Kingdom Rush General - who loves these fucking tower defense games as much as I do? They are S-tier, no question. Bloons is A-tier. It's not even a contest.

They have 5 titles and hopefully another on the way. All games are full of vibrant art and detail, touches of love, and lots of content. They are challenging on the highest difficulties, but fair.

I wanted to get everyone's general opinion on the game, and just discuss mechanics in general, as well as gripe about things we find annoying or that we would like to see changed/added in future titles or updates.

Anyway - Kingdom Rush general - which of the 5 titles is your favorite, least favorite, and why?

Please contribute. :)

:( no fans?

Why did they never manage to make a game of similar quality to the first one?

>>2056289
Trolling? What didn't you like about the successors? They're all wonderful.

>>2056571
No game comes close to the first one in terms of content

I just want modern/guns focused kingdom rush. Tower dominion is close, but that game has tons of issues.

Bloons is genuinely and awful TD game.

>>2056688
Kingdom Rush with modern/guns would be dope. I would mimic their style and do that if I got inspired and wouldn't get shit on for copying them. There's a Chinese version of Kingdom Rush (I forget what it's called, but it's good) that gets flak but I think it's just how gaming works. It takes the exact same format but plays identical and brings more attention to the original franchise.

Anyway do you have any ideas or suggestions or towers, enemy types, or story for a modern-day style KRTD game?

>>2056676
You're a troll. Each iteration added content. More levels, towers, heroes.

>>2056571
nah
they are worse and worse
maybe 2 next after first are alright

>>2056062
>>2056180
Calm down my man, this is a slow board.
>>2056050 (OP)
I played the original, frontiers and origins before getting burned up, all of them are great, but I guess frontiers was my favorite, felt like the most polished version of the orignal, but I like the original's setting more.
Also, the Steam version of Kingdom Rush fucked artillery somehow and it was awful, only the Tesla towers felt viable at harder difficulties.

>>2056901
Alliance made it so you can have 2 heroes plus swap towers. Vengeance also did this. It adds a lot of variety and layers of possible strategy to the games. I highly recommend them. Origins was great too, and I agree with you that Frontiers was their most polished. They added Endless to Frontiers which I love. I'd want to see it in all their games, for all domains but that's asking a lot.

What about artillery was fucked in the Steam version? I didn't notice that at all. I was able to spam artillery and I've beaten literally every stage in every game on the highest difficulty.

>>2056945
>What about artillery was fucked in the Steam version? I didn't notice that at all. I was able to spam artillery and I've beaten literally every stage in every game on the highest difficulty.
Felt weaker overall compared to the flash version, though when I played it was before they introduced heroes, so maybe they balanced between release and the steam version.

>>2056954
Steam version always had heroes, didn't it? I've had it since launch but I forgot if that was an update added, or just the change from flash. Either way, never recall the artillery being weak unless you're using it in bad locations. In fact I used it plenty.

Go check out the 2 newest ones if you have the time, money, and interest. I can't see you not enjoying the extra tower choices, 5 different types to take at a time, mix-and-match.

Alliance, the most recent, having 2 heroes plus the 5-tower loadout style has been the most complex and most enjoyable for me simply because the game never gets boring. You always have options to try and have to be on your game constantly on the highest difficulties because you're managing the extra hero on top of everything else.

>>2056050 (OP)
Your time is over, old man >>2057885

Could we maybe make a TD general instead? I enjoy TD games but people keep making threads for individual titles and they all die in like 25 posts max.
Unless it's about Bloons, because Bloons players are hardcore autistic.

I tried the fifth one
It has far to much feature bloat, and everything feels plastic
The upgrade system was hideous and no longer used the stars
The heroes were both generic and out of place, the towers (There are like 20 now) had no common theme
I stopped at level 3 and I will not start again
The first one was much better

>>2056050 (OP)
I quite liked Iron Marines from the same devs. The touchscreen controls were actually rather well designed.

I just replayed the first two (hadn’t touched them since I was a kid) on mobile. The games are fun although the second one feels less balanced. I just wish they didn’t paywall most of the heroes and you could unlock them somehow.

>>2065737
If you're on Android, you can take the Play Pass to play all the games in the series for free with all the heroes unlocked.
And some of the heroes are indeed unbalanced, even better than towers: Ignus from KR was really strong, though micro-heavy; Bonehart from KR:F was nuts; Phoenix in KR:O was almost as good; and Eiskalt in Vengeance was plain broken.

>>2058744
Looks mid at best.

>>2060825
Nonsense. The fifth allows you to use two heroes, way more challenging on the higher difficulties, and having to micro the two along with towers are other stuff keeps you on your toes.

First game was good, but Frontiers (2nd game) was probably the peak to most people. It's still one of my favorite of them all.

The thing about Vengeance and Alliance (4th and 5th titles) is they changed it to 5 towers to loadout at a time, with a ton of towers in each (20 or so, like you saw) and people didn't take to this as well. Each tower only has one max upgrade path with 3 abilities, as opposed to the first three games where you had 4 towers, each with 2 branched maxed tower paths to choose, so in essence every map you played you could have 8 different towers at a time.

I like both, but I can see why people wished it stayed the game as it did in the first three games.

The first game has the worst mechanics with heroes, which they changed in the second game which is the same in titles 3, 4, and 5. In the first game heroes begin at level 1 on every map you play and level by fighting on each stage. The problem is some take forever to hit level 10 and if they don't hit it you can have trouble beating the highest difficulty on later stages.

In titles 2 through 5 heroes keep their level through stages, you level them up to 10, then go back to try the highest difficulties and harder stages knowing your heroes are maxed, making it a bit easier in that regard.

Either way I love every one of the titles and have played them multiple times.

I bought the first game a couple months ago. It went for like 50cent back then. It's in my library eventually I'll play it (I always play my steam games, I don't even claim free games if I know I won't play them).

tower...defense?

>>2056050 (OP)
My brother and I loved the shit outta these games. 1-3 are peak, never really could get into the later ones.
Sarelgaz's Lair is probably my favorite level of all time to this day, though all the Jungle Levels in 2 and the Floating City levels in 3 are great as well.
My brother is an illustrator now and his style was actually influenced somewhat by the art direction in 3

>>2061420
Agreed. I didn't jive with the game the same as with KR, but maybe I should give it another pass, cause the controls were genuinely well programmed

Only played the first one to completion and Frontiers up to the second boss iirc
Got the GoG version of the original installed a few days ago and played it again plus the extra content which I never had a kid. The extra elite missions are cool, I have already done the bandit, orc and spider ones, next I'll do the troll missions, then the ones in the right side of the map which I imagine are harder.

>>2078884
Wait what's the GoG version? There is more content than the Steam version or something?

>>2056050 (OP)
>carries the game in ur path

>>2079936
>GoG ever having anything extra over Steam
He's obviously talking about the content that wasn't available back when KR was a browser game that you could play for free on Flash gaming sites and the premium stages and heroes were paywalled.

i like all the KR games. worth every penny i didn't pay.

>>2080394
Exactly.
Also heroes (free or paid) weren't even a thing when I played the flash version of KR lmao.
>>2080226
He's not even the best hero, more like the fourth or fifth best. They are broken as hell.

>>2056050 (OP)
these games along with bloons were my childhood flashgames. I love the first three games, i dont like the change that exploded the amount of towers in the game rather than branching upgrade paths

Just beat Pandaemonium. Damn that stage really was far harder than anything else in the game. Only managed to 2star it since a cerberus slipped through. I think the key was to upgrade the barracks to paladins with the heal upgrade to stall them for long.
Moloch wasn't all that hard actually since his insta kill is so predictive you can actually stall him a lot with your hero. Just move the hero away every now and then.

OP is a newfag that can't handle any criticism of his precious series

>>2083490
Now beat it on highest difficulty NLL.

>>2056050 (OP)
Very comfy games, started out playing them years ago on mobile, always appreciated the graphics and simplicity. Played them again on PC a few months back, surprisingly comfy still, especially on harder difficulties trying to figure out how to win.

What I dislike as the games go on is they become more complex, I suppose it's inevitable with each new iteration but if not careful you risk adding shit just for the sake of it.

Other things i didn't like were how events would happen with no warning that fuck you over. Like having to delete half your towers and build different ones hastily just so you could counter 1 ridiculous enemy at the end of a level. and the games were too short.

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I like TD games as casual time wasters, but I can't get into higher difficulties.
It just becomes repeated trial and error, testing how far I can go with what I have and save money for a more powerful and cost effective tower.
Also really annoyed with stuff like have tower x by round y or lose or the game not telling me a towers fire rate or damage.

>>2056050 (OP)
>>2056062
>>2056180
>>2056571
>>2056865
haven't seen a worse series of posts in a while. absolute cancer

>>2056050 (OP)
The first 3 were so good. The ones after that, they got rid of the branching upgrades gimmick that I thought was the best thing about the tower system. If anything they should have had even more elaborate upgrade paths.

>curses your treasure

>>2100725
i can't say the subtitle inspires confidence

>>2100725
love this game

I hate nons.

>>2100776
It is definitely unique among the slop of td games.
I wish they removed the skull shop feature in the steam release and made the last few levels possible without it.