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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 1:15:56 PM No.2070981
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How do I deal with the AI Korean civ in AoE2? at Feudal their cheaper skirmishers just lets them outblob me and it just snowballs into them throwing a million War Wagons at me if I manage to survive to Imperial.
I'm trying to beat the Extreme AI with Magyars right now, I tried countering the skirmishers with scout/light cavalry but they just throw their cheaper spearmen at me as well so I can never thin them out and they just out-eco me,
Compared to every other civ I managed to beat in Extreme so far this feels like I'm in the backfoot at every stage and can never get an advantage.
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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 3:02:14 PM No.2071016
>>2070981 (OP)
>Extreme AI
>Out-eco me
Who wants to tell her...
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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 3:03:47 PM No.2071018
>>2071016
I'm having to spend more to keep up with their skirmisher count so they get to castle faster and get the other TCs out.
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 8:50:15 PM No.2073594
>>2071018
You do realise the AI is cheating...
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 9:10:22 PM No.2073606
>>2070981 (OP)
the same way you beat the cheating ai in any game: you rush them and cheese them so they can never use their cheat eco
if you let the game get to imp or even castle then you let the game go on too long and you have lost
treat it as an exercise in learning the early game
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 9:02:16 AM No.2074984
>>2070981 (OP)
MAA rush them.
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 8:18:02 PM No.2075406
>>2073594
AOE2DE AI is very specifically not cheating.
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 9:27:19 PM No.2075466
>>2070981 (OP)
>how do i get better at gookclick
take adderall and click faster
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 3:22:21 AM No.2075784
>>2075406
bullshit
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Anonymous
6/24/2025, 3:45:49 AM No.2075796
>>2075784
Once you get gud you'll see how stupid easy the Extreme Ai actually is.
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Anonymous
6/24/2025, 4:10:44 AM No.2075802
>>2075796
Yes but they don't produce 1:1 of a human player's theoretical economy. They get a boost based on the difficulty. Every PC game does this. It's impossible to ever make an AI as good as a computer player so the only way to increase difficulty is just by giving them more.
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Anonymous
6/24/2025, 6:44:49 AM No.2075864
>>2075802

>Yes but they don't produce 1:1 of a human player's theoretical economy.
the Promi AI does NOT cheat at all, it starts with the same resources as you
It was literally one of the biggest features when the game was launched

Im sorry OP, but if you are being out-eco by the base AI... you need to git gud, theres no other solution. Not to mention, even if they have cheaper trash, is just the wood discount. Byz have both cheaper wood&food spears and skirms. Not to mention the counter is clearly m@a
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Anonymous
6/24/2025, 6:48:25 AM No.2075867
>>2075864

and in case you are still in denial, you can download the Barbarian AI in the mod center, and test it vs the base AI. Barbarian is stronger than the default AI but also cheats resources, and it will always win.
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Anonymous
6/24/2025, 7:28:29 AM No.2075882
>>2075864
I have played DE since it came out. the AI does in fact cheat. It doesn't matter if it starts the same resources, it gains more resources and everything. If they sold you the game on that premise you have been sold a lie. It's not bad that the AI cheats, this is the case with every single player game.
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Anonymous
6/24/2025, 7:38:37 AM No.2075883
>>2075882

>I have played DE since it came out. the AI does in fact cheat. It doesn't matter if it starts the same resources, it gains more resources and everything.

dude the aoe2 doesnt get any free resources in DE, i have been playing since the voobly days. In fact the base AI has the same skill of a 1000-1100 player, which in multiplayer is the equivalent of a begginer. The only advantage the AI has vs an human player is that it knows both your villager and military count, but neither gets faster/free tech nor free resources/scouting/locations
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Anonymous
6/24/2025, 1:52:59 PM No.2076011
>>2075867
>>2075882
I will give you five bucks if you stop being cringe for one (1) second. AI is just better at eco (placing farms, not floating wood) killing one or two vills in feudal feels like cheesing even for extreme AI, not to mention how terrible is at defending and attacking. Want to win against the AI? Learn a build order, any build order well executed will do, that's what the AI does.
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 6:04:15 AM No.2076650
>>2076011
I never said I can't beat the AI. The AI cheats though, stop coping about this to feel better about yourself.
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 10:25:39 AM No.2076761
>>2076650
1. The AI doesn't cheat resources in any way
2. You can't beat the AI, noob
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 4:03:33 PM No.2076919
>>2075883
>The only advantage the AI has vs an human player is that it knows both your villager and military count
It can also see your structures and map resources through fow.
Seems pretty cheety to me.