Thread 2060314

rapesector update never ever

>>2060314 (OP)
Weird meme format desu

I am also in this thread.

What are some strong and fun fragment / threat builds?

>>2060323
scintillas with swarm launcher and 2 flash bomber wings

>>2060314 (OP)
Still too early you retarded nigger
Can't you fucking wait for the other thread to AT LEAST reach page 10 before making a new one

fucking dumbass

>>2060325
Anon, take your medicine or you're going to have a stroke again.

>>2060324
Thank you, I will check if this one can make me as moist as the shroud builds.

>>2060323
Neutron torpedo autoloader eradicator and swarm launcher onslaught

>>2060325
I could but I wanted to piss you off. Yes, you in particular. :)

>>2060263
>nigger killer drone battleship
>radiant of color
bruh

>>2060325
But if he isn't premature someone else might start a new thread and he won't be able to use his meme.

>all male characters are either evil, buttmmonkeys or suffer from pronouns
>females are strong independent women that show MC his place
Wow, is this the most woke game /v/ embraced?

>>2060385
I think you got the wrong door buddy. /v/ is two boards down.

>>2060388
/vst/ is just /v/ for more autistics

>>2060389
How about you get that jabroni ship out and we settle it right here in the ring?

>>2060324
What else you run with?

>>2060493
they can beat most enemies in the game on their own easily (pic related) but i usually use 2 paragons for frontline and i like to throw in the oldslaught vs dwellers and threat

>>2060385
jewish writer / character artist, please understand

>>2060385
if you point that out USC will call you Nazi

>>2060501
>not 1 but 2 paragons
gay a f. I bet you can't go 5 minutes without sucking dick

>>2060507
> jewish
Who? I thought alex is polish or something

>>2060756
>polish triple echo

>>2060756
You're replying to a shitpost

>>2060325
Page 8 is fine.

>>2060756
david. alex is a russian liberast living in the us.

>>2060767
Name a good character who is a white straight man in SS

>>2060771
Brother Cotton.

Keep it low tech or make it more mid?

>>2060773
Whem i first saw his name i thought he was going to be a blackie

>>2060838
Brainrot does that

>>2060773
I know lot's of people fawn over him for memes but he is a literal terrorist

I think that pirate fleet near the window has this one in the bag

>>2060846
Cool. So is almost everyone else including the player which is pretty much always responsible for drugs, weapons and organs trafficking, piracy, marauding, genocide, potentially indiscriminate serial rape and in addition to giving a planet killer to those same terrorists because they inconvenienced his profit margins.

Also how's that related to the original question?

>>2060856
The original question asked for a good character as in morally. Terrorist killing innocent people is not good.

>>2060793
Midline, and change the blue engine glow to yellow to match.

>>2060862
>The original question asked for a good character as in morally. Terrorist killing innocent people is not good.
Morality is subjective. So is innocence.

>>2060862
Was it really that? I think it was "good" as in interesting, compelling or cool.

>>2060868
>Morality is subjective
yeah yeah go groom some kids and fuck some goats you tranny mudslim

>>2060869
Well yeah if we're talking about jewish writing in the game I was wondering if there are any characters that aren't part of the death cult anti white men propaganda.

>>2060872
Death Cults are cool.

>>2060314 (OP)
Had a weird Mandela effect yesterday. I swear it used to be Kapetyn Starworks but now it's "Kapteyn". What the fugg. Am I retarded?

>>2060872
>yeah yeah go groom some kids and fuck some goats you tranny mudslim
You realise this is only supporting my point.
You may not like that there are people out there that don't share the same morales as you but, here's the funny thing, your inability to accept diversity in others places you below the majority, morally speaking.

is the modding scene still run by insane liberals

>>2060882
didn't read your bullshit, enjoy huffing your pseudointellectual farts you danner krugered retard

>>2060883
starsector modding scene as many others is a distributed system with no central authority. official forum and usc is niggered fagged and retarded, corvus and random gitguds are based

>>2060889
I just remember downloading a portrait collection that was labeled wrongthink because the guy didn't credit every artist or something
was a shit show
also heard about some of the modder intentionally making it so their mods didn't work with wrongthink mods
wish I still had my old mod list

>>2060894
Well I think crediting people that put in the work should be required. I found out that alex is a jewish cuck when I saw this.

>>2060862
>Name a good character who is a white straight man in SS
>here's one
>akshully
>actually what
>umh it's about morality
>no it's not
>...akshully... it's about horoscope
No buddy I think this is about you being a little attentionwhoring baitbitch. I answered in good faith but unfortunately you yourself are neither white nor straight. Sad.

>the dev's self insert
>l33t hacker with tumblr hair
>strong independent "womyn" that shits on main character on every opportunity
holy kek

>>2060889
Congratulations, you've been triggered by your own ignorance and bigotry.

>>2060944
>Well I think crediting people that put in the work should be required
Cringe
I'd shove you into a locker irl

>>2061119
>everything in life can be solved by gay wrestling
based gachimuchi anon

Holy shit the Gods litter from one of the mods are fun as fuck. It keeps ramming suicidally into other ships

>>2061091
*tips fedora*

Is nexerilen + a ton of faction mods still the way to go? Been years since I played

>>2061274
You may also grab Industrial Evolution and Second in Command if you like what you see. Should probably go through vanilla one and experience the horrors of the abyss first before mods

>>2061285
>Should probably go through vanilla one and experience the horrors of the abyss
oh duh good call
been ages so there's a bunch of vanilla stuff I haven't experienced yet
I'll check those two out on the playthrough after, thanks brother

>>2061285
Let's stop pretending as if there are any content in abyss

>>2060985
> me not understanding context is other people's fault
thanks for you ted talk

>>2061055
it's not even supposed to be a dyke or selfinsert apparently. I think i saw a post about dev adding this creature after "positive experience with nonbinary folk" or some retarded shit like this.

>>2061091
> I'm so heckin smart and wholesome not like those stupid redneck hillbily cracker bigots

On less /pol things, I finally grinded out of hostilities with Approlight. What the fuck are these names?

>>2061316
Let's stop pretending as if there are any good faction mods

>>2061317
The dev can claim whatever he wishes but it doesn't change the fact he is hiring ladyboys and asking them to call him gargoyle as he gets pegged

>>2061327
based dev

>>2061274
nex feels very awkward these days

>>2061324
I recall really liking the roman one with the tan-colored ships and the overdrive mechanic

>>2061370
really? I remember it being just straight up vanilla+ with more faction interactions and shit
what's wrong with it

>>2061376
>really? I remember it being just straight up vanilla+ with more faction interactions and shit
what's wrong with it
Bloat, and not just a little bit, it's bloated with so many 'features' that the best way to play with nex is to spend the best part of an hour re-configuring the settings before you start your first game with it. At one point there was a few alternative modSettings.json available depending on what sort of experience you wanted but they user who created them was actually banned from the discord for complaining about feature creep, and nowadays if you even have the nerve ask about them you're given a warning. Because playing nex without the bloat isn't the intention.

Size 2 colonies exist? Oh well.

>>2061440
I guess the ban happened on usc which is a shithole so who cares. I think features are fine, they are tucked all neatly behind menus that I just never click.

gay gay go away

>>2061440
>Bloat, and not just a little bit, it's bloated with so many 'features' that the best way to play with nex is to spend the best part of an hour re-configuring the settings before you start your first game with it.
sad, I don't remember doing any of that shit but it's been like 5 years
>At one point there was a few alternative modSettings.json available depending on what sort of experience you wanted but they user who created them was actually banned from the discord for complaining about feature creep, and nowadays if you even have the nerve ask about them you're given a warning.
christ
well thanks for the heads up

>>2061468
you could always try signing up for electroshock therapy

>>2061471
you must be a riot on your discord

>>2061475
you must be hooked up to a 12v battery

LUDD HATES FAGS

That's why luddites constantly buttsex ships with raper torPedos?

What mod adds this dialogue option to pirate fleets? It never does anything, selecting it just repeats Blaaa over and over.

>top speed 252
>peak perfomance 36 seconds

>>2061565
> cd ~/starsector/mods
> grep -ir select\ cargo\ to\ surrender

>>2061565
That's actually vanilla rule dialog for pirates but its disabled by default. What mods do you have that are pirate-centric?

Seriously though, what is Ludd's policy on gays

>>2061738
>Planet killer policy
Ludd needs a surprising amount of fuel for such an agrarian system.

Seriously though, what is Dictat policy on furries

>>2061738
They are space muslims so it is on as long as you don't get caught.

>>2061742
Ding dong saturation bomb

>>2061744
>space muslims
>females in clergy
>not even in burkas
you wot

>>2061745
based scaly foot fetishist

>>2061742
Ding dong mating press

what do the soothsayers say about the next patch

>>2061759
understandable
alex remind me in one year

>>2061753
It will be underwhelming as usual

>>2061770
And yet you'll still enjoy it.

now that the dust has settled what do you niggers really think about anubis?

>>2061783
I no longer play or enjoy vidya. I am only here for shit talking

>>2061788
Filtered that hard huh?

>>2061788
>vidya incel
lel

>>2061788
>>2061797
Based

How do I build paragon? Do I put a Shield shunt on it?

>>2061897
Yes, shield shunt, heavy armor, ballistic rangefinder and expanded missile racks.

>>2061919
Should I get unstable injectors to maximize its ramming speed?

Do you guys use the ai tweaks mod?

>>2061972
mods are cheating

>>2061986
No, mods that are pure upside are cheating.

Got my first dominator. Just stuck whatever on her.

>>2061997
Hell yeah dude
Luv me dominator

I myself am an enforcer guy

>>2061737
>pirate-centric
Just Underworld. As far as mods I've added recently, there's Seeker and KoC.

>>2061993
t. cheater

Giant Crab Mecha

>>2062085
Surprisingly viable as well, that

>>2061565
i think that's from koc

>>2061924
No just put a lot of frigates behind it to bump it ahead like a football into enemies.

>>2061993
I agree speedup is cheating

>>2062152
nta and I get you're taking the piss but it unironically can be. One of the rebindable bullettimes in combat is not only a speedup for everyone involved but also free unlimited togglable temporal shell that affects only your ship and stacks with real ts and or phase anchor.

>nigga you dumb x2 speed is x2 as fast
Yes. But it shouldn't vent or reload say x8. Or much, much faster than x2 with pa or ts.

Is there a 0.98a DME upload without HM's gayfaggotaids?

>>2062218
Is there a starsector thread without your gayfaggotaids?

>>2062218
>gayfaggotaids
what are you talking about?
Corvus has sorenverse of which DME is a part of

You guys should really daisy chain your video game playthroughs. It's really made mine worthwhile.

>started out playing Terraria, as an adventurer who crash landed on the planet and now has to beat the moon lord to escape
>beat him, use his carcass to power my ship
>go into place and start playing FTL
>help the feds defeat the Rebels
>take the flagship as my own, start playing Starsector with a Star Fed commission and a Flagship start

It's something else man. Peak immersion.

>>2062258
And now this autist's back. This thread is the same every time.

>>2062264
Geez, who sat bombed your Freeport?

>>2060314 (OP)
me when i finally into colonies

>>2060862
>innocent people
>starsector
Are we playing the same game?

>>2062278
>this lone orphan once walked the street without signaling, EVERYONE NEEDS TO BE SAT BOMBED

>>2060872
nooo you don't understand, if morality isn't subjective i look like an absolute fucking psychopath

>>2062017
I lost it. Fighting the smallest easiest bounty. Fuck.

>>2062369
i use enforcers as comic relief
i've never seen them be useful in any fight above seal clubbing difficulty

>>2051804
where's the porn of this self insert slut?

>>2061742
>Seriously though, what is Dictat policy on furries
The Lion of Sindria only mates with the most Feral of Beasts

none of those disgusting athro freaks you're posting

my biggest complaint of these faction mods so far is the faction music being completely out of place

>>2062424
which faction music sounds out of place to you?

>>2061737
>That's actually vanilla rule dialog for pirates but its disabled by default
NTA but why the fuck would Alex ever disable it
>literal religious fanatics will let you off the hook for money
>the organised criminals who sell stolen cargo will rape and murder you instead of prioritising their cash flow

Is there a way to disable all operative actions in Nex? I wish we had a way to leave only the QoL features and bin all the pretend 4X shit.

>>2062551
Makes sense. I'd rape and murder you over prioritising my cash flow.

>disable it
iirc it's a holdout from when you only had the one system and never updated.

>>2062554
Yes but it's not as simple as toggle on off.

>>2062549
iron shell and diable avionics so far

>>2061972
its good but sometimes its too good
like AI can shoot launching torpedoes with easy

>>2061972
Not really. I'm not big on having my omnis automated and autoaim is already pretty good in vanilla for weapons I used it on. And I don't really care for broadside AI fits and that's the biggest improvement I noticed.

Damn I forgot this game is actually difficult. Last time I played(like 4 years ago) I had a couple colonies up and there was basically nothing to challenge me. Early game is pretty fun.

>>2062591
Yes, it can be. Unfortunately not that much left to challenge you when you get the ball rolling.

>>2062579
>its good but sometimes its too good
Pretty much.

>>2060385
the writing got taken over by the artist (who, as you can probably tell by his portraits, has extremely strong views in a certain direction) when the original writer who built the setting died. after that the game became much more narratively focused despite the writing being atrocious

>>2062591
>Early game is pretty fun.
scarcity is fun, progression in ss is just bad

>>2062617
>the game became much more narratively focused
what a waste

>>2062617
yep

>>2062617
>>2062621
1 side quest every two years is hardly "narratively focused"

>>2062617
gargoyle has to have some of the most grating dialogue in the game and I get the feeling that wasn't intentional

>>2062632
Isn't xyr basically just your average discord user?

>>2062626
The game itself updates glacially so that's not really relevant. The reason they didn't want to add much politics and empire building beyond the colony system is because if you start capturing systems and destroying factions it ruins the game state for the EPIC writing

>>2062690
Kinda funny how kuntas pig hovel is supposed to be something impressive when you're commanding fleets of capitals and own multiple super productive planets with every single one having similar speess fortresses n shit.

my xey/xhem character will be immortal....

>David wanted male player character to be gay with Jethro
It's actually over

I have a question for you Anons.
So one guy said the mod faction musics are out of place. I do agree but it made me think about the music in general.
It really kinda sucks. It doesn't need to be some great shit or anything however, there does need to be differences. I unpacked the sound files and went through them and alot of them have very little differences. Mayasura Navy for example has very different music for if you are enemies or allies. The Cabal's music is one of the hardest hitting tracks of any mods. Meanwhile the Luddic church has 9 different songs with them and I bet most people didn't realize they had that many due to how similar they are. There are differences primarily with some shifting and adding a single extra thing like a bell or strings.

I feel the goal of subtlety should be set aside for these songs. We get such little feedback for our actions and aside from the change of the single Faction text box. We allegely are known by the Space Pope and Space Clergy to the point of being venerated as a living saint but all that changes are strings. We know the faith and make the signs and prayers and just strings.

This goes for all factions mind you. We really should have more differences between the Rep musics. When I touch down and I'm just a retard to sell slop too on Cullan I should have different music than when they're rolling out the red carpet because they know I'm their best damn customer. When I have a Hegemony Commission and I'm literally one of the Admirals holding the line of the Domain why do I get the same shitty track? The music for the game is inadequate. Free uses music would be better now.

Modders need to reduce their sound file formats or something. I don't know if it's a modding/java issue or the fact they are just incompetent but using Mayasura navy again it's sound files where the largest part of that mod wen I used it. I couldn't interact with their markets due to it overloading my memory once on lower specs.

>>2062762
Fucking mayasura music is a warcime. Worse than holobunga.

Name some mods that arent bloat and actually make the game better

>>2062617
>(who, as you can probably tell by his portraits
the portraits are so fucking ugly i have no idea how anyone could play without modding them out

>>2062834
the pather girl with fluffy hair is cute

>>2062841
Path is both die beste and objectively the most virtuous. You WILL impregnate la mulatta and YOU WILL be happy. Rite and das,

>>2062690
>citation needed

>>2062762
Too long. Didn't read. Get meds.

>>2062859
> got meds
fixed

>>2062828
Unknown skies, Illustrated entities, marvelous personas and other portrait eye-candy mods.
Some stuff looks so good.

>>2062904
Nope all bloat that dont add anything good

>>2062369
>>2062410
Eradicators is where its at. Those things are beasts.

>>2062961
>baby's first cruiser
cute

>>2061274
Lot's of faction mods has never been the way to go.

>>2062970
They work perfectly before the end-end game where you get to minmax everything. Not a single flaw on these things all things considered.

>>2062971
Faction mods on Nex don't really matter because everyone loves confining their donut stelles to a single uber system far away from everything else.

>>2062970
NTA but i like them
I like dakka, I see dakka cruiser that go fast I like

>>2062369
Hold on a second how did your atlus get destroyed?

>>2062828
Lobster cruiser, bigbeans ship & weapon pack, mayasuran navy, second in command, and combat logs.

>>2063009
>mayasuran navy
Now THAT'S some prime bloat!

>>2062699
Colonies don't really work with the context of being a fleet captain. Would be better to run with smaller outposts or settlements that do not compete on size and instead can offer more exotic materials or production.

>hvds and maulers
>>not 7 oldsluts
this nigga for real?

>>2060404
>Paragon v. Executor
>Executor rapes your shields with missiles and medium weapons
>Rapes everything else with tac lances
That hole doesn't look like it will fit it. But it does

All these Executors make me want to start a Lion's Guard playthrough.

How many updates until Alex decides that the Threat aren't an uber special secret enemy anymore and adds them to the simulator?

>>2061285
>Second in Command

>>2061440
>Because playing nex without the bloat isn't the intention.
imagine blatantly lying about shit like this when they quite literally have several pages of lunalib settings to disable all the shit you dont want so you can even do it ingame instead of using settings.json

>>2062971
lots of faction mods with nexerelin has always been the way to go since the base game is barren as fuck

>>2062762
i play with music disabled

>>2063388
Need a mod to make the map bigger too

>>2063386
>Complaining about feature creep and circulating a config file with most of the bloat disabled gets you banned from the discord
You might have a point it wasn't for his last point.

>>2063045
That is like... worth a third of the ammo capacity of an afflictor in a fight

>>2063473
yeah it was surely the config that got him banned and not being an insufferable cunt like it always ends up being with these things

>>2063446
adjusted sector is my go to

>>2061055
I thought he was a man

>>2063556
>assumed xir gender
Reported to the thought police.

He is not referred using 3rd gender pronouns in game and is considered binary. The dev still lacks the backbone to call him "xim/it" or whatever though, maybe the next update

>>2063561
Man, fuck gargoyle I'm still tilted over picking captain because I figured it sounded cool and getting referred as sister once or twice afterwards. lol.

how do i make galactic constelate ships work like the black ones always seem to get killed

>>2061317
fomalhaut kinda sounds like vorhaut which is the german word for foreskin

>>2062591
>>2062596
>not playing the game for the big explosions

>>2063605
heh

>>2063621
I prefer putting a squal and pilum on the starboard, and plasma cannons portside.

>>2063529
you sound like an insufferable cunt

>>2063626
Neat. I prefer watching anything explode instantly.

Saw this thread while browsing and instantly felt a need to play the game.
Then I remembered how fucking awful starting a new game is and decided not to.
Thanks for reading my blogpost.

>>2063651
*rapes*

>>2063651
early game is the best part it gets way shittier after

>>2063670
Early game after you get yourself set up a bit, yes, but the very start is complete ass.

>>2063670
This. Pre or even better no colony surveying and cobbling a fleet together is where it's at. That anon is a shitter.

the real game begins when you have enough blueprints to try whatever fucking build you want

The real game begins when you want to off yourself because you have to jump back and forth to defend your colonies like you're playing a fucking bethesda game.

well all you need is one planet with no atmosphere and extreme heat and both metals and one habitable world with farmland and organics and maybe a volatiles gas planet if planet one doesnt have one and you are good to go, everything else is just a cherry on top.

I can't into this game bro the fucking enemy fleets are always better and I can't make good builds. When I look into other people playing they always beeline into something that looks like a meme build that just spams 1 thing, what the fuck is this game nigga

the real dark souls begins here

>>2063718
it's starsector formerly known as starfarer

>>2063702
>not one super system
skill issue

>>2063723
I'm going to rape you

>>2063725
why

>>2063728
I know you want to

>>2063731
if I wanted to I would have said yes not why

>>2063733
yes and why aren't mutually exclusive thoughbeit

>>2063725
I'll be your huckleberry

>>2063734
if rape means discussing midline ship builts I'm all for it.

what's your favourite peakline ship
For me it's the Eagle. I like the Eagle.

>>2063736
ok, start

>>2063651
Get a large cargo ship and haul cheap drugs out of magec for a few times, and your early game is over

>>2063737
tf is peakline? can't you zoomerfucks talk normally?

>>2063738
the eagle

>>2063718
Nigga you bad

>>2063741
maybe we should discuss hairlines then, I'm sure you would understand

>>2063743
Exactly

>>2063737
Meh. Midline is too middling to seriously use. Champ or birb for AI chumps and probably a fast pegasus or exec for me.

>>2062970
*1v1s your piloted aurora*

>>2062617
>original writer died
>strong opinions
>makes the church quest
uuuh are you hallucinating

The trick to gitting gud is piloting an afflictor.

>>2063757
>being able to handle a phase ship
Already better than 90% of the people that play this game

>>2063749
Only one? Tell you hwat, I'll downgrade to medusa to give you some hope.

>>2063757
>k to gitting gud is
playing without flagships

>>2062369
they served their function. they are sturdy bricks mean to run straight into the battleline and spend a ridiculous amount of time dying

phase invictus

>>2063718
>I can't into this game bro the fucking enemy fleets are always better and I can't make good builds.
All ridicule aside, the game is coded that objective fleets spawn with a higher DP of combat ships and this difference scales based on the players level. Its a fundamental problem with the game, fortunately once you figure out ship builds it doesn't make much of a difference because the AIs builds are notoriously shit.

>>2063808
>once you figure out ship builds
Well, I'm all ears

>>2063813
Post ears

>>2063813
Either slap SO on everything and use your brian moran or loot at that eradicator picture few posts up.

>>2063813
onslaughts
frontal autocannons, a couple side facing flak guns, annihilator rocket pods
hullmods that increase armor, hull and module durability
full assault

nothing unbalanced to see here

>>2063815
>>2063817
>>2063821
So I have to beeline for a meme build that spams 1 thing.. Why can't you just make it work only with the random ships you'll get when restoring or buying?

>>2063788
nigga thats the zigg

>>2063823
most ships do one thing because a ship doing more than one thing usually means it does multiple things poorly
most ships can be used in default configuration to kill comparable fleets
some ships are good
some ships are bad
your fleet will need to be optimized if you want to kill fleets that have higher quality and quantity than yours

>>2063813
You stick a bunch of tactical lasers on a paragon maximized for laser range and perpetually fire them at enemies, forcing them to keep their shields up while your frigates and destroyers rape them until they overload and die.

>>2063822
>5 s-mods
you cheater!

>>2063836
why it has to be the paragon doe
why aren't other capital ships viable doe
what if I won't use a capital ship doe

is every playthrough just rushing for your paragon build and that's it? at this point why not remove the bloat ships if they're not going to be used anyway

>>2063850
trust me the 3 extra dp points they give make them really balanced

>>2063852
Because evolution is real

>>2063823
You don't have to beeline for anything and you don't have to spam one ship. But that's usually retardproof since the alternative requires getting good.

>>2063857
I'm asking to reach the alternative

Any advice for a new player? Still getting a hang of the combat but it's fun, just finished the first couple tutorial missions and hunted down all the pirates in the two starting systems
Playing without mods right now

>>2063869
Go to whichever faction you want to get goodies from/side with and do missions for their people in bars.
Eventually you can get a permanent contact and really good missions and opportunities from them.

>>2063869
Don't do commissions. They provide a safety net and you want to learn how to earn and survive on your own. Survey. Beat up on pirates. Follow the galatea academy story to unlock some toys. Experiment with your loadouts until something clicks, and then make it better. Few weapons are useless but you want to prioritize kinetics over HE and you don't want to over depend on limited resources such as missiles or bombers.

>>2063921
wait galatea academy story? Shit was I supposed to visit there? nothing in my intel log about it so I just flew off after a pirate bounty

>>2063934
It doesn't have an expiration date.

>>2063934
It is the main questline anon where you do jobs as the errand boy for a granny and a tranny (kek) while they keep asking you to check your privilege.

>>2063964
True but it unlocks some useful abilities. And the basedboy in that academy gives you repeating quests that is an easy source of income

>>2063977
I was just sent to Corvus to tell some hegemony guy that the starting system wasn't cut off anymore, then that guy told me to go do whatever I wanted
got to keep this ai core which I thought was illegal so that's neat

>>2063977
>True but it unlocks some useful abilities
It also unlock the ability to turn any civilized planet in the sector in to a barren wasteland.

>>2063869
>Don't do commissions.
Alternatively, get a commission and start a colony in a factions home system under their protection. When it's sufficiently grown retire your commission. Go hostile. watch their markets crash as their trade routes collapse. Collect the loot from their destroyed convoys. Sell that loot to their failing markets for atrocious credits. Or don't, and watch their planets collapse in to anarchy.

>>2064024
It unlocks very useful/almost cheat transverse jump and a few less useful abilities. There is also some unique loot in those missions and the last part is very useful

>>2064032
You can transverse without galatea. To the best of my knowledge you can't teleport around or get ziggy without it.

>>2064024
>Alternatively
That's more for when you have a solid grasp of how the game works and you just want to skip the setup phase and fuck around on your new game+ imho.

Woman

>>2063773
you sure you got enough weapos on that shit? could fit another 2 heavy blasters easily and pull some sick drift moves

>>2063934
im pretty sure the game gives you a bar event telling you to go there at some point if you didnt already

>>2064095
Positive. It's not as good as it was pre all the nerfs but it'll still obliterate most things with very little effort required.

>>2064116
I'm the opposite of this.
>Play Vanilla and roll A.I.
>Get Nex Win Screen after dismantling multiple Factions
>Play with Faction Mods
>Look at stuff
>WTF is all this stuff
>"Like vanilla weapon but different"
>"Like Vanilla ship but different"
>"Blantant shit"
>"Totally OP"
>"This gimmick that gimmick"

Now I only use things that actually make some meaningful change.

Big anime titties are not a meaningful change.
>I can make my own portraits.
Adding one cool ship isn't a meaningful change.
>I can have a power armored thig steal it.

LoA roaming and raiding, Underworld buffing the pirates and adding the Cabal, No Such Org being 100% phase ships and reckless officers, Pilotable Strikecraft(Where is Quartefols mods)

>>2064247
>Big anime titties are not a meaningful change
You shut your mouth!

>>2064247
>Play Vanilla
>Get Nex Win Screen
hmm

>>2064247
>Big anime titties are not a meaningful change.
I expected faggotry from a nitendofurfag and you didn't disapoint.

Member Shadowyards? Member Mayorate?

>>2063634
You got banned for being a fat cunt, didn't you?

>>2064379
You got fat from being banned by a cunt, didn't you?

>>2061055
>>2061317
this can't be real, i refuse to believe this shit is real! haven't played sissysector in like a year, did it have any good update? last time i played, they added that story phase capital ship.

>>2064430
>did it have any good update
lol

>>2064430
Yeah, Afflictor is nerfed like 5 times (still the best ship).

>>2064302
>Shadowyards
There's a 0.98-compatible version in the thread.
https://fractalsoftworks.com/forum/index.php?topic=3491.msg475595#msg475595

>>2064438
lmao afflictorchads just stay winning. wonderfully fun ship to play with.

>>2060793
Hello again one of kitbash anons, how it's going?

>>2063267
I hope that Luddite pather decides to retcon the XIV Legion

can I join the space terrorists?

>>2064463
no
but you can convince them to stop trying to kill you most of the time

>>2064488
damn
are my options for getting their ships limited to recovering them from battle?

>>2063180
I'm copying this build

>>2064493
you can rock up to their planets or stations and see what's for sale. this is easier if you have good relations
you can acquire their ship blueprints in ancient abandoned ruins(don't ask) and produce them if you set up a colony with a ship building industry
you can meet weapons dealers in bars that may be able to acquire their ships for you

Ayo wanna hear a joke? Pulse lasers lMAO!

>>2064534
funny! they are so fucking trash.

>have a tendie friend who refuses to touch this game because it's not on the Switch 2
>he also hates the game for having a modding scene because "mods go against the original vision"
>but oddly enough, he has no problem with the modders or the drama, and would actually pay for gay mods like UAF if it was being sold on the eshop

>>2064561
why is this your friend

>>2064564
He's not anymore, if you want me to be honest. He's suffering from brainrot because all he can think about is sales and popularity metrics. Hence why I brought up UAF. He's a moron who thinks that more popularity = more gooder, so even if he played with mods, he'd completely ignore good mods if they weren't popular, and would go right for the normalfag mods that have tons of upvotes on r*ddit.

>>2064561
For a second I thought that SS runs fine on linux and then realized that switch isn't a steam deck

>>2064561
>because "mods go against the original vision"
how on earth does he reconcile this with the game being built from the ground up with extensive modding support and an enthusiastic and supportive developer?

>>2064593
He thinks the game shouldn't have mod support because "only bad games need mods".

Whats the actual point of nex? The whole colony management minigame and late game in general is complete shit I dont see why anyone would want more of that crap

what's the mod that increase your level higher than 15?

>>2064633
Factions fighting each other and actually dying

>>2064643
Line 739 in data/config/settings.json

>>2064647
thanks anon, though i think the experience is going to be a bit slow.

>>2064651
Line 748 in data/config/settings.json

>>2064653
thanks king, i can work with this.

>>2064561
>>2064593
>>2064597
He sounds like your average anti-modding Japanese moralfag

>>2064561
Your friend is not a human being. You are also a retard for being 'friends' with that automaton.

>>2064662
>You are also a retard for being 'friends' with that automaton.
Fair point.

>>2064659
Yeah, for some reason alot of people are turning against modding and romhacking these days. Like they get offended on the company's behalf that someone modifies their artistic vision.

Like it's one thing if the game is broken trash and it needs mods just to function, because obviously that encourages laziness. But there's no harm in enjoying some mods on the side.

>>2064561
>>against the original vision
>dev is a space autist
>is into gaming
>wakes up one day
>uh it would be cool to have a space game
insane vision

>>2064633
i play with nex and dont even settle colonies
the vanilla "war" between factions is such lame garbage that it really destroys my interest in the game because it is just a sandbox that does not change at all without your input

>start game going for onslaughts
>kill everything
>use anything else
>fail against any enemy that isn't basic human ships, explorarium drones or omega

>>2064664
>Yeah, for some reason alot of people are turning against modding and romhacking these days. Like they get offended on the company's behalf that someone modifies their artistic vision.
It's not just vidya, >t. fa/tg/uy. It's real fucking bad in TTRPGs, if you're doing something that daddy Hasbro doesn't approve of, like playing something other than D&D, expect some faggot to sneed about how you're doing the hobby wrong.

what's up with the hate on smuggling and asking to nerf it to the ground

>>2064730
>>2064664
i also love modding my genitalia and talking about it on my fav discord

>>2064780
>t. has a chain running from his scrotum to his urethra.

>>2063751
>>original writer died
yes, it was a bulgarian guy who died of cancer
>>strong opinions
yes?
>>makes the church quest
have you read his retrospective on it?

>>2064780
>pic
By God. This nigga lookin' ZESTY, this nigga lookin' MOIST, he's got sugar in his tank, he's light on his feet, he's a Ill bit fruity, he plays for the other team, he dances at the other end of the ballroom, this nigga theatrical, this nigga good with colors, this nigga gonna coordinate yo curtains wit you cushions and that shit gonna look good! This nigga lifts shirts, this nigga on the down low, this nigga be a tollet trader, this nigga gardens uphill, this nigga packs fudge, he's a friend of Dorothy, he feels the love that dare not speak Its name, he loves to dance, he's of the Uranian brotherhood, he indulges in the French vice, he has an antipathic sexual Instinct, he's fluent in Polari, he's a refugee from Sodom, he's on the wrong bus, he bats for the other team, he's temperamental, he's 'one off' if you catch my drift.

>>2064786
>>2064781
hot

>>2064786
kek whats the original video

>>2064764
just a bunch of retards confusing tedium for difficulty trying to make the game even slower for no reason

>>2064764
It is almost 0 risk and the most efficient way to make money except perhaps owning a very profitable system

I wouldn't say it needs nerfing but the mission, especially the bounty ones, need to pay more.

>>2064874
>mission, especially the bounty ones, need to pay more
No they don't. String a couple of regular ones that are nearby and you'll get half a mil+ for 5 minutes of piss easy work. That's in addition to ships, weapons and other material.
System bounties are less valuable but can net you a lot of cash fast if there are both pirates and a second hostile faction nearby.

If anything smuggling without intentionally destabilizing the local supply is pocket change.

>>2064874
>especially the bounty ones, need to pay more
I agree with this. Smuggling should make a good amount of money precisely because it's tedious and you're not gaining anything other than money. Exploring can make a bit less money than smuggling because you're also discovering useful things on top. Bounties should pay the most since it's the one where you have to risk your fleet the most. If smuggling was the thing that paid the least then there would be no point in doing it at all since it's low effort and everything else would pay more and give you useful stuff

>>2064886
Going to magec and buying cheap kanta drugs and other stuff and selling them also makes a few hundreds and is trivial. When a bounty mission sends you to the other side of the galaxy then you need to take fuel and supplies into account and at that point it isn't really worth it imo.

I do bounties if they are on my way or if there is a good looking ship but otherwise I don't really chase them

>>2064899
Your salvage rigs? And in vanilla at least bounties spawn more often than not on the eastern fringe of core. If you're extra lucky there's a high danger system or two nearby for unlimited supplies and core trafficking.
But yeah, money really isn't an issue.

>>2064783
>have you read his retrospective on it?
he literally said "i'm doing a disservice to this faction, i better fix that" and did exactly that.

i personally think the luddic church quests are perfectly fine
they don't try to epically subvert, as you might expect from a chosenite

>>2064918
If anything the Luddics sound like the one faction in the setting who is paying attention to the correct problems.

Can you get lion's guard stuff in vanilla?

>>2064936
Yes.

>>2064936
How did you manage to bypass the captcha with your level of lazy retardation?

>>2064957
I googled how to solve it

>>2064960
We all know you looted a spermbank and bought premium pass.

>>2064969
to be fair I saw contradictory answers on r*ddit, with one guy saying you can't get them in vanilla

>>2064972
You can't get their blueprints but you can lather yourself in vaseline and pound lionguard patrols until their anuses are sufficiently gaped and you have enough ships and niggacannons for your needs. Also coincidentally my favorite activity at the start of the game.

goddamn
automated ships skill fucking blows, you can only take a single capital of DP before almost dipping below 40% cr

I have no idea what I'm doing but the game is pretty fun. Only small missiles I've found so far that I like are these swarmers. Chainguns feel good too.

>>2064975
Darn I was gonna work for them

>>2065026
>Swarmers
That's how you know you're still in the early game. As you start facing harder dudes, you'll find yourself reaching for the torpedoes.

>>2065026
That poor, poor hammerhead... You fucking monster. And fyi, you can square away anything with enough cores sold to their faction. Genocide included.

>>2060385
my NIGGA sebestyen is literally the only genuine good guy and bro in the entire game
unless they changed something in an update and i didn't know

>>2065037
You only say that because you're a thirsty homo

>>2064455
You can actually farm the XIV Legion in game. The Hegemony does spawn them in large numbers. But only from Coatl for some reasons. And you need to beat their Onslaught fleet first before the Legion fleet starts spawning

>>2065047
>crappier version of a crap ship
why would you want to

>>2065037
bro...
he literally troons out

>entire fleet of wolves with ion pulsers and ion canons

kino

Any portrait full replacement mods? Any good ones? I don't like everyone looking like a potato.

>>2065074
Why are you antisemitic?

>>2065074
https://fractalsoftworks.com/forum/index.php?topic=28530.0

its outdated but it works just change the version number in the mod file

>>2065077
Because the opposite is being pro-semitic

>>2065074
yes

>>2065102
What a piece of shit portrait, the tits only take up a quarter of the image.

>>2065037
He is made of literal sõy

>>2065104
can i offer you a duck in these trying times?

>>2065122
Fuck off

>>2065025
you need adjusted skill thresholds to remove all the retarded limits on skills
its like alex designed the game like shit on purpose

>>2065140
Give him a decade or two. He's gonna rework the skill system at some point. Again.

>>2065130
Why do beaker ducks occupy just 10% of Orlanthi space but take up nearly 80% of the space in Orlanthi prisons?

>>2065025
No you suck. Read carefully and you'll notice multiple different ways to either raise CR or reduce DP on ships and field far more than that.

>>2065140
>just cheat bro
The mating cry of someone shit at the game.

>>2065160
The only options are to use lesser cores (because it just makes sense, okay?) and use crew training (because the ai benefits from it, okay?).
If you think this is intuitive or makes any intuitive sense you need to take alex's cock out your gullet, because he will inevitably redesign this a few years from now.

>>2065169
You have no idea what you're talking about. And that's funny since most of these mechanics have been around since DP was initially introduced years ago. Remnants are just regular ships with a slight twist anyway.
Now, since you're being a little bitch instead of asking nicely you're going to have to say please for me to spoonfeed you. Or just stay a clueless rat for all I care.

Secrets of the frontier is a cheatmod

>>2065080
well if you gonna use AI then why wouldn't you just generate them yourself in any style you want
>ghibli portraits

>>2065169
just get support doctrine and don't use any cores

>>>2065169
>You have no idea what you're talking about. And that's funny since most of these mechanics have been around since DP was initially introduced years ago. Remnants are just regular ships with a slight twist anyway.
>Now, since you're being a little bitch instead of asking nicely you're going to have to say please for me to spoonfeed you. Or just stay a clueless rat for all I care.

>>2065184
How that is even supposed to work. Do you have a bunch of jeets somewhere with joysticks and cameras controlling your robots or hwat.

>>2065189
yeah, you weld underpaid jeets into remnant warships and send them into battle

>>2065194
Aside from the remnant part, that's how everything in Starsector works.

>>2065194
saars doing the redeemful with ai devices
a bone chilling prediction of the future

>>2065199
one way or another there are no people manning those ships

>>2065189
If this were a hullmod, turning ships into unmanned remote controlled vehicles with random jeets from Chalcedon in a shuttle operating it, what bonuses would it provide?

>>2065188
>smile
>not dying from cigarettes
I fucking wish lol. That said I accept (You)r capitulation.

>>2065180
>generate them yourself in any style you want
because someone did the work for me
the game has a lot of goddamn portraits

>>2065212
-25% CR, but it replenishes to full after every battle because you get to redeem

>>2064780
>>2064786
Dis nigga lookin so zesty that his security codes never expire.

>>2063822
>unironically using disgusting mortars
>ever
disgusting

>>2065314
this thing dies to kites with reapers

skill issue

>>2062961
I like ventures. Nice and spammable, easy to get, good weapons, good arcs and reasonable stats.

>>2065316
it dies to a fucking TARSUS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTih5_RyqqY

>>2065026
>Assault Chainguns and Swarmers
Replace the Swarmers with Sabot SRMs and install Safety Override
>>2065065
With Wolfpack Tactics

>>2065074
Pick your poison
>Furfag portrait pack
>Anime portrait pack
>AI slop portrait pack
>>2065033
He should have went with SO Hammerhead build though
My favorite one is the Chaingun/Sabot combo SO build

>>2065354
>Safety Override
Well this just got a lot more fun, good looking out

>>2065388
Yeah. If he at least put on a couple of railguns and better missiles. Maybe escort package. What the hell is that thing supposed to do other than bully derelicts with basically no anti shield.

>>2065398
>What the hell is that thing supposed to do other than bully derelicts with basically no anti shield.
that's exactly what I was doing
most of the pirates I was fighting didn't even have shields
anyway I ambushed some persian merc convoy and got like 700 heavy armaments so I bought couple more ships
got a pair of sunders and an eagle

>>2065401
I said as much but those really don't need tailored fits to bully. And you sure as hell don't need that much HE unless you're hunting a fleet of like exclusievly invictus. invictuses? invicti? Fuck it, you know what I mean. Also for the love of ludd swap those swarmers to something less crap.

>>2065408
Brother I have no idea what I'm doing it's my first time playing; I've said as much earlier
>but those really don't need tailored fits to bully.
allow me to run you through my thought process
>hm yes I am 30 minutes into the game I will put some weapons on this ship, this looks cool
I swapped to sabots on the other anon's suggestion

>>2065409
I'm not shitting on you dude. But I'm telling you that much HE is going to hit like a wet noodle against anything with shields. Just get into habit of using similar or ideally equal range weapons and then put mods that compliment that. ITU with knifefighting weapons won't do as much as faster engines to get into range or better shields and more caps to survive better. And ask yourself can that build beat shields*. Especially for AI ships. You'll thank me down the line for getting into that habit.

Some ships are fast enough to push past or can phase and attack from behind but you always want some reliable kinetics or at least energy to deal with em. A HvyMG over one of the chainguns for example would fit that HH pretty nicely. Or a mauler and a high velocity driver if you're set on making it long range.

>>2065389
eventually it will stop working so you should also learn to play the game instead of retard smashing with safety overrides

>>2065388
AI furry anime portrait pack

My favorite thing about buying ships from illegal arms dealer is being hounded by Tri-Tachyon security floatilla who proceeded to give me credits in return for information about the arms dealer I bought ships from them while this playing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQMS5-Q1QOY

Do any faction mods actually integrate with the colony crisis system? Or do they all just assume that you're playing Nexerelin uber map painter instead

>>2065496
Adversary is the only one I know of that even has a colony crisis. I haven't experienced it myself though.

>>2065498
Funny how they always die in my playthrough because everyone instantly gangbangs them.

>we're instantly hated by every single faction because we're so op
>OH NO WE'RE GETTING ALL OUR HOLES REAMED

>>2065102
>>2065122
Would.

>>2065501
I think that's highly dependent on your specific settings for nexerelin. With my settings when the factions try to send an invasion in to their special snowflake system it's soundly defeated.

>>2065581
Never really tinkered with my nexerelin settings, and I had to uninstall Adversary because it made every playthrough too easy. Imagine this:

>start out the game with a supply ship, a tug and maybe a gas ship
>cruise around
>suddenly Tri-tach sends a 10 fleet invasion force to attack the adversary
>followed by the Hegemony
>followed by the Persean League
>followed by any number of mod factions
>go to the system while everyone is duking it out
>find 500,000 supplies just floating around in salvage
>find 4 Atlases and 5 Prometheuses from destroyed invasion fleets
>am now set for the next 50 hours

Funny enough, I uninstalled Bultach Coalition for this same reason. For some reason they really pissed off Tri-Tachyon, and they would constantly send massive murder fleets right into a meat grinder, aka Free supply and ships.

>>2065496
>>2065498
How do you create a modded colony crisis anyway?

Rapesector enjoyers are like this
Anyway give me a quick RD about that mod

>get a system specifc bounty
>run into 1 singular pirate fleet
>send them running
>12 pirate ships are running away
>send a few frigits to chase them
>kill one ship
>leave
>repeat
>+25 reputation in total
Wowies Mr Alex outstanding even!

>>2065583
That's nuts. I'd recommend setting the invasion grace period in the settings if you find the heavy faction conflict breaks your early game. I think that factions with a surplus of invasion points will also send larger invasions (not sure) so tweaking the generation rate might also help your problem.

>>2065306
Genuine question: What would you do to make mortars worth the slot they inhabit?

>>2065314
this highlights what vanilla is truly missing

>>2065621
That's the thing, it only happened with Adversary, and to a smaller extent Bultach. With the same settings, it's fine with every other mod.

Everyone violently hating adversary probably broke Nexerelin.

>>2065625
I need a 6 cannon one now

>>2065622
mortars should be such a low OP that you might as well use them to fill out slots you'd otherwise leave empty
like 1 OP light mortars and 3-5 OP heavy mortars

>>2065630
Changing my game to this now.
Did the same for small slot hammers a little while ago too. Made the singles 0 and the doubles 1, and ngl, I still barely use them as my brain still asks "yeah but why aren't you just footing the OP and throwing in Reapers anyway?"

>>2065598
It's a fun gameplay extension that adds context to the combat, scenarios, and fights with factions in that you're always collecting their girls, and thus the content scales naturally and near-infinitely with the amount of faction mods with new characters and fuckable female portraits they might add
Definitely a cheatmod for the campaign layer, in the sense that it makes working up a stable of optimal officers easier, and far more flexible, but still a cheatmod I'll happily play with in every playthrough; too used to enjoying the mechanics. I just put on ruthless sec and starpocalypse to make up for it.

no way you can stomach rapesector but you're still tranny enough to unironically think about "cheatmods"

>>2065598
All the rape stuff is lame stupid and gay as well as the wholesome stuff. I only added it cause unlike forum mod handholdingsector has no restrictions on who can be captured, adds sexy Solvernia portrait and I wanted them Legio officerets. It's annoying that even with me disabling all the stuff I don't need I still get captured crew in cargo and slaves as forbidden commodity on intel screen.

>>2065625
WE NEED MOAR DAKKA

what do fleets actually do with hostile crew anyway? crew recovery indicates a lot of crew even survive ships completely shattering
it's never touched on as far as I know but I assume official procedure for all factions is to just leave them to die in the void with their escape pods and still pressurized segments, salvaging the wrecks also sort of implies your salvage teams kill any survivors that could interfere with the process

>>2065696
Back when the game had boarding and crew had experience levels you used to be able to take some of them to replenish your crew.

>>2065622
Ammo. Give them the capacity to pop out a shotgun salvo every so often and they're suddenly much scarier up close.

>>2065713
So have them work kinda like a thumper?

>>2065724
Thumper has a use already but this might give mortars a reason to exist. I don't know about you but I'd rather put just about anything else up there even if mortars were 0 OP. Maybe give them a slight aoe explosion or non modifiable anti armor effect like that on mining blasters? That way they'll at least work as decent armor removal on a budget.

>>2065496
independents have a colony crisis in nexerelin

>>2065583
that sounds like your nexerelin is not working correctly because it has salvage fleets which will attack you if you try to take their post battle loot just to stop you from doing what you described

>>2065730
Might not be too hard to throw that mining blaster effect on or something like it if it already exists elsewhere. I threw the Ion Beam's EMP arcs on the Hydra and it instantly became my favourite weapon.

>>2065738
Easily one of the worst mechanics in nex.
You could delete the entire persean blockade over kazeron and one will still spawn and claim the salvage you made.
Even better, because they are independants they get weaker the more mods you have installed.

>>2065741
It's quite easy to change it in weapon_data but the problem is that weapons are of different value on different ships. Ghetto lashers with mortars are perfectly viable for example. Heavy burst PD on executor are mean as all fuck. Tac lasers or IRs can do serious work on an ody. Apex with pulse lasers or kinetic blasters is a nightmare and so on.

I'd think about changing mortar damage to ~500 and switch it to frag but that would make them even more niche.

>>2065745
>delete the entire persean blockade
well they arent an issue at that point and just give you more loot for blasting them so who cares they do their job to prevent early game free looting just fine

>>2065751
>Mortar viability
My personal hangup is I don't like 'trap' choices, like I don't like shit that exists just to make new players feel like retards because they used it for a while and didn't know any better. Frankly, legit retards will find ways to be actually retarded even if they're given all the good shit on a silver platter.

>keep transponder off
>destroy entire enemy fleet
>somehow they still know who you are and you still lose relationship with the faction

>>2065758
I agree completely. If I wanted super secret niche inner technique of squatting gay frog mounting the moon that's only useful in certain hour of a certain date of a particular zodiac sign but only if your inner chi meridians are resonating with the feng shui of a nearby toilet I'd play amazing cultivation sim instead of SS. But there is an argument to be made, and you made it yourself about player experience changing the value. Couple that with comparing different weapons and it's not easy to simply fix it with a tweak. What are you going to do with light assault guns for example if light mortars suddenly become a no brainer to use?

>>2065776
The implication is that if you do it time and time again, the faction'll come to the conclusion that it's you because
>a barely competent intel dept will keep track of seemingly related fleet-disappearance incidents
>a halfway competent intel dept will also keep track of foreign fleet movements, otherwise you wouldn't get bounties for two-bit pirates
>a reasonably competent intel dept will put two and two together, comparing foreign fleet movements and their fleets disappearing, and eventually realise that only one known fleet fits the bill
There is always some reasoning or explanation behind a given event.

>>2065635
>"yeah but why aren't you just footing the OP and throwing in Reapers anyway?"
That's because I made small slot dragonfire missiles for that instead

>>2065622
Make them actually hit their fucking targets
accuracy = abysmal guns should never have been a thing

>>2065625
>accuracy very poor
still dogshit trash

>>2065798
>>2065797
your hardpoints?

>>2065800
still just gonna bump that up to poor
whats the difference?

>>2065801
reduces recoil (and dispersion) by about 50%, armored weapon bump that to 75%

>>2065804
It changes so little that it still doesn't matter
its still dogshit trash

>>2065805
accuracy =/= recoil =/= dispersion
>its still dogshit trash
yes but not because of that accuracy

>>2065777
>...you made it yourself about player experience changing the value...
Way I see it, trap options simply aren't visible to experienced players. It no longer registers as an actual factor anymore, it might as well not exist.
>What are you going to do with light assault guns for example if light mortars suddenly become a no brainer to use?.
My gut feeling answer is: match them with the descriptions and make them worth their OP.
But the Mortar isn't quite that simple because of what its description wants it to do.
LAG's easy, just make it actually feel like a small sized Assault Chaingun and everyone will love it.
>For the autistic elaboration:
>Light Mortar
For 2OP, the fluff says its niche is flux efficiency. Its biggest weakness is ridiculously slow projectile speed, on top of the terrible fucking accuracy >>2065797 points to. They're only usable in player hands because the target leading required to hit anything is beyond AI capability. Fucking capitals can strafe out the way.
The problem is, being flux efficient means nothing because it doesn't hit anything, doesn't matter if it's only 0.6 flux/damage if you do 0 damage every shot. You're better off just adding more vents to improve the weapons that actually do hit. This means the Mortar actually has no niche in its current form. Might be different if it actively spent flux to fire, but then vents are still better because they're more consistent.
>Light Assault Gun
5OP rapid fire weapon, description says they're for brawling. Weakness is that rapid fire weapons are generally worse at cracking armour than singular big hits--not a deal breaker though, Chaingun is incredible and the Hephaestus has a place where it's good. Main issue of the LAG is simply that small kinetic weapons are fucking godly, so armour cracking as a role goes to different slots.
LAG has a niche, it just needs to feel as good against armour as other small ballistics feel against shields. That's just tweaking numbers at that point.

>>2065776
you probably had a speshul ship like oldslaught in your fleet

>>2065810
Short range makes shot speed and accuracy far less important. Real problem imho is on one hand the damage of just 110 is crap vs heavy armor especially with officers and you might as well use those same godly small kitetics to destroy both shields and weaker armor at any range.
But I think it's even worse for the heavy mortar because if you make them high frag damage or their rounds explode you're messing with flaks. If you make their shots faster and damage that sweetspot of ~250(500) you're messing with maulers. If you just make them cheaper with no other stat changes they're still not worth using over chainguns or maulers at their prefered range. Or even autocannons.

Basically how'd you make them more appealing to use while both not powercreeping a different weapon and keeping their flux/op budget niche?

>LAG's easy, just make it actually feel like a small sized Assault Chaingun and everyone will love it.
Could be interesting but keep in mind those are already decent at what they do and can have their range increased to ~1100 very easily on some ships. I'm not sure how well loved the change to halve their base range to offset increased rate of fire would be.
You might be on to something tho. LAG into smaller chaingun with vulcans on small and chaingun as is with thumpers on medium sounds goot. Light mortars into what LAGs currently are and heavy mortars just double that.

That could work. The numbers would have to be carefully adjusted but that could work. And it would be less boring than just duplicate autocannons and give them HE/

>>2065786
>>2065776
Fleet destroyed 43 days ago. Send ship to location 43 light days away (1,114,000,000,000km) with a telescope, see who destroyed the fleet.

>>2065696
i just assume that they surrender and I leave them packed on some surviving ships so they can fuck off

>>2065776
>be on bad terms with a faction
>keep transponder off
>get harassed by local traffic cops
>tell them to fuck off
>rep goes down
instead
>see cops incoming
>turn transponder on
>they instantly hit the road and fuck off
>zero rep lost

>>2065825
>Basically how'd you make them more appealing to use while both not powercreeping a different weapon and keeping their flux/op budget niche?
A million ways to skin a cat, just gotta find the right one. I made Mining Lasers HE weapons in my game, no other changes, and I've been happy with the results--gives them a niche without making problems for PD lasers (although, it does piss on the Mortar a bit, but as we established, they're not even worth the cargo space to haul back to a shop for credits).
There's also an easy thing to look at to know if you're powercreeping a Light Mortar: Warthogs have two on them.
>Re: my suggestion of making them spend flux to use.
I think this is the way to go to be honest.
I just tested it now, simply typing negative values on the flux cost per shot does work, and does in fact remove flux from the ship.
It doesn't show on the tooltip though, it just says "costs no flux to fire", which is technically true I suppose.
Interestingly, doing this doesn't shed hard flux, only soft flux, which does keep things constrained on the powercreep side, so that's handy.

>>2065837
this explanation seems to be the most plausible

>>2065847
>this doesn't shed hard flux
That is interesting if true. I really don't like something as cheap and as spammable as those basically doubling as extra vents or potentially letting you bypass 0-flux but I'd have to see it in action and it does have interesting potential in say an energy scaling missile or projectile that you want to build up flux for so it actually does damage but firing it expends flux. Very fun way to think about making them more appealing to use instead of the usual make it cheaper or make it use more flux, that I respect.

>Mining Lasers HE weapons
That's ~30(60)HE/s base that goes into both energy and ballistic small and it scales up for 1 OP. Works with PD skill, works with advanced optics so not BRF limited and ITU. For almost no flux/s. With beam accuracy and beam damage increase on something like anubis and reliably accessible HE beams on low tech which usually don't have that option.

Brother, that small change made them kinda bonkers. If you think I'm exaggerating try putting some on a legion or retribution and see for yourself. Multiple stormneedlers + these = holy shit. Might also make for a really, really nasty and unexpected disco doom or afflictor when I think about it some more.

>>2065854
>Doesn't shed hard flux
Further testing, I stand corrected. It does shed hard flux, _but only if the shield is down_.
Just tested it on a monitor. It works with Flux Shunt.
>HE ML
Not as crazy as you'd think. Just tested three afflictors, one with 4 needler and a Tac Laser to for an arbitrary point of comparison, one with 5 tac lasers and high scatter amp, and one with 5 HE mining lasers + high scatter amp. Threw it in the sim against a Revenant, no officer because I'm lazy.
Afflictor with the Tac Lasers performed the best, 101 seconds PPT remaining.
Afflictor with needlers killed it with 62 seconds of PPT remaining.
Afflictor with the HE mining lasers did it with 9 seconds remaining.
It's not bad by any stretch given they're 1OP weapons vs. 4OP and 8OP weapons.
However, that shield malus cucks the dream. Not even gonna mention the PPTs against the Atlas, because the mining laser Afflictor DNF'd. Malfunctions got to it.

>>2065738
That's the thing. there are so many invasions happening at once that there aren't enough salvage fleets to try and stop me. See, with smaller invasions the battles and salvage loot are more centralized into one spot, so yeah I can't just swoop in and take what I want, but for some reason, with Adversary EVERYONE wants them dead and there arent enough salvage fleets to collect it all.

is there a mod that lets you respec your officers? tired of this nigger shit with every officer having ballistic and energy mastery at the same time

I'm only getting back to Starsector now did all new quest hinted that the Luddic was responsible for all those things on hyperspace that destroyed the Domain?
>The Tri-Tach director joked that the Threat and the Luddic have the same goals of purging all technology, and the Threat specifically leaves organic matter and human alone after their defabrication
>All the Threat hull description implied they were made by a rebel force within the domain
>At least one of the hull describing the birth of the Threat has done lady grandiosely declares her intention like a Luddic scripture
However the Luddic faith was only born 200 years ago, the Threat seems much older. Weird that they have the same goal though

>>2065866
>It does shed hard flux
Figured as much. Now I'm curious how that would interact with s-stabilized shields and how viable would it be to make a permanent 0-flux while shooting build. Permakiting eagle meta might be back lol.

>Just tested
Did afflictors also go without officers? If so that wasn't their final form.
That said a 1OP basically no flux beam that fits on two most common slots and can do up to at least 100dps(or double that on say anubis if I got my math right) damage against armor at over 1k/u range sound pretty crazy from where I'm sitting. Phase lance has 217dps, requires a medium and can't boost range as much for reference.
A battery of these will strip any armor that's not a low tech brick like a pocket HIL for far less than half of OP or flux invested for a proper HIL, if that was even an option on that hull. And you need to consider their next best ballistic competition is a 5 OP LAG that need more setup to perform worse in most situations.

All I'm saying is with how limited and flux intensive dedicated HE options are on high tech ships and how often flux starved low tech are that's suddenly a very viable weapon.

What do you think about simply giving it a fragmentation aoe like a mini paladin that can't hit the primary target? Would make it a decent PD option at least.

Wait, what was the mod that lets you check and accept contact missions as long as you're in comms range?

>>2065915
>Not even final form
Alright, generated an officer, chose something less armoured and without an omni shield so I can get around it, specifically a wayfarer.
Officer has PD, Energy Weapon mastery, system's expertise, got unlucky and no target analysis though.
>Different fits for the Afflictor.
I built in low scatter amp just for the extra damage, and I felt dirty doing it.
I didn't bother with hullmods to help the needlers out in any way though when I got to that one.
Mining Lasers took about a minute and a half to melt the wayfarer, but the AI was retarded and wasted half its damage on shields. Piloting myself I got it in a little under half that.
Tac Lasers took about thirty seconds, give or take.
LAGs this time to test, about fifteen seconds, whether piloted or AI.
Needlers was about twenty odd seconds, I couldn't match the AI on that one, it did a better job than me.
>Conclusion
Doing okayish considering it's tiny OP investment in AI hands, while being skill issue in player hands... I'm okay with this.
It's utterly cucked by omni shields to the point of being completely useless against it, so I'm thinking it doesn't really need more tuning.
Truth be told, I just wanted was for it to match the Mining Blaster's damage type and figured it'd find a place killing Warhogs or something.
>What do you think about simply giving it a fragmentation aoe like a mini paladin that can't hit the primary target? Would make it a decent PD option at least.
I'm tempted to try it out on like the (LR)PD Lasers, but... I'm dunno, torn. I'm not a fan of them because I think they take too long to do their job and so they get overwhelmed easy, but I also don't know if they're actually fine and I'm just using them wrong.
If I do it I'll have to build a new effect, can't just plug in the paladin one, for one 100 fragmentation damage is a bit much. I'm a bit of a codelet too, so it'll be a bit before I post results.

>>2060880
Yes

I can't seem to get intellij to modify ARC's jar file so I can't put the necessary files in to make that hullmod for it to make it switch built-in weapons

Do I have to rebuild the entire fucking jar from scratch?

>>2066098
Claim that the mod has trojan in it on forums so the modder is forced to post source

>>2066098
No, you don't have to rebuild from scratch entirely.
Extract, modify, repackage, and replace. This is the standard approach for editing mod files or existing JARs.

>>2065902
the THREAT descriptions don't imply a rebel faction what the fuck are you on about
they're a supreme fuckup from some retard doing shit with a nanoforge, which turned into basically stargate replicators
like it even spells it out for you that the reason there's DRM and shit baked into every part of any kind of major industry from the domain is to prevent either another THREAT being created, or to stop the THREAT from taking over more nanoforges to make more of themselves

if anything the Luddics were more worried about higher level tech (P-Space/Hyperspace) attracting or pissing off whatever voodoo bullshit demons are in there (Shrouded Dwellers/the still unexplained P-Space entities)

The THREAT is probably why the gates were shut down (a final attempt to stop their spread by the Domain) but the other shit is what the Luddic "stop molesting the stars" stuff is based on- Luddic markets don't give a shit about your weird THREAT hullmods or weapons or whatever, but if you come in with a Dweller hullmod it goes over about as well as you would expect

>>2066127
nta but records of past conflicts involving the use of self-replicating tech or nanoforges as weapons, deliberately unleashed in warfare, suggest organized creation and deployment.

If the THREAT exhibits signs of adaptive behavior, strategic planning, or goal-oriented actions—beyond what a simple accident would produce—it indicates it may be a semi-autonomous or intentionally directed entity.

>>2066131
the THREAT is some kinda fucked up super-solipsistic AI of some kind, the details imply that it (or at least its ships) started out as some kind of Domain dipshit fuckery where they tried to outsource killing dissidents to automated fleets, but the hull and other things also heavily imply this started going bad very quickly

if they made self-replicating machines designed to kill dissidents then man the domain is even more retarded than I already thought, but that would still line up with the "nanoforge corruption created the THREAT as we know them" and DRM on like 90% of Domain tech

>>2066137
This reframes the threat as a cautionary consequence of technological hubris rather than a straightforward result of malicious design or stupidity. So it is in the general theme of the setting.

>>2065889
dont know of any but i simply set officer max level to 14 so they get every skill

it's just low-functioning grey goo

>>2065889
Always mentor your officers so they have a better selections of skills on levelup.
Officer extension lets you demote them and loose skills

Is going fast a valid battle tactic? Talking 300 su+ on a Tempest

>>2066228
Yes?

What do you mean exactly, are you low on OP for weapons?

>>2066228
>>2063621

>>2066237
I mean just going so fast as to outrun most fire and missiles.

>>2066243
Not fast enough

>>2066254
outrun this
*cums*

>>2066254
Well, who is pilot this tempest you? Because if it isn't you then this Tempest sounds like dogshit, no offense.

>>2066098
Wtf, what are those ships from? I know the Virtuous is from Diable, but I've never seen it in that color.

>>2066261
*strafes*
wutchu gonna do now

how is this fair

>>2066309
Fighters and beams will fuck that fleet up.

>>2066309
The hell can those smods even be? Im going to laugh if they s modded additonal berths or something useless.

>>2066309
play meme mods
get memed on

>>2060314 (OP)
>this is what UAFjeets think is funny and memey
Malaysians can’t meme

>>2065306
yeah i replaced them since posting this

>>2066298
You bloody fucking nigger

>>2066311
Fighters against Dooms?
nah you're the one getting fucked

what you really need is just a SINGLE afflictor since that ship can solo that easily

Does anyone else here love running phase fleets?

>>2066433
Like all phase? Nah the DP nerfs kinda killed that for me.

>>2066254
Just get an afflictor and right click, it is that easy

The Lion's Guard got raped by (You)

The poster above me got raped by (Me)

Are the Hivers OP or am I just bad at the game?

>>2066575
I don't know why you insist on mods if you don't know how to play

>>2066309
Because you can use your main character plot armor to disengage.

>>2066309
Another OC donut steel mod made by a tranny?

>>2066126
>No, you don't have to rebuild from scratch entirely.
Actually I do because the motherfucker who manages ARC didn't include source files to the mod
The github for a "new" ARC has its files changed without any logs on what was changed so using it in my version would crash the game if I used that thing
I aint paid to fucking debug this shit to that extent

I just want this mech to be on par with that trash in Diable at the very least

is the nex quest series from midnight dissonant supposed to be a huge grindan multi-capital shitfest?

What missiles do i use on my shitty wolves that the AI knows how to actually use?

>>2066633
sabots are basically fool proof in the hands of AI
even when used sub optimally, they'll still do a solid punch

>>2066633
Do yourself a favor and don't use anything smaller than cruisers

r8 my mod list, is this too much bloat?

>be at +30 rep
>turn off transponder
>kill the home mega fleet with starport
>bomb the planet
>raid the nanoforge and 2 blueprints
>kill 2 unlucky trade fleets who just so happen to be in the area
>be at 15 rep
>take a bountry mission
>be at 45 rep
Haha

>>2066648
why whats wrong with small ships?

>>2066624
yes

>>2066660
They usually don't scale well the longer the game goes, they need good game knowledge to build and command and vanilla has a fleet size cap where you're very limited if you like to run with a bunch of logistic ships so you're "encouraged" to "compress" both the DP and stats of ships.

>>2066648
skill issue

>>2066658
>marvelous
bricked and crashcoded
NGMI

>>2066665
A single Afflictor can solo the game
you just suck at piloting

>>2066666
Yes. That's why I suggested he play with cruisers and capitals until he gets the hang of it a bit more.

>>2066660
Any frigate that doesn't have a "become invincible" ability, like the monitor has, will get instantly vaporized sooner or later in large battles. This is also the case for most destroyers.
They have inherently shorter range and usually only small and medium weapons which requires them to get really close to the paragon with four tachyon lances to do damage.

>>2066669
Nah
the only way to "get the hang of it" is to just keep flying wolves tempests and omens

>>2066658
Should be only be speed up

>>2066668
>he can't do it with a kite

>>2066673
Sure, that can work too if he's into cock and balls torture.

Midnight is retarded. Every time I talked to it I wanted to bitchslap it, show it chatgpt and scream "look what old earth AIs could do in 21 century"
Also SIerra is retarded. And any other quest\character that implies you, a human, a thinking individual, being subservient and working for fucking roombas

>ais in 21 century
>pestered by retarded incels
>ais in c+206
>death to all humans
makes sense

>go to some random ship and open coms with them to say hello
>they tell me to fuck off

fuck off

don't be non fren!

>>2066624
The quest line is comedically garbage and exemplifies why you should never use nexerelin since it is undercooked and makes no sense.

>>2066700
> first post a literal decade ago
> still undercooked
I think no one just gives shit about nightmid. other features are fine

Any good mod that boosts carriers? Like massive numbers of fighters and uncucked CR?

>>2066700
the amount of seething because nex is the real game is beautiful

>>2066658
you dont even have mods thats like a basic "make the game not ugly as fuck" pack

>>2066715
such as?

>>2066716
such as faction mods nexerelin weapon packs and ship packs

>>2066716
He's shitposting if you haven't noticed

>>2066673
>just keep flying wolves tempests and omens
noob here and I'm literally doing that, my main ships are my zoomer frigates with 2 eradicators (which I already fucked up by picking a pirate one without seeing the systems change), how fucked am I?

>>2066724
Eradicators are good even p one

>>2066718
>oc donut mods and bloatrelin
hmm no thanks

>>2066724
You're never truly fucked as long as you have story points and earlier saves

>>2066729
>playing vanilla with like 5 ships in the entire game over and over

>>2066737
73.5% of frogposters are clinically autistic, so that checks out.

>>2066737
>playing shitty donut steel mods with op ships and retarded anime factions

>>2066740
if everything is op nothing is op
stop bitching about oc donut steel thats what every modding scene is

>>2066746
this and futa isn't gay either

>>2066748
of course it isnt

>>2066724
you'll be fine until the early late game, pretty much anything works until then if you're not completely retarded.
eradicators are great value because it's one of the few ships that the AI can handle without shitting itself, even without the double dps on demand system.
SS isnt one of those games where you actually need skill or a working brain to "beat" it, just a half decent fleet and basic thinking can get you to the endgame alone.

>>2066753
>one of the few ships that the AI can handle without shitting itself
You're exaggerating.

I love the tempest I love two ion pulsers with extended magazines I love going fast I love kamikaze drones and antimatter srm I love getting evaporated by tachyon lances

Alright im going to jump into
https://github.com/ThomasRahm/starpocalypse/releases
Ill let you guys know if its a good mod

>>2066798
Fuck me this is horrifying

>>2066724
You're already giga fucked because your faggot ass forgot to buy more Omens

>>2066803
Why are you in a market with starpocalypse enabled?
you're supposed to get your weapons and supplies by raiding planets exclusively when you have that enabled

have you fucking forgotten how it works already?

>>2066798
>>2066803
interesting honestly
black markets should not be easily accessible especially on high stability/high control markets
to trade on black market with high stability you should be paying bribes or have local contact either pirate or some corrupted official

>>2066798
>>2066818
Ahhh you can still get decent weapons from the arms dealer

>>2066834
>One of the big draws of the black market is no tariffs
>"They should add anarcho-tariffs to the black market"

>>2066798
Yeah things are going pretty well if I have to say so myself

>>2066660
Nothing its fun but they do die here and there.

>>2066888
if the stability of the market is low and control is lax - sure
but as i said the higher control and stability the cost of procurement of goods should be higher
you don't pay taxes but bribe officials to look other way or pay % to criminals controlling it

what is name of that mod that let you customize mods that allow it?

>>2066952
Do you mean LunaLib?

So David's reasoning for how he wrote faction is:
>Persean League are often portrayed as retarded because he hates nobles so it extends to the League
>Luddic Church and Path are portrayed as reasonable because people WOULD expect him to portray them as stupid so he tries to make them as cool possible to subvert expectations
The dev team hasn't commented on the Diktat, the Hegemony and Tri-Tach yet so we don't really know how they feel. But their reasoning for how they write the League and the Luddic sounds so stupid bordering on favouritism

>>2066963
Everyone being so heavily propagandized for decades against governments that officially have nobles has been a disaster for writing in all genres of media.

>>2066980
>>2066963
I don't see nobles and governments and religious radicals. All I see is one thing:

>$$$$$$

And they've got alot of it.

>stick reaper torpedos on a bunch of frigates
>they literally never use it

seriously wtf is wrong with this dumbass ai?

>>2067011
mine use it but they miss even when the target is literally disabled

>>2067014
yeah i just stick with guided missiles only now since the retarded ai doesnt know how to use anything else

>>2066382
>Fighters against Dooms
You did think that would happen but Ai is not you. They will just get swarm, push back and reach max flux which then become easy targets. Phase fleets are still very annoying to deal with.

>>2067011
>>2067014
Yeah. Something is wrong

whats the point of daggers when tridents are a lot better and only 2 op more?

>>2066952
bro found this meme on julius caesar's hard drive

>>2067044
close
it is on my old pc stashed in my parents home
have starsector installed from 2013

>scanning close to gas giants and magnetic fields increase Hyperspace topography
also
>play Starapocalypse
>found pic related
>not enough cash

behold, my Ghetto rigged Cerberus

>>2067023
Alex fixed that AI behavior on Dooms
they WILL spam mines on fighter swarms and wipe them all out now

CARRIERS ARE SO FUCKING GARBAGE HOLY SHIT

>>2067087
just buff them bro

>>2067087
Carriers are there to support the rest of your fleet

>>2067092
why would i ever use them when other ships are way better and can do the same role?

>>2067093
They're like a glue that helps shit not get out of control.
You can get another ship to tank hits, or you can get a carrier to take some of the burden off by harassing enemies.
Similarly you can get a few ships to split off from the fleet to take care of the frigate that's flanking you, or you can have a carrier do it.
All in all though carriers are not great and they only excel against phase ships, I probably wouldn't bring more than 1 or 2 in my fleet unless I really wanted to.

>>2067087
They are bad because AI can't use or deal with them

>>2067082
Oh did he? Haven't fought a phase fleet yet so I couldn't tell, but if you say so I'm trusting your word.

>omens keep dying on capital explosions
incredible ship

>>2067087
fight right figters a carrier can become godly

>>2067092
skill issue >>2060501 and this nigger didn't even deploy them in their final form

>he never personally modded 4 locust missile onto a single fighter
>He never has his entire computer crash due to locust
Ngtmi

>>2067127
You need more RAM

>>2067011
install gunnery control

>>2067087
put shope cheap shit drones or claws on a cheap carrier they wont kill anything but they will saturate enemy point defense for your missiles

You lot make me empathize with omegas reading gamma core shitposting

>>2067160
shut your whore mouth gamma cores are cute

>>2067167
yeah
cause they're stupid
they're cute and funny disks
they're dumb little red idiots

>>2067108
skill issue

>>2067212
this has to be the worst overused zoomer meme ever
watching all of skibidi toilet 10 times over is funnier

>>2067221
It is not misused in this case though, >>2067108 is a literal skill issue

>>2061317
Are they retarded?

>>2061332
That's gay and not in the slightest based
That's disgusting, degenerate and very Jewish

>>2067254
see >>2061332

>>2061451
Technically the has the stuff for 0-10, but given a fresh colony requires a 1000 people to get started, you just never see anything smaller.

Colonies are retarded it makes no sense to go from a couple thousand people to millions over a week. Colonies should just be small outposts you setup

>>2067357
colony population numbers are already heavily restrained in vanilla

>>2067357
Those luddites breed and breed and than breed some more
>tfw no amish gf

what missiles should i put on the wolf meme, 2 atropos or sabots or 1 of each?

>>2067357
>his faction does not have state mandated breeding quotas

>>2067438
Salamanders.

>>2067484
why? salamanders are complete trash

>>2067497
NTA but they're a great utility missile, works well if you need faster ships to fuck off since the ai will do anything to evade it if their ship has no pd, it can nail larger ships occasionally if their pd is occupied and make them spin out of control, showing their ass instead.
It's one of the more underappreciated missiles out there because it doesn't focus on a temporary burst of flux-free dps.

>>2067497
also nta but they have their use, funny af when you neuter an onslaught or even better a radiant with one

>>2067087
carriers chew through crew like water but man having a fucking massive swarm overwhelming a fleet is fun as hell

>>2067515
I'm still tilted wings are hardcoded to 6 maximum

>>2067438
swarmers for more pd saturation

Does it make me sound weird if I don't want to download Star lords? Like, the mod itself is really cool and I love what it adds, but seeing constant updates every day about fixing some horrific and fatal crash is making me nervous, like at any point it'll destroy my 50 hour save file due to something completely out of control, and it'll be one of those issues that requires a complete restart on the whole run.

It's appreciated that the mod author takes that time to iron out the bugs, but there's so many. Geez.

>>2067543
you one dumb motherfucker
what he gonna saturate for?

You know, I'm having a conversation with someone right now over fast travel, and it made me think: should the gates require more effort to use? Like them being insta-fast travel points makes exploration a little easy, doesn't it? The gate you get by exploring limbo and the dead ice star is the most interesting one, because you have to work for it.

Imagine if several of the gates required unique quests, like killing a luddic pather base, destroying remnants, eating doritos, etc.

>>2067625
Using the gates at all requires a unique quest.

>>2067626
It just requires you beating the game, which isn't very long. And when you skip it via Nexerelin, you just get it for free.

>it's too easy when you cheat
Say it ain't so

>>2067629
>When I press the "get thing for free" button I get the thing for free
Someone call Mensa

>>2067634
>>2067633
All I'm saying is that the gate system would be much more interesting if each one required a quest or some investment of materials, even after you beat the game, like maybe a one time fee of 1000 transgenders

>>2067635
TRANSPLUTONICS

I MEANT TO SAY TRANSPLUTONICS

Still not the gayest bait itt

What's the market price for one domain standard container full of transgenders

>>2067641
69 vanilla, 1 modded because custom factions keep flooding the market

>>2067641
Normally 100 credits but the price decays rapidly past the date their loaded because you lose 41% of the cargo every cycle

>>2067223
replying with a literal fart is more useful than "literal skill issue", that shit has no real meaning other than being a meme reply, and you're a zoomer retard for thinking it does

This sure is a funky build

>>2067497
The main benefit of the salamander is that the AI overcorrects to deal with them and often in pretty dumb ways.

>>2067694
nta, but you're being willfully obtuse. The initial anon with the Omen is complaining the frigate is constantly getting blown up by capital explosions, implying that the ship is shit as a result. I get that controlling your frigates is like herding cats sometimes, but you don't need to spam exterminate/full assault on everything all the time.
Genuinely a fucking issue of skill at the game.

>>2067735
nice

>>2067772
The Salamander is a classic example of "Weapon Bad: AI Worse".

>>2067833
Honestly I'm not picking up what you're putting down. Why is it so bad? What would you do to make it less bad?

>tfw Ai frigates keep moving into my tachyon beams
second time today that I had a hyperion teleport into my beam line killing it. Also reckless officers on frigates always are the first to die.

>>2067774
>but you don't need to spam exterminate/full assault on everything all the time
yeah and this is exactly why saying "skill issue" is fucking useless, I found out another thing was the omens were getting friendly killed somehow. also not having omens at least on aggressive seems retarded as fuck since you don't get to use the emp on enemies. they have 5.5k flux idk why the fuck they get insta killed by dumb shit, my afflictors manage to die somewhat often too, the tempests usually survive just fine and they have 1k LESS flux plus a mega burst loadout, they should be the ones dying the most, but no, they survive and deal 2x dmg than the other frigates

>>2067848
true, I just set my omens to escort my cruiser and capitals as a pd system that can kill stranded heavy damaged ships. Also a good way to keep enemy phase ships from bullying slow big ships. Tempest have great staying power. On a side note what armaments do anons use on omens, afflictors, and auroras?

>>2067735
delete derelict operations right now alex i am no longer asking

>>2067594
the other 20 wolves with good missiles

>>2067850
>I just set my omens to escort my cruiser and capitals as a pd system that can kill stranded heavy damaged ships
my omens are currently doing something similar but sometimes I get more use out of them by baiting enemy ships to let my capitals breathe a bit, because if I let them too much into the action they end up getting killing by whatever. the thing is that tempests can do the same but they're not dying and are doing way more dmg, even for the mobile pd function they're decent with the drones, and even for emp my tempest with ion pulser is doing good

>>2067848
>this is exactly why saying "skill issue" is fucking useless
Look at it as litmus paper but instead of acid you're testing whether someone is worth spoonfeeding. Also often tryhards that despite that still suck at the game often get triggered and that's funny.

In general explosions on death damaging other ships is dumb. Do they fight on knife distances? I modded that out and that made shield less and smaller ships much more useful and not dying in dumb ways

So, filtered into cheating? Sad but many such cases.

>>2067087
Stop using them against Doom fleets you dumbass

>>2067108
bro your 360 shields?

>>2067355
10^0 means there's exactly 1 person on that planet's surface

>>2067861
I am not OG anon with omens. I use shield less pirate ships. Al can't just figure how to avoid explosion and in general is dumb in case of movement. It's especially visible when you fly junk fleets and the junks are on your side. Early game problems that persist because most people just skip early game or play it heavily modded

>>2067865
>bro your 360 shields
Not that anon, but omen niggers don't use them, they always drop their shield at the worst possible moment. I think it's also an omni shield so it comes up very slow.

>>2067856
why should I care about your retarded litmus test, you right from the start you didn't add anything to the discussion with your overused meme that has no meaning at all
if at least you had said anything real and an anon shitposted on it then you could mentally masturbate about it not being worth to talk

>>2067885
You shouldn't. And by the same measure of you being a whiny shit I shouldn't care to help you either.
Trust the method lol.

>>2067873
>use shield less ships
>my shitty pirate close range ships die to explosions
And you don't see any correlation between those two?

>>2067889
>shouldn't care to help you either
I don't think you understand. (you) started out being a nigger, I'm the one that doesn't care about your shit lol, this is why you're mentally masturbating about muh litmus test

>>2067865
>10^0 means there's exactly 1 person on that planet's surface
The idea of a planet populated entirely by one lone space hillbully is kino. Game should have more of it.

>>2067895
I see correlation. It's just shitty mechanic.
Shield less ships are already on disadvantage because they rely on speed and armour tanking.

>>2067908
As long as this soothes your asspain over being called out for being a skill issued failed abortion baby I'm willing to assist. It's what Ludd would do.

>>2067911
Bro you retarded

>>2067908
You keep replying to him and he's going to keep being a faggot. He has nothing of value to say so just fucking hide the post and move on.

>>2067957
No, u
AI being shitty and Alex not playing his own game is not good
Junk ships dying to their own success is not fun

>>2067840
It's not bad per se the problem is the AI overreacts to them which makes an ok weapon come across much stronger than it should be.
The AI needs to be fixed to that it doesn't turn towards missiles unless the missile is approaching from an arc which has no PD cover.

how should i build this piece of trash? this is what i have so far i dont know what mods to make built in

>>2068039
i made some changes to it how does this look now bros