what was the point of the party system in HoI3?
every country had 10 different parties yet it was pretty useless in context of the entire game

Interesting was their thinking regarding the nazi parties, all over the place they were just German folk parties instead of something native

It's actually the exact same as HoI4's, but convoluted and bad.

National Unity, using spies to fuck with it, etc. etc.

>>2060006
>having 10 different political groupings based on real world political groupings is bad
>having a "good guy" "bad guy", and "other guy" faction is good

>>2060056
Yes. This is a WW2 WARFARE sim, not a politics sim.

Player numbers speak for themselves, you pretentious faggot.

>>2060066
>player numbers
>for a 16 year old game
>that was released independently of steam
lmao

>>2060068
>m-muh mythical non-Steam players mufuga
This expression indicates an obsolete, hipster faggot's confusion and lack of understanding. When faced with reality of Paradox games and design actually improving over time and becoming more popular for it, and their own irrelevance, the obsolete, hipster faggot mumbles "muh Steam" or "muh hard copy, mufuga". This is usually followed by lying about their own game time, and just how many other people they know that do the same. No, you can't see it.

>>2060075
>mythical non-Steam players
how the fuck do you think people played games before steam you retarded zoomer
have fun owning nothing

>>2060076
>back in MY day
Nobody fucking cares. It's 2025, and the opinion of all... twelve people still playing HoI3 is worthless.

>>2060078
Thanks for confirming you are a zoomer. Please proceed to make a tiktok of 4chan having no chill.

>>2059981 (OP)
>Useless
Party popularity is used for regime flipping and more though plus the general alignment of your government determines which ministers are selectable. So no it's not useless at all, you just never engaged with the mechanic.

>>2060078
>Goes to a HOI3 thread
>Claims that the opinion of people who actually played the game doesn't matter
Nigger what the fuck is wrong with you?

>>2059981 (OP)
lore wise it makes sense but in game it's just random and only democracies can flip anyway so it doesnt do much

>>2059981 (OP)
it's how they replaced the left-right and democratic-authoritarian sliders from hoi2

>>2059981 (OP)
Back when Paradox cared about historical flavor instead of modifiers and wacky fantasy focus trees...

>>2060056
In practice it worked no different from HoI4's. Your country was either Democratic, Communist, Fascist, or Other. There was no meaningful difference between being Market Liberal or Social Conservative.

>>2060147
True. But I prefer that to democracies having elections between the sole democratic party, the sole communist party, and the sole fascist party.

>>2059981 (OP)
Flavour, but you are too low IQ to understand that zoomie.

>>2059981 (OP)
different parties changed which laws you had access to
party majority gave you national unity
you could do coups
>>2060066
>This is a WW2 WARFARE sim, not a politics sim.
this is true however the irony in this post is that hoi3 paid far less attention to politics than hoi4 did and was a much more focused ww2 sim

>>2060078
I still play it

>>2060078
You are a worthless faggot and should kill yourself

>>2059981 (OP)
1. Flavor and immersion
2. Ruling party popularity and organization affects national unity and dissent
3. Party sizes affects which ministers are available
4. Which party you are affects some espionage missions (support own party, coups)
5. Obviously in general affects available laws
Yeah it could be simplified as democratic/communist/fascist/non-aligned but the extra layer of granularity does impact some gameplay elements and more importantly is kinda fun and interesting
After all isn’t having eg both the Democrats and Republicans represented with some flavor/nuance between them better than just Support for Broadly Democratic Parties: 98%

>>2060147
>There was no meaningful difference between being Market Liberal or Social Conservative.
There was in HoI2/DH where political sliders actively influence modifiers.

>>2062210
Not only modifiers but your range of available ministers.

>>2060006
>>2060066
>Anything more than the most barebones, binary-ass system makes it a pol sim
>Nearly every major HOI4 mod has more ideologies than vanilla and this is a widely considered a mandatory feature by most of the community
>KX is a hyper-advanced political sim
Jesus Christ, these are some real brainlet takes.

>>2061996
Not even different parties, but factions within them. Stalinist USSR is a good example where having multiple ideologies can help. Yes, the communist party is pretty monolithic, but who supports the big guy? That's actually pretty important knowledge and could've improved especially a foreign power's understanding of the route they might go down just with a quick glance.

I thought the little politics mini game was fun

>>2060075
The point he was making is that no games released prior to Steam, or at the least very few games, have high player counts. That’s not a statement on their quality, just the nature of the platform.

>>2062561
It isn't a minigame, it's a meter that gives you information of your government's make-up and strength.

It's called Soul. and HOI3 is more realistic than hoi4

>>2060075
Steam stopped counting my hours playing this game and darkest hour once I started playing them in windowed mode (better performance) using a shortcut. So even though I’ve spent probably 10x as long playing those games over hoi4, steam stats basically say the opposite.

>>2065909
how can I run darkest hour windowed please helppp meee

>>2060006
>An actual, functional mechanic is bad, because it has more than 2 options
>A brain-dead successor system is good, because it just is, ok?
This is your brain on being a zoomer

>>2060066
>Allies end up declaring war on the menace that's Denmark
>Americans switch sides and fight for you, whoever you are
>Germany had to double-down on dissenters due to having low popular support for NSDAP
>This is of no impact on warfare
Zoomer hands have typed the complaint

>>2066075
Don't you have to set your monitor to 16-bit colour?

>>2059981 (OP)
There was only one way I found that you could game the system using politics.
>play as USA
>set consumer goods slider to 0
>wait half year until dissent is crazy high
>prepare for war event becomes available.
>become right wing
>recover stability
>meanwhile you’ve been mass parallel building IC
>build massive carrier fleet
>Pearl Harbor and invade the Japs by 1940
One of the best play throughs I’ve had

>>2068810
And from there it’s either invade the Soviet Union from the pacific and face Germany as the final boss, or vice versa.

>>2068554
>>2068557
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8MZBUoQt68

>>2069036
Stay mad, zoomer

>>2066075
Create a shortcut to the exe then apply these settings. You will need to adjust the screen height in the settings.txt file down to 1057 (or subtract 23 pixels from whatever your vertical resolution is) to accomodate the top window bar, otherwise the game may crash.

>>2068667
>>2069068
thank uuu!!!!

>>2069042
Now say that without crying.

>>2059981 (OP)
It was for future DLC probably, though hoi4 simplified it into nothing