Admit: You want a FF6 remake with a battle system like this

>>3799704 (OP)
>making every encounter devolve into braindead parryslop

Play Shadow Hearts and learn what a good combat system is.

>>3799722
damn, the person who made that gif sucks at the judgement ring

>>3799722

Expedition 33 combat system is clearly inspired by Shadow Hearts and Legend of Dragoon though... just be happy you got something along those lines in 2025.

>>3799704 (OP)

I really don´t.

>>3799722
>timed button presses bad
>except for this old game i mean
So tiresome..

>>3799826
Timing dodges is the most braindead thing possible and outright breaks the system.

>>3799838
You have absolutely no idea how the Shadow Hearts Judgement Ring system works.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0iqf4Eg23Bs

It offers vastly more player agency (compared to E33's, none), depth and nuance. You can customize ring shapes/types, hit areas, hit area sizes, crit zones, speed of the timer and more which directly translates to varying effectiveness and power. It's the gold standard for timed button combat in turn based games. E33 is the exact opposite.

>>3799704 (OP)
>You want a (insert game here) remake
No.

>>3799852
>game you like sucks
>here let me shill old game
As expected. I'm too familiar with the way autistic boomers operate on this board.

>>3799867
>respond seriously with a video explaining a system to a fanboy poster that is clearly ignorant of it
>provide reasoning and arguments to support it
Yet here you shitpost with a fallacy like a braindead fanboy incapable of forming even a single argument. As expected for E33 fanboys. can't even discuss the game they have a boner (read: shill) for.
But I accept your concession and all that yazz. No need to reply, you've already given up.

>>3799879
>>respond seriously with a video explaining a system
To someone who didn't ask lmao. Don't be so damn autistic

>>3799884
Keep stroking my ego while conceding I'm right. That's all E33 fanboys are good for after all. Feel free to fill up 50 posts iTT of stroking my ego, doesn't matter to me.

>>3799704 (OP)
>>3799867
>>3799884
holy newfag
spam more buzzwords and bark like a bitch

>>3799888
>>3799890
Stop seething, boys

>>3799852

Just because it took some pointers from SH it doesn´t mean E33 has to be Shadow hearts. Having it´s own distinct identity, strengths and weaknesses is good enough. True, attacks don´t have all the intricacies of the customization of the wheel but there is enough customization and strategy to the game regardless of that between weapons and how pictos work.

Furthermore i believe you are failing to consider context. SH came at a time when experimenting on JRPGs was far more common. Like SH is not like Vagrant Story or Valkyrie Profile or Parasite Eve or even Koudelka and Legend of Dragoon. Devs take far less risks these days so even if it is not exactly as you´d like or something revolutionary you should still appreciate the game. Specially considering we get a decently good JRPG every 5 years if we are lucky.

>>3799893
>newfag buzzword spam

>>3799895
Doesn't change the fact that no sane person that's a fan of FF6 would want a remake with E33's combat system over the original or anything else.
That kind of statement can only have been made by a diehard and clueless E33 fanboy, while most likely thinking E33 has an amazing combat system, which is the exact opposite of what it is.

>>3799704 (OP)
The final boss fight would need to be absolutely insane, I can hardly imagine it (trying now listening to Dancing Mad). It would need to be a religious experience.

>>3799826
>clearly inspired by
Garbage, get your own ideas you frog-fucking hacks

>>3799884
>someone who didn't ask
And now you know.

>>3799884
Dance for me zoomie

>>3799704 (OP)
no, because I'm a 33 year old turbo boomer who struggled to complete Clair Obscur on story mode and resent the fact that zoomzooms being ADHD ruined turn based combat

>>3799826
>Expedition 33 combat system is clearly inspired by Shadow Hearts and Legend of Dragoon though...
That's completely irrelevant when the parry system, not in either of those games you mentioned, invalidates almost everything else.

I’d prefer a XVII over a remake

>>3799962
>zoomzooms being ADHD ruined turn based combat
It started with ATB.

>>3799704 (OP)
I want an FF6 remake with BG3 systems.
That is PEAK turn based combat, not half-assed turn-based + half-assed action rpg

>>3800037
bot post

>>3800041
>opinion i don't agree with is a bot post

>>3800068
no, opinions i agree with are bot posts, because i'm the only intelligent person here.

>>3800037
>PEAK turn based combat, not half-assed turn-based + half-assed action rpg
You literally described BG3's combat. It's horrifically poorly designed and Larian suck atrocious amounts of ass when it comes to combat, encounter design and UI design (especially inventory systems)

>>3800037
>I want an FF6 remake with BG3 systems.
Yes. And all the sex having mechanics.

>>3800153
>Yes. And all the sex having mechanics.
I know you'd want to have sex with Gau while telling him to pretend he's a bear, you sick fuck.

>>3800155
>BG3 fan
>not into Relm first and foremost
Portraying bestiality is only the first step in the normalization of pedophilia.

>>3800133
I call BS on that one.
You cannot seriously say it's poorly designed compared to the braindeadness of turn based combat in most JRPGs

>>3800075
>there are people like this and yet some expect to think this board is different than /v/

>>3800257
>expect to think
keep trying, bot-kun

>>3800266
>resorting to non-arguments now

>>3800256
The combat system in BG3 is directly compared to games it ripped off, which it's strictly worse than.

>>3800283
It is still better than the mindlessness of Saga games, Junction shit from FF8, "muh job systems but actually just basic ATB combat" from FF5.
which some ppl here actually think is actually "good"

>>3800268
we aren't having an argument, bot-kyun.

>>3800288
Also don't care about WRPGfags thinking BG3 sucks - the bar for a complex turn based combat (yeah even if it is mostly just DnD dice rolls) is low in JRPGs

>>3800289
>>>/v/
You don't want to talk, just shitpost and act smug. Go away unless you have anything to contribute
>inb4 another smugposting

>>3800291
stop crying. why are you replying to me?

>>3799704 (OP)
why was there so much hype over this game? tried it, found it to be mediocre at best, and refunded it

>>3799704 (OP)
No, I just want a version of FFVI that has the GBA extras put into the SNES version. Wish somebody would make that rom hack.

>>3800295
>why was there so much hype over this game? tried it, found it to be mediocre at best, and refunded it
Normalfag and journalist hype because
>it's le french jrpg!
where they think basic standard stuff is somehow revolutionary and post basedpog images and tiktok vids of it. Also all you need to appeal to normalfags is flashy combat and good enough visuals.

>>3799967

Legend of Dragon had a parry system too. Heck, enemies could even attempt to interrupt your combo with a parry of their own but if you reacted quickly enough you could block that and keep the combo going. It was glorious. Actually i should play that game again...

>>3800256
He is trolling you, its easily among the top ones.
WRPG/CRPG combat usually is ass and not the good kind, its janky, shallow and a total mess.
Real-Time-With-Pause is one of the shittest systems and Divinity combat is good but is very flawed and Solasta has shit encounter design and bad game engine, Underrail is dogshit and Shadowrun is too braindead, Wasteland 3 is ok but also not impressive.

Actually a lot of JRPGs have much better combat than those older trashy Crpgs that people shill here.

Don't let idiots control the narrative you donkey

>>3800386
>He is trolling you, its easily among the top ones.
Anyone that thinks this is the reason why RPG combat is still trash.
Try playing any half decent tactical turn based game, for fucks sake. You fucking retards praise every single fucking grid based RPG slop like fucking toddlers. Fucking christ.

>>3800397
>Blah Blah Blah
Retard you lost all your credibility the moment you vomit that garbage post of yours, nothing you say matters anymore.

>>3800405
>no you see bg3 has the absolute best turn based combat system ever because uuuuuuh
riveting argument, fanboy

>>3800424
>riveting argument, fanboy

>>3800440
Based emoji posting newfriend

>>3800440
Yes we know BG3 fanboys only know how to shitpost. Praise BG3's combat to the heavens, don't elaborate on why it's so amazing at all, call anyone that disagrees a troll. You sure showed me, fanboy.

>>3800449
>Please please have a discussion with me.
Anon i already told you that you have zero credibility, why would i waste my time talking to you? you think the garbage you will post will change my mind or your that recommendation will interest me?

>>3800452
I don't want to discuss anything with a close-minded fanboy that has shown to be incapable of basic discussion. Just pointing out how much of a hypocritical close-minded shitposter you are and that you should fuck off to improve board quality. You contributed nothing to the thread.

>>3800455
You are begging for my attention, shit nerd.
You are mad your bait didn't work on me. Try harder next time.

>>3800299
https://www.romhacking.net/hacks/765/

>>3800457
>make post to incite flamewar where you make a bold statement
>don't elaborate
>call anyone that disagrees with or questions you troll and bait
>when pressed to elaborate, keep schizo shitposting calling everyone but you a troll
At the very least I hope for your sake your trolling was intentional and you're not delusional and didn't even realize how much of a hypocritical troll you are.

>>3800449
Too lazy to type, so I will use ayy eye but I think this is fairly straightforward.

Baldur's Gate 3 has a deeper and more complex combat system than Clair Obscur: Expedition 33. BG3's combat is rooted in the Dungeons & Dragons 5th edition ruleset, offering a wide array of character customization, strategic options, and tactical depth. Clair Obscur, while also turn-based, focuses more on reflex-based parrying mechanics and a more streamlined approach to combat, which some players find less engaging than BG3's complexity.

Baldur's Gate 3
Based on the D&D 5e ruleset, allowing for intricate character builds, spell combinations, and tactical positioning.
Depth and Customization:
Offers a vast array of classes, subclasses, and skills, allowing for diverse character builds and playstyles.
Strategic Depth:
Requires careful planning, utilizing terrain, and exploiting enemy weaknesses to succeed.
Exploration and Narrative:
Combines deep combat with exploration, NPC interactions, and a rich narrative, offering a more holistic RPG experience.

Clair Obscur: Expedition 33:
Turn-based with Real-time Elements:
Combines turn-based combat with real-time action sequences, such as parrying, making it more dynamic.
Focus on Reflexes:
Combat relies heavily on timing and parrying enemy attacks, which can be challenging for players unfamiliar with this style.
Less Strategic Depth:
While there are different enemy types and attacks, the combat can feel less varied and more reliant on mastering parrying techniques.
Streamlined Experience:
Offers a more focused experience, potentially appealing to players who prefer faster-paced combat and a more guided narrative.

Nitpick this please, BG3/ or any AI haters out there

>>3800875
>5th edition ruleset, offering a wide array of character customization, strategic options, and tactical depth
Stopped reading here

>>3800685
>Do thing i tell you to do
No
>Troll gets mad

lol, lmao even.

>>3799704 (OP)
>parry slop
God fuck no. Why is this game so fucking shilled