me excited for whatever the fuck actual endgame is gonna be
Whenever I hear about something being the greatest of all time over and over again I come into it really biased against it but I can be won over, and when something wins me over in that situation you know that shit is good

>>3798560
>Whenever I hear about something being the greatest of all time
I always figured it was "it wowed kids back in the 90s", and that today it's lame and flawed like everything else blinded boomers recommend

But no this one is actually, actually good.

indeed

They played 'To Far Away Times' at our high school graduation because we were all nerds and good friends.

I can't listen to that song without getting misty eyed.