Thread 3794615 - /vrpg/

Anonymous
7/1/2025, 11:01:09 PM No.3794615
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Post your favorite Final Fantasy moments. For me it's Seifer casually slicing Odin in half in FF8.
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 11:06:37 PM No.3794616
>>3794615 (OP)
Arriving at Zanarkand ruins.
>"Legendary guardian? I was just a boy."
>Yuna's recorded farewells
>Seeing the ruins up from the mountain
>Camp scene
>music throughout the battles
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 11:32:51 PM No.3794621
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Cecil becoming a Paladin in 4
Galuf's last stand in 5
Floating Continent in 6
Midgar Escape in 7
Garden vs Garden in 8
Protecting Alexadria in 9
"I am salvation given form... Mankind's first hero, and its final hope" - FF14
"Off the throne, Jester", the only good moment in 15
vs Bahamut in 16
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 1:19:33 AM No.3794660
>>3794615 (OP)
Minfilia getting the shit kicked out of her in FF14, worst female character in the franchise and yes that includes Rafa.
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 1:28:13 AM No.3794661
>>3794621
Adding to these, which are great:
>The Return of the Emperor as Demon Lord in 2
>Trip to the moon in 4
>First exploring the world of ruin
>First couple Laguna Excursions and Scramble for Edea's asasination
>You are not Alone in 9
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 1:34:52 AM No.3794663
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>>3794615 (OP)
For a boss out of nowhere he sums up the themes of the game so perfectly, it's almost as if they wrote the rest of the game specifically for him.
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 1:38:20 AM No.3794665
>>3794663
>it's almost as if they wrote the rest of the game specifically for him.

felt too out of left field for me, like Ultimecia
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 2:42:42 AM No.3794681
>>3794665
>felt too out of left field for me
Books in the library. You did not read.
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 5:03:30 AM No.3794725
galuf dying
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 5:14:19 AM No.3794731
>>3794681
how does any of that crap even hint art Nercon's "oh yeah, I am here" for the final battle?
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 5:42:05 AM No.3794743
>>3794615 (OP)
Waiting for shadow in ff6
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 6:31:17 AM No.3794755
FF4:
Bomb ring
Cecil becomes paladin
Tellah's meteor
Palom porom & the demon wall
"Spoony bard"
Every Kain's betrayal

FF6:
Phantom train
Every Kefka scene, particularly the Thamasa one
Strago joins a cult
Diving helmet
Gogo's recruitment
Ultros

FF7:
The whole Midgar section, and then the feeling when you left Midgar for the first time
Seeing impaled Midgar Zolom
Cloud's past and backstory, best plot twist in gaming
Zack's last stand
Dyne backstory
Cid and his wife backstory

FFT:
Every scene with Algus being a chud
Every Wiegraf fight
The golgorand execution site fight
Riovanes rooftop fight
Zombie Zalbag
Dycedarg confrontation
Mossfungus in grave
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 6:41:26 AM No.3794760
>>3794731
You're right, it is extremely contrived, it makes thematic sense, but it's extremely poorly hinted at and feels completely random. Most peoples reaction to Necron will be "who the fuck is this?" though it's not like the actual villain from a moment before was even very memorable at all
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 6:46:41 AM No.3794762
>>3794615 (OP)
Celes' suicide (FF6)
Opera scene (FF6)
Cecil becoming a Paladin (FF4)
Gilgamesh fight on the bridge (FF5)
Meteor appears in the sky (FF7)
Aerith's death (FF7)
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 6:46:44 AM No.3794763
>>3794760
I sometimes think Kuja is the real final boss of 9.
Like how BFA is the final boss of 10, not that tacked on Yu Yevon tick
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 7:01:31 AM No.3794771
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>>3794615 (OP)
Everything about the Balamb Garden Assault.
The entire segment was amazing and no other FF has matched it for me.
So badass.
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 7:04:46 AM No.3794773
Emperor Mateus becoming king of hell out of nowhere.
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 7:38:59 AM No.3794784
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>>3794771
Just did that last night, was a good time. Just farmed items for the good weapons in G-garden and am now getting Toberry King.
Over lvl 50 at the end of disc 2, it's way more fun if you actually fight most enemies.
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 7:49:45 AM No.3794790
The FMVs in IX are incredible
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 8:08:23 AM No.3794791
>>3794790
The only good thing that came out of it
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 8:11:40 AM No.3794793
>>3794784
Well I imagine you got spoiled by OP.
Will you get Gilgamesh or keep Odin? You can actually skip Odin until after the OP to keep him.
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 8:17:22 AM No.3794798
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>>3794793
I skipped Odin. Picrel, got to him just to do it. But walked away. Got Tonberry, Cerberus, and Alexander in the last 3-4 hours. Just farmed some Adamantines (Qusitis' Degenerator limit one-hits the turtles).
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 8:27:48 AM No.3794799
>>3794798
I dont think there is anything that Degenerator doesn't one shot other than bosses.
At least dont remember. Its kinda funny how the hardest ability to get for her is kind of lame (The laser).
Odin is just much cooler and I rather certain death over randomly getting it whenever Gil shows up.
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 8:33:51 AM No.3794802
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>>3794799
I think Gilgamesh is cooler but I prefer not to have someone just pop up and kill enemies at random, I'm skipping both.
Degenerator is cheap, I only use it to farm items (like elnoyles to get energy crystals). The Adamantoise can also be beaten by casting reflect on them so their white wind doesn't heal them but after figuring that out I just blasted degenerator.
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 8:46:42 AM No.3794804
The Alexander summon in Type-0 was incredible. Honestly that game has a lot to like, I just wish it wasn't an unpolished PSP title.
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 12:42:33 PM No.3794874
>>3794615 (OP)
>can one-shot Odin
>piss-easy boss
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 2:46:00 PM No.3794914
>>3794804
>Honestly that game has a lot to like, I just wish it wasn't an unpolished PSP title.

or directed by that hack Hajime Tabata
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 6:09:03 PM No.3795026
The scene where Shadow and Interceptor spitroast Relm in VI.
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 6:10:46 PM No.3795029
>>3794755
Wiegraf was the best villain in most of FF history. The Vesuvius fight and transformation were awesome. Badass looking with sick music.
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 6:26:40 PM No.3795039
>>3794784
>Over lvl 50 at the end of disc 2, it's way more fun if you actually fight most enemies.
Not really. I was level 100 by the end of disc three and it was still pretty boring, because fighting the tough stuff you need in order to level up is going to give you materials that refine into spells to make you stronger, and if you use them, you'll still be strong as fuck.
>inb4 "HURRRRR, don't use them then"
When you have to rely on the player purposefully limiting themselves in order to have any kind of challenge or satisfaction, you've made a bad game. It's not even fucking hard to get OP and stay OP for the entirety of FF8. You basically just need to refine some curagas, waters, and tornadoes on disc 1 (incredibly easy as most of the items are drops/steals from common overworld enemies, or simply available to buy in stores), and then most of it won't need to be replaced until after the strong enemies appear in Esthar on disc 3โ€”and you'd need to farm those same enemies to get stuff to make the ultimate weapons, anyway.

Yeah, the most efficient way to get OP is to play Triple Triad obsessively in the early game, but even if you don't, you still practically trip over everything you need to stay OP throughout the game. FF8 is only challenging if you're the kind of retard who doesn't engage with game mechanics, won't look at their inventory, or simply can't look at two numbers and tell which is higher.
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 6:29:07 PM No.3795042
>>3795039
>FF8 is only challenging if you're the kind of retard who doesn't engage with game mechanics, won't look at their inventory, or simply can't look at two numbers and tell which is higher.
you just described the majority of western gamers.
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 6:31:55 PM No.3795049
>>3794615 (OP)
The whole Dyne/Barret thing was awesome. Two former bros having a shootout in the desert over the sins of the past is the most badass shit. It was a pretty hard fight too so that was a bonus.
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 6:57:05 PM No.3795064
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The scene in FFV, in the pub in Regole, where Bartz and Galuf sit down and have a drink and a chat for the first time since traveling to the second world. The game builds up to this bit in a lot of little ways, but even on its own, it's still a touching little moment between two friends who are just happy to be with each other again.
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 8:12:34 PM No.3795089
>>3795064
for me it's Galuf mourning Xezat
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 8:28:34 PM No.3795094
>>3795089
I played that part recently, and hilariously, the game does not take into account what happens if you have Galuf as the party leader at the moment. It results in Galuf watching himself mourning. I'm glad it wasn't my first playthrough because it really killed the mood, lol.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 3:41:42 PM No.3795636
>>3795039
>FF8 is only challenging if you're the kind of retard who doesn't engage with game mechanics, won't look at their inventory, or simply can't look at two numbers and tell which is higher.

or doesn't know the game level scales, so leveling is pointless
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 3:46:18 PM No.3795638
>>3795636
Yeah, "doesn't engage with game mechanics" that's what I said.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 3:48:13 PM No.3795640
>>3795638
>level scaling is good
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 4:17:13 PM No.3795648
>>3795640
I didn't say it was, retard. But if you play a game without trying to understand its mechanics and refusing to do what you actually need to do to get stronger, that's on you. Even if you knew jack shit about the level scaling in 1999, reading the instruction manual tells you that the best way to get stronger is to junction, and the game throws amazing refining materials right in your lap fairly early, so if you refuse to do that and instead just keep grinding and losing, it doesn't speak highly of your cognitive skills.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 4:22:01 PM No.3795650
>>3795648
>But if you play a game without trying to understand its mechanics and refusing to do what you actually need to do to get stronger, that's on you.

even if the game doesn't warn you that said mechanic, level scaling, existed in the first place?
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 4:23:50 PM No.3795651
>>3795648
>reading the instruction manual tells you that the best way to get stronger is to junction, and the game throws amazing refining materials right in your lap fairly early

and gives you the ability to draw spells from the start of the game, which either the manual or the game tells you is the best way to get spells
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 4:26:30 PM No.3795653
yet another thread ruined by FF8 fans hijacking it trying to defend their piece of shit game
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 4:27:30 PM No.3795654
>>3795651
>which either the manual or the game tells you is the best way to get spells
*citation needed
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:37:51 PM No.3795685
>>3795636
>the game level scales, so leveling is pointless
You're assuming the game scales linearly which isn't true. Different enemies scale at different rates and some gain additonal abilities at higher levels.
There was also min/max levelcaps in the PSX release.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 6:01:44 PM No.3795695
>>3795650
Even if you ignore the in-game tutorial and just start level grinding and reach a point where suddenly the enemies are fucking you up even more while your strength stagnates, wouldn't that make you say, "hmmm, is there maybe another way I can get stronger?"

The game shouldn't have to warn you that enemies will get more difficult, lmao. Finding a solution to that is your job as the player. And both the manual and the game literally give you the solution.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 7:21:31 PM No.3795738
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>>3794660
>worst female character in the franchise
lol, lmao even
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 10:29:26 PM No.3795823
>>3794615 (OP)
turning off my playstation, taking ffviii out of the disc drive, and never playing it again
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 10:38:06 PM No.3795830
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Alexander in FF9
Anonymous
7/4/2025, 1:29:15 AM No.3795948
>>3795064
Call me a cynic but that's mid
Anonymous
7/4/2025, 1:33:06 AM No.3795952
>>3795738
I didn't get that far, I lost interest during Shadowbringers because of burnout with the story being constantly dragged off in other directions for meaningless bulllshit. I love FF14's story when it's about the ascians and empire but everything outside of that is "Why the fuck should I care?"

QRD on this cute cat?
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Anonymous
7/4/2025, 1:33:20 AM No.3795953
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>>3794660
>worst female character in the franchise

she exists
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Anonymous
7/4/2025, 1:34:21 AM No.3795956
>>3795952
>QRD on this cute cat?

a character introduced in Dawntrail that is only hated because the English Voice Actor is transgender
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Anonymous
7/4/2025, 1:40:20 AM No.3795961
>>3795956
So nothingburger then, got it. Minfillia still sits atop the throne of the spineless. I was so convinced her lack of a backbone as deliberate sabotage, I was expecting Merlwyb and Raubahn to kick the door down to her office and straight-up accuse her of working for the empire.

But no nothing interesting like that, she's just fucking spineless.
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Anonymous
7/4/2025, 1:43:48 AM No.3795965
>>3795961
and the character a ton of screetime in Dawntrail
Anonymous
7/4/2025, 1:44:30 AM No.3795966
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>>3795956
>that is only hated because the English Voice Actor is transgender
shut the fuck up retard. she's hated because she hijacks the entire story to be the main character and it's just the most generic feelgood slop imaginable. yeah people were being transphobic but that's always gonna happen, there was legitimate problems with her character
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Anonymous
7/4/2025, 1:46:07 AM No.3795967
>>3795966
hi, chud
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Anonymous
7/4/2025, 1:48:01 AM No.3795969
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>>3795967
sorry buster not falling for it
Anonymous
7/4/2025, 2:27:40 AM No.3795983
>>3795966
It's an MMORPG, the story is always going to have some NPC be the main character.
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Anonymous
7/4/2025, 2:29:36 AM No.3795985
>>3795953
To say she was the worst written would be to imply she was written at all
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Anonymous
7/4/2025, 2:36:21 AM No.3795988
>>3795985
true, Stella had no writing and screeentime at all in 15
Anonymous
7/4/2025, 3:36:12 AM No.3796026
>>3795983
i shouldn't be surprised the contrarian lobotomites on the 4 channel would be apologizing for the shittiest character in final fantasy.
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Anonymous
7/4/2025, 3:37:12 AM No.3796027
>>3796026
>the shittiest character in final fantasy.

but she is from FF14. Everyone from 15 is worse than her
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Anonymous
7/4/2025, 4:15:06 AM No.3796051
>>3796026
14 even lampshades the fact that WOL's entire communication method is either giving you a look or just nodding. You're practically a deutagonist compared to people like Alphinaud.
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Anonymous
7/4/2025, 4:57:25 AM No.3796060
>>3796027
>>3796051
>>>/lgbt/
Anonymous
7/4/2025, 9:46:49 AM No.3796161
>>3795952
Don't listen to >>3795956, he's an obvious troll.

The English voice actor is absolutely awful with zero emotional range regardless of whether or not he's trans, but that's not the reason Wuk Lamat is hated because she's hated across all language zones including Japan. She's hated because she's an insufferable Mary Sue who forces her way into the main character slot and forces the player to be reduced to little more than a babysitter for her adventures, who constantly forces herself into the spotlight including getting the killing blow on the final boss of her expansion, and who literally gets everything handed to her for free because she has the power of friendship, despite being a sheltered child with zero real-life skills and not even the most basic knowledge of the very kingdom we help her become the ruler of.

The expansion has more narrative issues than just Wuk Lamat (gameplay-wise it's actually a pretty decent expansion), but she represents the worst of them.
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Anonymous
7/4/2025, 10:56:48 AM No.3796186
>>3795961
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnP4LQhYTvQ
Anonymous
7/4/2025, 10:58:15 AM No.3796187
>>3795961
>When Wuk Lamat isn't on the screen, every character should be asking "Where's Wuk Lamat?"
It's just a classic example of a poochie character
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Anonymous
7/4/2025, 2:38:52 PM No.3796320
>>3796187
>It's just a classic example of a poochie character

just like Marie Sue from Persona 4 Golden
Anonymous
7/4/2025, 7:21:52 PM No.3796450
>>3796161
This man understands.

It's kind of insane how we go from one of the hardest-hitting emotional expansions stories back to back (ShB and EW), then we get forced into this Nick Jr level of creative writing until the Alexandria section kicks in and it feels like proper XIV again (mostly).
>Bakool Ja Ja's school bully-tier dialogue
>Bakool Ja Ja just getting away with it scot free. Valigarmanda makes fire that burns forever for fucks sake. Oh, but he had a sad backstory and just wanted to play on the playground, its ok guys.
>Krile's backstory payoff relegated to a single scene
>Yuck Lamat walking 30 feet down a road within visibility and then getting kidnapped for a questline.
>"I love tacos and xibruq pibil guys!"
>voice actor sounds like they're shouting in lowercase when things get emotional.
I know this is hyperbolic, but it really is that bad. I agree with the previous guy that the gameplay content has been pretty good overall though.
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Anonymous
7/5/2025, 12:08:20 PM No.3796924
>>3794615 (OP)
the fact they never merked this faggot makes FF8 gay.
Replies: >>3796934
Anonymous
7/5/2025, 12:39:52 PM No.3796934
>>3796924
I, for one, would've certainly relished the pleasure of a definitive kill on that freak ass motherfucker.
Replies: >>3796966
Anonymous
7/5/2025, 12:57:15 PM No.3796947
>>3796450
>hating on bakool when he was one of the better characters in the expansion
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Anonymous
7/5/2025, 1:47:35 PM No.3796966
>>3796934
Or anything. I know a lot of content was dropped and time compression occured but it was like the forgot he existed until the ending cinematic.

It didn't even need to be high effort. Personally I would have put a tomb with hyperion on the top of it in one corner of Ultimecias castle with [The writing is too worn to read but this is clearly Seifers gunblade] as an interaction.
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 5:59:10 PM No.3797776
>>3794621
>vs Bahamut in 16
The buildup to this fight is incredible. As soon as you touch down in the mission it's just nonstop greatness.
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 6:01:28 PM No.3797777
>>3794755
>Zack's last stand
????
He didn't have this in FF7. He got distracted and got 1 tapped.
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 12:08:40 AM No.3797939
>>3797777
Crisis Core
Replies: >>3798432
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 4:19:01 AM No.3798073
>>3794663
>>3794665
I never see people make the connection but to me, Necron feel like FF3's Cloud of Darkness, while Kuja is like Xande. Like Kuja, Xande's motivation is his fear of his own mortality, given to him by his master. They are the real villains of their story, but their actions lead to the appearance of Cloud of Darkness and Necron, both of which are more like "conceptual" villains representing death.
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 5:28:48 AM No.3798109
>>3794615 (OP)
Climbing Kefka's tower. 16 year-old me thought that it was some of the deepest symbolism ever made. I still think it's pretty incredible, but a lot of the depth I ascribed to it might be headcanon.
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 5:31:02 AM No.3798111
>>3797777
I mean, that scene Zack had where he got shot repeatedly even after death still plays in my mind.
Like the way his body twitched with that blocky model gives way more impression than the crisis core's last stand.
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 2:35:58 PM No.3798432
>>3797939
>Crisis Core
His Tifa quads obliterated you and you bring up modder fan fiction? There was only the PSX original for FF7 and thatโ€™s it. No spinoffs and no โ€œremakesโ€.
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 3:08:58 PM No.3798454
>>3794663
Yeah, it's almost as if he's not actually "out of nowhere", and fighting the avatar of death in a game that's all about how you let your fear of death define your life makes perfect sense.
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 3:13:36 PM No.3798456
>>3798454
>>3794663
Hardcore cope. Necron has no build up, no foreshadowing, no lore and no place in the game. Fans of this shit bend over backwards to try and invent headcanon fudges to make it work but it just doesn't.
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 3:19:54 PM No.3798464
>>3798456
Hot take: ff9 is bad
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 3:28:04 PM No.3798467
>>3798456
>same old debunked talking points
yawn
Replies: >>3799292
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 4:05:36 PM No.3798474
>>3798432
>modder fan fiction

it's a legitimate game, deal with it
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 4:14:57 PM No.3798480
>>3798456
>Fans of this shit bend over backwards to try and invent headcanon fudges to make it work but it just doesn't.

just like how fans of 8 try to do the debunked R=U bullshit to make that out of nowhere final boss make sense
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 4:22:45 PM No.3798486
>>3798480
>to make that out of nowhere final boss make sense
She wasn't "out of nowhere" though, she was from the future. I thought it was pretty well established.
Replies: >>3798493
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 4:28:15 PM No.3798491
>>3798474
>legitimate
No.
>game
It certainly is one of the games of all time.
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 4:32:00 PM No.3798493
>>3798486
I knew that part, the cop-out was the asspull of "she was possessing Edea the whole time" bullshit
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 6:54:44 PM No.3798548
>>3796947
>poop is better than diarrhea, dont hate on it.
Koana and I dunno, Sphene I guess are the only decent characters that come to mind.
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 7:35:44 PM No.3798574
>>3794660
>Worst female character in the franchise
>Not Penelo
Come on anon
Replies: >>3798862
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 7:55:10 PM No.3798588
0_0U82CBNJAfbxRnYT
0_0U82CBNJAfbxRnYT
md5: 17d7dd3af769ee9a0622c66bc9b32252๐Ÿ”
>>3794615 (OP)
Nanaki learns the truth about his father
>Cosmo Canyon theme is underrated
Replies: >>3798590
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 7:58:37 PM No.3798590
>>3798588
This hits way harder as an adult replaying it, than as a kid.
Replies: >>3798599
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 8:15:15 PM No.3798599
z36g0yenrrpb1
z36g0yenrrpb1
md5: fad5ccc4a684c6577a20114181d36902๐Ÿ”
>>3798590
Anonymous
7/8/2025, 3:27:44 AM No.3798862
Linkpearl, fucking use it!
Linkpearl, fucking use it!
md5: 5c28d3c86d88a3d4bb9021f9ef718a25๐Ÿ”
>>3798574
Penelo ranks pretty low but she at least throws a punch. Minfilia does LITERALLY NOTHING in 14, she contributes NOTHING to the story, she is such a massive inconvenience that 14 gives you a FUCKLOAD of free aetheryte travel tickets for every time the bitch tells you to "return to the Waking Sands".

I would put up with a party made up purely of Penelo, Rafa, Dagger, and Malak for an entire game than tolerate Minfilia for another five fucking minutes.
Replies: >>3798893
Anonymous
7/8/2025, 4:42:49 AM No.3798893
>>3798862
Minfilia gets you aetheryte travel tickets
Penelo is a blank slate that gives you nothing in any metric whatsoever, no character, no story, nothing. I dare you to tell me ONE THING about Penelo without looking it up.
Replies: >>3798897 >>3811294
Anonymous
7/8/2025, 4:54:00 AM No.3798897
>>3798893
I mean yeah she's pretty pointless I will admit, but she doesn't actively make the game worse by existing.
Replies: >>3798904
Anonymous
7/8/2025, 5:15:38 AM No.3798904
>>3798897
Not sure about that, I feel like her existence gave me some sort of disease triggered by extreme lameness.
That said, 12 has the worst characters in any FF game full stop - worst protag, worst love interest, worst antagonist etc
Replies: >>3799288 >>3799291
Anonymous
7/8/2025, 8:47:47 PM No.3799288
>>3798904
>That said, 12 has the worst characters in any FF game full stop - worst protag, worst love interest, worst antagonist etc

even worse than 15?
Replies: >>3799303
Anonymous
7/8/2025, 9:04:58 PM No.3799291
>>3798904
Did 12 even have a love interest?
Replies: >>3799303 >>3799322
Anonymous
7/8/2025, 9:16:31 PM No.3799292
>>3798467
>DEBOOONKED

lmao yeah I guess necron is a fine villain when you hallucinate up a reason for him to exist that isn't actually in the game itself
Anonymous
7/8/2025, 9:47:56 PM No.3799303
page_vaan
page_vaan
md5: a64dee9934515695f794e18dc62fa77e๐Ÿ”
>>3799288
Yes, easily. The cast in 12 was so bad that it gaslit you into thinking Balthier was cool, when actually he was just slightly less shit than everyone else.
>>3799291
Honestly I'm not even sure, the characters were so bland. I thought the princess whose name I can't remember who might not have been a princess had a thing with Vaan? Or was it Penelo, or was she Vaan's sister? Who knows? Who cares?
Another thing that pisses me off about 12 - there is no logical reasoning behind why any of them should be remotely strong, with the possible exception of Basch. At least in other FF games people are knights or soldiers or something that justifies their potential strength. What the fuck even IS Vaan? WHAT IS HE?
SERIOUSLY JUST LOOK AT THIS GUY
FFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
Replies: >>3799334
Anonymous
7/8/2025, 10:24:56 PM No.3799322
>>3799291
>Did 12 even have a love interest?

Ashe had a fiancee who died in the like the first 10 minutes.
Replies: >>3799327
Anonymous
7/8/2025, 10:32:32 PM No.3799327
>>3799322
That's even worse than XV, somehow
Replies: >>3799368
Anonymous
7/8/2025, 10:38:20 PM No.3799334
>>3799303
>The cast in 12 was so bad that it gaslit you into thinking Balthier was cool
That tripped me out. Everyone talks about how he was so cool and badass and the real main character, but in the actual game he's this fucking fop who INSISTS he's the main character but then proceeds to be just as irrelevant and forgettable as Vaan except his tiny backstory is a little closer to the Empire. Not to mention his fruity-ass jewelry.
Replies: >>3799539
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 12:28:41 AM No.3799368
>>3799327
>That's even worse than XV, somehow

I wouldn't say so. Dude wasn't hyped up to be important at all while XV was driving it home how important Stella was and how people were devastated after her lameass death
Replies: >>3799370
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 12:32:22 AM No.3799370
1640529091702_thumb.jpg
1640529091702_thumb.jpg
md5: d43854e41070e4f2986c816dbb707c1d๐Ÿ”
>>3799368
That was Luna. Stella was cut from the game and had arguably more character in the trailers and previews she was in than her replacement.
Replies: >>3799371
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 12:36:29 AM No.3799371
>>3799370
I see, I keep on forgetting the name of the love interest from XV BECAUSE SHE HAS NO SCREENTIME
Replies: >>3799374
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 12:38:02 AM No.3799374
>>3799371
Understandable. I followed Versus since the 2006 announcement and had the misfortune to watch it get built up and then dismantled in real time.
Replies: >>3799375
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 12:39:29 AM No.3799375
>>3799374
you know you done fucked up when half of a character's screentime is the LSD type cutscene after getting shanked.
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 7:15:06 AM No.3799539
>>3799334
Exactly this. Balthier in any other FF game would be considered lame, but the bar in 12 was set SO LOW he was considered awesome and cool. In my opinion, that alone highlights Vaan as the worst protag in any FF game, and Penelo is like Vaan but somehow worse.
In fact, when was the last time an FF game, or even just the Japs in general, managed to create a female character in a game like Penelo? One who is so bland she generates no fan fiction, no weeb interest, no goonerbait, no love, not even really any hate, just the world's loudest meh of irrelevancy.
Penelo is the Kristen Stewart of FF females.
Replies: >>3799590
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 10:01:13 AM No.3799590
>>3799539
Played it recently. I think Balthier is actually a decent character. He and Fran are just FF Han Solo and Chewy. You even get a cool judge dad fight and a redemption ending deal. I think the actual problem was too much story was cut to shoehorn in Vaan and Penelo. Even Basche and Ashe donโ€™t get enough screen time imho and theyโ€™re the main characters. I think we would have gotten a better game without Vaan and Penelo. Or at very least way better story telling.
Replies: >>3799591
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 10:05:05 AM No.3799591
>>3799590
It also bothers me that two of the characters are called Basche and Ashe, that kind of naming convention should be reserved exclusively for clumsy twins who only exist for comedic relief.
Replies: >>3801032
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 10:25:00 AM No.3799597
>>3794621
>"I am salvation given form... Mankind's first hero, and its final hope" - FF14
wtf is wrong with XIV fags. this game has the worst story of all FFs. Even ShB is utter shit.
Replies: >>3801035 >>3803308 >>3811313
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 6:59:45 PM No.3801009
6fd5e9ec088c2f3b_original
6fd5e9ec088c2f3b_original
md5: 4eca880c25333ca9c1d088f9425ac2ad๐Ÿ”
>>3794615 (OP)
I'm not really sure this should count, but the music in the opening to FFX - I remember playing it for the first time, and when that heavy guitar riff kicks in with those growly vocals, it really made me sit up and pay attention. It was so unlike anything FF had done up to that point, and even now when I replay it that music has a certain impact on me
Now I think about it, it's kinda strange how it's so out of step with the rest of the game, with the focus being on religion and the hymn of the faith - I wonder what they were thinking?
Replies: >>3801175 >>3808926
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 7:30:23 PM No.3801032
>>3799591
One is a long a, the other is a short a
It's only confusing if you're ESL
Replies: >>3801232
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 7:32:10 PM No.3801035
>>3799597
ShB and Endwalker are two of the best FF stories told within the last decade. Apparently Dawntrail is dogshit, but I'll never play it. That said, you're a retarded faggot who's clearly never touched ShB or EW and/or you genuinely have shit taste.
Replies: >>3801036
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 7:33:12 PM No.3801036
>>3801035(You)
*last TWO decades
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 7:35:49 PM No.3801040
>>3798474
You literally listed it as FFVII. It's not FFVII, it's a spinoff/prequel. Nice backpedal though.
Replies: >>3801301
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 7:39:30 PM No.3801054
>>3798456
>The avatar of death has no buildup
You're a retarded moron
Replies: >>3801134
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 9:42:00 PM No.3801134
>>3801054
Nowhere in the game is he stated to be the avatar of death
The avatar of death is mentioned nowhere in the game as a concept within the world
Necron himself is never mentioned in the game

Zero build up. Everything you believe about Necron is from either secondary sources made up after the fact, or your own schizo headcanon.
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 10:35:06 PM No.3801175
>>3801009
>it's kinda strange how it's so out of step with the rest of the game, with the focus being on religion and the hymn of the faith - I wonder what they were thinking?
Could be just that: to highlight the difference between the worlds.

Remember the yevon prayer used to be just a sign for victory in blizzball, nothing religious.

And maybe the rebellious vibe ties into Tidus coming from a different world to defy Spira's entire foundation, but maybe that's reaching too far.

It's a memorable intro and music, if nothing else.
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 11:49:28 PM No.3801232
>>3801032
nta, but you literally couldn't be more wrong
Replies: >>3801285
Anonymous
7/12/2025, 1:35:55 AM No.3801285
>>3801232
>uh uh uh uh no u!
Replies: >>3801361
Anonymous
7/12/2025, 1:59:25 AM No.3801301
>>3801040
it has FF7 in the title.
Anonymous
7/12/2025, 5:01:40 AM No.3801361
>>3801285
He's not entirely wrong. Neither name has a long a sound. Ashe does have a short a sound, though. So you're both only half retarded. That's still well above average around here.
Replies: >>3801464
Anonymous
7/12/2025, 9:19:33 AM No.3801464
>>3801361
Regardless of pronunciation, the names are still single-syllable rhymes that smack of bad design, which was surely anons point
Replies: >>3803546
Anonymous
7/13/2025, 7:37:46 AM No.3802103
unnamed
unnamed
md5: a814ceaf08716651c12e0adfd2c7b5fc๐Ÿ”
Replies: >>3802146 >>3806570
Anonymous
7/13/2025, 10:26:28 AM No.3802146
>>3802103
What a dreamboat!
Anonymous
7/14/2025, 9:54:07 PM No.3803308
>>3799597
In hindsight after playing them myself. I do agree, unfathomably MASSIVELY overrated
Replies: >>3811313
Anonymous
7/14/2025, 10:58:24 PM No.3803357
>>3794621
Ff was really something, before 13 came and destroyed it.
Anonymous
7/15/2025, 12:48:55 AM No.3803416
>>3794762
>Celes' suicide (FF6)
Yes but in typical Japanese fashion they immediately destroy the gravitas of the moment by removing all consequences
>Oh Celes just committed suicide by jumping off a cliff.
>Wakes up on the beach 3 seconds later perfectly fine, ready to continue the game.
If you're going to go there then really go there.
All JRPGs suffer from this, it's a massive flaw in story telling.
Anonymous
7/15/2025, 6:09:43 AM No.3803546
>>3801464
They dont rhyme, retard.
Replies: >>3803659 >>3805847
Anonymous
7/15/2025, 9:57:34 AM No.3803619
>>3795039
>complaining about lack of challenge
Anon, this thread is about Final Fantasy games. Fuck off.
Anonymous
7/15/2025, 11:32:13 AM No.3803659
>>3803546
Hate to side with him, but if you're unable to understand common pronunciations and cannot see the potential phonetic overlap you should apply for a job translating the next ff title.

Good translations account for potential regional dialects, it's one of the reasons you use a team of translators and don't rely on an individual.
Anonymous
7/16/2025, 12:57:37 AM No.3804121
1614139888392
1614139888392
md5: 6edf98bec30b73932e8a47fcb7918eff๐Ÿ”
>>3794755
>Mossfungus in grave
The sheer somberness of that always fucked me up a bit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOoKHp5wkss
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 1:25:28 PM No.3805847
>>3803546
Are you retarded?
Replies: >>3805880
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 2:52:03 PM No.3805880
>>3805847
Not that anon, but are you? They don't. They're approximate rhymes at best.
Replies: >>3805981
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 5:10:36 PM No.3805981
Screenshot from 2025-07-17 15-56-26
Screenshot from 2025-07-17 15-56-26
md5: 18a0a70100a4e03e732e653c282d1b11๐Ÿ”
>>3805880
Don't join in with their 'tardism:

>>How do you pronounce ashe
>"Ashe" is typically pronounced as "ash." The pronunciation rhymes with "cash" and "bash."
> - GPT-4o mini

>>How do you pronounce basche
>"Basche" is typically pronounced as "bash." It rhymes with "cash" and "flash."
> - GPT-4o mini
Replies: >>3806096
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 7:00:24 PM No.3806096
>>3805981
Wrong, it is pronounced 'bosch', all you have to do is play the fucking game and hear literally every character say it.

A.I.tards not beating the allegations
Replies: >>3806184
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 8:51:20 PM No.3806184
>>3806096
Swing and a miss:
https://youtu.be/34MVR2MzmVc?t=39
Replies: >>3806198
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 9:06:02 PM No.3806198
>>3806184
Why are you posting Japanese audio? Nobody gives a shit about that. We're talking American.
Replies: >>3806358
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 9:41:41 PM No.3806239
Cloud past
Cloud past
md5: 6c6f43bcb2f47e37d774825728719308๐Ÿ”
>>3794615 (OP)
The truth about what happened on Nibelheim and Cloud's past
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 10:22:00 PM No.3806294
>>3794615 (OP)
I never saw this because I killed him in three seconds with overdrive cheese
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 11:48:01 PM No.3806358
>>3806198
>Why are you posting Japanese audio? Nobody gives a shit about that.
FF as a franchise is plagued with translation issues so it would stand to reason that the pronunciation, as intended, would be in the original audio language.
Replies: >>3806399
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 1:06:57 AM No.3806399
>>3806358
And if I were reponding in incomprehensible moon-speak hieroglyphics, I might agree. But this conversation (at least on my end) is in English. So that's the translation I care about. Intention is of far less import than execution.
Replies: >>3806445
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 2:56:58 AM No.3806445
>>3806399
>Intention is of far less import than execution.
So Aeris...
Replies: >>3806478
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 4:55:54 AM No.3806478
>>3806445
When talking about the original? Yeah, perfectly acceptable. Literally any iteration after? No, because they changed it.
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 9:55:50 AM No.3806570
>>3802103
this scene fucked me up as a child. what a huge fucking bombshell to drop on the player seemingly out of nowhere.
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 5:26:40 AM No.3808925
When that kid killed his dad in crystal chronicles without knowing who he was

The siblings reuniting with their parents only for them to die in WoFF. I didn't expect that game to go in that direction
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 5:28:15 AM No.3808926
>>3801009
Wasnt X the first game where Uematsu stepped back a lot?
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 3:07:37 PM No.3809167
>>3794615 (OP)
>The FMV in the end credits of 8
>The bridge crossing in 1
>Cecil leaving the castle in 4
any scene with the ff theme is automatic kino
Replies: >>3809182
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 3:29:13 PM No.3809182
>>3809167
>The FMV in the end credits of 8
Underrated.
Replies: >>3809420
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 10:39:22 PM No.3809420
>>3809182
I will be honest, once Ultimecia died I turned the game off because I was finally done with this crappy game.

Other closest thing I have done to "skipping the 'ending'" is skipping the codec call the Patriot AI does to you at the end of the game. It was just a load of nonsense then and still is now because MGS4 proved it was all a lie
Replies: >>3809593
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 12:36:42 AM No.3809493
Anima and Seymour
Anima and Seymour
md5: 9e65728c5555b06fd61e213316220a62๐Ÿ”
Anima is the coolest summon in Final Fantasy.
Replies: >>3809892
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 3:14:39 AM No.3809567
20-C68_020
20-C68_020
md5: 9335a8de17892ad223a429f90fcda5b1๐Ÿ”
>>3794615 (OP)
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 4:12:01 AM No.3809593
>>3809420
Go back and watch it, YouTube if you have to. Itโ€™s an excellent denouement and end to the game.
Replies: >>3809594
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 4:20:01 AM No.3809594
>>3809593
I know it's a big party and that is about it.

Big deal
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 5:25:52 AM No.3809627
FF12's English dub is one of the best in the biz. Every culture has its own unique accent and not just gay ass British accent. Icelandic accents for the viera was an inspired choice
Replies: >>3809630
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 5:27:54 AM No.3809630
>>3809627
Did you watch a youtube video on 12?
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 5:01:55 PM No.3809892
>>3809493
>Anima is the coolest summon in Final Fantasy.
Sorry, but no: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EK_E1j6ayaI
Replies: >>3811408
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 6:10:24 PM No.3810704
The optional scene you get from a sidequest in FFVII where it implies Barret raped Tifa is pretty hilarious.
Replies: >>3810994 >>3811055
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 12:11:17 AM No.3810994
>>3810704
got proof this exists?
Replies: >>3811043
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 1:38:53 AM No.3811043
>>3810994
You could play the game and see it with your own eyes.
But to spoil it, he's referencing a scene where she complains shes forced to stay up all night with him to pay off her debts. Barret fires back that her only choices were to do it with him or Don Corneo.
Replies: >>3811049 >>3811055
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 1:53:11 AM No.3811049
>>3811043
You made the claim in the first place, so the burden of proof of it existing lies with you
Replies: >>3811054
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 2:02:26 AM No.3811054
>>3811049
I'm guessing ADHD with a side serving of 'tism, since you can't follow that we're two different people.
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 2:16:49 AM No.3811055
>>3810704
>>3811043
This sounds like bullshit, I have never heard of or seen this. What side quest?
Replies: >>3811068
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 2:34:18 AM No.3811068
>>3811055
he's making shit up since he hasn't provided proof
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 9:46:06 AM No.3811294
>>3798893

She likes Vaan to the extent you could probably classify her as dependent on him. She actually kinda crazy but she's cute so its ok.
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 11:09:31 AM No.3811313
emet selch
emet selch
md5: 6c4b192abdd21d65f665372037a8a25f๐Ÿ”
>>3799597
>>3803308
Not overrated at all.
Shadowbringers is very tight, with good antagonists, good voiceacting, great music, solid narrative with multiple standout moments and a solid small cast of characters.

Compared to FF13, FF13 spinoffs, FF15 and FF16 it absolutely dumpsters all of them.
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 2:20:31 PM No.3811403
>>3794615 (OP)
>it was at that point that I realized deities/summons didn't have internal organs like us human beings
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 2:22:36 PM No.3811404
FF4 Cecil Paladin
FF4 Cecil Paladin
md5: 9a8b9ed947283f9ab3b7a6900bb84a88๐Ÿ”
>>3794621
>Cecil becoming a Paladin in 4
yeah I thought that was pretty cool too.
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 2:29:55 PM No.3811408
>>3809892
Those lame text cut-ins with the voiceover explaining what's happening on screen completely ruin this scene.
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 2:35:39 PM No.3811411
>>3794615 (OP)
>Midgar Escape in 7
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19OECgt-pIw
kino esp. the music
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 2:41:30 PM No.3811412
ff6 apocalypse
ff6 apocalypse
md5: c99b69f0374546e5940682c4b9b0f9cb๐Ÿ”
>>3794621
>Floating Continent in 6
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 3:08:40 PM No.3811423
ssex
ssex
md5: 82548b4277bbd0b5d2643f60e662fe4f๐Ÿ”
Realizing this scene was implying they had sex

I was 13 and had only seen that in books and movies,
it was a big deal and serious mature writing to have a video game's story go that far

But also I was 13