Thread 3797377

Do you personally prefer it over Skyrim? Why?

Not asking whether or not you think it's dogshit or not, just wondering about the general consensus on the game compared to Skyrim.

>>3797377 (OP)
I like the original oblivion more than skyrim yes. I think this remake was complete trash because of UE5 and the new models though. Also trash changes like hp regeneration out of combat etc

>>3797377 (OP)
>Do you personally prefer it over Skyrim?
Yes.
>Why?
Fewer retarded fetch-quests, better main quest, comfy setting, amusing AI, less dumbing down, great DLCs.

>>3797384
>Fewer retarded fetch-quests
That's the entire main quest and Knights of the Nine DLC

>>3797405
I don't understand how people like Knights of the Nine so much. I think Oblivion is maybe the greatest ARPG of all time, or maybe tied with Skyrim is you want to bitch about leveling and poor combat, BUT even I, a super fan, was confused by Knights of the Nine. It was the biggest piece of shit DLC ever. I couldn't understand how Shivering Isles was so good, and then Knights is just, nothing. Pure fetch quests.

>>3797377 (OP)
I don't know, i like both. Hard to compare
Skyrim improved on the gameplay and the open world.
Oblivion had better quests and more Rpg elements to mess with.
Ultimately i think both games are great. They are better than those dogshit niche crpgs that get shilled constantly

>>3797377 (OP)
Unplayable trash. Runs at 17 fps on a 9070 xt. Would Skyrim be worse if it was unplayable? Maybe, Maybe.

i don't remember skyrim having so many fucking loading screens u go in a guild loading screen go downstairs loading screen go upstairs loading screen go back outside loading screen go in the inn loading screen go outside loading screen like dude i thought ue5 was supposed to be this super advanced engine that doesn't need a loading screen to go in the basement of a house like i don't even want to go in the towns cuz it will just be loading screen loading screen loading screen

>>3797414
>I don't understand how people like Knights of the Nine so much
Go on a holy pilgrimage
Behave viruously
Retrieve sacred relics from the clutches of evil
Kill a shitload of elves
What more could one possibly want from an RPG?

>>3797425
I have a 9070XT and it runs ok. Outside on Ultra it's about 60-75fps though, which should be better considering I have a 9800 AMD CPU as well.

The real problem is that Frame Generation is borked. Even in the current AMD drivers, it doesn't function properly for Oblivion. Bethesda needs to get off their ass and work with AMD to fix it. We've had 4 driver updates since then and it still doesn't work.

>>3797451
>I have a 9070XT
That's nothing. I used to have a 9800 Pro.

>>3797377 (OP)
I prefer Skyrim overall. I haven't played Oblivion remaster yet.

>>3797377 (OP)
The only people who prefer oblivion are the ones who played it as their first elder scrolls game. If you played any before it first then it was complete dogshit and if you played anything after it first then it was also complete dogshit

Skyrim is still better. The world of oblivion is too boring to explore

>>3797377 (OP)
Played original Oblivion as a first TES game. Didn't play remaster and don't intend to.

Liked it a lot back then, but in retrospect it doesn't have the gameplay polish and art direction on the level or Skyrim, nor the worldbuilding or interesting setting of Morrowind. It's the worst of both worlds.

However, as a modding enthusiast, I recognise it does have some value. While both Morrowind and Skyrim have larger and better modding scenes, Oblivion has some nice city/town/quest mods that make the world more lived in and comfy, and so just barely worth playing.

>>3797430
They still use the original game with a UE5 outer layer. They didn't remake it. It's just a very sophisticated remaster.

>>3797650
>Liked it a lot back then, but in retrospect it doesn't have the gameplay polish and art direction on the level or Skyrim, nor the worldbuilding or interesting setting of Morrowind
I still replay Oblivion along with the other ones. Others doing something better doesn't devalue Oblivion.

so it's not just me that oblivion remastered just isn't that fun?

>>3797663
It's a 20 year old generic fantasy RPG with a modern coat of paint. That may make it stand out among woke and grimdark RPGs of the last 20 years, but there's little special about it other than nostalgia and radiant AI memes.

>>3797754
>there's little special about it
Have you played any TES before Oblivion remaster?

>>3797759
I enjoy and play Daggerfall (Unity), Morrowind (MWSE), and Skyrim (SE).
I wouldn't bother with TES if it weren't for modding. Mods and TES lore make the series worthwhile for me.

>>3797761
And what year did you first play TES?

>>3797762
Oblivion was my first TES game, I played it around 2007.
T'was one of the first RPGs I played. Was quite enamored with it at the time.

>>3797763
After 18 years, you no longer think it's special or worth it without mods

>>3797765
Tbh, its worth a playtrough for sure.
RPG history wise it started some trends that were eagerly picked up by the mainstream afterwards.
Fast travel, quest markers, level-scaling, linear quest design with few choices. Many of these may not have been introduced by Oblivion, but its success made them go mainstream.
Other things, like radiant AI, are worth experiencing. Whether you thing it endearing or immersion breaking and ridiculous depends on you.
Some of its lauded questlines, like TG or DB, follow the same linear design, with very few exceptions.

Personally I feel similarly about Skyrim, but it did have a more appealing art-direction and much greater mod support.
Morrowind is the game that made TES lore special, and none of the other games recapture that. But as a game it has plenty of issues too.

>>3797377 (OP)
I don't know, after 20 threads per day for the last 10 years asking this very same question, I still think the answer is Morrowind.

I'm not sure though, I'll have to wait 30 minutes until OP posts this thread again. Maybe another decade of this spam will help us get to the bottom of this nefariously difficult question.

>>3797773
they haven't had a new tes game since 2011 and that's the only kind of rpg they like. they can't stop, won't stop, discussing the same shit over and over, because that mirrors the series itself. pity the bethtard.

>>3797631
I played oblivion first and I am now a morroboomer
morrowind > skyrim > oblivion

>>3797377 (OP)
>Do you personally prefer it over Skyrim?
Yes.
>Why?
Several reasons.
I think it has better quests, for one. Morrowind has a more-interesting MQ, but Oblivion has the best side-quests.
In terms of the MQ though, it's leagues above Skyrim when it comes to story, characters, and objectives.
Once the shine wore off a few months after release, I just saw Skyrim for what it was: A very formulaic, derivative load of filler.
Oblivion doesn't have as much unique weapons and armor as Morrowind, but it's still there. Skyrim can be summed up pretty well by the quest reward you get from the Jarl of Whiterun: a weapon with a random enchant. That's a Skyrim in a nutshell. Of course Todd would take this to the next level with Fallout 4, so if anything it just goes to show that you can always go lower.
And on top of all that, Skyrim managed to dumb down Oblivion which was at release decried for its dumb downs. Take away levitation, sure, but take away spellmaking in its entirety? Irredeemable.

>90% of posts aren’t even discussing the remake, just executing the default script about TES games
Grim.
Morrowind > Skyrim > Oblivion > TES Adventures: Redguard > Daggerfall

>>3797383
This

>>3797663
I still have a functioning GOTY disc of the original and the .exe files for all the minor DLCs, why would I pay full price for this shit?

>>3798717
>why would I pay full price for this shit?
No one is making you do that.

You have to buy it when it gets a discount.

>>3797377 (OP)
Morrowind > oblivion > skyrim

>>3797377 (OP)
Better than le viking fantasy

The NPC behaviors in town were more interesting I guess. Still having athletics and acrobatics also went a long way too since so much of the game is just walking around. I wouldn't say I strongly prefer spellcasting in Oblivion to Skyrim, but it was also more fun to work into fighting with weapons
The cons generally have me preferring Skyrim though. I hate leveled quest rewards with a passion. The HP/melee damage scaling is just all kinds of fucked up and results in you needing to click on things a lot more than a person should have to tolerate. Enchanting and alchemy is pretty pointless. The NPCs all also just look weird, but I don't know how much the remaster changes in that respect.
I suspect with the remaster the things I find off putting in Oblivion are a lot easier to mod out than the things I don't like in Skyrim, but I haven't gotten around to playing it yet either way
>>3797414
Cool armor and an NPC that left an impression I guess. The quest itself was kind of just going to a bunch of churches for the most part from what I remember

>>3797383
So you're telling me that skyblivion has still some possibilities to shine?

>>3800079
>The NPC behaviors in town were more interesting I guess
Most of the time it's the same caliber as Skyrim. Fairly basic at the end of the day, barring few exceptions. Skyrim actually added more reactions for NPCs.

Still, Oblivion is fun if you already know Skyrim inside and out.

The only people who actually claim to like oblivion more than skyrim are people who were too young to have played it when it came out and believe they are discovering a le hidden gem. It is worse aged than gothic
>t.born in 2000 and was my first rpg

>>3801023
I played Skyrim first. Oblivion has much better magic design, many quests and the NPC schedules are much better. I have way more hours in Skyrim but I could legit see someone preferring Oblivion.

>>3801190
>better magic design

>>3797663
Oblivion isn't a good game m8 it's only impressive if you were 12 years old in 2006 and it was your first RPG

>>3797405
You don't know what a "fetch quest" is at all. You're a fucking dipshit zoomer who regurgitates buzzwords with no idea what they mean. Or just another chatbot.

>>3797450
don't forget that the reward is S-tier gear and a bunch of DEUS VULT Templar followers.

>>3801507
nta but youve done nothing to explain why he's wrong, just use a bunch of regurgitated buzzwords like a chatbot. either have an intelligent discussion or not contribute at all.

>>3797377 (OP)
Its a much better game than Skyrim unironically. Oozes soul left and right.

>>3797377 (OP)
>hyper reduced skills
>no beards
>round playdough puddy faces that fail to capture racial features
>classes can only select 7 major skills and zero minor.
>hand to hand is just shittier melee combat as opposed to a non-lethal way to takeout enemies per Morrowind or a door buster for warriors per Daggerfall
>all the cool weapons from Morrowind (spears, throwing stars, crossbows, sabers, quarterstaves, halberds, ect) weren’t added
>no levitation spells
>less armor layering
>only two ring slots
>Cyrodil has extremely generic geography
>Can 100% every Faction quest on a single character and none of them measure your competency in associated skills
>no medium armor
>no shield type variety per Daggerfall
>horse riding is extremely clunky
It’s very clearly a step down from previous titles. Its’ only saving graces are:
>dialogue voicing and npc models + zoom is unintentionally comedic
>ragdoll effects
>Shivering Isles and Knights of the Nine are excellent expansions
>Hidden mechanics such as Goblin Wars
>Can actually buy and furnish houses unlike Morrowind
>Dark Brotherhood added unlike Morrowind
>skills have perks upon reaching subsequent tiers
>fast travel added back
>spells have more fluent animations
>towns have an extremely comfy european vibe and have beautiful architecture
Oblivion is by far the most mid TES game and the Remake fails to capture the unintentional comedy of the original, the texture overhaul making the NPC’s appear horrific and needlessly removing the gender differences between races. Its genericness and Imperial + Daedra centered plot oddly make it the most similar game to Arena.

>>3801507
>go grab this daedric artifact and bring it back
>go grab these shoes and bring it back
>go grab this book and bring it back
>go grab this amulet and bring it back

>>3797377 (OP)
I like it more but my primary reason is a autistic: Skyrim puts more words in your character's mouth.
Oblivion mostly offers you a topic, letting you imagine what the character says, with fairly generic commentary when it does put words in your mouth. Skyrim's writing, by contrast, generally feels like it's trying to give your character heroic dialogue, which I don't want. I want them to be a sort of everyman who just fell into doing this stuff.

>>3797377 (OP)
Honestly after playing the remake after all these years I can calmly and surely say that Oblivion is a piece of shit and definitely the worst between it, Morrowind and Skyrim

>>3797377 (OP)
they're both terrible, but yea i guess oblivion is marginally more terrible than skyrim
all tes games are literally for drooling retards with downs syndrome though (most rpgs in general are tbf)

>>3797377 (OP)
I've put in similar enough hours with both and I just had more fun running around in Skyrim

I can't believe they didn't fix the lvl scaling

This feels like low-effort slop

Anybody prefering most Oblivion quests to Skyrim's should get their heads checked.

>>3797377 (OP)
I prefer daggerfall and morrowind.

>>3797377 (OP)
Oblivion was literally designed and marketed as babby's first RPG. Microsoft got the last minute rights to Morrowind to introduce ecksbawks kiddies to RPGs, and then immediately pushed Bethesda to create the first RPG designed from the ground up exclusively for 12 year olds and normies, hence the disgusting UI. Plus, its design was explicitly informed by chasing a teenage boy trend that would end up half dead by the time of release (LOTR and subsequent knockoff fantasy movies). It sucks even if they make it (allegedly) look good.