Why aren't you guys playing Zero-K? It is the greatest simulated projectiles RTS game ever made.

More like Zero-Gay

>>2063945 (OP)
Because I still have my TA and SupCom CDs.

>>2063945 (OP)
Because the game focused too hard on espurts to the detriment of being fun to play. Even BAR with all its downfalls didn't the neglect being so badly.

>>2064367
What esports? The majority of the playerbase plays on TAW where people are lobbing nuclear subs and doing other silly shit. BAR has an actual esports scene, Zero-K doesn't.

>>2063945 (OP)
The raider phase of the game burns me out quickly, having to micro right from the start to not get out-expanded.

why do all of these fags who cry about starcraft not having line of sight projectiles suddenly not care that the engagement distance between enemy units in their TA-like is like 50-100 feet? On an open battlefield, tanks would be engaging each other at distances of thousands of meters.

>>2064557
Because it's not a milsim. They were probably complaining about the lack of depth in Starcraft combat.

is it fun to turtle in it against bots?

>>2063945 (OP)
Too much micro for such a big scale game. I just want to send robots to their death the second they come out of the factory. Line War is my drug.

>>2064673
Although it's not bots, the teams all welcome lobby can sometimes have a fuckton of porc. Alternatively there is a chicken defense mode where you defend against alien creatures. Normal bots exist but I never tried turtling against them so I don't know the answer to that.

>>2064673
Your mileage may vary. I wouldn't say it's the comfiest game with how aggressive the AI is, how you need map control to keep up, and how shit most defenses are.

>>2064557
I care about that, but at that point the unit wouldn't even be visible anymore. I think supcom scale is the best one, but maybe if everything had more range, like x1.5 it would be nicer

Starcraft is just dogshit gookclicking, you can't even zoom out the map and if you suggest it the fags say it'll ruin everything, you suggest better QoL like making a line move command and the fags will say it'll ruin the "skill expression" the fuck is skill expression, it's like someone saying they'll never use a vehicle for locomotion because it'll ruin their legs' skill expression

>>2064722
I remember camera height and view editing discussions being banned on old Generals ZH forums because appropriate height and view for new systems considered an unfair advantage with main talking point being "players will just edit the game to be able to see the entire map"
Even now you can't play original ZH in humane camera view and height with goytool installed even though xes0y could have just forced camera to stay at proper height and view instead of original

>>2064371
BAR has an actual esports scene? wow

>>2066288
>actual esports scene
no, but it does have a pompous-nerds-taking-themselves-too-seriously scene

>>2066288
>>2066305
it has tournaments with money prizes so you could consider it "esports", but there are no real teams other than maybe PRO

>>2064367
lol, lmao even. Say, which of those has a campaign?

>>2063945 (OP)
i tried it but just couldnt get into the setting. i much prefer human infantry over robots.

>>2063945 (OP)
because it runs like shit on my uhd 630 laptop
funny because BAR, while also looking better, runs alright
shame, because I prefer ZK