espeepeeocracy - /vst/ (#2035839) [Archived: 930 hours ago]

Anonymous
5/14/2025, 12:32:47 AM No.2035839
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>slaps your /gsg/ on the ass
what do /vst/?
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Anonymous
5/14/2025, 12:39:51 AM No.2035844
Havent seen one of those threads in a while, is it out?
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Anonymous
5/14/2025, 12:41:03 AM No.2035846
>>2035844
no and it wont be for 5 years
Anonymous
5/14/2025, 12:51:17 AM No.2035854
>>2035844
not quite yet, but we're probably getting it before GTA VI drops
Anonymous
5/14/2025, 12:56:41 AM No.2035857
>>2035839 (OP)
looks based. how do wars work tho?
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Anonymous
5/14/2025, 1:12:42 AM No.2035873
>>2035844
two more weeks
Anonymous
5/14/2025, 1:17:36 AM No.2035879
>>2035857
you don't control wars. you're the spymaster of your country.
however, dev said that you get to control the special forces of your country (Seal Team SIX, SAS, this kind of deal)

from what I understand though, war is meant to be something you 'win before it starts' kinda deal.
Anonymous
5/14/2025, 1:51:02 AM No.2035899
>>2035839 (OP)
Buy it? When is it coming out?
Anonymous
5/14/2025, 3:53:03 AM No.2035968
>>2035839 (OP)
>this still isn;t out yet

I've gotten to a point now where if a game doesn;t have an actual release date I don't even bother with it. It used to be "TBA" or "Coming Soon" meant you would likely see the game come out with in the year. Now it could mean tomorrow, next month, next year, 5 years from now. TBA/Coming Soon basically means never in my book.
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Anonymous
5/14/2025, 4:01:04 AM No.2035973
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>>2035839 (OP)
>googled "sppocracy"
>get pic related
Thanks.
https://archive.org/stream/nomenclatoromni00junigoog/nomenclatoromni00junigoog_djvu.txt
Pretty neat.
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Anonymous
5/14/2025, 4:04:37 AM No.2035975
>>2035973
hardly a coincidence. its a sing you have to read it, theres a message hidden for you
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Anonymous
5/14/2025, 4:06:02 AM No.2035977
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>>2035975
>a handbook for using Latin and Greek in scholarly work contains a hidden message
I guess I should really finish this PhD, huh.
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Anonymous
5/14/2025, 4:38:28 AM No.2035990
>/sp/ocracy
are there any athletes you can interact with as a glowie?
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Anonymous
5/14/2025, 5:53:18 AM No.2036033
>>2035968
>May 29, 2023
>We're pausing development while we work to secure funding for the game.
Here's your MEIOU devs.
Anonymous
5/14/2025, 5:56:47 AM No.2036035
>Crisis in the Kremlin: The Cold War
>Planned Release Date: 26 May, 2025
>This game plans to unlock in approximately 12 days
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Anonymous
5/14/2025, 5:54:20 PM No.2036438
>>2035844
It's an emotional scam, it will never come out
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Anonymous
5/14/2025, 11:40:17 PM No.2036828
>>2036438
how deep in are you emotionally at this point?
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Anonymous
5/15/2025, 3:22:47 PM No.2037324
>>2036035
Based commiedevs, can't wait to play it.
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Anonymous
5/15/2025, 3:27:27 PM No.2037329
>However, following the history, planned economies in the game are bound to fail sooner or later, ending in a crisis that forces the government to, at least, switch to mixed economy (and at most, contributing to the collapse of the country - for instance, dissolution of the USSR).
Oh, the dev is retarded
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Anonymous
5/15/2025, 5:27:14 PM No.2037436
>>2037329
He is right doe
infinite stagnation, needing to import food (despite the fact that Russian Empire was a food exporter), technological backwardness in civil industry causing shortages of everything are enough to create create constant sparks that would lead a collapse or a leader who will cause one
a planned economy can't pacify such multicultural blob, which is why commies are one the same side as corporations now
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Anonymous
5/15/2025, 5:32:36 PM No.2037443
>>2036828
I want to quit my job but I don't want to make my boss sad
Anonymous
5/15/2025, 6:27:29 PM No.2037476
>>2037436
But that isn't really an argument against planned economies in of itself and only against soviets and their planned economy.
Now of course I can't think of any existing planned economy, aside from maybe the norks, which gives the dev's decision credence.
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Anonymous
5/15/2025, 7:14:07 PM No.2037505
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>>2035977
>>2035973
>wrote a dictionary because educated men need to know greek and latin to fully understand what the fuck they're talking about and stop fucking things up in the shit they write
>church puts it in one of the first sets of banned books because it was funded by protestant royalty or divulged too many papal mysteries or someshit
>gets off the banned list and further investigation because "lmao im catholic you know" because he had a buddy who beat a case with the Inquisition and was up for bishop as a result
>didn't give a fuck about protestantism but hated the english for being english about it
>was William of Orange's doctor for a minute
>lived in the real Harlem, also had to dodge gunshots
Interesting character.
Anonymous
5/15/2025, 8:39:42 PM No.2037584
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>>2037436
You're very confused about how planned economies work and their issues.
>infinite stagnation
Not true, the USSR had constant growth over time, the slow down started after the Stalin era: the state focused on developing the consumer goods industry instead of the heavy industry which is the backbone of all planned economies (same reason why the great leap forward was a failure btw) and passed state capitalist reforms which further desynced the economy and aggravated the issues of corruption within the managerial bureaucracy, forgery of numbers and tolerated incompetence. Notice how these problems aren't inherent to the planned model but are caused by going against it. Instead of fixing the actual inherent issues they ignored them and seeked to slowly get rid of the model over the years.
>needing to import food
Went through a civil war, sabotage from kulaks who burned the fields and caused a famine and ww2 which further destroyed the fields due to scorched earth tactics. Also industralization and population growth drastically increased food demand.
>technological backwardness
True, innovation is something planned economies are bad at compared to free market economies but not an unfixable flaw.
>causing shortages of everything
Barring special situations (industralization, ww2) there wasn't a shortage of essential goods, except probably in small siberian villages. Breadline photos are from the perestroika/Yeltsin era. Pic rel, CIA report.
>>2037476
Nordic countries aren't planned economies.
An often overlooked example of a successful planned economy was Albania which managed to maintain a steady growth with no crises or shortages for almost 40 years until the 80s when it stagnated due to technological backwardness (all despite isolation and small size).
Other countries of the WP had to face a lot of difficulties, primarily paying reparations for ww2 and Khruschev turning them into neocolonies after his comecon reforms.
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Anonymous
5/15/2025, 8:46:10 PM No.2037588
>>2037584
>Nordic countries
With norks I meant best korea, not the scandis
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Anonymous
5/15/2025, 8:48:14 PM No.2037592
>>2037584
>sabotage from kulaks who burned the fields and caused a famine
Hoooly tankie.
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Anonymous
5/15/2025, 8:49:16 PM No.2037594
>>2037588
Ah, my bad. I don't know much about North Korea but from what I've read it's very dependant on China and has liberalized in the economy in the recent years.
>>2037592
Unapologetically. Stalin did nothing wrong and did not go far enough.
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Anonymous
5/15/2025, 8:51:09 PM No.2037596
>>2037594
At least you're honest and making it easier for me to know to ignore your posts. Thanks.
Anonymous
5/15/2025, 9:23:50 PM No.2037632
>>2037594
well I disagree but I don't care, be a tankie whatever, you'll grow out of it eventually
Anonymous
5/15/2025, 9:33:53 PM No.2037649
>>2037584
lets see what our ai overlord thinks
This argument contains a mixture of accurate points, misinterpretations, and overstatements. Let's go through each of the claims in turn to assess their accuracy.

1. "Infinite stagnation"
Claim: Not true — the USSR had constant growth until post-Stalin reforms disrupted the model.

Assessment: Partially correct, but oversimplified.

The USSR did indeed experience significant growth, especially during Stalin’s industrialization push (1928–1953), with high growth rates in heavy industry.

Post-Stalin, the growth continued but slowed progressively starting in the mid-1960s, especially under Brezhnev.

However, attributing the stagnation purely to deviation from central planning is dubious. The Soviet economy became less efficient over time due to inherent issues in centrally planned economies: lack of innovation, poor resource allocation, soft budget constraints, and distorted incentive structures.

The argument that “problems only came from going against planning” ignores these deep-rooted systemic flaws.

2. "Needing to import food"
Claim: The USSR had to import food due to external shocks (civil war, sabotage, WWII) and population growth.

Assessment: Partially true, but misleading.

It's correct that the USSR faced massive disruptions from the civil war and WWII.

However, even in peacetime, Soviet agriculture was notoriously inefficient. The centrally planned system failed to incentivize productivity in agriculture, which remained a weak point throughout the USSR's existence. Collectivization caused massive disruption, and grain imports became necessary even in the 1970s and 1980s — long after wartime damage.

Blaming external factors while downplaying structural issues is not historically accurate.
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Anonymous
5/15/2025, 9:35:03 PM No.2037652
>>2037649
3. "Technological backwardness"
Claim: True, but not an unfixable flaw.

Assessment: Fair point.

Planned economies typically lag in innovation due to lack of market competition and rigid bureaucracy.

The USSR achieved some remarkable technological feats (e.g. space race), but overall, it struggled to match the pace and diversity of innovation in market economies.

It's correct to say it's not inherently unfixable, but there’s little evidence that any purely planned economy has sustainably solved this problem.

4. "Causing shortages of everything"
Claim: Not true, shortages were situational, and essential goods were mostly available outside crisis periods.

Assessment: Largely inaccurate.

Chronic shortages were common features in planned economies, especially for consumer goods. Even in relatively stable periods, supply-demand mismatches were endemic due to poor planning, misreporting, and lack of incentives.

Breadlines were not exclusive to the perestroika era, though they worsened then.

The idea that only Siberian villages had shortages is false — cities also had limited consumer goods availability.

5. "Nordic countries aren't planned economies"
Claim: True.

Assessment: Correct.

Nordic countries follow capitalist market economies with large welfare states and social safety nets. They are not centrally planned economies.

6. "Albania as a successful planned economy"
Claim: Albania had steady growth and no crises/shortages until the 1980s.

Assessment: Very debatable.

Albania under Enver Hoxha had some growth early on, and like other socialist states, industrialized rapidly.

However, the country was highly repressive, isolated, and poor. Official statistics are unreliable. By the 1980s, the country faced serious stagnation, technological obsolescence, and hardship.

“No crises or shortages” is highly questionable, especially given Albania’s rationing system, lack of foreign trade, and eventual economic collapse in the early 1990s.
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Anonymous
5/15/2025, 9:37:37 PM No.2037659
>>2037652
7. Comecon and Khrushchev's "neocolonialism"
Claim: Khrushchev turned other Warsaw Pact countries into Soviet neocolonies via Comecon.

Assessment: Somewhat exaggerated, but has a basis.

Comecon (Council for Mutual Economic Assistance) did often skew benefits toward the USSR, and some Eastern Bloc states were subordinated to Soviet strategic and economic interests.

However, calling it outright “neocolonialism” might be more ideological than analytical. The relationships were complex and included mutual benefits and coordination, not just exploitation.


verdict: tankies btfo by sheer logic and facts
thank you very much kind ai ser
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Anonymous
5/15/2025, 9:42:56 PM No.2037665
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>>2037659
So that's the power of dialectical materialism.
Anonymous
5/15/2025, 9:53:39 PM No.2037676
>>2037584
>it was le kulak ninjas sabotaging the USSR
Come the fuck on. I am pretty sure he was talking about the late USSR too, so literally decades after WW2 and total kulak death.
Anonymous
5/15/2025, 10:03:16 PM No.2037685
>>2037594
>I don't know much about North Korea but from what I've read it's very dependant on China and has liberalized in the economy in the recent years
It never de-jure liberalized it's economy, they've actually been cracking down on the few avenues of private commerce they had in the very recent past due to Russia voting not to renew the sanctions and increased trade with Russia specifically.

What happened was after the collapse of the USSR and the famine around the same time a black market was set up because huge parts of the country were starving to death and the black market was the only efficient way to distribute what little food there was.
The state then had two choices, they could either keep these black markets illegal and have a huge underground system of goods flowing (which would have included USBs with kdramas and shit from China) or decriminalize them and have them monitored by soldiers, so they did the latter.

They largely used Covid to clamp down on them (by that point the famine had long been over and they wanted an excuse to get rid of them anyway) and their economy is actually genuinely improving now thanks to Russia ties so there's less and less need for them.

NK hasn't been as stable as it is now since the 80s.
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Anonymous
5/15/2025, 10:07:12 PM No.2037687
>>2037649
>>2037652
>>2037659
now ask deepblue or whatever the chink one is called
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Anonymous
5/15/2025, 10:10:24 PM No.2037688
>>2037685
>NK hasn't been as stable as it is now since the 80s.
But that's not because it's doing particularly good now, but because it absolutely shit itself between 90-10 right?
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Anonymous
5/15/2025, 10:15:22 PM No.2037695
can't wait to reform the italian colonial empire through collecting UN Mandates like infinity stones.
I'll convince everyone south of sudan that Italy is the true afrocentrist power
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Anonymous
5/15/2025, 10:17:54 PM No.2037698
>>2037687
that's just as bluepilled since they've pretty much stole everything
Anonymous
5/15/2025, 10:20:46 PM No.2037704
>>2037688
It was sanctioned by the entire world after the USSR fell, combined with the famine, frankly it's a surprise it wasn't overthrown by the military at that time, and it probably would have been if not for Songun.

Now? Russia's gone full axis of evil and vetoed the continuation of monitoring of North Korea sanctions.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmENCTEB0q8
What's funny is all the sanctions are still in place but the body in charge of making sure they stayed in place is gone.
So remember, if you see countries illegally trading with North Korea, no you didn't.
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Anonymous
5/15/2025, 10:21:09 PM No.2037706
>>2037649
>lack of innovation
Addressed in my post
>poor resource allocation
Not inherent, wouldn't happen with competent management
>soft budget constraints and distorted incentive structures
Fair, though SBC has a bigger impact on "reformed" planned econs aka state capitalism.
>even in peacetime, Soviet agriculture was notoriously inefficient etc.
Ironically this is where the AI oversimplificates. It's true that collectivized farms had lower yields than private farms but they still managed to produce enough to keep the population fed and end the cycle of famines that plagued Russia since the tsarist era, the last happening in 1932. It also igores Khruschev's failed corn frenzy, the unsustainable virgin lands campaign and the severe drought of 1963 which I forgot to mention.
>poor planning, misreporting, and lack of incentives
Not inherent flaws.
>Breadlines were not exclusive to the perestroika era, though they worsened then.
Breadlines existed primarily in rural areas because villages didn't have bakeries and people would buy food in the city and sell them in the villages.
>cities also had limited consumer goods availability
But not breadlines. And limited availabily does not imply lack of.
>However, the country was highly repressive, isolated, and poor.
Not related to the economic model.
>By the 1980s, the country faced serious stagnation, technological obsolescence, and hardship
Addressed
>Given Albania’s rationing system, lack of foreign trade, and eventual economic collapse in the early 1990s
Rationing was necessary in order to efficiently allocate resources that were already limited due to it being a tiny country. Albania did trade with several nations (China, Yugo and the WP), less so in the latter years. The economic collapse happened after the capitalist "shock therapy".
>calling it outright “neocolonialism” might be more ideological than analytical.
He made those countries dependant on the SU and forced them to export resources to it. Neocolonialism.
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Anonymous
5/15/2025, 10:39:33 PM No.2037737
>>2037706
Also, on the topic of grain imports, Parenti explains it way better than I could:
>The press has made U.S. grain exports to the Soviet Union the most highly publicized international sales agreement in human history. Western Europe annually imports far more grain than does the USSR, yet no one in the U.S. media or government accuses West Germany or Benilux countries of being unable to feed their people. In contrast, every Soviet grain deal with the United States is front page news, a reminder to the American public of the allegedly superior productivity of U.S. agribusiness and the failure of collectivism. The truth is something else.

>Today (1986) the Soviets produce more than enough grain to feed their people. They import foreign grain to help feed their livestock and thereby increase their meat and dairy consumption. (This is seen in both the East and West as an "improved" diet, even though there is evidence suggesting that a high meat and dairy intake is not necessarily the best diet.) It takes between seven and fourteen pounds of grain to produce one pound of meat. And that is the cause of the Soviet "grain shortage." In actuality, per capita meat consumption in the USSR has doubled in the last two decades and exceeds such countries as Norway, Italy, Greece, Spain, Japan, and Israel. Milk production has jumped almost 60 percent in twenty years so that today the USSR is by far the largest milk-producing country in the world.

>According to the 1982 CIA report on the Soviet economy "The Soviet Union remains basically self-sufficient with respect to food." These are the accomplishments of an agrarian labor force that decreased from 42 percent in 1960 to 20 percent in 1980, working in a country where over 90 percent of the land is either too arid or too frigid to be farmed. Still, the press continues to tell the American public that the Soviet system cannot feed its people.
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Anonymous
5/15/2025, 10:52:30 PM No.2037751
Tankie boy can't accept defeat okay let me finish training and I'll paste his impotent wall of text into chatpgt
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Anonymous
5/15/2025, 11:47:08 PM No.2037814
>>2037751
you realize that someone could do the same thing feeding whatever chudguments you might have that aren't 100% in line with neoliberal consensus into chatgpt
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Anonymous
5/15/2025, 11:50:37 PM No.2037818
>>2037737
>yet no one in the U.S. media or government accuses West Germany or Benilux countries of being unable to feed their people
thank god they finally are
Anonymous
5/15/2025, 11:56:04 PM No.2037828
>>2037814
let them try, tankie boy. at the end of the day these are merely belief traps
and im here to help radical right wing and lefty chuds outgrowing their belief traps that dramatically limit their potential
growth
Anonymous
5/16/2025, 12:18:01 AM No.2037843
>>2037695
first thing i wanna do is check if Hitler exists and put him in power in Argentina or a Germany
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Anonymous
5/16/2025, 1:13:48 AM No.2037872
>>2037843
I wonder if it will be able to reactiveate/mobilize the SS paramilitary army in germany.
Anonymous
5/16/2025, 12:53:51 PM No.2038310
>>2037695
>>2037843
Too bad the game is never coming out
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Anonymous
5/16/2025, 3:40:17 PM No.2038443
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>>2038310
There are RPGs to scratch the spy itch while we wait for espiocracy.
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Anonymous
5/16/2025, 4:25:44 PM No.2038475
>>2037687
you'll expext that deepseek would side with the soviet but its somehow more zogged than chatgpt:

The analysis of planned economies, particularly the USSR and Albania, involves nuanced historical and economic contexts. Here's a structured evaluation of the key points raised:

1. USSR's Growth and Slowdown
Growth Under Stalin: The USSR experienced rapid industrialization and growth pre-WWII, driven by centralized heavy industry. However, this came at immense human cost (e.g., forced collectivization, gulags).

Post-Stalin Slowdown: The shift toward consumer goods under Khrushchev is debated. While underinvestment in heavy industry may have contributed, systemic inefficiencies (e.g., bureaucratic mismanagement, lack of price signals) were core issues. Corruption and data falsification were endemic, suggesting structural flaws in central planning’s accountability mechanisms.

State Capitalism Reforms: Reforms like Kosygin’s 1965 attempts to introduce market elements faced resistance, highlighting the rigidity of planned systems. The claim that deviations caused collapse overlooks whether strict adherence was feasible in a complex economy.

2. Food Shortages and Imports
External Factors: Wars (Civil War, WWII), kulak resistance, and scorched-earth tactics did disrupt agriculture. However, policy failures (e.g., collectivization, mismanaged grain procurement) exacerbated famines like the Holodomor (1932–33), which scholars argue was partly man-made.

Industrialization Trade-offs: Prioritizing heavy industry diverted resources from agriculture, necessitating food imports despite the USSR’s fertile land. Population growth and urbanization intensified demand, but productivity lagged due to collective farming inefficiencies.
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Anonymous
5/16/2025, 4:26:45 PM No.2038476
>>2038475
3. Technological Backwardness
Innovation Challenges: Planned economies excelled in targeted sectors (e.g., space, military tech) but struggled with consumer innovation. Centralized R&D lacked market feedback, leading to inefficiencies. While reforms could theoretically address this, historical examples (e.g., China’s hybrid model) show integration with market mechanisms was key.

4. Shortages and CIA Reports
Contextual Shortages: Essential goods shortages were less common in stable periods but recurred during crises (e.g., 1970s stagnation, Perestroika). The CIA’s 1983 report noted improved living standards post-Stalin but highlighted chronic quality and variety issues, not just late-Soviet collapse.

5. Albania’s Case
Isolationist Growth: Albania’s initial growth (1945–1975) stemmed from agrarian reform and industrialization from a low base. However, its autarkic policies under Enver Hoxha led to stagnation by the 1980s. The lack of trade and technological exchange (due to ideological splits with USSR and China) crippled long-term sustainability, underscoring the limits of isolation in a globalized world.
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Anonymous
5/16/2025, 4:27:46 PM No.2038478
>>2038476
6. Nordic vs. Planned Economies
Nordic countries are mixed economies with robust welfare states, not planned economies. They combine market dynamism with social safety nets, demonstrating that equity and efficiency can coexist without central planning.

7. Structural Critiques
Human Factor: Corruption and incompetence in planned systems are often systemic, as centralization concentrates power without accountability. Market economies, while imperfect, decentralize decision-making and incentivize efficiency through competition.

Rigidity vs. Adaptability: The argument that deviations caused failure implies planned economies are fragile. Successful systems require adaptability, which central planning historically struggled with due to informational and motivational constraints.

Conclusion
While external shocks and policy errors impacted socialist states, the inherent challenges of central planning—resource misallocation, innovation lag, and bureaucratic inefficiency—played decisive roles. Albania’s isolated "success" was unsustainable, and the USSR’s initial growth masked long-term weaknesses. Hybrid models (e.g., China’s post-1978 reforms) suggest integrating market mechanisms with state guidance may offer a more viable path than rigid planning. The debate remains complex, but historical evidence leans toward the superiority of mixed economies in balancing growth, innovation, and equity.
Anonymous
5/16/2025, 5:15:00 PM No.2038515
>>2037649
>>2038475
>llm
Why would you go trough the effort of posting the results?
Not like it is worthwhile or able to give valuable insights into those "ai" systems
Anonymous
5/16/2025, 6:09:55 PM No.2038546
So, if you want to play as a medium sized county you have to be one of the superpowers bitch and rely on the A.I.?
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Anonymous
5/16/2025, 9:25:21 PM No.2038736
>>2036828
Don't know about him, but if this turns out to be a scam, then I will never emotionally recover.
Anonymous
5/16/2025, 9:57:03 PM No.2038809
>>2038546
misdirection is the name of the game. you can probably do like Superpower 3 and plot a covert operation that's a false flag to distract from your own doing.

Who cares about the argentines seizing a couple of sheep Islands when the IRA's got the bomb?
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Anonymous
5/16/2025, 11:08:45 PM No.2038962
>>2038443
too bad i don't have any friends nor money to play these
Anonymous
5/16/2025, 11:16:41 PM No.2038974
>>2038809
So basically an Isreal simulator?
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Anonymous
5/17/2025, 8:37:45 AM No.2039374
>>2038974
Would be only if you activate a cheat to get unlimited budget from the US on a monthly basis
Anonymous
5/17/2025, 9:35:18 AM No.2039395
>>2037704
Good.
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Anonymous
5/17/2025, 8:06:38 PM No.2039752
>>2039395
Good they starved to death or good Russia's stopped sanctions on them?
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Anonymous
5/17/2025, 8:42:38 PM No.2039794
>>2039752
Both. That kills the current poz order.
Anonymous
5/17/2025, 10:24:14 PM No.2039892
>>2035839 (OP)
i forgot this game even "existed"
Anonymous
5/18/2025, 9:31:59 AM No.2040365
>>2037324
>Dear Friends.

>Due to the fact that May was a very busy month and thanks to your support and willingness to wait, we have decided to set the last and final release date for the 20th of June. In honour of this, we will also be adding more content and achievements to reward you for waiting.

>We apologise. Please wait a little longer.
ANG
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Anonymous
5/18/2025, 10:46:48 AM No.2040395
>>2040365
>20th of June
They didn't say the year however, the emotional scam goes on and on
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Anonymous
5/18/2025, 10:52:07 AM No.2040399
>>2040395
No, it's this year, this is not the Espiocracy.
Anonymous
5/18/2025, 7:28:43 PM No.2040724
>>2036828
unironically too deep
if scamdev doesn't deliver I'm going to commit a terrorist act against Poland (in Minecraft)
Anonymous
5/18/2025, 10:25:13 PM No.2040841
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>>2035839 (OP)
Was there ever any gameplay shown, or is it still just all still images? I can't be bothered to go and check myself.
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Anonymous
5/19/2025, 11:01:07 AM No.2041319
Scam alert! Scam alert!
Anonymous
5/19/2025, 3:53:34 PM No.2041537
>>2040841
Still images, but there's a video where a mouse pointer pulls up a tooltip now.
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Anonymous
5/19/2025, 4:04:35 PM No.2041548
>>2041537
>>2040841
And a video displaying an audiobug when clicking on buttons.
Anonymous
5/20/2025, 11:32:17 AM No.2042434
>>2035839 (OP)
Hope this comes out one day.
I've always wanted a Cold War Grand Strategy game, but figured it would be hard to make interesting since you can't do much map painting and I'm not sure if just making your economy numbers or something go up would be engaging enough. So far the TNO mod for HoI4 was the closest I got.
This could actually work though.
Anonymous
5/20/2025, 11:35:49 AM No.2042440
>>2035968
Yeah, I always assume one order of magnitude error at least. If it says it comes out in a specific month, I assume it will come out in that quarter, if it specifies a quarter, it will be sometimes that year. If it specifies a year, it might aswell be "coming soon"
Anonymous
5/20/2025, 11:36:59 AM No.2042444
>>2035990
I'm assuming you'll want to prevent the 1972 Summer Olympics terror attack if you're playing West Germany
Anonymous
5/20/2025, 11:40:29 AM No.2042446
>>2037436
>commies are one the same side as corporations
excuse me, what?
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Anonymous
5/20/2025, 11:45:04 AM No.2042450
>>2038546
I mean kinda like it is in in real life, no? You either are the hegemon or have a hegemon. I'm sure there's still plenty of shit to do in terms of acting against your local rivals, stealing tech, defending against whoever wants to mess with you, etc
Anonymous
5/20/2025, 12:05:11 PM No.2042466
>>2042446
>Nigga living under a rock has missed the whole 21st century
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Anonymous
5/20/2025, 12:17:19 PM No.2042472
>>2042466
I'm just trying to untangle what that sentence was supposed to mean.
Is it talking about how former commies like Russia have moved to hyper-neoliberalism? Is it about countries like the PRC who under the guise of being communist are quite capitalistic. Is it about how some people will call anything left of their position commie and then throw a fit when companies pay lip-service to some left wing ideas and identity politics to generate sales?
I can't imagine a commie being on the same side as a corporation and I'd have to see some pretty compelling evidence to be convinced otherwise.
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Anonymous
5/23/2025, 2:24:46 PM No.2045934
This entire "game" and its supposed "dev diaries" are all just AI slop. The long winded verbose dev diaries, the janky ai generated "screenshots" the short gifs kf "ui" it all just points to this being AI... hell, he doesnt even use public domain images for real rulers, its all AI.

Pure slop, absolute scam
Replies: >>2045949 >>2046662
Anonymous
5/23/2025, 2:58:56 PM No.2045949
>>2045934
ChatGPT or whatever would have good english. The dev diaries are full of ESLisms because the dev is a Pole. It isn't AI, regrettably
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Anonymous
5/23/2025, 6:43:41 PM No.2046114
say my name when you pray
to the SKIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Replies: >>2046115
Anonymous
5/23/2025, 6:45:42 PM No.2046115
>>2046114
i'd post a basedjak but i don't have any on my pc and i'm too lazy to find one
power metal is cringe and sabaton is triple cringe
Replies: >>2046577
Anonymous
5/24/2025, 2:11:39 AM No.2046577
>>2046115
>power metal is cringe
kys
>and sabaton is triple cringe
nvm
Anonymous
5/24/2025, 4:11:23 AM No.2046662
>>2045934
but i have read those dev diaries way before ai tho
Replies: >>2046941
Anonymous
5/24/2025, 7:47:22 AM No.2046810
>>2042472
It's progressives taking the position of commies after non-cultural marxism being invalidated for good. Simple as.
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Anonymous
5/24/2025, 11:31:01 AM No.2046889
>>2046810
Okay, but that still doesn't change the fact that corporation and commies are as diametrically opposed as can be
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Anonymous
5/24/2025, 1:13:24 PM No.2046941
>>2045949
He just passes it through with instructions to ESL it up or uses jank jeetware models
>>2046662
Yeah and as AI has gotten better, the "dev" diaries have gotten better... cohencidence?
>>2046889
They both love the same shit (trannies, women, mass migration/open borders, deracination) but for different reasons. The modern trotskyites who dominate the radical left are definitely controlled by capital.
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Anonymous
5/24/2025, 1:25:12 PM No.2046953
>>2046941
>trannies, women, mass migration/open borders, deracination
lmao, you have to be an idiot if you believe big corporation actually care about social issues. As I said, they just pay lip service to it when they feel like it could drive up profits or better their image.
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Anonymous
5/24/2025, 1:29:05 PM No.2046958
>>2046953
They dont care about them as social issues retard. Trannies are great consumers, female empowerment and mass migration cheapen labour and expand the consumer base.

>>2035839 (OP)
>polack dev releases a "video" of him "playing" espiocracy where you can clearly see the pasted gif flicker on the screen as it is superimposed by AI. It is also washed out and you can barely make anything out on it.
Replies: >>2047449
Anonymous
5/24/2025, 10:39:36 PM No.2047443
>>2046941
the schizo intuition based debunker
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Anonymous
5/24/2025, 10:42:14 PM No.2047449
>>2046958
So make a game using AI then yourself you lazy nigger. It's the future
Replies: >>2048942
Anonymous
5/25/2025, 11:56:19 AM No.2047968
>game is called aspiocracy
>thread is full is aspies arguing about incel history and ideologies
Anonymous
5/25/2025, 3:04:58 PM No.2048097
>>2046941
I don't think Karl Marx was supportive of immigration, precisely on the basis of it reducing the value of labour, and causing sectarian tensions (which further divides the working class).
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Anonymous
5/25/2025, 6:29:20 PM No.2048284
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>>2037592
Replies: >>2048369 >>2048460 >>2049122
Anonymous
5/25/2025, 7:37:40 PM No.2048369
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>>2048284
>using a book predating the opening of the soviet archives by gorbachev
holy tankie
Anonymous
5/25/2025, 8:41:37 PM No.2048460
>>2048284
People actually believe this shit?
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Anonymous
5/25/2025, 9:52:06 PM No.2048558
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>>2048460
Anonymous
5/26/2025, 5:46:48 AM No.2048940
>>2048097
Are you being deliberately obtuse or are you just retarded?
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Anonymous
5/26/2025, 5:51:26 AM No.2048942
>>2047449
AI cant make games, it cant even tell you how many Rs are in strawberry. People think AI can code because the pajeets our benefactors import to keep our wages down are just that much worse.
>>2047443
They make me take the pills so i will stop seeing their plots. Thats why im on the run, i jack into peoples wifi by parking outfront their houses in my unregistered van. They will not stop me, just need to work out how to get across the channel and i can drive to the polack conspiracy HQ and bring it down.
Replies: >>2054605
Anonymous
5/26/2025, 10:45:13 AM No.2049122
>>2048284
I can appreciate some amount of historical revisionism when it comes to the eastern bloc because of the total dominance Yankee propaganda... but really... you come across poorly in this thread. You don't need to blindly defend the USSR or it's ideology. it's gone. and the ideology it promoted was simply to justify the actions of its ruling elite, as all ideologies are used.
Anonymous
5/27/2025, 6:20:56 PM No.2050716
>>2035839 (OP)
>slaps your /gsg/
I don't have any gsg, so I guess it was someone's else
Anonymous
5/27/2025, 10:31:05 PM No.2050964
>>2035839 (OP)
Haven't keep up with this for like a year, what's the progress looking like? Good news? Bad news?
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Anonymous
5/28/2025, 12:29:01 AM No.2051094
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>>2050964
He's experimenting on whether or not there'll be a 'player character' or not. From my understanding, it's a CK2-like thing where you'll play that character till you get blackbagged/retire
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Anonymous
5/28/2025, 10:41:52 AM No.2051446
>>2050964
The progress is thst AI has gotten better at "writing" the "dev diaries." I wonder when the EU bureaucrats will actually wonder where their grant money is going? Thank God we got out.
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Anonymous
5/30/2025, 8:34:02 AM No.2053499
if it makes commies seethe this hard it must be good
Anonymous
5/30/2025, 10:42:37 AM No.2053593
>>2048940
I understand what you were getting at just pointing out that those people identify with a man who'd feel nothing but disgust for them
Anonymous
5/30/2025, 10:45:02 AM No.2053595
>>2051094
I like the character lore buffs/debuffs
Anonymous
5/30/2025, 10:46:03 AM No.2053597
>>2051446
Is the project actually being partially funded through EU grants?
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Anonymous
5/30/2025, 10:55:00 AM No.2053607
>>2053597
Yes, its funded through EU grants and the czech government. As soon as he got his funding he then got hooded hoax money and has just needed to turn out "progress updates" which are all generated by AI.

The dev went on holiday to Ibiza and pissed away a bunch of his grant money too
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Anonymous
5/31/2025, 5:23:27 AM No.2054605
>>2048942
I legit tried to astral project myself into my ex’s house to spy on her wanted to see if some dude was visiting her or not, and one time I actually pulled it off. But the moment I left my body, (still in shock and excitement like “oh shit, this really works”) I ran into this dark purplish figure just outside my house. It just stared at me and, like, telepathically asked, what the hell are you doing here? and bang, instantly, I got yanked back into my body like a slingshot.
Anonymous
5/31/2025, 5:37:06 AM No.2054613
>>2053607
>>2051446
Do you just get a kick out of going on 4chins to post bullshit, or are you an actual imbecile?
Anonymous
6/6/2025, 2:26:49 AM No.2060102
>>2035839 (OP)
never happening
Anonymous
6/6/2025, 2:05:02 PM No.2060375
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If you're a communist in this thread, you should realise this is not a communism game. At game start there is just a massive oligarchy of 'planners' of capitalist enterprises, who really held state power and owned the means of production: see pic related. Essentially, the eastern bloc was one huge corporation for the entirety of the cold war.
And this was called 'Realsozialismus', (including by my family in East Germany, who were some well-placed heads of agitprop groups). If this reality was meant to be the scientific socialism described in Marxist, ironically now also called 'real' socialism by young activists desperate to distinguish it from this historical 'real-socialism' or 'actually existing socialism' which everyone mostly associates with bread lines and mass graves.
Given that in this game you play as the ruthless and pragmatic agents of state power, intelligence, and surveillance, I see no reason why the player would be motivated to pursue 'real' socialism. That would be rather antithetical to the maintenance of an intelligence community shadow government. And it is completely historical that the state-led capitalist economy of the USSR would be eclipsed and defeated in competition with the unbound and advanced US economy. That's just how capitalism works.
>tldr
Stop getting assmad at videogames because you've been indoctrinated by the propaganda lines of a regime that's been non-existent for three decades. It's embarassing, and it does your cause no favours.