Why are there no RPGs that take place entirely during caveman times?

Why is OP not a smart person?

>>3783760 (OP)
Because “caveman times” is non-specific. You’re basing a setting off of hypothetical societies that are largely unknown, as opposed to ancient world, medieval, or industrial where we have extremely solid conceptions of what these societies were like and what they valued so it’s easy to make fantasy worlds that take inspiration from them. Grug tribe 1 kills grug tribe 2 with spears made of ??? and possibly encountered saber tooth tigers (maybe?) doesn’t activate the sparks of creativity very well. There’s not much of a story there.

>>3783760 (OP)
Because game developers are not creative enough to take that type of setting and make a compelling story out of it. Since that's basically a complete unknown of human history, you could do basically anything you wanted with it and nobody could stop you. You could even include dinosaurs or whatever the fuck, who cares?
Unfortunately, the vast majority of gamers are just as stupid as game developers and thus cannot conceive of doing anything interesting with the setting, so even if there WAS an interesting caveman RPG, they likely wouldn't even give it a chance.

>>3783805
Hit xis head

>>3783811
>societies that are largely unknown, as opposed to ancient world, medieval, or industrial where we have extremely solid conceptions of what these societies
Right, as games are scientific discussions and not artistic interpretations.

>>3783760 (OP)
Because it's not interesting.
Basically no language, no real society, everything is super underdeveloped and life is strictly about day to day survival, primarily through hunter-gatherer shit. Everything would be super basic.

>>3783760 (OP)
There's a metroidvania in the stone age coming this year

I mean certainly everyone who visits a board as niche as this is familiar with both the stone age section of Chrono Trigger and the Caveman chapter of Live a Live. Both show pretty easily that you could make a game about this topic.
Whether you could make the interest in it last at least 20 hours or so is another story, but I think a dev could pull it off if they had the gumption.

>>3783828
Some like that part in chrono best, I do.

>>3783828
>Both show pretty easily that you could make a game about this topic.
They actually show it's a bad idea. The caveman section in Live A Live is by far the worst section of the game.

>>3783832
>my opinion>your opinion
Well actually it was the best part of the game.

>>3783834
>Well actually it was the best part of the game.
Except it wasn't.

>zero dialogue, which while conceptually interesting means all interactions are super basic and incapable of communicating anything of substance or depth
>the most obtuse and poorly paced section by far
>the narrative and emotional weight of that section basically doesn't exist
>while initially seemingly big with room to explore and things to discover, it's actually super linear with no nuance

It's easily the worst section of the entire game. Objectively.

>>3783840
>I didn't like it
Sorry to hear that. I liked it a lot and thought it was really fun and could easily be expanded into a full game.

>>3783843
You liked it for emotional biased reasons, not rational qualitative reasons. That's fine, but learn to separate the two.

>>3783845
>lack of substantial, detailed conversations is "objectively bad"
>"it's obtuse/poorly paced!" but it can be completed in a couple hours by anyone playing it for the first time
>the emotional weight doesn't exist because i say it doesn't (except there were plenty of funny moments, cute moments between pogo and the girl, the invention of "AIIIIIIIIIIIIIII" was great, and the final battle with everyone teaming up to fight the giant dinosaur was hype)
>not big enough, not enough to do, too linear (because it's a single section of an anthology, thus easily expanded upon like I said)
There, I picked your post apart with greentext so that you can understand better.
Also it's funny that you'd claim your "opinions" are "objective" when they're entirely based around "I have preconceived notions of how an RPG 'should' be, thus when I don't get exactly what I want, it's objectively bad." Maybe you need to experience ego death once or twice.

>>3783848
You're literally handwaving points away with fallacies in a desperate attempt to justify your emotional bias.

For example
>lack of substantial, detailed conversations is "objectively bad"
It is because it severely limits the kind of narrative that can happen, character interaction, character growth, character depth, literally everything suffers massively.
You can directly contrast that with Far Future to see how much more involved the narrative got, how much more fleshed out the characters got, etc.

>>"it's obtuse/poorly paced!" but it can be completed in a couple hours by anyone playing it for the first time
You have no understanding for what pacing is. Pacing is not length. A 1 hour movie could be poorly paced but a 3 hours one well paced. It spends too much time on things that are too basic with no substance on the level of something for a 3 year old.
You also don't understand what obtuse is. Several moments boil down to wandering around aimlessly trying different things until the game progresses, which makes it so the player has no real agency and neither does it feel like Pogo does either.

>>the emotional weight doesn't exist because i say it doesn't
Farting on someone so you giggle isn't "emotional weight". Like is there anything you understand? The emotional weight of the China, Far Future or even Near Future chapters is incomparable to Prehistory, because the latter has zero emotional weight.

But I am clearly wasting my time here on a close-minded idiot that only wants to shitpost. So I'll spare myself the effort to try and reason with you. You're only attentionwhoring.

Caveman rpgs can definitely work. It's just that when you think about it, it makes sense why a lot of the big rpg companies don't tackle a prehistory setting.
>Can't have nations at war, lacking the political intrigue inb4 tribes at war
>Unless you throw in ayyleon technology, or dude, it was post world war 3 this whole time, you're very limited in weapon variety unless you throw in magic
>Harder to get the male gooner audience because you're limited to like 4 female archetypes
>"Limited" to telling either very human, gritty, or abstract stories
Honestly, OP, I think the best of both worlds would be settings taking inspiration from the ancient era of human civilization. You can still have plenty of tribal stuff alongside a world that's a bit more grounded.

>>3783848
>>3783856
You are the reason /vrpg/ is dead.

>>3783760 (OP)
Not true. **FF1** took place entirely in the stone age.

>>3783856
>You're attentionwhoring
No, I think you're just a troll. I'm calling you that because it's nicer than calling you what I think you are (an absolute fucking retard).

>>3783760 (OP)
I don't know.

I preferred the kingdom of zeal and black omen. Cavepeople time was fun too though.

>>3783760 (OP)
Live A Live.
and some french caveman sim game where you have you craft your own weapons by hitting a rock alone the drawn lines.

>>3783874
>You are the reason /vrpg/ is dead.
This board (and site) is shit because people have no desire to actually discuss things because they are far too close-minded to challenge their ideas, so they instead shitpost ad infinitum.

>>3783905
?

>>3783811
I think there are reasons that a stone age/pre history game would be difficult, but I really, really don't think "we don't really know what the time was like" is one of them. In terms of historical gaps, most fantasy is most definitely not above altering whatever historical facts they want/need for their stories. I'm not sure why we can accept fantasy set in known eras not being historically accurate, but introducing inaccuracies about something we don't know about shouldn't be done.

One of the best adult animation series in recent years was Genndy Tartakovsky's primal, which was about the adventures of a neanderthal (I think? I don't think that's actually stated but it seems implied) and his dinosaur companion. A good chunk of sword and sorcery genre trappings fit perfectly into the era without further modification.

One of the problems is equipment progression, you're going to be using clubs and skins the whole game.

>>3784065
Very unimaginative subject

As said at >>3783821 it just becomes so extremely basic you can only do something simplistic.

>>3784087
Complete bs

>>3784065
>One of the problems is equipment progression, you're going to be using clubs and skins the whole game.
Not necessarily, there's enough primitive weapons to cover your bases.

Melee: Unarmed, Club, Spear, Axe, Sword (Macuahuitl since we're foregoing smithing) and of course the humble shield.
Ranged: Rock, Sling, Spear, Bow, Atlatl,
Your progression of materials is going to be pretty standard: Wood->Stone->Bone->Obsidian
You could also augment your weapons with poisoned fungus/plants/toads for additional effects.

And that's before we go nonsenical and start tossing beehives and using jars of piss to summon wild animals!

>>3784098
Ok then, explain
>what would the story be about and the narrative hook
>what would at least 6 of the companions stories and personal arcs be about
>what would gear progression be like and what kind of gear would there be
>what would the different classes and skill progression be like
>how would you make engaging conversations
>how would you make engaging side quests
>how would you make the world interesting to explore while factoring in extremely limited architecture
>how would you work around the problem of no writing or writing material in the world (no notes to find or anything)
>etc

Keep in mind we're talking about making a good and not extremely basic RPG here.

>>3784111
>just make a whole game to prove me wrong
You overextended your bait

>>3784111
>hooks
Dino, lmao, time travel or tribes representing modern groups; plenty of tropes for each
>companions
Again, plenty : hunter, gatherers, first time entertainer, star reader, shaman, tribe eldest, conspirator, traveler
>progression
Easy, bad, medium, good stone (can be naked), better weapons unlock later (spears or whatever)
>classes
Could be tied to personality, hunter, vanguard, tribe medicine guy aso
>converaations
Literally anything, from simple mangled words to current day language
>side quests
Literally anything
>world
Focus on nature and huts
>no writing
With a little tinkering, few words and grunts go very long

>>3784115
>grunts
I mean, yakuza series has most scenes with grunts like aha and eehh

>>3784115
>Dino
Not a story hook and you would then want even less developed humanity.

>time travel
Oh, so not prehistoric.

>tribes representing modern groups
Not how that works, idiot.

I don't even need to read the rest to know it's drivel when this is your opener.

>>3784119
You do realize a video game isn't exactly a recollection of how it went down? Stone age in chrono was decent enough, as it was in livealive. It's a setting good as any other. Primal, ark work just fine with these settings. Even horror would work well in auch a setting.

>>3784123
The entire point of making a prehistoric setting would be to make it prehistoric, not throw in tons of stuff which detract from that. Otherwise you'd just be doing the exact same thing as games that have used time travel or something similar as a gimmick before like Chrono Trigger, Live A Live, Secret of Evermore or whatever. In other words, not a "caveman rpg".

Sounds like your problem with the setting is a bunch of preconceived assumptions for what can or can't be in it based on shaky pop science.

>>3784111
>Keep in mind we're talking about making a good and not extremely basic RPG here.
What you're asking for is for something that has not been seen in over a decade.

>>3784127
Your problem isnt that you don't even know what you want beyond just a headline.

>>3784129
>isnt that you don't even
That's a double negative you cavechud.

>>3784129
Your problem is you think there is only one person in this thread besides yourself

>>3784129
See>>3784133
He's trying to help you for free

>>3783873
omfg I want her to crush my head between those thighs like a watermelon.

Far Cry Primal.

>>3784199
I too wish you were dead.

>>3784201
Uh oh boys be careful we got an edgelord on our hands here.

>>3784257
What's edgy about joining another anon in wishing for his heartfelt desire to become reality? The man wants to die, I support him.

>>3783820
You can't interpret something you have no information about. It's like interpreting a book you've never read

>>3784065
Lost world genre fiction has existed just fine for ages

>>3784267
Fuckers here interpret games they never played all the time

>>3784267
Imagination is used to fill the gaps, Clan of the Cave Bear was a popular novel even though it's full of shit that isn't in any way real.

>>3784629
>Clan of the Cave Bear was a popular novel
It was shit, probably because it was aimed at hormonal teenagers and cat ladies but that's not my point, my point is that it should never be used as a source of inspiration.

>>3784059
Cavemen and Dinosaurs co-existing would already be an inaccuracy, granted it is a popular one.

>>3784941
>ERMMM THIS VIDEO GAME IS UNREALISTIC
would you fucking listen to yourself

>>3783760 (OP)

>>3784999
That shit was cancelled. Wasted trips.

>>3784666
Doesn't matter if it was shit, it sold, even got a movie. So, you're just fundamentally wrong.

>>3785580
>Doesn't matter if it was shit, it sold, even got a movie.
I'm not debating that it sold, I'm saying it was shit, that's two different things. Unless you're equating quality with sales. In which case you also have to advocate for Twilight and its fanfiction spin-off 50 Shades being not-shit, the irony being the all have the same target audience.

>>3785655
It being shit wasn't because of the prehistoric setting, unless you're saying any vampire story is automatically garbage like Twilight.

>>3783811
Caveman times is an awesome setting, especially if you have dinos and don't care about realism.

>>3784111
>extremely limited architecture
Literally just go full Flintstones with stone buildings or have some sort of advanced civilization's buildings (ruins or in-use) if you need something fancy. Can have something magical and mystical (and so irresistible) mixed in still too. Even Flintstones had the Great Gazoo.

Could also have weird dream world stuff.

>>3785758
flintsones isn't even prehistoric, it's just the dystopia happening on the largely abandoned surface of the jetsons' earth

pick your job class:
>hunter
>gatherer

>>3785772
That's a fun theory, but there's a few times on the Jetsons where they do show the surface and it's nice. No indication it's actually a prehistoric looking wasteland. Plus in the crossover movie they use a time machine to visit the Flintstones.

>>3785775
>shaman
>artisan
>chieftain

>>3785775
>man
>woman
>>3785784
>tranny
>femme faggot
>butch faggot

>>3785776
Flintstones are just poor jetsones inhabitants. The dinosaurs are, you guessed it, blacks.

>>3785801
>fred has a black dude jump up and slobber on him whenever he gets home from work
what did joe barbera mean by this?

>>3785799
Your brain is rotted to the core when given a setting like prehistory and all you can think of is modern culture war cancer

>>3785810
>joe barbera
Self explanatory at this point... Or do you prefer the "Dino" humping Fred's wife as its custom nowadays?

>>3785816
Kino setting, 100x better than the true DD

>>3785801
Nonsense, the dinosaurs are actually useful.

>>3785834
Touché

>>3785816
uh-oh, is that a nipple?

>>3785823
One of the first things I jerked off to on the internet was a picture of Wilma getting railed by Dino, was on some FTP site called Cernobog's Lair or something, I don't even know how I got there through WebCrawler.

>>3785906
What can I say, except for thanks for sharing?
As noted for future generations: we are onto something here.

>>3783821
Too many niggers and women. Also, is that a fucking orc?

>>3785906
There is some nostalgia. Remember when it was really hard to find stuff on the Internet. You had to be find the exact string of words to get the optimal results , and often had to try different search engines because they all worked slightly differently.

But you could also find anything, because Google wasn't hiding it from you.

Feels like the stone age now.

>>3784991
Pointed out it is a popular inaccuracy to use.

>>3787524
The days of opening Excite, Yahoo, Altavista, WebCrawler and whatever else I'm forgetting and searching through all of them for that elusive "thing" you were curious about.

An open world rpg where you're hunting mammoths and sabre tooth tigers would be sweet. The story could be about a foreign tribe displaced by a flood. The isolationists in your tribe want to fight them, but the progressives welcome them in and they share their knowledge about agriculture, fire, etc.

>>3787745
Immediately trying to find a way to add 'muh refugee' "moral" dilemma to a fucking caveman RPG. What a cuck.

Why are people so stuck up on "muh realism"? It's not like we have that many realistic medieval RPGs, it's always some vague medieval fantasy. You can do this with medieval times as well. Forget the dinosaurs, you can have any kinds of fantastic creatures, and instead of having mythril armor and adamantine swords, you will have dragon skins and magic crystal spears.

>>3787874
I don't think it's about realism, it's about the whole idea is to have a coherent "historical" setting rather than a normal fantasy one with caveman flavor. I think a better way to blend in irreality is to make the beliefs of the paleolithic people impactful mechanically, like have spirits and shamans actually affect things. Really, the setting doesn't fit a normal RPG setup too well and is more geared towards a survival game, because living and interacting with environment should be the danger, not monsters or factions or politics or whatnot.

>>3783811
How come there can be several movies about caveman times but no games? Are movie producers just smarter than game producers? Are movies just superior in potential to games?
Quite sad that you ask a gamer to do something that movies have already done and they give you a blank stare and bad excuses for why it can't be done. Quite sad indeed.

I guess this is why gamers are seen as stupid and videogames an inferior artform.

>>3788376
>Are movie producers just smarter than game producers?
Come on, man. How is this a question?

>>3783760 (OP)
Sadly, because consumers are plebs, so most fantasy just apes late medieval and early modern periods, the start of early modern, anyway. Or some form of kitchen sink.
No bronze age, no stone age, no iron age...

>>3788696
"Consumers" don't make games.
Most "producers" are plebs.
Play UnReal World.

>>3783760 (OP)

>>3788746
>Play UnReal World
Utterly absorbing until I survived my first winter, then I asked myself 'what now?', failed to find a satisfactory answer, and have never been able to play it since. Very similar to my experience with Kenshi.

>>3788896
I go until I can slaughter a Njerpez camp, then wait a few years and play with the new updates or mods.

>>3784065
club of shitty wood < club of oak < club of fire-hardened ash
poorly-balanced club < properly-balanced club < superbly-balanced club
club with no grip < club with basic grip < club with grippy leather grip
club with no rock < club with rock head < club with sharpened obsidian head

armor of fur, armor of buffalo hide, armor of rhino hide, armor of dragon hide, etc

and so on and so on

>>3784111
are you serious? why do you think this would be difficult?
at first glance I almost thought you were being sarcastic

>>3788376
>How come there can be several movies about caveman times but no games?

Because they are short and non-intertactive focusing on a singular gimmick.
Some of them completely disregard realism and go full retard as well.

>>3789628
Considering in an almost 100 reply thread no one could actually answer him, it seems pretty difficult.

>>3789644
>just write up a entire game design document and story synopsis to please some rando on the internet.

No. Go ask chatgpt, homo.

speaking of realism, any mentions of cavemen (and cavewomen) looking like modern human instead of cavemen?

>>3789777
No one itt has been able to back up the idea that a fully prehistoric rpg would be good.

>>3789840
can you back up the idea that any particular hypothetical non-prehistoric rpg would be good?

>>3789848
This is a retarded deflection, because 99.9999% of all RPGs are not prehistoric and for your shitty argument and goalpost moving to hold any water they would all have to be shit.

What you're trying peddle is that a prehistoric RPG would be great for absolutely no reason and you can't justify it either, yet get upset by people telling you otherwise.
Grow up.

>>3789854
Well, to take your retardism and flow with it.

A fully prehistoric rpg would be good because it caters to a niche market. Once a product has established and secured its position within a niche market it has a higher rate of customer retention relative to a comparable product in an equivalent mainstream market.

>>3789877
I think so, too. Ark for one fares well and horizon is somewhat prehistoric.

>>3789877
>would be good because it caters to a niche market
So would serving up logs of shit in a bun and selling them for 5 bucks.
You haven't made a single good point why a prehistoric setting would be great and interesting for an RPG.

>>3790177
>horizon is somewhat prehistoric.
Horizon is a post post apocalyptic game that basically abandoned anything remotely interesting with the tribal and robots as creatures stuff, with a shitty boring protag that rolls their eyes at anyone even remotely leaning into tribal stuff.

>>3790182
Maybe, but it has spears and dinosaurs, albeit tech ones.

>>3790199
And dinosaurs are before humanity was even a thing.

You'd be better off just inventing a new setting that combines low tech, prehistoric/early civilization vibes and dinosaurs at that point. Not prehistoric.

>>3790182
I see you moving that goalpost but I think the real problem here is you're being close minded. People can give all the reasons why they (subjectively) believe it would be a good idea, but you're going to refuse to embrace the possibility because of your per-conceived notions. All puns aside, this is the 21st century, as a species, we're meant to be more open-minded about these sorts of things.

The faggot is too autistic to understand that a setting for an RPG is automatically going to be a fantasy version of it and not a historical scientific treatise.

Probably one of those autismos who constantly has to point out in movies how a scene would NEVER happen like that in real life, because ackshully...

>>3783832
I can agree with this.

>>3783834
>>3783843
>>3783932
These type of statements are what made /vrpg/ dead.

an RPG where you start in caveman times and gradually progress towards bronze/iron age by hunting down beasts and exploring the land would be pretty kino. your party's heroics get painted on cave walls, stories are passed down from generation to generation, and by the end of the game your exploits become a base for a religious text or something

>>3790209
>moving that goalpost
Dear retard, you're the one moving goalposts. It was always about people saying why a prehistoric rpg would be so good and not be riddled with inherent issues.

Even at this moment you keep moving goalposts and deflect away from the point while shifting the blame entirely on me for asking you fucking "why".
It's ironic you then accuse others of being close-minded, when you're the most juvenile and close-minded person here, utterly paralyzed of discussing or presenting his ideas. Jesus christ, grow up and never interact with other people if this is how you behave.

>>3790213
>The faggot is too autistic to understand that a setting for an RPG is automatically going to be a fantasy version of it and not a historical scientific treatise.
In other words, not prehistoric aiming for a more realistic version of it. In other words, not prehistoric. You just want a bog standard RPG with dinosaurs and women in leopard bikinis because you like triceratops when you were a slightly younger manchild.

In other words >>3790207 but you have severe problems verbalizing your thoughts.

>>3790230
Get treatment.

>>3790207
Picrel is awesome, hate all you want. I'm not against mixing genre, on the contrary. Even prehistoric settings could be awesome if tech is involved. Not that I ever witnessed such a thing, but in theory it could be cool. Dino and prehistoric settings go hand in hand, despite being unrealistic. You don't like dinos, I assume?

>>3790230
>In other words, not prehistoric
Sure. Just like people call standard fantasy settings "medieval" all the time despite them not actually being much of anything like actual medieval times.
>You just want a bog standard RPG with dinosaurs and women in leopard bikinis because you like triceratops when you were a slightly younger manchild.
Yes.png

There are already prehistoric segments of RPGs that were cool. Secret of Evermore, Chrono Trigger, Live-A-Live, etc. Would be nice to see a full game of that.

>>3790251
>Even prehistoric settings could be awesome if tech is involved. Not that I ever witnessed such a thing, but in theory it could be cool.
You're right, it's very cool.

>>3790259

>>3790230
Your 'tism is off the charts. You're forgetting, not everyone here who disagrees with you is the same person.

For context could you name me one rpg that would satisfy your criteria for realism. Humor me.

>>3789854
it's not a deflection. it's a reflection.
the point is that the setting isn't very relevant to what makes a good rpg or not. saying a prehistoric rpg would be good is just as vapid as saying one would be bad.
good games are good, bad games are bad. lots of factors.

Conan is prehistoric

>>3790342
No.
>Between the time when the oceans drank Atlantis and the rise of the sons of Aryus.

>>3790372
It's lost history I guess more than prehistory

>>3790342
we already have a name for conan's genre, sword and sorcery. more sword and sorcery rpgs would be good though, instead of tolkienshit.

>>3790372
Atlantis is prehistory, it was before historical records, as was conans time period

Prehistorical does not mean fur loincloth cavemen

>>3783760 (OP)
I'm sort of making one but it steps into bronze age territory quite a lot.

>>3790409
if we know of it, then its not prehistory anymore
and THEY had history

dont be obtuse, oh but this is 4chan, now you're going to be even more obtuse

>>3790935
uh, atlantis is fictional allegory.

she's cute

>>3790938
You don't understand what an allegory is.

>>3791011
i do.

>>3791043

>>3791052
it's sure be nice to interact with fully formed thoughts. oh well.

>>3791109
>it's sure be nice to
Or fully formed sentances for that matter.

>>3783760 (OP)
Just make it.
Simple story. Perhaps romeo and juliet-like.
No spoken words, only grunts.
With any luck, you may make a million dollars.

>>3791175
>sentances
sorry, the speed my genius mind moves at surpasses these weak and mortal fingers.

>>3791109
>>3791175
>>3791230
traps traping traps

>>3784267
People do that with the Bible all the time.

>>3784941
Yeah I know, that's my point. There are tons inaccuracies in medieval fantas too. It's weird to have those be fine when they're based on eras we have actual written records of, but going
>let's make things up about caveman times
is out of the question. If dinosaurs existing in that era (it doesn't even have to be literally that era. In the same way most of fantasy isn't ACTUALLY set in real world Europe so can take whatever liberties it wants a caveman game doesn't ACTUALLY have to be set in our world) is already too much of a leap for someone then they should probably steer clear of much the genre.

I didn't bring Primal up because it's realistic. I brought it up because it's an entertaining piece of media set in the era. The show also actual, literal magic and monsters, but I'm aware those didn't exist either.

>>3787038
>Can't have black people in the cave man times because... you just can't
Always something to bitch and moan about with you culture war people.

>>3791226
>No spoken words, only grunts.
they had language

Cave fantasy is fairly easy to put together, but I have a hard time thinking of a main plot without sci fi or supernatural elements. Maybe an open world game in a river delta, and the plot is to unite various groups and isolationists to fight off invaders?

>>3793675
>fight off invaders
Literally who(m)?

>>3793767
A ravening horde from beyond the horizon with great numbers. Maybe they're the first human sacrifice cult, maybe they invented alcohol first, maybe they just know how to flood the area because they control the river's source. Like I said, I'm having a hard time thinking on it.

>>3784124
thread prompt was "caveman times" not "literal prehistory"

>>3783816
>game developers are not creative enough to take an uncompelling setting and make it compelling
or maybe they just don't like ice skating uphill?

Cavemen had no concept of monogamy. Don't think that would sit well with a lot of you guys. Roll for initiative to claim your place in the orgy isn't very romantic.

>>3794051
patriarchal societies are monogomous, because guys dont want to share their wives
they're stronger societies because they maintain the participation of more men

matriarchal societies are polygamous, where nobody knows who their dad is
these create evolutionary pressure for larger/longer penises, but of course you're sharing the woman with everybody else, which is gay
I think these ones tend to have your alpha/beta dichotomy because women only want chad

>>3794028
natural disaster/drought/plague forces a big tribe or tribes to move into your area for food
this shit is easy; dunno how anybody thinks it would be hard to make a prehistory game

>>3794057
>tribes as societies
Interesting fantasies.

>>3794058
ah, so you're just retarded
now get butthurt and @ me some more

>>3794059
You lack understanding of family because you grew up alienated.
>@
lmao

>>3794051
>Cavemen had
headcanon
You have no clue what "cavemen" had, did or believed and neither does anyone else.
It's prehistory because there are no records.

>>3794028
OK, can work out. Decent ideas.
>>3794057
>1 guy 1 sex
>1 women = 1 slut = > many sex, all can cum
Is this a rule?

>>3794071
>neither does anyone else
I accept your concession.

>>3783821
>Basically no language, no real society,
Holy ignorance.
>everything is super underdeveloped and life is strictly about day to day survival, primarily through hunter-gatherer shit. Everything would be super basic.
Basic like your shallow as fuck take?
You're ignorant, but your general opinion is correct because that same ignorance is so widespread.
>>3785816
The string "tranny" needs to be autoban along with "chud, cuck, incel, troon" and all that parrot word shit.
>>3790230
>You just want a bog standard RPG with dinosaurs and women in leopard bikinis
Imagine being so much of a fag that you think this is a bad thing.
>>3793767
People with items, crafts, and materials advanced and alien to your own land on your shores.

>>3795155
>The string "tranny" needs to be autoban along with "chud, cuck, incel, troon" and all that parrot word shit.
You will never be a woman. If you don't get your shit together you will join the 41%. We are not persecuting you, we are warning you.

>>3795172
>we

>>3784267
>It's like interpreting a book you've never read
clearly, you've never you've never been to /lit/ if you think that's a crazy prospect.

>>3794071
ancient man 100% practiced polygyny, retarded illiterate faggot.

>>3794051
Cavemen would likely kill male rivals if they tried to fuck their mates. You're a feminized gynocentric faggot though.

>>3797468
source: my jewish ass

>>3797469
Those rivals are literally the bros you grew up with and hunt with every day, man with no friends. It's not like a small town, this is close quarter living.

>>3797469
>>3797479
we literally evolved "hidden" menstrual cycles and permanent tits in order to disguise who any given whore's baby daddy was, to foster communal childrearing. you know, the whole "it takes a village to raise a child" thing?

>>3797497
>any given whore's
Stop crying dude, it's your mother. It isn't evil, it's Garden of Eden shit. We didn't even understand the relation between fucking and children at first. The shape of the cock tells the story already.

>>3797834
so many of them are evil, though
they willingly and knowingly cuck men and dont see any problem with it
they aren't all like that but its common enough for every man to worry about it

>>3797497
>in order to
That's all wild speculation prone to coloring from the speculator's own proclivities and biases. There is zero scientific method to such stories, it's no better than a Barnum & Bailey freakshow mermaid skeleton.

>>3797889
>>3797497
>>3797468
This man really trauma-dumping in a thread about caveman fantasy RPGs
Funniest part is he doesn't even have real trauma since he has never talked to a real woman long enough for one to do anything bad to him, it's all from stories he read about on the internet and worked himself up into a shoot over

>>3797895
why can't people just discuss in good faith?
ffs, chill out and just talk to people

>>3797896
You're way the fuck off topic to cry about women being evil, don't talk about discussing anything in good faith here fag.

>>3797897
alright then, faggot
be a menopausal cunt

>>3783821
so have aliens invade

>>3797889
We're talking about times before Good and Evil. Your excessive consciousness of interpersonal processes and time and history and the future are diseases that cavemen didn't suffer from. They had bigger worries, like not dying.

>>3797943
prehumans, maybe
we've been like we are now for hundreds of thousands of years

>>3797948
How we are now is based on ever increasing awareness of function and historical fact. Civilization and writing were game changers, it works counter to evolution. Most modern people are really built to be able to understand this stuff, you have to really use your imagination to remove a lot of presuppositions.

>>3797951
>really built
*not built

All of you are so fucking retarded it boggles the mind. First thing you think when you hear "caveman rpg" is going to some fucking book you read as a kid or a documentary you watched where dirty nasty people in loincloths just huddle around campfires and pick berries all day, or worse, just splitting hairs over semantics.
And the OP was fucking chrono trigger, which obviously evokes such a rich and colorful ancient setting, with scary monsters, dinosaurs, bikini babes, societies of ancient wizards - there was a fucking castle of dinosaur people in that game

>>3798644
Well, it's true. Question is, what do? Vrpg be do like that.

>>3783760 (OP)
Savage empire