Now that the dust has settled, why was Metaphor such a disappointment to the RPG crowd?

>>3806514 (OP)
A bit too much on the nose with MUH REFUGEES, but also it's just fantasy SMT. Resentment over the hypothetical "game it should have been" as well.

It was pretty fucking good.

>>3806516
anon. /pol/shit is never actually the reason for anything unless it's insanely egregious, and that's not what this is. 99% percent of people don't care, you've just been exposed to that 1% substantially more than normal people. Metaphor isn't Dustborn. It isn't even The Last of Us.

It's not even really out yet


Everyone's just waiting for the Royal edition

>>3806514 (OP)
It was alright. I just expect more.

>>3806588
"Muh lesser races" was very much real but its funny how it got pushed to the way side the longer the games is going. like they were pandering to journalists for easy clicks.

>>3806514 (OP)
I didnt like the archetype system and while it did have its merits as a game it didnt grab my attention like mainline smt or the persona series.

>>3806514 (OP)
I liked it but they forgot to put in the guts of an RPG, which is the exploration - travelling the overworld, going inside every NPCs house and talking to them, experiencing a ton of different towns/cities, etc. They try to sell you on a 'journey' but there's no actual journey, everything is railroaded. You can tell that they wanted to do this at one point but I assume the game got devhelled and someone at Atlus cracked the whip. There's like a billion villages that are just menus and a ton of 'areas' that are just eyecatches of concept art. If [when] we do get a re-release I hope they're able to make something closer to the original vision.

Generic nip fantasy world
Combat is same old sona/smt
Companions and their social links are OKAY at best
Story is nothing to write home about Everyone looks ugly or unconventionally attractive

>>3806514 (OP)
Just didn't really do anything new or interesting. Aesthetically has nothing on Persona, writing is about what you'd expect from that team.
Still a solid fun game as you'd expect from Atlus but any journos ranking it among the top 10 JRPGs ever or whatever are huffing something.

It gets way too easy in the last stretch of the game. I can't think of another Atlus RPG where you can consistently kill bosses in a single turn.

the writing in theses games have gotten progressively worse since the Duology.
Metaphor might have the worst writing I've seen in a JRPG in a long while, and that's saying something.

>>3807955
Is there no NG+ or higher difficulty?

Reskinned Smt/persona mechanics and combat
Personally was expecting something fresh

>>3809073
there is a NG+ with a new super boss but you can easily kill it in one round with the right tools.

>>3809093
I wonder what caused the shift from picrel to what we got.

>>3809427
the long hair isabeau cut is objectively superior, basically.

>>3809486
>bad art is better, because, because? I like to defend a comercial failure?

>>3806514 (OP)
smts combat just doesn't work for me with a generic class system it needs the demons

>>3806514 (OP)
I was part of the crowd that didnt like it at the beginning while everyone else was SCREAMING how good the characters supposdely where, how good the story was, how good the graphics, the gameplay, the music, etc. And i was like "what videogame did you fucking play"

The characters were pretty fucking bad. Gallica itself has no purpose in the game. The protagonist is probably the worst protagonist in atlus history. Hulkenberg was one note and had ONE good scene. Sthroll was more of a protagonist. Junah and eupha were fine. The bat dont remember the name started cool and then you realize he had no good moments in the entire game. Louis as an antagonist was fine though.
The graphics? horrible. Good artstyle, terrible graphics. All the pretty places were just JPGs, the rest of the explorable places were ugly.
The music? good for the most part, but it lacked character themes to enhance each character social link. But nope, it got repetitive fast. Side dungeon theme.mp3. Sad moment.mp3. Happy moment.mp3. No identity to cutscenes.
Excessive dialogue all around, the characters just spoke way too much like they have omnisicient knowledge of the places you visit. Its not even one character thats a bookworm that knows stuff, ITS EVERYONE.
The gameplay was also mediocre. The combat is fine, but the job system was terrible. All the jobs were useless unless you grind them per character, and it is reliant on social links. It discourages experimentation and it was just a grindy as fuck game. Also, each character had a set path, so whats the point of the job system?
The social links still disconnected as fuck from the narrative, it fucking sucks. 20 years with the system and they still can properly add it to the narrative. FF7 rebirth JUST added social links and it works better than fucking metaphor, AN ATLUS GAME.
I could keep complaining about specific stuff, like how the makoto/prince reveal was good but it was jsut extreme lost potential, but that will be it.

>>3809427
They probably couldn't match this style well in 3d.
The game would need to be in 2d game like most Vanillaware games

>>3809427
Exactly

>>3806514 (OP)
Went woke, got broke.

>>3809427

>>3806514 (OP)
>dissapointment
It received universal praise and was a good game with some interesting ideas.

I found it overall to be extremely dull more than anything. Not a single character was interesting, companions and confidants all - the little bat fella stood out I guess. The main villain was interesting to start with, but he was quickly dulled down. I actually quit in the final dungeon which is something I've never done before. I think a lot of people put the game on a pedestal unduly because of whatever the americans are doing. The dungeons were boring hallways which I'm amazed haven't been torn to shreds, the themes and writing were juvenile to the point of parody (which certainly wasn't the intention) and I just have nothing but unpleasant memories with the game. It's a shame because I've typically enjoyed most atlus games but I don't think I can stomach the persona formula anymore.

>>3809559
>Conveniently does not mention Maria's amazing character arc

>>3809945
>The dungeons were boring hallways which I'm amazed haven't been torn to shreds

The sidequest dungeons are bog standard JRPG maps, which this entire board has zero problem while slamming some of the best designed JRPG dungeons like Persona 5 Royal.
No one on this board is qualified to talk about what's good dungeon design.

Can't help but wonder how many posts in this cope thread are all from the same person

I hated that fast travel was a thing when they advertised you be traveling the world and had to plan how you spent your time traveling. They did the same thing with persona 5 when filling palaces with save rooms when the original plan was for you to unlock secret routes and shortcuts.

>>3806514 (OP)
It wasn't. I had a lot of fun with it

Very ugly characters

>>3810576
>Very ugly characters
Shit taste

Kriswolfheart/mrfeel seems to enjoy it.

It's Fantasy Persona. It's actually worse than Persona in some ways. It feels like Atlus has learned fuck-all despite making the same game for like 30 years. Story and cast were boring and the game falls apart later on.

>>3810658
Its turn based. And thats all you need to make a good rpg these days.

>>3810580
but then she looks like this in game:
Graphical department fucked it up big time.

(you just know that game fails when you need to spend 5 minutes looking at the interwebs for a pic of main party member. Gustave e33 gives me everything in comparison)

>>3810668
What exactly is the problem here in your cherrypicked example?

>>3810668
>Gustave e33
Ahh, so that's why you're shitting on this game.

>>3810668
Dude, E33 has shit art direction and even worse character designs. If you looked up the word Generic in the dictionary, all you'd see would be a picture of the cast from E33.

>>3809559
Very obvious you didn't play it.

>>3810668
>(you just know that game fails when you need to spend 5 minutes looking at the interwebs for a pic of main party member
?

>>3806588
>/pol/shit is never actually the reason for anything unless it's insanely egregious,
So in other words polshit is never actually the reason unless it is the reason.
Learn to put together proper sentences you retarded inbred pajeetfaggot.