Thread 3793252 - /vrpg/ [Archived: 126 hours ago]

Anonymous
6/29/2025, 5:28:07 PM No.3793252
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This is one hell of a remake! Hopefully it sells well so they do king abaddon as well.
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 5:40:45 PM No.3793262
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>>3793252 (OP)
I hope so too, but they killed it. They killed the meme.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 7:54:31 PM No.3793329
Does the remaster suffer from any soul loss compared to the original?
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 8:27:58 PM No.3793337
>>3793329
Cons:
The pre rendered backgrounds of the original are moodier than the remake. But they put effort into the 3D backgrounds as well and they look pretty good. Just maybe a bit to bright.
They censored out the raising sun navel flag. Now it's just the regular Japan flags in ginza cho
pros:
Overhauled combat system. The original was terrible. You could only have one demon out at a time and all raidou had was a basic 3 hit combo and a stinger. In the remake it adapts some of raidou 2s combat improvements while further enhancing them. So you get the sword fusion and multiple weapon types from 2 in 1. As well as having a light attack which drains more mag and a heavy that does more hp damage for making combos on. You can also jump and attack that way. And there's a dodge button as well for rolls and manuavering around enemies. You get sword skills for elemental damage. A chargeable special aoe attack. And finishing moves that restore mag. None of which was in the original combat system. You can also have two demons out at once. Bullets don't cost money and make you constantly have to buy more if you use them. Bullets are for staggering now kinda.
Overhauls the encounter system. It gets rid of encounters in town which does so much to relieve the tedium that set in after awhile in the original. You can actually enjoy investigating. Instead there are special encounter points strewn across the various maps you can do for bonus items as part of a quest line to do them all or just for the bonus yen and xp they give. They're actually the best way to level up. They reset every moon cycle. Also encounters in the dark world have the enemies on the map so you can choose if you want to engage. They got rid of random encounters.
Overhauled fusion system. You can select the skills now and theirs more slots for skills
Qol additions like express train for cutting down on the back tracking.
Additional side quests in the way of case files that wasn't in the original.
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 8:42:17 PM No.3793340
>>3793252 (OP)
I want it physical but I live in a third world hellhole.
I remember VV had an small discount a few months in.
Will wait when it gets one to buy it digital if I cant find physical by then.
I played plenty of the first game so I can wait a little to try the remaster.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 8:50:05 PM No.3793345
>>3793252 (OP)
>childish anime graphics
>long list of DLC
this a hard pass for most people, especially right after E33
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 8:50:36 PM No.3793346
>>3793337
Is it censorship? Or are they doing alternate history? This is technically supposed to be the same universe as the Devil Summoner games and have some wiggle room with branching timelines as well.
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 8:51:58 PM No.3793347
>>3793346
and Soul Hackers in the far future
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 9:04:01 PM No.3793354
>>3793346
It was already an alternate history. Raidou takes place in Taisho 20, but the real Taisho era ended in Taisho 14. There's still militarism, but it's way less than in actual reality, thanks in part to Raidou's efforts. But the rising sun naval flag was adopted in the Meiji era, so historically it should be there.

Admittedly, the alternate history stuff's hard to pick up on for non-Japanese, but it is there
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 9:11:36 PM No.3793357
>>3793252 (OP)
>No Cleopatra, one of the few great doimons.
>But add pretty boy Cum whatever.
Like they forgot Raidou isnt gay like Vkun.
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 10:56:06 PM No.3793403
>>3793357
You would have been better off not posting.
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 11:04:16 PM No.3793405
I fucking lover the SMT universe and how they're getting so much damned love now. Digital Devil Saga BETTER FUCKING GET REMADE! It's so good.

This game looks sick, gonna get it when I have a Switch 2, since I want a physical copy.
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 5:50:02 AM No.3794250
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>>3793403
I can post whatever I want bitch.
They want Raidou to sell?
Give me my demonfu, not the retarded fujo bait that was meant for VV gay fanbase.

>>3793405
Just hope they dont make a tranny voice Argilla.
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 7:38:08 AM No.3794308
Famitsu phys sales numbers confirmed it sold less than Soul Hackers 2 in its first week and that game didn't even have a Switch release
Given the effort injected to add more demons and refine the combat system, this is doomed to become the hugest flop in Atlus' history by a wide margin, especially after SMT V and Nocturne HD put the franchise back on the radar again
They'll remaster the second game anyway (there are nods to it in this remaster) but this one failing is going to be poor advertising
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 7:42:01 AM No.3794309
>>3794308
Soul hackers 2 was a budget game and a remaster is still cheaper than that.
Atlus games, despite being perceived as popular, don't actually sell incredibly well (which that leaked SEGA doc showed).
People are also buying physical games less and digital more with time.

But Raidou doesn't have mass market appeal.
Anonymous
7/4/2025, 8:55:15 AM No.3796143
>>3794250
>retarded fujo bait that was meant for VV gay fanbase.
This is a shitpost now but you'll be regretting it when they physically put Koshimizu in the game and not just put his name on a poster.
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 5:48:40 AM No.3797464
>>3793337
Am I the only one who don't like that they got rid of having battle everywhere?
I don't mean random battle specifically, The encounter can still be visible and avoided. Just fighting demons in normal world everywhere.
I'm in chapter 3 so far and parts where you have to wander around the city is mind numbingly boring compared to the OG where at least combat kept me from falling asleep.
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 6:17:58 AM No.3797480
Is the story good? I play games like this for the story.
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 9:33:05 AM No.3797539
>>3797480
It's constructed like a season (12-13 episodes) of an anime
each episode/chapter is focused in one main conflict/problem while a bigger plot slowly unravel in the background and become the focus at the end
The story isn't exactly amazing but it's pretty enjoyable for a JRPG especially with that unique format and setting. The main story is also relatively short, at least compared to other JRPGs.
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 10:55:06 AM No.3797567
>>3797464
not enough grindan for you?
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 3:50:29 PM No.3797713
>>3797480
Not sure if good.
But its very wacky and honestly your enjoyment is enhanced if you played SMT 1 and 2 since surprisingly they are relevant to the game.
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 9:29:35 PM No.3797856
>>3794250
Cleopatra's axe wound is mine.
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 1:23:53 AM No.3797995
>>3797464
If you press the left trigger in you sprint. None of the maps are particularly big. Also take advantage of the express streetcar sometimes.

You probably are the only one that misses encounters everywhere. That shit was horrible in the original.
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 1:25:04 AM No.3797997
>>3797995
>left stick in you sprint
Not the trigger but the analog stick
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 1:47:40 AM No.3798005
>>3797995
I know. And of course I know how to sprint. and yes I also know how to use the shortcut. The game taught me.
>You probably are the only one that misses encounters everywhere.
Okay, I guessed as much.
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Anonymous
7/8/2025, 2:06:59 AM No.3798821
>>3798005
It kinda ruined the original game for me. It's impossible to soak up the atmosphere of being a detective in 1930s Japan when every 5 steps theirs an encounter. It doesn't help that the combat is so bland in the original game.

I do have some criticisms of the remaster that only became apparent after playing for a bit. Initially it seems like they made the combat alot better. But they should have play tested it some more because your demons just gobble up mag. So in practice you basically just spam weak attack all the time to keep your demons mag topped off. Raidou in the original was the carry but in the remaster he very much feels like he's just supporting his demons. Maybe that's more fitting for a devil summoner but the weak attack spam the combat system breaks down into kinda sucks.

Also the change to the guns where initially exciting to me but I almost feel like the gun was more impactful in the original. Even if buying ammo was annoying. In the remaster it's useful for slowing down or stunning fast zippy enemies and taking down gun barrier walls and that's about it.

Also wanna criticize the game as a whole, both original and remaster. The first half is really good and makes you feel like a detective. After chapter 5, the second half of the game, the detective mystique very much gets thrown to the wayside and the game is mostly just recycled content. Theirs very little new areas chapter 6, 7, 9 etc are pure backtracking. The plot tries to do some interesting things with the multiple timelines and curses etc but the content in the game is super front loaded. Kinda disappointing.

As much as I like raidou, I can understand why so many people grumble about wishing DDS got a remaster instead. It's the better game series.
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Anonymous
7/8/2025, 2:19:49 AM No.3798832
>>3798821
>But they should have play tested it some more because your demons just gobble up mag.
You know you can turn off their abilities right?
Physical demons can just turn it off and do normal attacks while only your magic one has its skills active
In my experience it's very effective to reduce MAG usage
Raidou's magic attack can also help exploit weakness (you can change it in the middle of battle) and he also has MAG recharge skill that's super useful
>Guns
Guns in remaster just outright sucks
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Anonymous
7/8/2025, 4:08:36 AM No.3798881
>>3798832
Turning abilities off in this is stupid and a direct downgrade compared to 2.
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Anonymous
7/8/2025, 4:22:08 AM No.3798884
>>3798881
Fair enough if you don't like it, but saying "they should have play tested it some more" is even more stupid cause they clearly did play tested it, the flow of the combat is just different. If you can manage the abilities well you can mix heavy and light attacks just fine.
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Anonymous
7/8/2025, 7:54:50 AM No.3798938
>>3798832
>>3798884
Your attacks barely do any damage even if you lvl up str. The only way to do good damage is to have your demons spam magic, hit the enemies weakness, and wail on them. And the only way to enable them to spam said magic is by spamming weak attacks yourself. You can sneak a heavy in sometimes but they needed to rebalance the mag system to not make it so tiresome. As is raidou exists basically to pump mag into his demons like a living IV

The original it was almost the opposite. Raidou did tons of damage and your demons weren't particularly useful outside of heal boting. I didn't even fuse demons in the original since it was so easy you could just get by with whatever you found and captured.

Wish there was a middle ground
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Anonymous
7/8/2025, 8:07:41 AM No.3798943
>>3798938
There is.
Play 2.
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Anonymous
7/8/2025, 9:58:23 PM No.3799310
>>3798943
I loved king abaddon I got it on release. I still have the raihou plush doll and keep it in my car. And I still got my physical copy somewhere in my box of ps2 and GameCube games. That's why I was kinda irratated with this remaster because they got the flow of combat down with raidou 2 but then many years later when remaking raidou 1 they fuck it up again. They shoulda had the dev team play through king abaddon together before making this.
Anonymous
7/12/2025, 6:47:57 AM No.3801411
>intimidate: reduce the chance of battle
in a game where you have to deliberately look for any combat? oh gee thanks game
Anonymous
7/13/2025, 6:22:00 AM No.3802086
Where can I find the DLC for the english game?
Only have it for the chink version.
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 3:14:04 PM No.3802214
>>3794250
>Just hope they dont make a tranny voice Argilla
you deserve it for being a dubfag
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 3:40:38 PM No.3802220
>>3802086
It's a never ever now that many of the switch nsp sites got taken down I think.
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 7:01:14 PM No.3802323
>>3802220
There are a few still around but none have the dlc.
Only the Raidou glasses.
Current pirate sites are a travesty.

>>3802214
To be fair there wasnt dual audio back then. The VA was good.
"I DO NOT COMPREHEND".
Anonymous
7/14/2025, 3:30:57 PM No.3803015
>>3793337
For the Japanese Naval Flag I want to point out that while they did censor that flag the original also had the standard flag so it's not like it's using a historical anachronism that wasn't already in the game.
Anonymous
7/14/2025, 3:35:20 PM No.3803021
>>3798821
I wish the gun was stronger. Magnum Rounds and fast reload kind of help but it's still too weak. My favorite skill in Raidou 2 was Megido Fire that turned your gun into a real attack, which they would have brought it back