DO YOU HEAR THE VOICES TOO??? kind of underwhelming, the Unification mod already did almost everything the remaster claims to do. I guess we get an improved vanilla experience though

>>2045223 (OP)
64 bit support will improve modding immensely and also unification is absolute dogshit, please kys.

BATTLE BROTHERS
SPESS MEHREENS

Unification like all the bloat mods is pure garbage and buggy to boot.
64 bit may actually give rise to actually decent mods.

the models look better but the effects look worse

>Unification shill
Really? I guess people still enjoy bloatware but at least we'll have better modding support going forward.

>>2045290
As a borderline Amish Luddite when it comes to technology, how does a change to a 64 bit environment compared to a 32 bit environment benefit modding?

>>2045324
32 is like an old mule, 64 is like a draft horse

>>2045324
The amount of ram a program can access.
32 bit programs couldn't even go into the double digits of GB's of ram. 4 GB was indeed kind of the hard limit.

By comparison, the sky is basically the limit when it comes to how much ram 64 bit can use. We're talking exabytes, which no consumer pc will ever reach that high in the foreseeable future.

>>2045341
I wasn't asking for nonsensical comparisons.
>>2045366
Thank you.

>>2045223 (OP)
i hope to God that you can play all the expansions separately in skirmish. i do not want to play soulstorm.
otherwise, it looks great. hopefully it's not $70 lmao

>>2045246
fippy bippy

>>2045378
>all the expansions separately in skirmish
what

>>2045404
Some things were added in Soulstorm that are half-assed, like air units.

>>2045378
Hopefully it is 70usd

Relic needs the money

>>2045223 (OP)
>kind of underwhelming
Agreed. Maybe I'm just a boomer, but the new models and textures looked only a bit better to be honest.
Fewer crashes and 64-bit executable sound cool, I guess. But I've got to say I'm not especially whelmed by the trailer.

>>2045378
oh, there is that.

>>2045246
This. 64 bit is the only thing they really needed to do and all anyone who is actually a fan of this wants. They could have left the graphics alone entirely and I would still pay full price for this.

>DoW DE
Fuck yes. I've waiting for this for 20 years.

>Unification
Fuck no. I like the mod for what it wants to do, but how it does it is atrocious. The OCs, cameos and historical inaccuracies are horrible.

>>2045419
I guess they could have done something about the environment textures, they may yet, who knows. If they were showing release state, I doubt they would be putting it on hold at all for release. Going by the updated intro video, they're 100% using AI assistance and there's still only so much that can do.

Was hoping they'd bring the SS campaign up to par, but oh well.

>>2045510
>historical inaccuracies
The what?

>>2045521
It seems to just be a simple remaster, not a deeper remake of the game. The recommended specs are still packing dx9 for example.

>>2045521
>>2045523
Hopefully this release gets some new blood in to mod out all the dogshit additions of Soulstorm and replace them with actual fun gameplay

>>2045535
Oh god, skirmish might have rolled in the fucking air units of soulstorm too, fuck.

>>2045540
Pray that they let you select the game version for skirmish

>>2045541
I'd pull a fucking dogeza if I thought it would help

>models are only slightly upgraded graphics wise
I kinda expected something like Space Marine 2 level of unit detail.

>>2045521
>The what?
The whole Tekarn subfaction of Renegade Guard, Vraks being a communist revolution instead of a holy war, Farsight using Gue'vesa, Emperor's Children having Primaris, etc.
This is Unification, not vanilla.

>>2045623
>Space Marine 2 level of unit detail
You don't do that for RTS if you want to render a lot of units on screen, just because the camera is further away doesn't mean your computer skips on rendering.

>>2045246
>>2045290
>>2045309
>more factions and units, HD models bad because... it just is, okay???
>>2045623
>being this autistic about 40k lore
the mod is fine

>>2045223 (OP)
Unless they've improved the pathfinding, I'm not sure I can go back to it. Tried to replay the main campaign a month or 2 ago, and it's so rough. I forgot how badly units get caught on each other and terrain. Not really an issue if you play MP though, because you're usually engaging with smaller squads constantly rather than the big gathered armies in the campaign.

>>2045733
>le bloat is..LE GOOD

There is an atom of hope that lelic will do something about DoW3 if this sells well.

>>2045776
Pretending DoW3 didn't happen will only cause the same mistake. Just call it DoW4. Although I don't think Relic is in a position to do DoW4 any more. I don't think they ever will be.

>>2045786
I think DoW3 is fine mechanically, just having 3 races is fucking piss. It's a better RTS than the moba-tier DoW2 that doesn't let you have more than like 8 units.

>>2045792
I want to argue with you, but I never bothered trying DoW3. It looked much more MOBA-inspired than 2 with its ridiculous hero characters, lanes, ancient and colour palette. I think the main thing that bothered me was the cover system though. I hated the magic shield thing when the first and 2nd had craters and walls and boxes and actual reasonable cover choices on a battlefield. The magic shields just felt lazy and kind of poisoned my whole image of the game.

>>2045776
why would they double dip on a financial catastrophe and remaster a game everyone hated?

>like sob and de
>hate air units
suffering.

>>2045811
would be based if they gave the option to disable air units in the DE
dunno how much it would impact balance, probably not at all since only IG's bombers are even remotely useful, and only barely and situationally

>>2045792
>I think DoW3 is fine mechanically
with that damage system?
a bunch of dow1 modders were lightyears ahead almost twenty years ago

>>2045870
What's wrong with the damage system?

>>2045776
My, my, aren't you the optimistic one.

>>2045874
it's blizzard tier trash, together with animations and every other mechanic

>Trannyfication vs UltimateTrannycalypse in this very thread

always fun to watch these two get at each other throats

>>2045919
I disagree. I don't recall any problems with the damage system, if anything the low TTK is very good, I hate CoH-style piss fights where squads exchange fire for 3 hours before just going back to reinforce. It actually punishes you for being shit.

>>2045921
They're barely doing anything, what are you talking about?

>>2045921
>low TTK
>dow3
come on
>>2045921
real patricians play pok anyway

>>2045733
You call that "HD models"?

>>2045976
Compared to what they were before? Yeah.

>>2045223 (OP)
>>2045419
Given the scale size of the models and the camera distance you cannot really do much with higher res textures. Only with the camera giving you those neat battlefield shots as you coom in and move the camera around would drastically improve as the textures remain crisp instead of looking like bad oily paint.

Furthermore, whoever did this remaster decided to make everything brown.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFFinkjq4dY

>>2046023
>decided to make everything brown.
It's accurate to the era that Dawn of War was made in

>>2045223 (OP)
Does this fix the constant desyncs that game with the shift to Steam?

>>2046052
It was also made fun of all the time because everything looked like literal shit and was one of the bigger reasons for the demand to have more colorful and stylized graphics.

>>2046023
The palette was always majority brown, the non-brown in the textures have just been desaturated.

>>2046072
We can only hope. I'd be down for some multiplayer with people other than my few autistic retard friends

>>2045979
But compared to how they could (or, indeed, should; it's 2025) be? No.
I'm not saying Space Marine 2 detail like an anon above suggested, but at the very least better than DoW2

>>2046523
Bad idea. The more detailed the models get, the less readable units are at a glance, high fidelity is bad for RTS, so while they could give the units higher detail and still maintain performance, doing so fucks the game visually and you don't get anything out of the HD models because you're always looking at them from a distance that makes detail meaningless. It works for other genres, but not RTS, as for how these look, they don't look much different to DoW2's units anyway, and going into DoW3 levels of fidelity starts running into the effect I've just described.

It is essentially the camouflage effect at play, where lots of detail breaks up the profile of the overall object and makes it harder to identify.

>>2046523
>But compared to how they could (or, indeed, should; it's 2025) be?
Grass is always greener and you'll always move the goalpost somewhere instead of being satisfied with what you got. For free.

>>2046527
>The more detailed the models get, the less readable units are at a glance
That's why I mod all my games to use NATO counters only.
Maximum. Readability.

>>2046923
>NATO counters only.
This is how I play Hearts of Iron.

>>2045223 (OP)
So this is going to be free for those who already own the OG, right?

>>2047171
They said it would have "competitive" pricing, whatever that means. My guess is that it will still cost money, but will probably be cheaper than old versions. If that's the case, since the anniversary edition is $50, it'll probably be $10-15 cheaper than that.

64bit is the most important part, so many things that make the game unstable will just disappear with this.

Don't forget to wishlist it

i mean its cool that they didnt try to resell it as a remastered version

>One of the challenges with the ‘classic edition’ is there are four possible multiplayer pools, so that’s complicated. We’re going to have one multiplayer pool, which will effectively be the Soulstorm multiplayer.
it's so fucking over

>>2049665
Isn't the only problem with Soulstorm skirmish mode the flyers? Surely they're aware of how much people complain about them and so they'll either fix them or give an option to disable them.

>>2049962
They said they weren't doing any balance changes for release

>>2046023
>whoever did this remaster decided to make everything brown
All games are brown now, did you see what they did to the Oblivion remaster?

>>2051337
Oblivion suffers from Bethesda's favorite single color filter, looking at the trailers for DoW they deliberately went out of their way to desaturate the colors instead.

>>2045223 (OP)
Too bad unification mod is shit and adds too much shit that's not even close to lore and you have no options to disable waifus and other shit.

>>2045811
Why do you idiots hate air units so much in a game where most units have guns and all factions have air units themselves?

>>2053695
luckily there are other, far better mods than trannyfication
>>2053721
because most people don't have the brain capacity to realize that using them is completely optional

Well even if this new remaster becomes some blessing to the big name mods like UA, that's still going to take at least a few months for modders to adapt so players really have nothing to lose provided they sit back and let things play out.

Let her release and grab when you feel comfortable.

>>2053721
because they're expensive and incredibly shit and worthless

>>2053729
UA isn't bad innit?

>>2053765
Skill issue
>>2053775
UA is the best mod on the block for ss.

>>2053800
balance issue, not a skill issue retard

UA and Unification are both dogshit bloat mods

>>2053807
I know what I said

>>2053817
And now with 64 bit we can bloat harder than we've ever bloated before!

>>2045223 (OP)
This shit is doa, the dev admitted they are too stupid to fix pathing so all they are doing is making the exe x64.

yep, i indoctrinated a new friend via Into the Breach (all random, fuck tau)

>>2055579
Christ I hope we get new maps, this shit's embarrassingly small.

>>2056044
Mods.....have more and bigger maps....

>>2045223 (OP)
Unification could have been something great, but the devs insistence on inserting their own OC's and factions into the mod kinda fucking ruined it. Pic related isn't even an easter egg, it's just a part of the Chaos Marine lineup for some reason, if the AI is Chaos they WILL make this unit.

>>2045626
isnt that what they do for total war though?

they probably wont fix camera
objectively dow2>dow1

>>2062296
I got DoW2 for free when I bought CoH2 like 12 years ago but I still have never tried it. What does it do better than the first game?

>>2045921
>>2045929
>>2053817
REAL patricians play The Crucible anyway

>>2062190
Fucking kek it's the waifu lady from spy family.
Why are modders like this?

>>2062295
Pretty sure Total War squeezes level of detail like crazy.

>>2062391
The squad tactics are cute. Lots and lots of idle chatter. Problem is the maps kind of suck. Wargear options are fairly limited since every character has basically one role and it doesn't make any sense to mix things up. You'll always have a missile launcher and a heavy bolter for your Devastator; you just swap them out in between missions based on if the intel says you will fight vehicles or not. No purpose giving a heavy bolter to your Tactical squad, though I guess the Chaos Rising expac supposedly makes a heavy bolter Force Commander at least somewhat viable.

>>2062190
Yeah I looked into it recently and there was this weird Japan inspired faction I've never heard of and it left me confused.

>>2064144
Just wait until you see Twilight Sparkle in the Imperial Guard
>>2065599
>weird Japan inspired faction
You're talking about the "Tekarn Shogunate" and it's a travesty. The really annoying part is that it isn't actually a unique faction, but rather a separate path that Traitor Guard chooses at game start, so if you're playing against the AI it's a 50-50 chance that you get to fight Vraks (a pretty okay faction), or the weeaboo fanfiction with EXTREMELY busted commanders (from Genshin and Star Wars of all things).
Icing on the cake is that Tekarn is actually a loyalist regiment (though one with next to no lore)

I am again reminded how disappointed I was in Soulstorm's "aviation" having played Empire Earth before.

>>2045223 (OP)
Does Sega changing the exe to x64 make any meaningful changes compared to the old 4GB patch?

>>2067109
I unironically think the Tekarn Shogunate looks colol its just they should have been 100 percent loyalists instead of the weird chaos thing they have. (also they need to be balanced)

>>2046072
If they don't fix that and also don't add the extra zoom camera mod by default then there's no reason to buy this

>>2070085
Also they need to add a campaign difficulty where both sides have 100% HPs

>>2070043
read the thread.

>>2067109
>>2070082
These guys look kakkoii! Maybe I should look into this kuso mod ^^

>1. space marine units replaced by closest primaris equivalents
>2. custom colorscheme editor removed, you can now buy DLC with chapter skins like in space marine 2
>3. ork voicelines changed to be grimdark and scary, space marine voicelines - less over the top
choose your poison

>>2071632
Have to pick the first one, the other options do far more damage

>>2071632
Pretty much the first. Even though I liked Space Marine showing off the Grimdark side of Orks since it should come up once in a while.

>>2071632
I'd pick #2. #1 and #3 are dealbreakers. My 40k knowledge is like 20 years out of date, I just picked up Battlesector and really enjoyed it but once I realized it was all primaris shit and there were no tactical marines etc it kinda killed the game for me.

>>2071632
I pick >4
>4. Eldar get a Striking Scorpion unit and they have voices closer to the cool elves of 2 instead of the mysterious fruits of 1, thus terribly clashing with the rest of the faction, also chainswords and pistols kind of sound like Banshee power swords and pistols, oh the horror

since it's now in 64-bit they should remove the 20/20 unit caps
they should also add expansions for tyranids, leagues of votann, chaos daemons + specific factions, inquisition, adeptus mechanicus, adeptus custodes and update the eldar + dark eldar
leave primarislop for dawn of war 4

I wonder how the "four games in one" will work, like can you pick which expansion set's rules you're playing with? I liked vanilla and WA, but didn't like what Dark Crusade did to everything (both the balance changes to existing armies, and the cheesy-ass Tau and Necrons). Never played Soulstorm.

>>2064069
That's not how you spell "Purgation of Kaurava"

>>2073941
Remaster, not remake. Graphic and performance updates, but this this is still just 40k 4th edition rules. So no major updates like factions and rules from the current edition.

Now you are a devastator, brother.

>>2075180
>dark crusade raised the number of heavy weapons in a devastated squad from 4 to 5 because, um, because it just did okay

>>2075224
more heavy bolters = more corpses

>>2075429
>more corpses
CAPTAIN THUUULE!

>>2071632
2, I refuse to buy bideo games with pringels marines, and I am fine with playing as Ultras and blood raves.

>>2071632
2 because I would just pirate it.I will never use primadonas.

>>2071632
And unique chapters should get more than just different skins anyway.

It feels like this is a feeler. Like what AoE and AoM did where they tested the waters with a remaster before making a full remake

I sure hope so anyway, I still have faith in Relic, for some reason

I don't like the silence on this, I know they haven't promised to add anything but at least some marketing you relic niggers

>>2073953
soulstorm ruleset is now the only binding and existent one

>>2045341
>>2045366
the game is DOA why doesnt it have 128bit at this point.
my graphic cards memory is running at 256 bit

>>2078863
is that a bad thing? nta, but i only played dark crusade and og campaign

>>2045223 (OP)
does it have dark crusade and soulstorm?
a;so is the bug with non presistant bases in soulstorm fixed?

>>2047002
same
I spit on people who say they can't read nato counters

>>2079672
>a;so is the bug with non presistant bases in soulstorm fixed?
this was a deliberate game design choice, not a bug

>>2071632
>Orkz trying to sound serious and sinister while talking about who will win in a foight between that git Snazztoof and his rival Gitkilla.
It would just be even funnier.

>>2047002
>>2079686
FUCK YOU I NEED MY 3D GRAFIX

>>2081284
it wouldn't tho. think mossacanibalis orks

DoW 1's campaign sucks.

I'm playing Dark Crusade now though and the campaign is very fun.

Does this have a price yet?

>>2045366
Dow can only access 3gb ram and whenever I try to play unification mod it crashed with too many units... Out of ram error. This should fix that

>>2062391
It's a very different game. More like Diablo 2 with rtt elements

>>2045223 (OP)
I'm more worried about how modders are taken to the news, it's going to be like seeing skyrim special edition and everyone switching over to that instead of old game for modding.

>>2062391
It's soulless mobile action figure bullshit

>>2088345
I would agree with you if it wasn't for the fact that the OG DoW's engine has a limit to what can be ran on it and it's not very impressive

And to think I just bought this game too...

>>2073675
wow that looks like shit

August 14th
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ozt22B0Wt-I

>>2091473
>added voicelines where there didnt need to be any
>no AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
not a good sign bros...

>>2045733
The mod is certainly not "fine"

>>2091480
>>no AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
definitely a bad sign. god forbid man has any hobbies

>>2091473
you're gonna have to disable image fingerprinting protection in your firefox settings if you want to post images anon

>>2045733
Shut the fuck up Kekoulis, you humongous faggot. Go take TheLaughingMax and let his pajeet weiner rail you while you imagine he was 2B.

>>2095526
meds

>>2091473
Did they think people hated the scream lol? Who is this meant to appease?

>>2091473
The guy telling them about reinforcements is in the original but they increased the volume of his voice.