He's kind of an imbecile, isn't he?

>>3783322 (OP)
His plan worked.

>>3783323
No it didn't. He came back a braindamaged moron hellbent on butchering the entire universe for no reason, gained no established worship he had pre times of trouble and died like a bitch again and denied final petty pleasure by Jergal just resurrecting the one who undid his rise.

>>3783325
>nu lore

Not sure exactly when you mean. If you mean in BG3, the goal of all gods is to single-mindedly act on their domain, and spread their domain.

When murders are done, especially in Bhaal's name, it is sort of like the clink of change added to his pocket. Bhaal is also a young and uppity god in Faerun terms. Jergal is an old conservative.

>>3783322 (OP)
Whoaaaaa.
Who knew that BG3 has shit writing?

>>3783371
>>3783331
All of the dead three have been jobber chumps since forever.

He is but he's my lovable idiot.

>>3783385
>since forever.
Only since 3.X and the new retarded writers decided to bring them back time and time again.
Bane being gone was fine, Iyachtu Xvim being a demigod that tries to reach divinity and become the new god of tyranny was fine.
If you cant tell, this is literally what BG was inspired by.

Bane was brought back due to Memberberries and Disney-Tier writing.
Same for Bhaal, he was supposed to be dead for good.
Myrkul was the only who was supposed to be around because while he technically is dead he infused multiple artifacts with his Divinity.

Bane, Bhaal & Myrkul coming back is literally HEY MEMBER THE DEAD THREE

>>3783411
Since 2nd Edition, Time of Troubles was retarded to begin with.

>>3783419
I dont think it was.
It was a fitting cataclysmic event for that Setting with greek pantheon levels of divine fuckery.

>>3783322 (OP)
Yeah, Bhaal being stupid is half the point.

It's a dnd setting. Escape the noisy retards and their mortal idiots and become a lich.

>>3783952
The entire thing was designed by committee and used to justify the rule changes from 1st to 2nd edition D&D and sell a trilogy of poorly written books.

>>3783419
>>3783973
>Super Overgod says "Stay out of my garden'
>Appoiints Helm who is the only non retard
>Mystra keeps trying to get in cause she is too retarded
>Helm does his job eventually
>HOW COULD YOU DO SUCH A THING say the other retards
>This is supposed to be a tragic moment that haunts Helm and keeps grudes ongoing
The best traits of divine pantheons across legends and myths on display

>>3783978
I see the cope is strong with you.
>Super Overgod is asspulled into existence.
>Existing gods are slaughtered because their classes were removed from the ruleset.
>Poorly made NPCs were elevated to their portfolios.
Forgotten Realms and its Big Event Retcons to justify edition changes is dumb as hell, way too "on the nose".

>>3783957
What's the other half of the point?

>>3783982
>>3783973
>Super Overgod is asspulled into existence.
oh no
no no no no
Alright, no one tell him. Let him drown in his own stupidity.

>Existing gods are slaughtered because their classes were removed from the ruleset.
what are you even talking about?

>The entire thing was designed by committee and used to justify the rule changes from 1st to 2nd edition D&D and sell a trilogy of poorly written books.
You are talking out of your ass to such a degree that Im feeling secondhand embarrassment just from reading it.
After the success of Dragonlance they wanted to establish a more coherent Setting than Oearth or Faerun that until then had been mainly existing as snippets in Dragon Magazine.
FR as we know now didnt truly exist outside of short stories until 2E/AD&D.

>I see the cope is strong with you.
You are talking to two different people, so look whos coping.

>Forgotten Realms and its Big Event Retcons to justify edition changes is dumb as hell, way too "on the nose".
FR as we know it now didnt truly exist outside of short stories in Dragon Magazine until 2E/AD&D you absolute sozzle.
While later changes and events were just that the time of Troubles was not you illiterate dumbass.
Stop embarrassing yourself further by getting 2nd hand info from reddit.

>>3783978
>The best traits of divine pantheons across legends and myths on display
Thats exactly my point.

>>3784008
I see you're too young to know.
>self-own about stupidity
Ao didn't exist before the Time of Troubles.
>what are you even talking about
Assassin was removed from 1st edition=Bhaal was killed off.
Illusionist was removed from first edition=Leira was killed off.
Wild Magic was introduced=Mystara was deaded.

The whole thing was written in reverse with awareness of 2nd edition changes. The Avatar trilogy, which was indeed an attempt by TSR to cash in on the Dragonlance novels popularity and they did this with all their settings, were written by multiple people under a pseudonym.
>You are talking out of your ass to such a degree that Im feeling secondhand embarrassment
No.
>FR as we know now didnt truly exist outside of short stories until 2E/AD&D.
I had the 1st Edition Boxed set. Pool of Radiance was 1st Edition FR.
You have no idea what you're talking about coming after years of retcons and attempts to make things coherent as you are.

>>3783984
BG has a dumb narrative based on Highlander.

>>3783957
How is this a good story setting then?!

>>3784100
>shit happening in forgotten realms
It isn't

>>3784037
>I see you're too young to know.
Says the guy who thinks AD&D is the same thing as First Edition D&D

>I had the 1st Edition Boxed set. Pool of Radiance was 1st Edition FR.
Jesus Christ, please stop embarrassing yourself, im begging you.

>No.
Yes.

>I had the 1st Edition Boxed set. Pool of Radiance was 1st Edition FR.
If anything you had the first Edition AD&D Boxed set.

>You have no idea what you're talking about coming after years of retcons and attempts to make things coherent as you are.
the lack of self-awareness is staggering.

>>3784037
>Illusionist was removed from first edition=Leira was killed off
A goddess of lies tricking everyone is one of the "resurrections" I can approve.

>>3783322 (OP)
Bhaal us literally just some dumb asshole who walked in and took the power of a god because of some shit going on. He's just a normal dude that ascended to godhood, and he was also insane, so him being retarded isnt a stretch.

>>3784152
Hm.

>He's just a normal dude
He was a first class adventurer that succesfully entered and survived the Fugie Plane.

> he was also insane
He wasn't. He was the sharpest of the dead three, even sharper than the guy that was a master nectomancer (and that specialisation canonically needs a lot of WIS).

>him being retarded isnt a stretch.
Not anymore, unfortunately. I blame the BG books and Abdel becoming canon.

>>3784175
>Fugie Plane
Didn’t one of them just go to prison? What was the deal there

>>3784177
Astral projection

>>3784107
>AD&D is the same thing as First Edition D&D
Oh, did you think I was talking about original D&D or OD&D? I haven't kept up with the lingo since 3rd, so I don't know what you kids call things now. I thought it was self-evident I was referring to 1st edition AD&D, since like you said, FR wasn't a thing before it.

Anyway I explained Time of Troubles to you.

>>3784120
I've heard they walked back quite of bit of the Time of Troubles nonsense over the years.

>>3784107
>>3784188
How about you two knuckleheads cut out this pointless shitflinging and trying to snipe one another, and stick to semantic facts? Stop shitting up the board.

>>3784224
Bro, I ain't going to let some wannabe pedant say I'm a retard when he can't even pick up on basic context, so I corrected him. So don't try to hall monitor me, obnoxious twat.

>>3783322 (OP)
Not an imbecil, just an animalistic force, somewhat nonsensical, but making sense in the logical enviroment of pure primal evil, it may not even consider itself evil, but Bhaal is the murder, all the negative emotions around it is just a bonus, and because that bonus became its nature, then it makes it desirable to cause these emotions through relentless murder
I'm autistic so don't judge my word salad, it makes sense in my head

>>3784363
how can u challenge a perfect, immortal machine? -Bhaal

>>3784224
Nta, but fuck off.

>>3783323
>worked
>literally every time he tries the Bhaalspawn plan it falls apart because of a Bhaalspawn choosing to NOT be evil

>>3783952
>I dont think it was.
Only because you're fucking retarded. 3.x rules are not too horrible but the status quo changes were utter trash.

>>3783322 (OP)
FR is an incoherent mess, either ignore it or bathe in its nonsensical glory.
I think Bhaal is cool. Cool name, cool logo, cool theme (we assassins n sheet), cool games, cool superpowers (I love anything related to shapeshifting) he is just a rad guy. Great villain in general, he just wants to fuck shit up and you have to stop him and his minions.

>>3789528
>doesn't actually know anything about the lore
Great contribution.

>>3789529
FR lore is shit and makes no sense, just ignore it.

>>3789531
How would you know? Because someone told you?

This thread proves that all DnD fans are retards no matter what edition they play.

>>3789623
>t. salty GURPS-fag

>>3783322 (OP)
Today I suddenly got an INSANE urge to play Baldur's Gate. I had to force myself to think of the flaws. Bros, let me tell you, that was a close one.

>>3784188
Cool wiki/reddit-fu bro.

>>3789531
>>3789528
U r shit which is why your parents ignored you.

>>3790574
Same but with Wokefinder.

Personally, I find it weird that a God of Murder isn't the strongest in the setting, given all the murdering and killing going on constantly.

>>3791013
Death would be stronger, since not everyone who dies is murdered, but everyone who is murdered is dead. Sex would be the stronger still, since people and animals fuck more than they die.

In other words, u dumb, stop trying to think.

Seeing Sarevok in BG3 is more offensive.

>>3791013
Wars covers a lot more killing

>>3792270
At least the encounter was fun to fight, unlike Bioware slop gameplay

>>3784100
Its not.
Baldur's Gate 1 & 2 don't have good stories, they are mediocre on top of having bad gameplay and bad level design and looking dry and bland as ever.
This is why their fans are incredibly salty about the better RPG developer (Larian Studios) with Divinity Original Sin and Baldur's Gate 3.
They know stories in these choice-driven games are not going to be deep or amazing anyway, so they drop pretending to be deep or serious, embrace their goofy nature, and instead work on gameplay systems and level design to make the experience of actually playing the game more fun.
Also by polishing acting and character performance, you end up relating more to what's happening and in the end the story interactions are way more memorable as a result.

>>3792291
>first game from 1998 vs decades and millions early access game
>muh production values
I'm not a Biotard, but this is just retarded. You can't praise Larian when they are building partly on the kind of experience in RPGs that Bioware popularized over the course of years.

>>3792294
You are the retard because time of release has nothing to do with it.
Deus Ex is from the year 2000 and it mogs Baldur's Gate 2 which release in the year 2000 in nearly every single aspect.

Might and Magic 6 > Baldur's Gate 1
Deus Ex > Baldur's Gate 2

I read takes from Bioware fans (BG2 fans) about Larian games, they are all braindead and all the care about is da story.

>>3792295
Time of release isn't the point I'm make, it's the experience of the devs. I typo'd there, was supposed to be "vs decades of experience". Deus Ex was also made by very experienced devs and it's not without its flaws or poor production value.

>>3792296
Wizardry 7 > M&M6
UU>Deus Ex

You like babby easy games.

>>3792297
The funny part is that Bioware even regressed harder over the years. So instead of getting better they got worse.
Also Larian games are not inspired by Bioware game design at all, they only took the romancing and characterization aspect from Bioware and surprise surprise, its the weakest part of their game. KEKW

>>3792298
Difficulty for me isn't a big factor.
I prefer M&M game systems to Wizardry
Ultima Underworld isn't on the same level of Deus Ex, come on, both are great but Deus Ex transcends the genre to another level, its the perfect overall package.

>>3792299
BG3 reminds me of them with the shot reverse shot dialogue cutscenes and vapid companions. There's obviously some influence there, but not from BG, rather from KotOR, the game that really ruined RPGs.

>>3792301
Was KOTOR even that popular to the point it ruined RPGs?

>>3792300
>bad voice acting
>bad weapon balance, combat in general is uninteresting
>ugly as sin
>swimming
It's a very good game. Ultima Underworld was fucking revolutionary.

>>3792303
Xbox, son, Xbox.
KoTOR to Jade Empire to Mass Effect, clear lineage.

>>3792305
Deus Ex has better writing, music, level design and more fun systems to mess up with, its more replayable which is why i prefer it.
But look, i respect your opinion if you want to side with Ultima Underworld, you are correct, its revolutionary.

>>3792306
Did you like Neverwinter Nights?

>>3792291
Zoomer-Take
Posts like that are always a cope by someone who got filtered and just cannot understand that maybe his tastes lie elsewhere, no no, surely its the game that is bad.

>>3783322 (OP)
Yes, that's the whole point of the Dead Three - they're pathetic substitutes for a much grander deity:
>Have to gang-up on a completely depowered, forgotten god to defeat it.
>Jergal outright gives them divinity, they separate their portfolios via a fucking game.
>Bhaal gets the domain of "death," as in the process of dying, no matter the form, as well as "ritual" and "sacrifice."
>Because he's an imbecilic edgy boy, instead he willingly limits himself to just murder and ritualistic sacrifice (in the form of murder).

He has always been a cretin.

>>3792270
>Seeing Sarevok in BG3 is more offensive.

Why? In none of his epilogues does he die. He has two to choose from - redeemed and non-redeemed.

Only a complete idiot would think the "redeemed" would become canon, since:
>every single evil party member, from both games, meets an ignoble/bad/pathetic end; most just get killed,
>someone going from Chaotic Evil to Chaotic Good within the span of a few weeks ToB takes place in is even more retarded,

>>3792571
>>every single evil party member, from both games, meets an ignoble/bad/pathetic end; most just get killed,

This one can't be repeated enough:
>Xzar - assassinated by Harpers,
>Montaron - murdered by Harpers,
>Korgan - killed in the Underdark,
>Edwin - depowered and turned permanently into a woman,
>Tiax - murdered by Irenicus
>Safana - slain by werewolves,
>Dorn Il-Khan - killed in all of his epilogues,
>Hexxat - suicide,

Even Beamdog kept that up - every single evil party member whose fate is revealed ends up badly. The only two ones who were open-ended were Viconia (non-romanced) and Sarevok.

>>3792835
bioware's moralfagging was disgusting.

>>3792836
No, it's how most people driven solely by power, ambition or psychotic rage end up as. The only one who could potentially avoid a bad fate would be Kagain, since he is completely money-oriented.

Sarevok has proven, time and again, in both BG1, BG2 and ToB, to be driven solely by a lust for power. It makes absolute sense that, eventually, he would crawl to Daddy Bhaal in search for it, and it paid off - he's the leader of Bhaal's church within a metropolis AND has a family of his own, to boot.

>>3792838
>it's how most people driven solely by power, ambition
no, it isn't, at all. it's moralfagging.

>>3783325
I see that more as everyone else's problem

>>3792835
>posts mod characters like they matter
There are plenty of other mod characters so why not include them all?

>>3792907
None of those are mod characters.

>>3793000
The last two are.

>>3793228
No, they're from an official expansion. It's also funny that people hate on Hexxat, when she's the only black character in the series who actually is from Chult, as opposed to Valygar (ancient Amnish noble family), Mazzy (Trademeet), Sarevok (Howling Hills, slightly east of Baldur's Gate), Dynaheir (Rashemen, the Slavland of the setting) or Wyll (Baldur's Gate).

>>3793230
mazzy is a nig now?

>>3793230
>It's also funny that people hate on Hexxat
People hate on all the Beamdog OCs because they are fucking terribly written.

>>3793230
>official
lmao, yeah, that's a word. doesn't cost much to use.
>It's also funny that people hate on Hexxat, when she's the only black character in the series who actually is from Chult
probably because that has nothing to do with why people dislike the character

>>3793253
Mazzy's face is literally a younger Tina Turner.

>>3793256
>lmao, yeah, that's a word. doesn't cost much to use
Yes, especially because it's true.

>probably because that has nothing to do with why people dislike the character
Most people hating on her haven't played the game, so it's tough to take them seriously.

>>3793257
ayo we wuz mazzy and shiet *smacks lips*

>>3793257
>true
yes, officialism is available at a reasonable pricepoint.
>Most people hating on her haven't played the game
what game? baldur's gate 2? why would they care then?
fact is that most people would see a vampire attack kill a party member and then kill it.

feel free to mount more and more awkward defenses.

>>3793265
>fact is that most people would see a vampire attack kill a party member and then kill it

You mean the same as most people would kill Zhentarim agents on sight (Xzar and Montaron)? Or a priest of Cyric (Tiax)? Or a drow priestess of Shar who just murdered an entire family (Viconia)? Wow, your logic is flawless! It's almost as if a non-evil, non-crazy main character would have nothing to do with those people, including Hexxat!

>>3793268
no, not at all the same. a companion is killed in front of you and this requires no investigation into background or presuppositions. even evil people wouldn't stand for that level of disrespect.

jeez, i knew it would be an awkward defense, but that's just sad.

>>3793274
>a companion is killed in front of you

A person you met 10 minutes earlier.*

Let me correct that for you.

>>3793276
that's a companion, i accepted them into my party with all rights and responsibilities that implies.
if i'm good, i defend them. if i'm evil, i consider them mine.
i'll break it down further:
person i know for an hour>undead monster
this ain't an alignment issue.

>>3793280
Wow, so you must've killed Edwin on the spot in BG1 when he demanded you kill Dynaheir.

>>3793282
false equivalency, a demand isn't an actual murder. i told him to fuck off.

>>3793230
>an official expansion
>official
You don't know what that word means.

>>3792571
For the simple fact he's human and BG3 takes place a century after BG2.

>>3793321
All Bhaalspawn are biologically immortal. This has been canon since 2nd Edition and later confirmed by Greenwood, who also stated you can never fully get rid of the taint.

>>3793230
>t's also funny that people hate on Hexxat, when she's the only black character in the series who actually is from Chult

That doesn't make her a good character.
She is still the black lesbian edgy-sue selfinsert of a white pasty tranny.

>>3793268
>You mean the same as most people would kill Zhentarim agents on sight (Xzar and Montaron)? Or a priest of Cyric (Tiax)? Or a drow priestess of Shar who just murdered an entire family (Viconia)? Wow, your logic is flawless! It's almost as if a non-evil, non-crazy main character would have nothing to do with those people, including Hexxat!

Do you have some sort of autism or are you trolling?

>You mean the same as most people would kill Zhentarim agents on sight (Xzar and Montaron)?
How you you kill a Zhentarim-Agent on sight? How can you tell they are Zhentarim agents?

>Or a priest of Cyric (Tiax)?
Did you forget that he gets jailed and eventually killed?

>Or a drow priestess of Shar who just murdered an entire family (Viconia)?
Who makes a point to say how she lived in the middle of fucking nowhere.
Another family gets killed in the middle of nowhere how long until anyone notices it?
Especially on Swordcoast.
Apart from that did you miss that both times you meet her people try to kill her?

>Wow, your logic is flawless! It's almost as if a non-evil, non-crazy main character would have nothing to do with those people, including Hexxat!

You tried so hard to be smug and condescending but you just come off as total slobbering retard.

>>3793230
>people hate on Hexxat, when she's the only black character in the series who actually is from Chult,

Who the fuck cares about the nigra thing? Hexxat is an unlikable bitch that kills a cutie that you can't save (withough a mod), potentially soflocks you game if you are curious enough to open her bag of holding and take out a coffin that you can neither put back nor drop (coffin weights a ton) - a bug that will never be fixed by the way - the only companion who has stats in 90+ while being a useless non-kitted vanilla thieff (competing with a full caster that does the same thing she does, a literal dragonkilling chad and a multiclass with access to 2 HLA lists at once). Nevermind the laziest writing in the game (YES, WORSE THAN DORN).

>>3783322 (OP)
He can limit the amount of people the other two gods can rule over.

>>3783411
>he infused multiple artifacts with his Divinity
that and the spirit eater scaring people into believing him

>>3792835
>Safana
Chaotic neutral.

>>3783390
based

>>3794565
Imagine playing the “EE” and knowing any of this

>>3794900
Good catch. I always put her in that list just to showcase how many people arguing about the game in their /pol/tarded logic actually played the thing.

>>3795116
>I was merely pretending
If you "always" do that everyone got tired of actually reading your spam and just pushes back against the worst retardation so that you can't later claim that any dissent is "contrarians".

>>3795127
Nope, not a single person pointed it out before. It's not exactly a discovery that most people bitching about a game, especially from a /pol/tard standpoint, never actually played it.

>>3795128
>people haven't played babby's first cRPG here because they don't remember the alignment of a minor inconsequential character or did and didn't nitpick the inclusion because she is indeed a cunt
Wait, aren't you the one bringing up companions being black and shit? The /pol/tard is you, bro.

>>3795187
>Wait, aren't you the one bringing up companions being black and shit?

No. It started with someone claiming the Beamdog characters aren't canon. They are, by the very definition. Plus someone like Neera is also ingrained into other canon material, and is heavily connected to Minsc's post-Spellplague plotline.

>>3795116
>their /pol/tarded logic
you called mazzy black lmao

>>3795369
Because she is? Her face is a painted over Tina Turner.

>>3795371
except she's not, she's white both on her portrait and on her paperdoll

>>3795368
>It started with someone claiming the Beamdog characters aren't canon
And then you randomly brought up race completely unprompted, /pol/tard.

>>3795375
She's not white on her portrait.
>brown skin
>kinky hair
>wide nostrils
>wide lips

And as I said, she's literally a painted over Tina Turner, like Valygar is Vin Diesel and Viconia is that Czech porn actress.

>>3795378
but it doesn't matter which face they used for the reference you stupid nigger, her skin on her portrait is white

>>3795380
>This is white skin.

You must be American.

>>3795381
yeah and you must be a nigger

>>3795381
Wait, does that mean JenniferHale did blackface? Problematic.

>>3795382
And you must be autistic or colourblind.

>>3795383
Wasn't Valygar also voiced by a white guy?

>>3795384

>>3795387
My dear autismo, you can see the entire color palette of the portrait at the bottom, and it's the only canon picture of her.

>>3795388
yeah with the second color from the left representing her white skin

>>3795385
You tell me, I'm not the expert on BG2 portrait phrenology.

>>3795390
>Second colour on the left is white.

Yep, definitely American.

>>3795392
i accept your concession

>>3795392
Can you do an analysis on what Earth race Korgan is?

>>3795396
Sicilian

>>3795398
BG2: Throne of Halal

>>3792289
He goes down like a bitch. In BG1 he was an actual challenge.

>>3795368
>They are, by the very definition.
They aren't and never will be. A bunch of modders hired by a "rights owner" long after the actual creators have stopped making video games cannot, by the very definition, make anything official.

That "Mazzy is white" kid is hilarious. She is very clearly black to any culturally enriched individual.

>>3795371
>>3795661
She's clearly mixed, stop with your racist "one drop rule" shit.

>>3795116
>always put her in that list just to showcase how many people arguing about the game in their /pol/tarded logic actually played the thing.
>/pol/tarded
>not "/pol/fag"

hi leftypol

>>3795661
See >>3794548

its nice you came back for seconds beamdogtranny but even then you still fuck up.

Because you aint as smart as you think you are, sorry not sorry.

>>3797241
They don't play video games, anon. As do half the people arguing in these threads. I sometimes bemoan the fact the BG series have very robust wikis, because it used to be very, very easy to figure out people arguing based on "common knowledge" and repeating what they've already read.

The only classic RPGs this tactic still works on are Arcanum and Planescape: Torment.

>>3797268
>nobody plays video games but MEEEEEE
This site when downhill when this meme started. Bro, people have shit memories or are retards in general, even if they have played the game last week. Stop with the superiority complex and ignore secondaries.

>>3792835
Korgan’s end was badass though, died killing a Drow High Priestess and an army of Drow

>>3795368
>No. It started with someone claiming the Beamdog characters aren't canon. They are, by the very definition
Stopped reading here

>>3793230
>>3793230
People hate Hexxat because Clara had a much more appealing portrait, Hexxat had a shit build, only makes sense for an evil run and shit story to boot not to mention being a lesbian only romance.

The rest of the characters you mentioned had great banter, nice classes and didn’t have a shitty quest attached to them.

>>3801928
His is the very traditional "live by the sword, die by the sword" story arc.

But my point came across, I hope. Evil party members meet bad ends in Forgotten Realms games. This carried over into NWN with the likes of Bishop, who ended up at the Wall of the Faithless, or Ammon Jerro, who ended up with his soul stolen.

>>3802139
>Ammon Jerro, who ended up with his soul stolen.
Not canonically. He returns to West Harbor to celebrate PC's wedding.

>>3802179
MotB doesn't have a canon ending... though you do meet One-as-Many in Storm of Zehir...

>>3783322 (OP)
All FR gods are turbo retards because otherwise there would be no easy and obvious global high-stakes drama and conflict in the setting.

Also gods being fucking retarded is accurate to traditional polytheistic mythology.

>>3802180
>Forgotten Realms exists in the 5e
>"MotB doesn't have a canon ending"
Bitch, please...

>>3783349
Going by the old story of how the dead three got their domains from Jergal, Bhaal choose to become the god of murder because the other two picked their domains first and thought as someone who could have some control over the flow of souls he could come out on top. By BG3 it seems like he just said fuck all that and wants everything dead after all the other failed plans.
I guess he should have been a better skull bowler

>>3792835
>Dorn Il-Khan - killed in all of his epilogues,
>Hexxat - suicide,
I take that, improvement over all the other parts of the EE content.

>>3783322 (OP)
Doesn't matter, had sex

>>3783322 (OP)
He kills the people Bane rules over and limits how many people die for Myrkul to rule over; but yeah he is kind of dumb.