No Dominions thread? Where are my fellow blood magic enjoyers at?

>>2059564 (OP)
has dominions finally been pushed off /vg/?

>>2059564 (OP)
>Tried 5 times to get into the game
>Got filtered all 5 times
That's my entire input to the subject matter

Blood magic is too much busy work. Although bloodslaves being trampled by elephants forever is a classic tune.

>>2059564 (OP)
>Blood Fountain
>Undying x5
>Enchanted Blood

>>2059695
I share this man's pain.
How the fuck you even play those games?
>Read instructions
>Read few different guides
>Watch bunch of lets plays
>Sit to game
>I still have no idea how to play this, and how to not get squashed completely by AI

>>2059704
>another turn of my blood searchers getting shanked by angry peasants because their body guards are inept fucks
Fuck off, I just want to summon demons and bring about armageddon.

>>2059704
Blood magic is a hassle but it's amazing when you get it off the ground. One of the most fun MP victories I ever had was in no small part thanks to being autistic enough to break into blood magic as Caelum.

Played a couple of MP Dom4 matches and got steamrolled so hard it put me off the whole thing. I need to go back to SP and master the basics before I get cooked online again

>>2059939
>break into blood magic as Caelum.
Do tell more.

>>2059716
Find a nation that clicks with you and then just figure it out against easy AI, I'd say. I found EA Ur great for learning the basics.
Just stay away from blood nations at the start.

post silly ideas and builds

>>2059979
Basically I found two decent blood sites very early on (Slave Market and Blood Henge) and made the executive decision to just go all-in on developing my blood economy since that's clearly whaty Pankoman wanted from me. Thanks to teaming up with a neighbour to delete the nearest real threat and then making the gamer move to break our agreement and eat my ally halfway through the war, I was in a ridiculously good position by midgame. My only remaining neighbour was similarly busy eating everyone around him so I decided to just turtle for a bit and build back my forces after two consecutive wars. By the end of the game it was just me, my neighbour, and a barely relevant R'lyeh player left, so me and my neighbour mutually decided to just go balls out total war against eachother to see who was stronger. I ended up winning, partially because my opponent's battlefield strategy was pretty self-destructive but also because who the fuck expects Caelum to have a fully functional lategame blood economy.

>>2060004
Any other good starting nations? Some youtuber recommended EA Ulm but I found them very boring.

>>2060424
EA Agartha was the one I learned the game with and won my first SP game. Olms in the back mindblasting everyone then later switched to spamming earth elementals

How do i bypass the red screen of death?

Nagot Gick Fel!

>>2059564 (OP)
i haven't played in years, unequivocally the greatest strategy game of all time. It's too over stimulating for me and i get over invested. Soul crushing when you lose.

>spend countless hours autistically learning the game and almost every spell and unit
>practice and finally get good at an opening and perfecting a build
>get a good mp game going where im crushing the early game and making good alliances and treaties like im bismark
>start snowballing and have everybody exactly where i want them
>spend every waking hour thinking about the game and going through all the different scenarios to craft a path foward
>get over confident and calculate that i can win a war on 2 fronts, and that by doing so i will reach a point where i am unstoppable and can no longer be stopped by the inevitable incoming gang up coalition
>the war comes to a climax and in one turn i attack the enemies capital on front 1 and barely lose out on taking it by a mere handful of units, and on front 2 after a long cat and mouse hunt with a horse nigger opponent that has been running from my superior forces, he is able to wipe out one of my smaller armies unexpectedly, delaying the war on front 2 longer than i had anticipated.
>the very next turn 3 of my neighbors pounce on the momentary weakness and backstab me. If i had won at least one of my fronts i would have the forces to stabilize and use superior end game magic to win, but i can't fight a 5 front war now.
>noooooo i cant lose, i was supposed to win, this can't be happening
>have a breakdown like hitler and uninstall the game and delete discord

oh to mash dominions with classic total war...

>>2059564 (OP)
Is there any point getting into 6, or it's just 5 with minor changes?

>>2059564 (OP)
>Basic introduction to a single nation
>45+ minutes long video
Are they bad at explaining, or this game is distilled autism?

>>2061075
the problem is the people who know how to play don't know how to edit videos

>>2061075
Yes
("basic introduction" still means you're going over stats and uses of 10-20 units, then there's pretender design and stuff like freespawn quirks where applicable)

>>2061075
>*slowly clicks through the entire nation's roster giving basic descriptions of 5 slightly different spearmanii*
here's your guide bro

>>2061080
So shit at explaining, got it

>>2061083
But those units are virtually identical. I want to know what' unique about this or that nation, not why Ulm's Forest and Mountain Warrior are same, but different, but still same

>>2061086
That actually helps.

>>2059695
I like the game, I had fun every playthrough I tried, but I just didn't get satisfied from the gameplay loop. It felt like I was working towards something shallow since the game is so catan, boardgamey.

>>2061075
This is the game where every question is answered with "it depends".

I mostly play skirmish x AI because i suck at MP. Is it possible to actualy defeat the lovecraftian horrors after the turn limit on thrones victory? I was wondering

>>2061075
>Build whatever top units your faction can have
>Same with best ranger unit you can get
>Set them to attack closest
That's literally all there is to it.
>New provinces
Remember to send a magic hero to search for magic sites. They will find production bonuses, too, which are even better
>Magic
Useless 9 out of 10 times, you don't need it for anything at all
There is virtually no economy, so you aren't missing a thing, either with construction.

It's one of those games that has bazillion factors and elements to it, but none of this really matters other than "hire strongest, then just charge forward". I think only that shitty MoM clone, Warlord and Wizards (or whatever it was called) comes close to Dominons in terms of "game has elements that don't matter one fucking bit"
Oh, yeah, one more thing: it's designed to be played MP. If you are playing SP, you might as well go watch paint dry

>>2061152
>Wizards and Warlords
I completely forgot this game even existed. There wa like two weeks of intense hype, and then just nothing

>>2061159
You didn't miss a thing, it's virtually abandonware at this point, with no meaningful patches in nearly 3 years and no patches at all for 2, despite being half-finished "guys, trust me, this is not EA at all" project

>>2060424
EA Ulm is newbie friendly in the sense there is almost nothing to consider or fuck-up and thus you get a hang of the faction quickly, which in turn allows you to learn the ropes with the game. But by itself, it's pretty underwhelming once you DO know what to do and how to play

>>2061152
It's funny that you acknowledge that the game is meant for MP while giving advice that proves without a shadow of a doubt that you've never played an actual MP match.

>>2061242
If only it was possible to miss the point any harder

Any advice on killing Eater of Gods and other horrors consistently?

>>2061318
git gud

>>2061152
you have never played dominions

>>2061152
>magic
>useless 9 out of 10

I'd love to watch you play a MP match using only armies and no magic

>>2061828
To be fair people only use 1 out of 10 spells.

>>2061836
That is a completely unrelated statement to it being useless 90% of the time
If there are 1000 spells and 5 are used 99% of the time is that spells being useless 99.5% of the time or 0.5% of the time?

>>2061858
>That is a completely unrelated statement to it being useless 90% of the time
Only if you are ESL

And he is dead on money when comparing Dominions with W&W, which had 50 different resources and related production lines, except only 5 of them mattered at all (and only 3 if you weren't playing as a wizard)

>Better/even slightly more complex economy
>Bigger maps
>Less obtuse research system
>AI not being brain dead
>MP not being entirely populated by sweats

>>2062791
Fuck all that, gimme more elaborate scripts.

>>2059564 (OP)
I could never really get into dominions myself but it's still a really neat game so I enjoy watching anons talk about it.

>>2062791
>>MP not being entirely populated by sweats
Fucking this.
Unless you set up a game with friends, there is nobody else to play with. Not due to lack of players, but because those players are min-maxing autismos rushing for win. I want to chill after work, not get ass-raped after 20 minutes of playing

>>2062791
>AoD
>"Everyone loves it!"
>Best game ever
>Hook

>>2061279
Mad cuz bad.

>>2060994
Sounds fun, don’t be a whiny bitch next time.

No, I'm done.
How the FUCK does combat works in this game. No matter how I set formation, I end up with my archers overrun by enemy, and putting regular units between archers doesn't really work. Why there isn't a formation command "protect your archers" or if you mix archers with infantry, they doing that automatically in a fucking sensible way, rather than "if there is an unit there, it's gonna fight, but otherwise fuck this shit, let archers die"

t. newfag that spend probably more time with guides than actually playing, given I'm overrrun on regular basis by shit-tier units of AI

>>2064738
... which faction?

>>2064767
EA Ulm.
I'm doing everything the guide says, AI is set on easiest, I still get overrun in battle and I'm running out of ideas.

>>2064782
Play Sauromatia instead and be the one who attacks the archers.

>>2064782
post screenshot for troubleshooting purposes

wtf are the worm gone or something?

>>2066234
Already uninstalled.
I'm tired of having to guess what's wrong, and the game itself offers nothing BUT automated battles. No economy, research is just for more spells, all units accessible from the start... meh. Call it filtered, but it's just not fun to me

>>2066234
>>2066582
But to sum up:
>5 steel warriors guarding commander
>As many as I can of iron and steel warriors in the front row, with rear unit attacks
>Middle row made out of shield maidens and forest warriors, with just attack closest
>Archers in the back with attack cavalry command
>All rows set on double line
That was the most successful line up I managed to compose, and it still kept getting trashed eventually. AI sends crazy amount of units from all sides, so who cares if I defeat their army if I need to defeat 5 more, on three different fronts, and I can't afford even half of that many troops, even if I rush early and gobble bunch of provinces from independents

>>2061152
>ranger
>top units
>production bonuses
>no economy
>magic is useless
Decent b8 i guess

>>2064738
Don't use archers, they fucking suck. Use sacreds or medium/heavy cav if you want to steamroll shit early on.

>>2066582
>offers nothing BUT automated battles
Yeah it's a wargame sort of designed after tabletop stuff, what did you expect? Did you get into stuff like remote attack rituals, globals, gearing out thugs/SCs, etc?

>>2064738
just put infantry in a line and then put archers in another squad behind them??????

>>2059564 (OP)
Because it's just for online
I tried it multiple times and just steam roll the ai

>all these fragile new players getting filtered by cheating AI and the learning cliff, never to graduate to MP
Ascension Ain't free. The thrones of the Pantokrator gotta be litterd with the blood of virgins. Malakal aka "Diplomonster" is not my pankoman. he is diplofag discorder and probably tranny as well :DD. MEN and lizards not giants and ELFS ok. praise demilich.

>>2067567
At least the other anon admitted he's a newfag

>>2067701
>Implying anyone wants to play with MP sweats
The fact this thread is beyond dead should roughly tell you what's the draw of Dominions for the past... I think it was covid, when people started to mass play and that killed any hopes the game had outside sweat circles

t. only playing with friends, fuck playing with metafags and sweats

>>2067862
>he thinks this thread is where dominions is discussed
lol, lmao
the number of actual sweats in MP is puny, and half of them are no better than random shitters

>>2067886
>he thinks this thread is where dominions is discussed
Stay on discord, where you belong, and keep missing it further

>>2067894
>discord
>he legitimately doesn't even know
I look forward to your retarded cope, don't let me down.

>>2067903
>Continues to miss the point

>>2067924
The point that there are no sweats, like I already said?
That's a suitably retarded cope, thank you retard-kun.

Well there's a reason why /domg/ veteran is a joke after all

>>2059564 (OP)
/domg/ is still alive, so at least there is that.

>>2067701
The best way to play Dominions is hotseat mode against yourself.

>>2067928
>dominions
>no sweats
Nta, but come on now...

>>2067862
>this
there's /domg/ that's been the dominions place for years, usually tied at the hip with one or two discords that eventually die of old age.

How do I get gud at Dom6?

>>2078678
It depends.

>>2078733
NTA but do I git gud by playing singleplayer?

>>2078738
Oh no. You figure how to do shit in singleplayer but AI can't into much anything, so you have to do multiplayer to git gud. But no worries, there's only ever one winner in every MP game. Everyone's a loser.

>>2078743
I feel that I should at least play each nation once or twice to get a feel for them before attempting MP. The one time I did, I played EA Ermor and this Caelum player attacked me with a setup I had no idea how to counter. It was a curbstomp and I felt I didn't learn anything from it

>>2078678
ask questions, watch games by people who seem halfway competent, slowly memorize what spells/blesses/items/etc. are actually good
>>2078738
you can practice expansion (maximizing prov count in the first 12 turns, aiming for 15+ provs and 2+ forts started but more = better); many MP players don't do this and failspand constantly, but if you practice you'll develop an intuitive idea of how many of any unit you need to beat indies with insignificant losses
>>2078746
>I feel that I should at least play each nation once or twice
>play hundreds of SP games before playing MP
all this will do is cause you to burn out
I would learn how to play a strong, simple nation like MA C'tis or MA Mari that has an online guide, practice expansion with it then join a game
>I played EA Ermor and this Caelum player attacked me
Fighting any of the Caelums is annoying, their flight and flying attack rear (commander sniping) allows them to mass raid your provs and is a hard lesson on bodyguarding and army positioning.
They used to be even tougher in dom5 when Storm was in the same research tree as Thunder Strike and air eles were a lot stronger.

>>2078875
Oh this was back in Dom4. Eagle king summoned a storm and then thunderstrikes rained all over my troops. I couldn't even reach the mages as they had a line from top to bottom of these lifeless units that shocked you if you attacked them in melee. It was literally my first MP match and the guy had won several times already

>>2061086
knowing the intricacies of those 5 different spearmen and applying them appropriately can be the difference between a 6 province expansion phase and a 20 province expansion phase