Thread 2048823 - /vst/ [Archived: 751 hours ago]

Anonymous
5/26/2025, 1:48:14 AM No.2048823
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How do I make everyone wealthy
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Anonymous
5/26/2025, 1:58:25 AM No.2048835
>>2048823 (OP)
Unironically kill the poor
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Anonymous
5/26/2025, 1:59:46 AM No.2048839
>>2048835
fpbp
Anonymous
5/26/2025, 3:45:15 AM No.2048888
mutilation
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The devs are extremely based for including this in the game, and for explicitly making the point that the definition of the phrase applies to both sexes.

I'm sure a bunch of mutilated yahudis sneeded in anger when they saw this.
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Anonymous
5/26/2025, 6:38:34 AM No.2048961
>>2048888
Muttmericans in shambles
Anonymous
5/26/2025, 6:58:18 AM No.2048977
>>2048888
This is extremely antisemitic.
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Anonymous
5/26/2025, 6:56:43 PM No.2049480
>>2048835
that would make rich poor as they would have no one to leach from
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Anonymous
5/26/2025, 10:43:09 PM No.2049764
>>2048977
Thank you for noticing!
Anonymous
5/26/2025, 11:48:21 PM No.2049821
Is this the newest Democracy game? Also, you canโ€™t have everyone be rich because than the poor are just the less rich people lol
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Anonymous
5/27/2025, 12:34:48 AM No.2049872
>>2049480
Then kill the new poor. Continue until you succeed
Anonymous
5/27/2025, 12:48:06 AM No.2049885
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>>2049821
Yes. To my knowledge there are still poor/middle classes, it's just that they spend so little that everyone end up earning like a millonaire. Reverse a few policies and everyone will return to the default numbers.
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Anonymous
5/27/2025, 2:25:24 AM No.2049963
>>2048823 (OP)
you can just remove all taxes and pass all social programs and ignore debt and nothing happens lmao
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Anonymous
5/27/2025, 2:43:35 AM No.2049979
>>2048835
>We got 3 kids and 2 chairs how do we make it so everyone has a seat.jpg
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Anonymous
5/27/2025, 8:03:43 AM No.2050136
>>2048888
this is very problematic. can you have state enforced genital mutilation, at least?
Anonymous
5/27/2025, 8:06:04 AM No.2050141
>>2049963
>ignore debt and nothing happens lmao
Just like real life countries do, simulation is on point
Anonymous
5/27/2025, 8:28:43 AM No.2050154
>>2048823 (OP)
I remember how if you did too good then your entire country will become 100% ethnic minority even if you maximize everything that would reduce immigration.
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Anonymous
5/27/2025, 8:39:09 AM No.2050160
>>2050154
I remember this in Democracy 3, the solution was to implement the most draconian ID checks and border controls plus outlawing foreign religions. Even though your country would still end up 15% ethnic minority.
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Anonymous
5/27/2025, 10:46:35 AM No.2050210
>>2048888
>liberals approve of punishing crimes
How does this game describe conservatives and liberals again?
Aren't unemployed people grouped in with socialists for some reason?
>>2049885
>the poor take a keen interest in wealth redistribution, specifically from the one percent, they really care about the one percent
>poor person: fat, drunk, stoic, neon haired, smoking woman, and mild mannered brown with no shoes
I forgot this game is really weird.
>>2050160
>the most draconian ID checks and border controls
Didn't it go up to DNA checks or something ridiculous?
I wonder if the game would have been allowed to be sold if it had a slider for visas and a slider for naturalisation. It'd be funny if you picked a poorer country in one of the DLCs and found out your visa policy is about emigration and remittances that help your GDP, and your naturalisation policy bans even stateless expats from immigrating.
I don't remember if there was even a slider about travel itself, i.e. how easy it is to just go on holiday or go on business trips, which I would have thought a middle class political game would be aware of.
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Anonymous
5/27/2025, 12:22:12 PM No.2050258
>>2050210
Liberals are pro social freedom and conservatives are pro social stability. It's very classical rather than the new meme buzzword definitions.
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Anonymous
5/27/2025, 1:15:17 PM No.2050299
>>2050210
Also unless you pass all the ultra liberal policies that will turn everyone into a racial minority, any number of them will cause enough racial tension that will in turn cause crime that you have to track your citizens with spy satellites, secret police and police patrolling the streets with long guns to keep it under control.
And the funniest things is, even if your people are okay with your policies and genuinely happy and prosperous the (((international community))) will keep malding at you for running an ethnostate and keep sending drone strikes and funding terrorist organisations.
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Anonymous
5/27/2025, 1:44:58 PM No.2050332
>>2050299
But enough about real life, lets focus on the videogame
Anonymous
5/27/2025, 5:19:16 PM No.2050597
>>2048823 (OP)
Create a slave caste to hold up the rest of the population
Anonymous
5/27/2025, 6:31:22 PM No.2050730
>>2048823 (OP)
the game was made by a retarded neolibe, so the answer is do neolib shit and you win
Anonymous
5/27/2025, 6:50:28 PM No.2050753
>>2049979
If all you have is 3 kids and 2 chairs, killing one of the kids is literally the only solution
Anonymous
5/27/2025, 7:01:46 PM No.2050764
>>2049979
Break the chairs, they can all sit on the floor
Anonymous
5/27/2025, 9:06:23 PM No.2050875
>>2049979
Turn a chair upside down.
Anonymous
6/1/2025, 9:29:29 PM No.2056336
>>2050299
>happy and prosperous the (((international community))) will keep malding at you for running an ethnostate and keep sending drone strikes and funding terrorist organisations.
wtf
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Anonymous
6/1/2025, 10:18:08 PM No.2056391
the game was almost top-tier satire thanks to the complacency mechanic but apparently the dev toned it down.
he could have made it so you're allowed to make up policies that do nothing, then have fake "civil society" NGOs astroturf a demand for the policy to beat back complacency. like the stupid EU bottlecap law
Anonymous
6/1/2025, 11:10:34 PM No.2056438
>>2050258

Everyone is pro stability for the ideals they are comfortable with. Thatโ€™s why right wing is rebellious now and left wing is controlling.
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Anonymous
6/2/2025, 11:27:40 AM No.2056759
>>2056336
Even if you social engineer your way into your anti-immigrant agenda being broadly supported by the population the policies that discourage minority growth tank your "foreign opinion" or something like that. Of your opinion is really low you will get random events of "you got bombed" or "foreign state funds radical groups". In my case I was constantly dodging religious fundie assassination attempts(with religion effectively extinct), so that was a real taliban moment.
That was in an older version of the game though.
Anonymous
6/2/2025, 7:04:42 PM No.2057083
>>2048823 (OP)
Same way the dune coons did it: nationalize the minerals and give citizens profit sharing while only having a small number of citizens.
Anonymous
6/2/2025, 7:29:12 PM No.2057100
>>2048835
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_4J4uor3JE
Anonymous
6/2/2025, 10:18:09 PM No.2057280
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>>2048823 (OP)
Thatโ€™s a man.
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Anonymous
6/6/2025, 7:00:55 AM No.2060190
>>2048823 (OP)
why does the game have the budget at 3.8 trillion instead of 6.5 for america? its set in 2024 and doesn't take into account state or local budgets, either. They got the debt right but not the federal budget.
Replies: >>2060334 >>2061964
Anonymous
6/6/2025, 7:04:04 AM No.2060192
>>2048823 (OP)
I completely eliminated poverty in my run, and only expanded term limits to three terms. Seems like there is never enough capital to do everything you want to do, there are always a couple policies i forget about.
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Anonymous
6/6/2025, 7:12:02 AM No.2060194
>>2060192
I don't know how your supposed to get UBI to work. (maybe thats the point, its too expensive) Even when you implement it, people don't use it to buy health insurance and it doesn't seem to affect education, housing, or food scarcity.

I kind of wanted to privatize health care by giving out health care vouchers and use charter schools, but its way cheaper to just use public healthcare and public education than it is to do it that way.

I tend to avoid public utilities companies and privatize existing ones, australia is kind of difficult cause it starts with a shitload of problems and if you don't do something about the food crisis the first turn you end up with a food shortage and people starving. The only thing I figured out is that canceling oil subsidies gives back around 8 billion dollery doos, and privatizing the rail and water companies gives about 4 bil, but if you privatize the water company your stuck with droughts and water shortages until water meters and desalinization plants kick in.

The main problem i have with the game is picking your cabinet, its a pain to do it everytime at the start of the game and your having to constantly replace them.
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Anonymous
6/6/2025, 7:15:46 AM No.2060195
>>2060194
I kind of wish there was a 'god mode' where you could just implement all your policies at once. Also did you notice there is a political spectrum test that shows your presidential terms and an overall ranking for you, the player?

I kind of wish you could set up a seperate profile for if you want to experiment with different setups.
Anonymous
6/6/2025, 9:24:32 AM No.2060257
>>2060194
well the Aussie experience with UBI is probably taken from cofvid stimulus of which a huge proportion was spent on gambling
Anonymous
6/6/2025, 11:10:18 AM No.2060292
>>2057280
Prove it
Anonymous
6/6/2025, 12:24:32 PM No.2060334
>>2060190
also the census they use claims america is 70% white, which is absolute horseshit, we are under 50% white, less than 40% in the southwest. Its not our fault were the only people who bother to participate in the census.
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Anonymous
6/6/2025, 1:04:36 PM No.2060356
>>2056438
That's not what it means in this context though.
Social freedom means people can't moralfag about what you do as long as you don't harm someone, social stability means there's a moral imperative that must be followed. Liberalism in this context is more libertarianism.
Anonymous
6/6/2025, 1:04:38 PM No.2060357
>>2060334
>noooo hispanic whites aren't hwhiiiiiite
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Anonymous
6/6/2025, 2:18:14 PM No.2060383
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>>2060357
Anonymous
6/8/2025, 1:49:09 PM No.2061725
>>2048823 (OP)
Have you tried any of the harder nations?
I looked Japan, and even though I know the budget data is a little off, in-game they run a deficit of almost half their total budget.

That'd be like if the US spent had 6 trillion in revenue and spent 9 trillion a year.
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Anonymous
6/8/2025, 1:51:45 PM No.2061726
>>2060357
you really aren't bro.
be proud of who you are, you don't need to ape white culture.
Anonymous
6/8/2025, 9:36:24 PM No.2061960
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>>2049979
... are you trying to goad me into a fight?
Anonymous
6/8/2025, 9:38:32 PM No.2061961
>>2056438
>It's very classical rather than the new meme buzzword definitions.
>Proceeds to meme buzzwords
Thanks for proving the point
Anonymous
6/8/2025, 9:39:35 PM No.2061964
>>2060190
Nigga, this is a game where GDP has a glass ceiling value over which it won't grow any further, and you are asking why it's the wrong value.
Anonymous
6/8/2025, 9:41:11 PM No.2061965
>>2060194
>but if you privatize the water company your stuck with droughts and water shortages until water meters and desalinization plants kick in.
The trick is to first introduce the meters (they are cheap as fuck anyway) and then privatize.
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Anonymous
6/8/2025, 11:20:44 PM No.2062035
>>2061965
both the meters and the desalinization plants take 8 turns to kick in, and at the default budget the state water companies don't do much of anything about the water shortage. I usually increase the water companies budget then cancel it later.
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Anonymous
6/8/2025, 11:34:16 PM No.2062047
>>2062035
So let me get this straight:
>I need solution to drought
>I spend mana on ineffective scheme
>To then spend even more mana to cancel the scheme
>Because I can't just wait 4 turns and do other stuff in the meanwhile
Brilliant strategy!
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Anonymous
6/9/2025, 11:22:44 PM No.2062917
>>2062047
if you don't do something about the water shortage you can get food shortages
Anonymous
6/9/2025, 11:27:39 PM No.2062919
>>2049979
Stack them on top of each other so you can have an arbitrary amount of kids on one chair
The other one can be left empty
Anonymous
6/10/2025, 1:49:57 AM No.2063030
>>2061725
I tried with Switzerland. I won the first election but lost the following by cancelling a single policy, I don''t remember which.
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Anonymous
6/10/2025, 2:01:46 AM No.2063040
>>2060357
>Hispanic
>Whites
Seriously? Is this a joke or just trolling? Pick one you disingenuous faggot.
Anonymous
6/10/2025, 7:28:49 AM No.2063205
>>2063030
the elections really aren't that hard usually, game feels more like a sandbox to implement your social policies.
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Anonymous
6/10/2025, 7:34:40 AM No.2063210
>>2057280
that's a drawing
Anonymous
6/10/2025, 10:39:14 AM No.2063308
>>2063030
>>2063205
And I got filtered again. Maybe I shouldn't increase the tobacco tax that soon. That and not use the crime focus during the campaign.
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Anonymous
6/10/2025, 2:19:07 PM No.2063445
I would give myself an A+
I would give myself an A+
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>>2063308
Fuck, finally.
Anonymous
6/10/2025, 2:26:37 PM No.2063450
>>2048888
How exactly is banning genital mutilation going to cost the state 130 million $ a year?
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Anonymous
6/10/2025, 6:11:29 PM No.2063698
>>2063450
You need to pay the people doing penis/vagina inspections to see that there is no underground genital mutilation.
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Anonymous
6/10/2025, 7:04:18 PM No.2063750
>>2063450
Combating the constant ADL lawsuits
Anonymous
6/10/2025, 7:09:53 PM No.2063756
>>2063698
OK, groomer
Anonymous
6/10/2025, 10:01:27 PM No.2064004
>>2063450
>How exactly is banning genital mutilation going to cost the state 130 million $ a year?
Male genital mutilation is unfortunately still an accepted practice in the USA. More importantly, the literal ruling class of the USA (the Jews) consider it to be a mandatory, sacred ritual. You aren't going to ban male genital mutilation in the USA without burning through billions of dollars to enforce the ban, and to deal with all of the inevitable Jewish lawsuits.
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Anonymous
6/12/2025, 2:33:08 AM No.2065446
>>2064004
I would at least give amnesty to people who performed circumcision before the law went into effect, and I'd treat it more like a mental illness. Imprisonment, but more like 6 months in mental health facility.
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Anonymous
6/12/2025, 2:34:46 AM No.2065450
>>2065446
the game is kind of weird about this, how are you going to 'ban' it unless you use fines or imprisonment? Kinna schizo honestly.
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Anonymous
6/12/2025, 2:37:36 AM No.2065454
Something else this game gets wrong, it recognizes the link between gambling and organized crime, but not cigarette tax and organized crime. Bootleggers are definitely going to get in on that, along with high alcohol tax. We already have a major problem with that in the states.
Anonymous
6/12/2025, 3:20:09 AM No.2065482
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>>2048823 (OP)
keynesian GayDP magic
Anonymous
6/12/2025, 3:36:08 AM No.2065486
>>2063450
They justify it by claiming it stops the spread of a certain kind of genital cancer.
In females.
Which requires men to be circumcised.
Anonymous
6/12/2025, 5:31:57 AM No.2065543
>>2065450
>>2065446
The exact same way that female genital mutilation is banned in the West.
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Anonymous
6/12/2025, 9:19:28 AM No.2065664
>>2065543
When the practice is uncommon and broadly condemned there's not much enforcement to be done really. If you somehow managed to pass a law banning circumcision, which you probably wouldn't, you'd have adl malding and a supreme court freedom of religion case and it's not just jews, evangelicals and shit would probably keep doing it and stamping it out would take effort.
Anonymous
6/13/2025, 12:37:59 PM No.2066421
>>2048888
Muslims pissing blood rn
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 4:50:47 AM No.2068388
>>2065450
doctors lose their license if they do it and parents get in trouble (if its being done for non-medical reasons)