Thread 3793419 - /vrpg/ [Archived: 330 hours ago]

Anonymous
6/29/2025, 11:16:36 PM No.3793419
mass-effect
mass-effect
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>one of the most iconic series of its time
>left abandoned for almost a decade now
do you think it's ever getting another game or is it dead for good
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 11:20:41 PM No.3793423
>>3793419 (OP)
>completely shit itself in the final episode to the point where nobody wants to give it another chance
>still they made andromeda
>but they made it very very bad
>so even the people who were willing to give ME another chance after how shit ME3 was were finally made to accept that the series was dead
it's not coming back
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 11:21:25 PM No.3793425
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they're literally working on it right now, it's the only reason Bioware hasn't been shut down

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mC2ib_efdRs
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 11:22:30 PM No.3793426
>>3793419 (OP)
We are getting 3
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 1:36:29 AM No.3793487
>series
>2nd is drama over details
>grittier and edgier (tm)
>waist high cover, ammo, blatantly gamey abilities
>gutted abilities which required some thought
>>>appeal to wider audiences<<<
The alien side boob controversy and its consequences were a disaster to the Mass Effect setting.
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Anonymous
6/30/2025, 2:43:23 AM No.3793516
>>3793487
ME2 isn't worth than one, it's just different. They're both two facets of Babylon 5, the show that inspired ME. ME1 is B5's main plot, ME2 has no plot and is just many different vignettes, and represents the deep character development of the Babylon 5 cast.
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 3:25:08 AM No.3793536
>>3793425
Oh shit...
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 3:26:23 AM No.3793539
I just want to see Tali and Miranda ride the elevator over and over. ( อกยฐ อœส– อกยฐ)
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 5:21:01 AM No.3793627
>>3793419 (OP)
3 made the setting unusable
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 12:06:52 PM No.3793749
>>3793419 (OP)
I could see it getting some more games. There is a room for a well made reboot.
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 11:12:10 PM No.3794072
According to Jason Schreierโ€™s report it seemed like the ME team is the only reason Bioware still exists, EA liked them more and put them on Veilguard to salvage it. Apparently the ending stood out from the rest of the game, thatโ€™s because it was made by them, IDK if anyone can confirm that Iโ€™m never going to play it
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Anonymous
6/30/2025, 11:15:45 PM No.3794074
>>3794072
Which is ironic, because the main reason Veilguard sucked is because it was made to copy Mass Effect. Which very obviously came from one of those retarded EA execs. Probably the kind retard Andrew Wilson that fucked over Anthem as well with his moronic ideas and mandates and unironically pushed for Veilguard to be a live service game (and then later had the gall to say "i told you so, veilguard failed because it wasn't live service!").

EA is the worst fucking thing to happen to Bioware and any studio they bought.
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 11:26:54 PM No.3794077
>>3793419 (OP)
IPs are allowed to die with grace.
Mass Effect didn't though, it had Andromeda.
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 12:09:23 AM No.3794087
>>3793419 (OP)
EA killed it. It's done for. Showed obvious signs of death with ME2 and then it died with 3.
I see it potentially getting it's Veilguard, a "too-little-too-late" game that results in Bioware's death as well.
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 2:15:08 AM No.3794156
>>3794087
Did you see the trailer that anon posted above? They're remaking it.
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 2:16:45 AM No.3794158
>>3794156
Sorry not remaking, it's ME5, started in 2020, expected maybe 2028.
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 3:46:11 AM No.3794195
>>3794158
It's doomed. All they had for years now was "Mass Effect Will Return" and now we have an ambiguous figure walking down a hall.
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 6:52:11 AM No.3794280
>>3793419 (OP)
Even if me2 had good aspects included in terms of memorable characters and gameplay, it shat the bed so hard that me3 never had a chance at salvaging the trilogy
It wouldve played better as a dlc to me2 with a good main story where you went to gain alliances with these special characters and attain readiness points
Me3 then needed to wrap up with more than continuing to solve your companions problems and actually have a coherent storyline that didnt rely on a deus ex machina
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 6:52:36 AM No.3794281
>>3794195
AAA game dev takes time. Pre-prod can take 2-3 years. Then active development 3-5.
That's an entirely realistic span of time. This is also why you generally don't announce projects until they're further along in development.
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 6:53:16 AM No.3794282
>>3793425
Mark my words, nothing good will come of it
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 6:53:56 AM No.3794283
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>>3794280
>me2
>shitting the bed
It's always funny being how inhumanely retarded ME1 fanboys are. No, don't reply. You're retarded after all, so won't write something intelligent or rational. Just wanted to laugh at you.
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 6:57:25 AM No.3794284
>>3794283
No one could show you guys how completely me2 destroyed the trilogy
I dont expect that to change now that bioware has both its legs in the grave it dug for itself all those years ago
And this is coming from someone who still enjoyed me2 butbisnt blind to what it did wrong
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 7:06:01 AM No.3794288
>>3794284
Why are you replying as if anyone will read your retarded shit, lol. Oh right, you're retarded.
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 7:24:00 AM No.3794298
>>3794288
I always have hope that I'm not talking to a tranimie faggot born out of rape
But alas, we can't always have what we want
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 7:33:14 AM No.3794303
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>>3794298
>the retard still replies expecting any intelligent person to read his subhuman drivel
You've been told why you're wrong and retarded every single time this is brought up, get a clue, clown
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 1:08:44 PM No.3794388
>>3793419 (OP)
1 is fucking great, albeit its pacing was meh
2 was great, but they nerfed space magic too much, and it wanted to be a cover shooter so bad it forgot what it actually was. lacked narrative focus too
3 wasnt good
andromeda was legendarily fucking terrible. like maybe among the most botched launches ever.

its 3 strikes, ur out
everyones scared of being the guy to strike out
shame too it actually had great lore/world-building
anyone who wrote that stuff is long long gone at bioware tho
expect nothing, or slop
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 1:14:44 PM No.3794389
>>3794388
>wanted to be a cover shooter so bad it forgot what it actually was
Mass Effect was always a third person cover shooter action game, with a focus on narrative and reactivity. It was never an RPG. ME1 simply had really bad combat, level design and atrocious inventory system (quite possibly the worst inventory and itemization ever made).
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 2:26:38 PM No.3794409
Call in an Asteroid Strike
Call in an Asteroid Strike
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>>3794288
Digits checked! message marked as unread! this is Commander Shepard SIGNING OUT
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 2:32:41 PM No.3794412
First Geth SPECTRE
First Geth SPECTRE
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>>3794195
>ambiguous figure
You mean the Geth?
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 4:15:11 PM No.3794483
I'm done. I don't care if a million game journalists scream 10/10 in my ear when Bioware finally shits out Mass Effect 5.
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 4:27:36 PM No.3794489
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>>3794303
my bd. heres my apology.you deserve what you get
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 4:57:45 PM No.3794506
>>3794072
Which team, I bet the people that worked on 1 and 2 are long gone.
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 8:49:25 PM No.3794571
>>3793419 (OP)
2026 new game announced already
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 9:01:28 PM No.3794582
>>3793425
>10 seconds of pre-rendered trailer
>2023
>nothing heard since
kek its over
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 9:10:02 PM No.3794584
>>3794582
>i don't know how game dev works
Plus when the game was initially announced, there wasn't even a team working on it. They used the reaction to the announcement to gauge interest if it's worth making.
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 9:55:39 PM No.3794602
>Ass Effect.
>Most iconic series.

Where the fuck is ME "iconic" apart from marketing buzzwordery? Its Dragon Age all over again. Had one questionably good installment that no one ever really talks about, then continued with ME 2 - The one everyone memory holed, ME 3 - The one everyone would like to forget and ME A - The only one that survived in the collective consciousnes as the terrible one with memes which are today probably completely ripped out of context because again, everyone kinda forgot about it. If you ask some very specific questions someone may mention the first one but thats it.

Meanwhile considering how vast you want to stretch "of its time" you have shit like:
Fallout 3 and NV, Witcher, RDR, Kotor, Borderlands, Far Cry, TES and I probably still forgot a shitload of franchises. Games that dictated trends, defined gameplay, get refered to till today or implemented features/artstyles of that time period.
The only thing iconic for ME was that you could bang literally everyone and thats nothing else besides a development from earlier Bioware titltes that featured romancing cranked up to 11 so they could at least offer a dating sim for 2 and 3 since the ember was already dead there.
They had the chance to found a universe where not all aliens are just differently colored humans, animal like bipedals or humans plus but they even fucked that over because the cool alien races they had implemented in 1 got completely brushed away in favor of hot blue sex cult mommy, space gypsy sex girl and gay Halo elites sex bf.
Cant sexo squid. Cant sexo little semi genderless guy in space suit, or mushroomface looking hulk, so they not gonna get any important screentime.
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 12:39:00 AM No.3794640
Drunken Karin
Drunken Karin
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>>3794602
>you could bang literally everyone
How do I bang Dr.Chocolates??
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 3:29:32 AM No.3794696
>>3793423
This. They blew it. Now it will be immortalized as generic trash on Amazon TV
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 9:08:30 AM No.3794812
mass-effect-2-a-550x309
mass-effect-2-a-550x309
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I miss this trilogy. The world building was awesome. You had a whole expansive and connected universe. Nothing else comes close. Maybe like just watching Star Trek.
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 2:09:14 PM No.3794905
Kasumi unmasked
Kasumi unmasked
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>>3794602
>you could bang literally everyone
How do I bang Goto??
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 3:24:33 PM No.3794924
>>3794905
You did. Goto stole all cutscenes.
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 4:15:23 PM No.3794941
hope it's dead.
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 4:33:24 PM No.3794949
AI Kasumi
AI Kasumi
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>>3794924
THE STOLEN MEMORY! i get it now
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 12:50:55 AM No.3795224
Enhanced Defense INT
Enhanced Defense INT
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>>3794602
>you could bang literally everyone
HOW DO I BANG MY STAR SHIP'S QUANTUM BLUE BOX CPU? asking for a friend
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 3:24:58 AM No.3795278
Bioware can't write a good plot.

1 was good
2 had good gameplay and was cozy with the teambuilding, but shat the bed on the overall arching plot
3 was garbage and was when the 2000 pound gorilla started to fling shit across the room
Andromeda... was a game
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 3:28:56 AM No.3795281
>>3795278
>but shat the bed on the overall arching plot
ME1 is entirely to blame for that. The only thing any sequel until the final one could do was to blueball with how the setup for 1 ended.
ME2 did an admirable job of keeping things interesting in spite of getting buttfucked by ME1's writers.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:16:22 AM No.3795329
>>3793419 (OP)
Same with Dragon Age where they cared about the lore in the first game.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 6:37:33 AM No.3795358
>>3795281
>ME1 is entirely to blame for that. The only thing any sequel until the final one could do was to blueball with how the setup for 1 ended.
Why's that? ME1's ending was open enough to have carte blanche to do anything
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 9:13:08 AM No.3795429
>>3795358
Because it sets up
>reapers are coming and when they do everything is fucked. it's the endgame when that happens
meaning if you have that happen in the second game you would have to end the trilogy there or spend an entire game on a wild goose chase fucking everything up and ending in a cliffhanger (i.e. an even worse blueballing and unsatisfying story).
They chose the first option and to make the second game's narrative at least satisfying (unlike the second option) they chose a new mysterious enemy you had to defeat that tied in with the reapers whille fleshing out the reapers and what happened to prior civilizations more. They were also smart enough to focus more on the companions, changing things up with working with Cerberus and the list goes on.

In terms of narrative, the team of ME2 did a good job considering the shit sandwich ME1 left them with.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 9:21:37 AM No.3795432
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1744791789712261
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>>3793419 (OP)
breeding machine
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:18:47 PM No.3795573
>>3793419 (OP)
>Have good writers who tell a good story
>capitalize on the success by firing all the writers
>franchise goes down the shitter
>but it doesn't matter bcuz vidya faggots are brainwashed NPCs loyal to The Brand
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 4:16:43 PM No.3795647
>>3795429
>Because it sets up
>>reapers are coming and when they do everything is fucked. it's the endgame when that happens
In 50000 more years? Or even more? How long does it take to travel from intergalactic space to the Milky Way? ME2 could have been spent looking for loopholes. Actually looking, instead of dying into one in the most cartoonishly retarded way possible. And then being techno-magically raised as a cyberzombie. Hmm, I've only described the intro and first 15 minutes and it's already a steaming pile of shit.
Will be fun to see what the anon you were talking to thinks of that too.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 9:07:36 PM No.3795790
>>3795429
No, you are just a dullard without much creativity. YOU can't imagine how to carry the plot forward, but that's a YOU problem. ME1 left open several important questions that a sequel could have explored. ME2 gets its nature as a sequel partly right; it focuses more on characters. That was, at its base, the right call. However they still needed to develop the universe and story beyond that, which they didn't do. The Collectors are also, at their core, a creative idea, however they aren't developed well or used well and ultimately nothing they are doing advances the plot.

ME2 should have answered the following in a constructive way:

1) How will Reapers return without the Citadel?

2) When will they return?

3) Are they even awake?

4) Why was Sovereign so focused on the Citadel if there was some other means of facilitating their invasion?

We can assume, with a little meta knowledge, that the Reapers do have some other back-up plan. It would be foolish of them not to and it isn't as if the series is going to move forward and forget that Reapers exist. Hell, the Galactic Core is a good place to hide another back-up Mass Relay. ME2 should have been a character focused story with a back-drop of galactic espionage, dirty politics, and discovery.

Consider that the Collectors are a known faction that barters in advanced technology for biological specimens. Their tech gives anyone who gets access to it a temporary technological edge. This suggests that many factions and species would compete for deals with the Collectors. This ought to include Cerberus, the STG, and the Spectres. Imagine if a sub-plot in ME2 was discovering that not only has Cerberus done deals with the Collectors, and hence why TIM is able to deduce the kind of team you need to defeat them, but so too have the STG and Spectres? Suddenly the dynamic is a lot more murky as they are all self interested.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 9:17:21 PM No.3795792
>>3795647
>ME2 could have been spent looking for loopholes.
So you think a different form of blueballing that is just a wild goose chase with no real enemy to fight would be more interesting, exciting and better than what we got.
What you're describing would've been infinitely worse and universally hated.

>>3795790
>No, you are just a dullard without much creativity. YOU can't imagine how to carry the plot forward, but that's a YOU problem.
This kind of irrational fanboy behavior makes me disregard people like you instantly. I have zero interest in engaging and wasting time on close-minded biased idiots. This reply is a pity reply because you at least typed something up, even if it was just delusional irrational drivel.

Again, you're reiterating what I said too, making you an even bigger idiot. What you're describing is a blueballing goose chase with no real threat for that game to fight.

>1) How will Reapers return without the Citadel?
>2) When will they return?
>3) Are they even awake?
>4) Why was Sovereign so focused on the Citadel if there was some other means of facilitating their invasion?
Yes, riveting stuff. This is stuff that could be relegated to side quests at best, not the main narrative for an entire game. I'm guessing you think there should be no real clear goal and no real clear threat either, just ranom Geth or something. For someone mouthing off amout creativity, you sure didn't think any of this through. It's just a kneejerk hatepost.

Take a step back and do a reality check, because I have no interest in spending hours trying to talk sense into you that will just be a big waste of time because you're an overdefensive ME1 fanboy that thinks ME1 is entirely blameless.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 9:39:54 PM No.3795806
>>3795792
>This kind of irrational fanboy behavior makes me disregard people like you instantly. I have zero interest in engaging and wasting time on close-minded biased idiots.
Yet you wrote quite a bit. However I can tell from your tone you aren't interested in a discussion anyway. Have a nice day.
Anonymous
7/4/2025, 3:20:57 AM No.3796015
>>3793425
after Veilguard, i have zero faith in this.

I do wonder which ME1 character(s) they will absolutely shit on in that game, like what they did with Loghain in Veilguard
Anonymous
7/4/2025, 3:58:46 AM No.3796040
>>3795429
>the team of ME2 did a good job considering the shit sandwich ME1 left them with.
>>3795281
>ME2 did an admirable job of keeping things interesting in spite of getting buttfucked by ME1's writers.
This is hilarious logic. The sequel to the first game got buttfucked because it had to work with plots from the first game? That's what a sequel is supposed to do!
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Anonymous
7/4/2025, 11:23:46 AM No.3796226
>>3796040
It's just a resident faggot who creates artificial arguments for "engagement". He parasitises on many games where he stirs shit, often makes the threads too. After a while the only benefit of ever replying to any of his obvious shit is if it is sufficient to fool newfags. Then again, still caring about a website so few others still care about gives rapidly diminishing returns.
Anonymous
7/4/2025, 1:40:36 PM No.3796292
>>3793425
garbage drip, already looks like shit