>“Taking place in early December, this show will unveil the new games that you can expect to play in the near and distant future, as well as introduce you to the development teams making them. We’ll have more details to share as we approach the end of the year, but whether you’re a fantasy or history fan, there will be plenty to enjoy!

>>2067204 (OP)
Star Wars: Total War for fantasy fags and Medieval 3 Total War for history fags.

>>2067219
>Medieval 3 Total War
wonder if they'll even try to make it meaningfully moddable

>>2067219
>Star Wars: Total War
Could this work? Im a Histfag, but I thought they were going for Warhammer 40k or something. Maybe Dune would work too.

>>2067229
Yeah Star Wars Total war could work but I don't think it would be a massive hit. Disney has raped the IP.

>>2067204 (OP)
I just know it's going to be a half baked remaster of some old historical game so they can go "Here you go you history fucks, now stop complaining while we make another 5 fucking warhammer games."

>>2067204 (OP)
"New" is making me think it won't be a Medieval II remaster which is what people actually want. My wild guess is they'll make a campaign about the colonization of north America

>>2067204 (OP)
My guess is it will be 40k and Three Kingdoms 2. They no longer have the ability to make a gunpowder based historical TW, so Empire 2 is never ever.
Medieval 3 is a pipe dream with how rabid 2's fans have gotten, it would be a guaranteed shitstorm which they probably want to avoid after WH3, Hyenas and Pharaoh.

>>2067204 (OP)
i find it hilarious that absolutely no one seems to be hyped about this

>>2067229
It just feel wrong for a space game, even Star Wars, without spaceship combat which I doubt CA will do.

>>2067306
I think it could be done, with a space campaign layer-theather like in ETW. Spess battles would be similar to naval warfare too. But well, I wouldn't bet on CA pulling even this off

>>2067298
>They no longer have the ability to make a gunpowder based historical TW

Why? Is it an engine thing or a staff thinf?

>>2067229
Dune sounds cool theoretically but they'd have to pull a Awakening and make the arrakis shit alt history, maybe something like

>Atreidtes: hard start, prepare for the Harkonnen invasion!

And shit, but then how would it even work on Arrakis? You'd have like 3 fuckin factions. Space wise it just seems kind of exploitable too, i imagine people would be abusing that shit with the lasers making you and the shielder explode by farming suicide troops to blow both themselves and the enemy up from afar.

>>2067204 (OP)
Shit.

>>2067322
>, i imagine people would be abusing that shit with the lasers making you and the shielder explode by farming suicide troops to blow both themselves and the enemy up from afar.
Everyone else would nuke you which is why it's not done in the books.

>>2067245
This.

>>2067321
Probably a mix of both. They still use the same engine used in Empire, technically, but it's a different "updated" version and if you look at gunpowder units in recent games, they feel and look way worse. Melee combat also changed significantly, also for the worse.
The staff also seems utterly clueless when it comes to designing historical TW games. Pharaoh made that very clear.

>>2067343
>everyone else would nuke you

Simple solution: nuke them back, abandone planets, migrate to other new planets, raze and destroy. Like in Attill but in space

>>2067322
There's a 30 year long precedent of ignoring the canon in Dune books and just making up your own conflict for whatever strategy game you want. Goes back all the way to Dune 2.

>>2067662
Won't work. Space Guild won't help you, and they're the only way to get around in Dune.

>>2067485
>if you look at gunpowder units in recent games, they feel and look way worse
it's not just gunpowder units. those rice noodle projectiles look fucking retarded and they use them both for guns and bows. you can turn them off but then you can't really tell what's happening, arrows, bolts, stones, become practically invisible. and yet in shogun 2 you had no problem visually distinguishing arrow flight paths during battles.
so what the fuck happened between shogun 2 and rome 2? (i think that's when that projectile problem first appeared) catastrophic loss of talent? irreversible breaking of the engine?

>>2067696
Make our own shitty spice derivative like those fags at Tleilax, secretly train our own shitty versions of navigators, cheese our way to victory (or alternatively research navigation machine faction tech) Face rebellions and -100 faction relation with everyone.

>>2067343
>>2067322
Observe
https://youtu.be/x1SUUkhKkXo?si=CCIldUyMUgIUCIk7

>>2067721
>observe
>posts a music track
huh??? you can't observe music. is there something in particular about the game that's relevant to the conversation you responded to? what is it?

>>2067298
>Three Kingdoms 2
I will now buy your game. Three Changdoms campaign features are so good they basically make me forget about battles (which are shitty but that has been the case since Rome 2).

>>2067721
Lol i remember watching the trailer for this in C&C Renegade

>>2067715
>irreversible breaking of the engine?
I read they just fork the same engine every time they make a new game. And any fixes or improvements never get merged back into the base engine, which is why every game continues to be a buggy mess. It's such a mess they don't even have a proper testing regime. Every time they make even a minor change, they have to basically boot the entire game up to test which makes QA a tedious nightmare.

>>2067731
>this guy can't visualize music in his head
haha, point and laugh.

>>2067220
>wonder if they'll even try to make it meaningfully moddable

lmao

>>2067888
Do synesthesiafags really

>>2067204 (OP)
If it's not historical I'm killing myself. I might play a 40k one, but I want a good Medieval or Empire game. Not going to hold out hopes in the current landscape but I'm open to being pleasantly surprised.

>>2067836
God I feel so old.

>>2067731
He's telling you about the vibe. If you look up gameplay from Emperor you'd get it. Also, the better track:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWtG3EkvSJg

It's going to be another saga title based on the African kingdoms of west africa

>>2067841
Kek, I believe that. The QA was actually confirmed by CA at some point to be what you wrote. Devs testimony also confirms what a shit show the company is.

https://medium.com/@julianmckinlay/total-war-rome-ii-and-creative-assembly-my-statement-ten-years-on-d964f65b0a8f

>>2068461
Personally i am more of Dark Alliance guy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvpGBi5pMnM&ab_channel=Banzay27

>>2068457
Anon even if they did Med 3 or Empire 2 you know it wouldn't be good. They'd bring out England, Germany, France, and Spain and then have everything else as DLC, including the rest of the map.

>>2068528
I hate that you're probably right, and most likely the combat won't have the oomph Medieval 2 had or the weirdly good balance it had between speedy gameplay and slow battles, it'd be a slog like a lot of nu historical tws.

>>2067204 (OP)
40k and Med3

>>2068528
I literally said that. No real hopes. A D20 is cast once a decade but I won't hold my breath.

>>2067715
Rome 2 had the big engine and game design overhaul, of which every TW game released since (minus maybe 3K) is based off. So yeah, I'd say Rome 2's development is to blame.

>>2067204 (OP)
Shogun 3 and 40k

>>2067204 (OP)
It doesn't matter what it will be since it will use the old engine making it an unplayable mess.

My dad works for SEGA, the next game is Total War Three Kingdoms 2.

>>2067204 (OP)
total war warhammer 17

>>2067229
>Empire at War 24-hour peak: 3,165 players
>Total War Pharaoh 24-hour peak: 275 players
It's literally their last hope

>>2067298
>They no longer have the ability to make a gunpowder based historical TW, so Empire 2 is never ever.

they also won't touch naval combat ever again so it's even more unlikely

>>2069655
knowing how shit their management is, even if they re-implement naval it is going to be extremely buggy anyway

30k, but I'm afraid the roster will be mostly Astartes Legions because it'll be set in the Horus Heresy.

>>2070248
If it is Forgeworld 30k then I devour that shit and set aside a dedicated monthly DLC budget.
If it is the gay Black Library 30k (Star Wars-lite) then I am not even going to pirate it.

>>2067731
Ok i'll explain, they can do what Westwood did and just say that Emperor declared War of Assassins over Arrakis for houses interested in taking control over it, who harvests the most spice or destroys forces of other houses will rule the dunes, but there's a set of rules they must follow as well as Great Convention, houses are permitted to warfare only on the Arrakis and can use only conventional weapons, i.e. no lasguns or shields. But as fight goes on it becomes quite obvious that Emperor started this whole thing to either weaken or outright destroy houses that got involved because they grew way to powerful to his liking. And so, houses start bending the rules or outright ignoring them, deploying more and more up-to-date weapons also some new stuff they invented. The Emperor might also show favoritism to some houses, for his own amusement or out of desperation, sending Sardaukars in disguise or openly, depending on how close the players house to total victory, which is deposing the deceitful Emperor and destroying the last remaining house that Emperor sided with in hopes of winning
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fex2oOqy12o&ab_channel=DuneInfo

>>2067286
I wish I could play this mod without it breaking saves 10 turns in, watching shrapnel artillery turn 1/4 of a regiment into red mist is terrifyingly fun

>>2068528
>England, Germany, France, Spain
lol, lmao. You just know it would be like the moors, turks, kyiv and ireland or some other kind of diverse meme shit.

fantasy probably 40k, but could be also star war since was a rumor
historical depends if the new engine is really a thing, on the warscape I expect a empire 2 or a 1800, on a new engine a med3

>>2067229
>>2067298
>>2068537
>>2068875
>>2071970
If it was 40k GW would have made them announce it at Skulls.

>>2068528
>They'd bring out England, Germany, France, and Spain and then have everything else as DLC
You mean the legendary leaders Richard the Lionheart, Bismarck the Aggresive, Jeanne the Defender, and Isabella the Reclaimer? And if you pre-order you will get Saladin the Pious and his exclusive pre-order bonus emote Magic Carpet Dance.

>>2072518
Sorry buddy but Total War Arena AND the card game flopped, surely they won't try that idea a third time.

>>2071977
I don't know. When did they announce WH? They had a chance to announce something during Summer Games Fest too but they chose this goofy six months long fake hype campaign instead.

>>2072518
Too real.

>>2072947
They did that with Pharaoh and that was just over a year ago, you never know.

>>2072518
>Bismarck
I think you mistake Barbarossa

>>2072947
>Total War Arena II
>Emperor Karl Franz and Emperor Meiji use Hellstorm rockets and Gats against an army led by Attilla
>Liu Biao meanwhile is trying to defend the capture point from Napoleon's army

I have never played Arena, this is just what i imagine Arena is like

>>2075876
Arena was basically world of tanks: total war. Like the progression was the same, you just leveled up your infantry or cav instead. It was running on somewhat simplified engine compared to contemporary TW and you got 3 units each player

>>2067204 (OP)
Another Warhammer game

>>2067286
This mod was kino for multiplayer. Shame that the campaign was crash-ridden to the point of unplayability.

>>2067220
I firmly believe they've been trying to damage mods through the weird updates they push through Steam. They're mad that people like and spend money on the older game instead of the newer ones.

Why anyone played the new Warhammers as warscape-afflicted as they were when BotET & CoW existed, I have no idea.

It will be a reskinned Rome 2, like all of them have been for over a decade. CA don't know anything else.

>>2073040
Prussian forefathers culture pack DLC complete with a pickelhaube cosmetic for your legendary leader.

>>2075876
Arena was unironically kino and extremely fun to play.
Sadly it had that shitty war thunder/world of tanks economic free2play model

>>2075876
>>2075934
>>2077720

CA made the bizarre decision to limit Arena exclusively to Rome, which wasted the concept. Arena should have launched as Shogun vs. Medieval vs. Rome. It should be about Total War games fighting other Total War games. I want to rep my favorite game and beat up fans of the games I dislike.

>>2077868
How would they handle guns?

>>2067204 (OP)
Total Warhammer 4. New engine and assets, starting over very basic so they can sell you all the other factions again like a Paradox game.
>but they said they wouldn't make any more
Plans can change.

>>2067245
this

>>2067245
At least they will throw us grognards a bone. Gimme M2TW remaster with the original UI and modding restrictions lifted and I can die in peace

>>2079821
Tfw when Mobile MTW2 is reportedly straight up better than PC unmodded

>>2067245
I would unironically prefer Med 2 Remastered over all other options at this point.
Just give me a fixed-up old-school game that works on modern hardware, and I'll forsake all the newer TW games forever.

>>2085338
This is true

>>2085338
med 2 doesn't need to be "remastered" to be fixed up.
THIS IS THE PROBLEM.
YOU DO *NOT* *WANT* A "REMASTER"
you want the game to be FIXED UP. fix up the graphics drivers it uses, instead of ancient d3d stuff. fix up the UI so that it works on widescreen. fix pikes and guns. remove engine limits. maybe add a new camera mode and make the game run smoother and better.
YOU DO NOT WANT 100gb+ of 4k AI upscale textures, or anything else that was the dumpster fire that was rome remastered. these should be updates to the BASE GAME provided FREE of CHARGE.

>>2089457
nah i want it remastered, thanks.

>>2089832
>he wants them to fuck up the UI, bloat the game with 80gb of uncompressed ai-upscaled textures and make it run worse than it did when it came out 20 years ago
well, if you WANT to eat shit, there's nothing i can really do to stop you

>>2089457
Rome Remastered is objectively superior in every single way to original, including UI

>>2092056
bait used to be believable

>>2089457
>>2090140
Fuck off dumb nigger. Rome Remastered is objectively superior for the mod support alone. Nobody without autism gives a fuck about file size or UI changes.

>>2092337
>Fuck off dumb nigger. Rome Remastered is objectively superior for the mod support alone. Nobody without autism gives a fuck about file size or UI changes.

>>2092337
>Fuck off dumb nigger. Rome Remastered is objectively superior for the mod support alone. Nobody without autism gives a fuck about file size or UI changes.

>>2092364
>every complaint is just "they didn't change it from Rome"

>>2092364
>Nobody without autism gives a fuck about file size or UI changes.
seems like he was right