Thread 2073714

>squealin’ like a bunch of buttfucked Tri-Tach mod bitches
Unfuck yourselves.

Can you negotiate the 5% tax with the league if you have previously accepted to pay 20%?

Hope not. Willingly submitting to those chucklefucks should have lasting consequences.

luddite behavior

how much time does it take to build a capital ship

>>2073714 (OP)
Wish that Marines have some more use in the game. Although obviously getting free supplies, weapons and fuel is nice

>>2073992
It's free.

>>2073995
And blueprints, don't forget those. I don't miss the old boarding system tho even if the ships used to sell for a LOT more back then.

>>2073714 (OP)
How's this game these days? Haven't played it in a couple of years. Is he still developing it, or is it just all mods these days?

>>2074059
Glacial slow patches like always but it's in a solid place and we got some new toys to play with last month or so

>>2074059
yes it still gets updated. there's a new Threat to face

Is Eagle (lg) the vanilla ship with the most medium energy mounts?

He should sell the game to an actual developer.

>>2074084
executor?

>>2074059
one patch every 12/16 months
Mostly kept alive by mods atm
Ignore the forums or any discords, full of shitflinging and drama

>full of shitflinging and drama
guess I'll just ignore this place too, then

>>2074198
i find it easier to ignore here since 95% of people don't impact mod or game development

>>2074198
It used to be worse
Also the place is half dead anyway, what you want talking about?

>>2074198
just bee yourself. don't be afraid of dramas and shitflinging, tho I haven't seen much any of that on the official forums like >>2074175 says. it's the unofficial discord channel that stinks to high heavens

>>2073893
>Make 1 colony
>League goes out of their way to send 5 fleets with 7 capital ships each to attack your planet
>When you lose they force you to pay taxes
>You can't prevent the event from firing
>It can fire while you are not superstrong yet
Fun?

>>2074224
just saturation bomb one of their colonies and the crisis ends supposedly

Is there any special dialogue or reward for finding oldslut's second vambrace?

>>2074150
Executor has 2 energy and 4 hybrid which is the same as an Eagle LG but at much worse dp efficiency. If you just want to maximise medium slots then Eagle LG is the best choice.

>>2074224
Skill issue.

>>2074279
Eagle is 5+1 medium ballistic.

>>2074223
That needs to cook more bro

>>2074224
just take out their blockade supply fleets anon, if you can set up a colony then you can take out a few supply ships.

>>2074402
Way too many weapons slots and way too close together, that will overlap and look awful when weapons clip thru each other. You're doing filters too early and you're blurring it, and that's going to be a bitch to return to normal light levels. Weird lines and no trim on most edges.
My 2c at least.

>>2074402
Look awful.
Like 3/10. Seen worse.

>>2074402
>eagle + atlasmk2 + oldslut
Neat but I think you need to put that bitch on a diet. What do you think of this configuration instead?

>>2074528
Nice and sleek.
Would fly.

>>2073888
>>2074224
just take out the supply fleets so you solve the blockade and steal their nanoforge so you can negotiate to join without tax

>>2074543
can't you also prevent it by having a Hegemony commision? Like if you're a part of the League they won't send AI fleets?

>>2074550
I don't think so, league crisis is based on colony size

>>2074528
looks like a star destroyer but way cooler
would fly

>>2074531
>>2074564
On a side note science finally gave an answer to what would happen if oldslut mated with a radiant and then someone painted that red.

>>2074198
getting called a nigger vs having malware installed via mods and getting gangstalked by troons and chasers because you played the game "wrong"

seems like an easy choice to me

>>2074528
Seen a flat onslaught, kinda like this with two thermal canons. They honestly look cool, did the tahlan great house onslaught like that many moons ago and it look so cool. Shame I deleted it.

>>2074585
That looks pretty good, anon. Make it a 35-45 dp capital with a medium strength ability (not boring ass burn drive or equivalent) and put that in a mod.

>>2074224
>Make 1 colony
>by the time it reaches the size needed to trigger League activity in the first place, you aren't rolling in cash, with a fuckton of ships, and a star fortress next to the planet to grind the motherfucking invasion fleet to dust
Anon, plan ahead a bit more and invest more heavily into your colonies.

>>2074655
60 DP capital with Flare Launcher? Done.
Should I also set some random furfag mod as a forced dependency just for the hell of it?

>start colony
>immediately 50 billion crises and every faction wants to kill me

AAAA FUCK OFF I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY TO FUND MY FLEET REEEEEEEEEEEEEE

git gud

Fuck off attentionwhore

God I love Neoteric Designs' Quasar. This thing is basically a paragon with a high tech orion drive slapped onto it. Took this thing to my fleet and it basically wiped out a grand invasion all by itself.

>>2074854
Forgot image

>>2074855
And yet you built it like dogshit.

>>2074855
What are those side larges?

>>2074868
X-ray Pulse Lasers.
Like a pulse laser but larger.

>>2074855
You're doing it wrong.

>>2074223
>>2074402
>>2074528
>>2074585
Damn these ships good. Are you planning on making a ship pack mod?

>>2074888
why is the Paragon trying to deepthroat the Prometheus

>>2074895
Please understand. Paragon is a bit of a slut.

>some weapons have equivalent weapon types in all sizes
>some weapons only have equivalent weapon types in two sizes
why
why is there not a medium assault gun
why is there not a large mortar
why is there not a small flak gun

>>2074918
>medium assault gun
Assault chaingun
>large mortar
Hellbore
>others
Its missing to upset you.

>>2074918
I don't know about a large mortar but a small flak gun sounds like absolute shit.

>>2074918
WHERE IS SMALL DRAGONFIRE
WHERE IS LARGE HARPOON
ALEX YOU NIGGER AHHH

>>2074922
>assault chaingun
way too short ranged to be a middle point between the small and large assault gun
>hellbore
mortars put out constant, inaccurate but flux efficient damage at slightly below average range, the hellbore doesn't do that

I want small pilums because I am a degenerate asshole.

I want large salamanders because it would be funny.

>>2074918
why are you a nigger
why why
why

>>2074934
>>2074936
>>2074924
Medium Swarmers

>>2074886
What's wrong with autopulse?

>>2074894
well made and good greebling but cowardly symmetricity deducts points

>>2074942
What's your idea for a good looking and functional asymmetrical capital or at least a CA?

what about a 'mega slot' that is larger than the large slot?

>>2073888
Bricked
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>>2074986
Already done by other mods

>>2074986
it'd be neat if alex could officially implement XL slots for spinal weapons and capital ship turrets
and because virtually every mod has some kind of ship with big fuckoff turrets builtin anyways

>>2074942
begone chaotic evil

>>2074175
theres a cointoss chance any mod has malware that ruins your saves now
or any interpersonal drama between trannies will add crashcode to updates that are obfuscated

>>2075031
How fuck must the modding scene be to make the devs come down from the heavens and outright told the modders not to put malware on their mods?
also rapesector update when

I'll make a fork of rapesector
lolirapesector

whats the point of non-capital ships? theres 0 reason not to just field an entire fleet of only capitals

>>2075105
Sure there is and it's a long talk but bottom line is more ships = more ships.

>>2075105
post fleet

>>2074863
That was the old setup way before the grand invasion battle. This is the build that beat the grand invasion

>us AI cores on every single colony
>literally nothing bad ever happens except other humans seething at you and trying to destroy them for some reason

why is AI so le bad in this universe again? the game makes literally 0 effort to show it

>>2075105
hey now you also want two token frigates to cap points

Capital spam solution: escorts
>1 destroyer requires 2 frigates
>1 cruiser requires 2 destroyers (which means 4 total frigates)
>1 capital ship requires 2 cruisers which requires 4 destroyers which requires 8 frigates
And yes, if you lose 1 frigate then you are fucked so you better have spares.
Game fixed. No need to thank me.

>>2075113
1 paragon as my flagship and the rest onslaughts

>>2075121
cap points are kind of useless when you can just blow up the other fleet with your capital ships without ever leaving your starting corner

>>2074918
because those would all be completely uninteresting weapons, and they've all been implemented by mods to demonstrate as much.

>>2075124
6 onslaught is more than 4 onslaught

>>2075126
4 onslaughts are more than enough to kill most fleets though

>>2075128
>most
yes. why are you like this

>>2075129
He's just starved for attention

>>2075129
like what?

>>2075119
>why is AI so le bad in this universe again? the game makes literally 0 effort to show it
something something megacorp taking advantage out of it, and something something religion in space that is against technology (bruh moment)

>>2075119
An AI fucked my ass when I was trying to do a survey commission

>>2075123
how many ordos can you solo?

>>2075159
Why did you phrase that like it's a bad thing?

>>2075119
try relocating an ai core from one world to another
they're absolute control freaks who will crash out and blackmail you
you do not get an option to say "chill, nigga, i'm just moving you"
i assume living on an AI core-administered world fucking sucks considering tritach is run by AIs and they're a corporate cyberpunk dystopia

>>2075165
and before you say "well under john starsector things would be different" that's what andrada thought before he went senile

>>2075165
AI cores seem to just really hate space travel. Even the rando betas you can find in academy missions weirdly enslave the colonists and just turns the base into a communication station instead of just leaving.

>>2075164
I did not consent in that particular instance

>>2075165
>no thank you, i am quite comfortable where i am. i just got this world the way i like it

>>2075169
>rando betas
to be fair I remember those particular betas being subject to some weird academy experiments, possibly the AI equivalent of a lobotomy

>>2074954
Aurora, astral, etc.
Symmetricity is cowardice. They're spaceships, get creative.

>>2074954
None

>>2075317
>aurora
>good looking
literally the ugliest motherfucker in the entire game, maybe the ugliest spaceship I've ever seen in general
an actual good looking asymmetrical ship is the tempest, and... that's pretty much it desu, I could maybe give it to the astral too, and the anubis is not bad either

why does nex add so much useless bloat like outposts or mercenaries why couldnt it just stick to what it was originally about?

>>2075332
it's ok we know you fantasize about being the one getting railed by the bull when you're in your wife's bedroom touching yourself, symmetrycuck

>reading discussion about starsector™
>randomly get pestered by a notification of an anon yapping about his cuck fantasy
please don't do that anymore

>>2075351
>what it was originally about
ie adding bloat

I don't really understand the difference between partrol HQ and Relays
Don't they do the same thing but you can upgrade patrol HQ if you so choose?

>>2075125
plenty of vanilla weapons are completely uninteresting so that's clearly not the reason

bruh how did this happen

>>2075332
I said they were good looking already. They're cowardly though. Anyone can make a triangle. That anon can make a decently greebled triangle. They'll all blur together though if they're all symmetric. There's only so many symmetric ship-shapes.

>>2075401
>There's only so many symmetric ship-shapes
Paragon looks nice and is one of the most instantly recognizable ships, even though its silhouette is kinda just a triangle with a pussy, or a high tech cock ring
Clinging to space tumors just seems like a hack when you can't come up with good simple designs, so you need le quirky to try to "save" the design from being forgettable

I like the Odyssey, it's a lot of fun flying around and broadsiding enemies.

>>2074721
I think the same way. I wish colony-making was something that could be reliably done in the Early or at least Mid-game without attracting a hundred enemy fleets.
Should let you have more colonies that are smaller in size.

>>2075411
I hate the space tumour design so much. Asymmetrical works to an extent, most frigates are fine, something like gryphon or condor you can also see why they are the shape they are and than you have something like aurora or ships with stupid inefficient firing arcs because we dev wants shit to be pre-dreadnaught battleship in space.

>>2075423
shut up lil pussy btch

alright how do i get omega cores

>>2075411
pyw

why does everyone say radiants are so good? whenever i use it just tries to solo the entire enemy fleet and dies in like 30 seconds

>>2075416
yeah colonies should be something you setup early and take a long time to grow instead of getting a couple million people after 2 weeks

>>2075512
FIVE TACHYON LANCES

>>2075516
I tried that but it still tries ramming in to every other ship despite having a ton of range

thoughts on the nova

>>2075190
This isn't my world and the person in charge don't want me here. AutisticScreeching.mp420

>>2075516
What do you do when you run out of tachyons?

>>2075581
Raid tri-tach again

>>2075512
Because it’s the strongest non unique ship in the game

>>2075581
open the console and cheat in more

Will the remants be mad if I colonize a few planets in a yellow beacon system

>>2075581
buy some from the luddic church

>>2075512
>whenever i use it just tries to solo the entire enemy fleet
because when you fit it right, it can actually do this

>>2075589
do you get mad when you find a wasp's nest under your eaves? of course not.

you just exterminate it.

Hey so on the discord i heard the creator of the nsfw mods for the game put in code to override some of secrets of the frontier's code (meaning they probably added spicy stuff for SOTF), anyone know if there's implementation of new content yet and what it is? Considering installing it if it adds content for corefuckers

>>2075657
>Hey so on the discord
fuck off

>>2075658
I'm asking here because i can't ask on the discord with the (literally criminal, as they were complicit in spreading malware) jannies dumbass

>>2075657
Feel free to go back.

>>2075401
Bro I think those designs need far more rearfacing weapons before being called cowardly lol.

>>2075317
Problem with that is the weapons layout. Astral doesn't really give a shit since you know, carrier first two large missiles second. Aurora and Ody? Forward armed out the ass and fast. Eradicator kinda as well. Upscaled apogee has been done to death already.
Then you have the challenge 1 (to my knowledge simply) with not being able to setup dreadnaught style firing arcs. Screws up certain capital ship configurations something fierce. Then there's 2 with height. Capitals have enough canvass to somewhat simulate dimensions but all weapons have the same layer and that will clip like a motherfucker if close enough.

But sure, I don't have a problem with less than conventional setups 3 if you throw some ideas my way and I like em.

>>2075718
What's that 3D model ship? Looks pretty cool.

>>2075723
The punanny.

>>2075704
I'd much rather not. So, new code in rapesector meant to override some SOTF one, can we fuck the cores now or not?

>>2075122
ok then if it's such a game saving idea then make it a mod

Behead those who slander aurora! That ship is a beast in the players hand and AI!

how do I build an invictus so that my AI officers don't constantly eat shit using it

>>2075753
I can't really imagine an easier ship to build for the AI

>>2075755
they use lidar array trying to shoot a frigate they can't lead then eat 50 reapers because the devastator turrets are down
I don't know what to do about this

>>2075760
Escorts, devastators on the sides, converted hangars, stormneedlers, gauss and autocannons... If you in a position to field multiple of them for the AI you shouldn't really worry about their frigates all I'm saying.

>>2075745
It's like a 50/50 between them piloting like an ace or deciding suicide sounds good and charging into the middle of the ennemy blob

>>2075771
The old tested blame it on the RNG then?

>>2075779
Yeah. Though on a player ship, triple heavy blaster + SO is amazing, a really fun tactic is to use the plasma jets to ram into an enemy at the border of the enemy blob and drag them away for an easy, isolated kill

>>2075781
>triple heavy blaster
imagine doing this when you can use like 7 am blasters instead

>>2075786
6 on the inner ring + 2 hvy blaster + sabot pod + SO is one of the oldest builds around

>>2075790
>2 hvy blaster + sabot pod
you dont even need these against anything in the base game

>>2075803
hey rick you be come back again and foir what to spoilage?

>>2075803
That's a very strange thing to say.

>>2075771
Giving your faster AI ships 360 degree shield coverage goes a long way towards keeping them alive. Reckless pilots are a lost cause though.

>>2075843
Yeah, but sometimes even with steady the ai will just feel like shield flickering on a paragon or monitor at 0 flux

>>2075855
Update your game

>>2075826
6x 30 am blaster shots are more than you will ever need

>>2075889
I don't want to give most things the dignity of amblastering them. And if you really piss me off I'll bring mining lasers.

>>2075892
come to a Fairmarket

>>2075411
m8 it's literally a flying omega sign

>10 years later
>aurora? I don't even remember what that was, lol, was it one of the civilian transports?
>paragon? oh yeah that was one of my favs!

>10 cycles later
>*music*

>>2075949
>10 cycles later
>*cums*

>>2075954
you got rapesectored for 10 cycles straight?

>>2075958
more like rapedsector

>>2075727
Do people even say that anymore? Shit's from the 90s

>>2075980
zoomzooms like to say it
ironically

QRD on the modding malware drama?

Go away mongoloid.

why is there one nigga that always instantly seethes when someone asks about modding?

>make shit up
>w-why people no like it
neck yourself cocksucker

I am seething at mods RIGHT NOW

>>2075996
>QRD on the modding malware drama?
just get some popcorn and watch this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pmCvjUO-d8

>>2076000
are you one of the troon modders? who hurt you?
even if anons weren't legitimately asking and were just making shit up to troll why would you get so mad on behalf of some troon modder's reputation

>>2075999
he's quite literally mentally ill

>>2076000
Just ignore the turkler and eventually it'll go away. Xyr's been trying to stir shit ever since it got its ass b& on the official forums for being a dumbass.

>shilling your youtube video
shiggy diggy

What the fuck is this?

>>2076048
>no dorito
Weird. Looks like the special bounty otherwise.

what do you use the harass order for

>>2076112
harassing

>>2076113
dam

>>2076115
it's useless

>>2076117
(it's not)

>>2076112
Keeping a motherfucker busy until your real hitters come around for the kill

>>2076118
ok, it has a use, but that use is useless

>>2076120
no seriously
it's fucking great to keep certain ships alive or to bully doritos or radiants early game without blowing up

What's your favorite fast battleship

Is there a mod to make the core sector bigger? The amount of planets factions have in vanilla is way too small and i dont to use bloatrellion to make them colonize or any OC donut factions.

>>2076128
yes

>>2076129
what is it

>>2076130
You're shitting me.

>>2076132
very helpful thank you

so the anon, who made the standalone metafalica still here? did he at least drop the file?

>>2076177
you just missed him, he said he had to see a guy about a duck

>>2076193
I wanna _uck that duck.

why doesnt alex just let us choose officers skills after mentoring them? fucking hate it when i waste a skill point on them only to not get what i actually want.

>>2076195
microfalicas need not apply

>>2076200
he do not play his game
also you can change this in the setting file but yeah its annoying

>>2076204
You lot will bitch about anything. You want a toaster that's easy to reprogram? Use a core.

>>2076210
fuck off bugger

>can't respec officers
>can't keep contact with dismissed officers either, so when you get to mixmax officers it just means you're stuck with that
>30% tax all the time
>pirate market sells better quality ships AND at a lower price than open market (what the actual fuck)
>tech mining
ALEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEXX

>>2076215
>>can't respec officers
mods fix it
>>can't keep contact with dismissed officers either, so when you get to mixmax officers it just means you're stuck with that
mods fix it
>>30% tax all the time
mods fix it
>>pirate market sells better quality ships AND at a lower price than open market (what the actual fuck)
mods fix it
>>tech mining
mods fix it
>ALEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEXX
better games fix it

>>2076225
>better games fix it
name (one) 1

>>2076226
rimworld when the new dlc comes out

>>2076230
you know you could already play the new dlc if you just download all the mods separately that already exist. the dev of rimworld just copies existing ones and bundles it as new "dlc". imagine if Alex was as greedy with the mod community and would try to sell the free content as dlc.... would be grim

>>2076233
most of the time theyre better than the mod counterpart though and im not a paypiggy who buys dlcs instead of just pirating them lmao so i dont care if he makes dlcs out of them

Its literally impossible to play this game without speedup it should just be integrated into the main game.

>>2076230
what the other anon said, and rimworld can't ever be the same thing
for me if the game leaned more to the side of something like reassembly and high quality 4x elements but not bloated would be better than leaning into colony sim like rimworld

>>2076233
To be fair, instituting an official baseline of a given feature-set allows a lot more modding on top of it. And comes with an obligation they'll KEEP working together and with updates to the base game.

Its literally impossible to play this game without rapesector it should just be integrated into the main game.

>>2076346
Would it really be rapesector if it didn't force itself on the game community?

>>2075122
This is bullshit
You only need 1 single afflictor to beat the game even with mods

>>2075122
That would work if the escort ai was good, in reality this just makes the frigates suicide themselves in front of the bigger ships

>>2076446
And also get pushed to the front when the mighty Paragon decides to raise shields and ram the escort into the enemy line. I've lost quite a few cruisers on escort duty because of that dick move.

>>2075657
What is the discord? Asking for a friend.

>>2076346
Is it worth playing an outdated version of the game for it? I'm completely new but I enjoy this kind of mod.

>>2076500
Can't you just change a single number in a single text fire like the rest of us?

>>2076507
I thought the mod didn't work with the newest version?

>>2076512
I'm raping and petting heads just fine.

>>2076516
I'll give it a shot, thanks.

Weird how there is no Macross themed mods with idols and bazillion lasers and shiet
I swear I should start modding it myself, zero good mods besides few graphical improvements and qol

>>2076591
diable avionics is just a macross mod without a bunch of singing little girls

>>2076592
That sounds retarded and gay.

>>2076500
You'll get bored in less than five minutes. I like the concept but it's fucking barren with content.

I've come to realize we need one of these for SS

>>2075317
You're not giving me anything to work with but here's something.

>>2076718
penis...

>>2076725
imagine being so gay you look at ships and see cocks

>>2076718
Executor raped his little sister Anubis and this inbred bastard is the result

>>2076718
On the good ship ISS Venus
By Ludd you should have seen us
The figurehead was a whore in bed
Sucking a dead man's penis

>>2076730
I do believe there's 12 or so different ships in there.

>>2075512
Five large slots(And four medium missiles) all pointed in the same direction, Incredible flux stats and shield efficiency and the ship system makes it game breakingly mobile for how much raw firepower it has. Tank an entire fleet and jump back three times to vent, jump forward three times and instantly destroy any ship that's not a paragon or monitor with fortress shield activated.

>>2076734
>I do believe there's 12 or so different ships in there
It's the inbreeding anomalies

>>2076718
>buttplug with a twist

where is my large slot vulcan

>>2076346
>rapesector dev didn't add CK mechanics
It's over.

>>2076742
It is a pegasus derivative...

>>2076751
That's what he said.

>>2076718
>A missile ship shaped like a Loony Tunes bomb.
I like the theming.

How about this direction then?

>>2076764
>tech mismatch
I am underneath your bed.

>>2076765
Say hi to my .380 and ashtray. How are the lines looking?

Any mods with a "fine tune" option that lets you improve ship stats at the cost of increasing deployment cost? So you can keep a small fleet but still remain viable.

>>2076793
>keep a small fleet but still remain viable
Honest to God this is a skill issue.

>>2076764
If you made the Medusa-derived engine "flanges" just the tiniest bit more angular, it would be perfect. It looks beefy and dependable, I'd definitely fly something like this.
There are some stray pixels in front of the ship's prow and to the left of the spine, by the way.

>>2076764
can you just do paint jobs for existing hulls?

>>2076806
NTA, but you can use any image editing software's colour curves for basically anything. Just select the bits you want to recolour, fiddle around, and you'll get what you want.

>>2076808
how to do it, what software?
I only used gimp back day and paint and was never good with it

>>2076811
I also use GIMP, it's in the top bar. Pic related.

>>2076812
huh, thanks

>>2076804
That was the idea, yes. Not married to the top part either unfortunately. I got a bug about adding nova parts and it threw a wrench in the whole deal.

>>2076806
>palette swaps
Brother my MagicAchievementsVanillaPack folder is just shy of 200mbs. And that one doesn't have any parts or wips.

>>2076815
>MagicAchievementsVanillaPack
nice
I almost do not use mods but maybe I will check it

>>2076815
Who the fuck took a bite out of my battleship?

>>2076816
I only use it for the convenience of its paintjob feature. As for the program use what you find comfortable. I mostly switched from corel to paint.net a few years back because its very easy to make plugins for and it runs on a potato, and never looked back.

>>2076764
>>2076804
>>2076815
looks nice

>>2076815
lmao this looks so dumb, give me back the butt plug!

what's the least starsectorlike ship in any starsector mod (or even vanilla)

>>2076853
probably the literal baguette

>>2076804
>iss battleaxe

>>2076850
No. The what's turning out to be a gryphon on anabolic steroids is growing on me.

what battle size are you playing?
default is knd of small

>>2076880
she said it was big enough

>>2076880
balance gets worse the further you go from 400

>>2076880
800
Seeing several swarms of ships duking out is such an appeal to me

is there a setting that affect how many skills officers get on level up?
anyone can point me to it?

>>2076872
That's a fucked up looking hand

>>2076953
I now imagine the middle finger as the large slots being ballistic and the system AAF

>>2076953
>he doesn't have 2+5 fingers per hand
bro do you even game

>>2076959
No, I shitpost about playing games on 4chan

>>2076625
>puts a bounty on your head

>>2076972
>assassination bounty instead of a rape bounty

>>2076995
>posting instead of taking meds

>>2076998
>posts about others taking meds all day but xe thinks ximself doesn't need any

why do i have to pay tariffs in my own colony, how the fuck does that make any sense?

Is ashes of the domain good or is it just bloat like industrial revolution?

>>2077016
The mod has its own website

>>2076793
imperium has a hullmod called elite package which makes the ship more expensive to deploy

>>2076947
no but you can just increase the max level of officers in settings.json to get more skills overall

>>2077019
I tried to go through it and i still dont know what it does

>>2073976
cringe

>>2077016
aotd is far more bloat than indevo even with those retarded ass pets whose food keeps spawning even when disabled in the settings

Hmm... Today I will bombard Chalcedon.

I love Dominators. How's the Champion? Especially in AI hands. I've heard that's the closest midline has to a Dominator.
>>2077016
The colony and research stuff I didn't find bloated at all. I've been playing with vanilla colonies for a long time, so it was a nice change of pace as well. The commission one is only fun with Nexerelin, if you want to roleplay a certain faction.

>>2077043
Completely different to a dominator

>>2077043
does exactly the same shit as a dominator

>>2077043
I don't know what dominators or champions do

>>2077043
I only use Eradicators

>>2077043
I only use high tech ships

What happened to the buckbreaker mega?

>>2077106
it get broken, haha
local buckbreaker not so though after being broken

>>2077109
damn
I was planning to contribute some sprites for it
Guess I'll just delete em now that its useless

Only habitable worlds should be colonizable it makes no sense how millions of people can live on a fucking rock or a gas giant

>>2077135
I should be able to colonise every celestial object, including stars and black holes.

>>2077135
>>2077141
considering how you can just fly into a black hole's event horizon and the only thing that happens is your crew gets a bit dizzy so they perform worse at combat for some time, I think that colonizing some random rock isn't a problem for the people out there

>>2077106
>>2077109
>>2077117
OG buckbreaker here, I let some anon take as you were generating too much content for me to add. I've maintained the original hullmod as it was becoming evident he was being corrupted. I suspect he's imploded. Not everyone can handle the buck.

>>2077177
Well some dude managed to turn all the ships in that mega into actual ships but there's really only 1 weapon there
kinda sucks that there aren't more guns

guys...
are carriers bad?

>>2076605
Isn't it supposed to add some pretty fun shit like a grappling hook weapon too? Also has it been updated?

It's a shame most mods can't be added midsave, domain phase lab seems kinda fun, and if the thing about rapesector or some other nsfw mod alledgedly now including code to override some of secret's of the frontier code is true i'd download it

>>2076793
Afflictor + 3 am blasters and phase anchor solos medium to large ennemy fleets if you're skilled. That + 2 auroras to finish off any remaining ennemies beat basically anything that doesn't have full shields or isnt the threat

>>2077016
It's pretty good, just disable the colony events, there's one that unavoidably destroys your colony with no counter (it sends a big remnant fleet after your colony, and even if you destroy it, it taunts you and then destroys the colony anyways)

>>2077451
>he needs aurora fluffers
>can't beat threat with it
>can't beat omnishields with it
lmao

>>2077135
wrong

>>2077135
>habitable
The only thing that matters is if it's profitable.

>one of a kind experimental, bio-synthetic sentient ship that rapes p-space going in and out and requires the pilot to be (textbook definition) vored in order to enter and pilot it, often leaving them mindraped afterwards.
how is this not a fetish lmao

>>2077519
>how is this not a fetish
Well if it was my fetish, I would rape the ship back to assert dominance.

>>2077519
play meme mods
get memed on

>>2077541
This, do something degrading, like sodomizing her in an exhaust port like I did once to a Mazda Miata

>>2077519
>after the pilots are forcibly taken off the ship they experience withdrawal
sure bro

>>2077106
it died due to prolonged periods of nothing ever happening

There's a serious lack of anime-style ships, especially the kinds LOGH/Bodacious Space Pirates have. Maybe adapting Infinite Space ships might be a good start

>>2077661
plenty mods have such ships already

>>2077610
s-sauce?

>>2077668
What about the Absoluta? It's a goddamn rectangle, for god's sake

>>2077674
well that's a bit tricky one when we only have top down view of ships. just have to use imagination with the slender ones

>>2077661
diable avionics

>>2077676
You can convert the sides of the ship into the top of the ship like this shitty sketch of a sprite

>>2077668
Don't encourage the retarded

>>2077668
Don't retard the encouraged

>>2077676
Damn that's shit

Homeworld mod when?

>>2077733
Already a thing
It's called DME and Magellan

Any new juicy drama with Starsector modding trannies??

Breaking news regarding Starsector modding:
>>2077759's partner left him after they found out he's pregnant

>>2077043
The Champion is awesome and you can fit it pretty nicely. You can always find a place for it in your fleet.
>brawling
Autopulse and Cyclone Reaper.
>long-range
HIL, Squall, and ECCM.
The only thing I wouldn't do with it is PD, because you'd need to waste the large energy on a Paladin when the Anubis could do that twice as well.
>>2077759
>can you tell me what's happening among secondaries on discord instead of discussing the game??

>>2077809
I stopped playing starsector a while ago and im gearing to reinstall it eventually after years spent on .95.
Im just asking if there is some juicy tranny drama for me to laugh at because i enjoy it in the absence of my ability to just kill these fucking trannies and degenerates.

>>2077813
Kill yourself.

>>2077814
Not a tranny so sorry i wont.

>>2077759
>>2077813
yes, there's new drama

>waited for the Persean blockade fleet to move out from Kazeron
>caught both of their supply fleets in a single battle
>beat the shit out of them
>entire blockade is ended before it starts with a minor relations hit

>>2077825
>just nuking the fleet traveling into your system in hyperspace with transponder off
Best fucking feeling.

>>2077831
>not being able to salvage them
Soins so wasteful and antisemitic

>>2077825
fleet logistics for the AI actually exist?

>>2077877
No, it's just a mechanic the blockade has.

>>2077877
There are almost no systems in place for doing anything, so if you have to ask yourself if there's a system in place for it the answer is always no.

Does Rapesector already include TNP's functionalities? Or will I benefit from having TNP (the clean version) alongside it?

>>2076957
oh that looks nice, nice color too.

>>2077896
>TNP's functionalities
like what?

>>2077913
Malware and troon support hotlines

Oh shit they're sending in the tankers

>>2077995
Ludd is coming for you

>>2077995
why does the ai do this when they are just going to turn them around and try to flee.

>>2078041
Has to do with their fleet still being too big to allow retreating. Alex acknowledged that it’s a bug, but said fixing it would make something else worse.

Is there a "transfer everything" when moving things to a storage? Having to click each weapon I want to stash is very annoying.

>>2078161
no
hold alt and put your mouse over an item

>>2078162
Thanks, I can work with this.

>>2078100
yeah it would remove the most satisfying part of the battle

Popping atlases is fun

Why the fuck does HMI add all of these retarded meme names to ships?

>>2078238
Are they any more retarded or meme than the vanilla names?

>>2078041
suicide is onry option after shamefur display

>>2077825
>>2077831
>not taking every single fleet in a single engagement head-on, hoping to god you don't run out of CR as you kill Pegasus after Pegasus after Pegasus
>>2078041
They think they're IEDs

does nexerelin's strategic ai do anything?

>>2078310
yes
factions will generally do stuff that kind of makes sense instead of arbitrary nonsense, befriending factions that have mutual enemies/are stronger than they are etc

Nexerelin but it adds ground combat/boarding similar to Quasimorph

>>2078233
About that. Me and the boys over at Kapteyn had a chat and brother, we're tired of your shit.

>>2078310
It will take them ingame years, but they will colonise outlying systems.
Hegemony in my game has already wiped out two factions as well.

Seen some interesting ship designs this thread, with variants made very quickly. What kind of tools do you use to make the sprites, are there any good resources to learn how to do it as a total beginner?

Also, is there any precedent for having a weapon switch it's damage type mid-combat, such as loading a different ammo type in a big gun?

What happens when it reaches 0. Will they fuck off and let me live in peace with ai friends.

very sad that other homosexuals exist despite the death of turkler
i wish i could kill him a few more times

>>2078745
>very quickly
debatable, that
Find some program you're comfortable with that supports transparency and do a palette swap on a vanilla ship. Then do it fifty more times. Then practice turning low tech into high or such. Then practice drawing or retouching sprites from scratch.
Don't go overboard on filters, try to match the vanilla saturation and contrast as much as possible (simply because that's a nice and uniform standard to compare with) and for the love of ludd don't do muh mod ships with gorillion + 1 weapon slots.

>>2078792
>mod ships with gorillion + 1 weapon slots.
Whoops.

>>2078802
Bro, that's not even top 500. I don't know seems boring af to just make a supership (especially since those already come dime a dozen) when you could do something interesting instead but to each their own.

>>2078792

I understood what some of those words meant! I'm afraid I wasn't kidding about being a total beginner to this, but I'll practice as you suggest once I get the tooling. Can the images in this game be "decompressed" into all their constituent layers so that I can see how they were done, or are we stuck with reverse engineering "baked" final results?

>>2078832
You should ask Alex direct, he'll likely share one as an example.

>>2078832
Afraid not but I'm sure there's a pajeet on youtube doing tutorials if you're that clueless where to start.

Jesus. There's now a whole lot of posts and not a lot of pics. Show me your cursed builds!

>>2078841
And ships, too. Just post curse starsector things in general

>>2078844
>>2078841
Sure. But first post some you didn't lift from google.

>>2078847
These are old pics from the forum, back when the game was named "Starfarer". I really wish this concept was expanded in modern Starsector

>>2078848
Starsector is a good game... on paper

We have the Executor at home
Executor at home:

You drunk or something?

>>2078853
Just taking you on a trip to nostalgialand. This game had been going on for 15 years, why not just relax a little?

>>2078852
isnt that just a dummy thicc conquest

>>2078841
I've worked a bit on this last year, but I lost interest due to IRL shit and haven't touched it since then. I wanted to make a whole quest around it, too, something you could beat around midgame in a vanilla playthrough.
I really need to come up with a better livery for it. I'm intentionally trying to be gaudy since >pirate, but this ain't it.

>>2078907
The skull is neat but jesus h christ that color scheme is eyeshredding

>>2078916
>Razzle Dazzle Camo
>Eyeshredding
Anon, that's a feature, not a bug.

>>2078841
>>2078907
Get anally fucked
the eyes are abyssal gazes

>>2078922
You get to call that a feature only if you're intentionally going for that romanian gigolo vibe. you really gave it your all with that contrast slider huh?
I think you should move the skull. It's way on the nose cartoon style vs somewhat grudge realistic most things do. For my taste at least.

>>2078759
if a faction has 0 markets left, they get wiped out, so inspections should cease

>>2078916
Yeah, I didn't really know what to do to give it a memorable livery, beyond making some basic palette swaps back in the day. I feel that even the vanilla pirate ships don't have much beyond being slathered in red, so I need to think of something less horrific - maybe some more subdued tribals all over the ship?
>>2078975
The skull is supposed to be a tacky and "intimidating" add-on, so I don't know where else could give that same effect - and besides, the Paragon's got the space right there.
Speaking of grunge, I'll add some Atlas II bits onto it to give it a more salvaged feel.
>>2078973
This is fucking SICK

>>2078973
Metal af. But where the small missiles at?

>>2079008
My man. Shading =/= turning contrast up to 11.

>>2079018
>But where the small missiles at?
Pirate ship remember?
removed for more space for engine upgrades
those chrome pipes aren't cheap ya know

>>2079055
>removed
That's gayer than related. Who gets rid of torpedo slots?

>>2079005
I still see inspection fleets loitering around my planets like roaches, hope they don't respawn and eventually die out.

>>2079008
the skull is facing backwards

>>2079231
Indeed. I can't see the teeth. It's not a real skull

Ayo why do ships back off when dey enemy is fluxed out overloaded n shiet and dey a finna a gonna have flux n rawkets n shiet to murk dem bitches? It do be like that fo years n shiet.

>>2079271
The AI sometimes sees the enemy being high on flux as an opportunity to vent its own flux, my good nigger

>>2079317
Not really. Usually it will awkwardly linger some distance away with it's shield still up even when there's nothing that could threaten it nearby.

>>2079062
Torpedo slots on the fucking sides?
The fuck you gonna do
BROADSIDE with it?

>>2079393
Yes. Fart drive past them and give them that reaper prostate exam. Time your shart right and they launch at mach 5000.

>>2079419
Sounds stupid
glad they got rid of it

>>2079422
Alright? No one is forcing you to enjoy high yield ordinance ripping your enemies apart.

>>2079428
The only high-yield ordinance you should care about are the built-in eye lasers

>>2079435
I don't agree. Again, it's metal as all fuck and I do love the design but torps are torps. And if you want to seethe about it until ludd comes back that's your choice.

>>2078808
>The giganigga 5000

>>2077944
there is a RS discord so probably

are there any ways to decrease save file sizes because at this point my games dont even save because they take too long

>>2079540
Your omega core PC?

>>2079540
save compression is on by default. beyond that yell at alex for designing the game to serialize fucking everything

>>2078446
That doesn't look as scary as the junker station

>>2079623
Dunno. Turned out pretty nasty so far and I just don't have the heart to continue and start removing slots.

gf left me because I have ED shipyards

>>2079634
lmao grim

Decided to probe the abyss of Fossic and damn, this one guy made a worthy DME successor

>>2079782
Better than DME

>>2079850
Nod an accomplishment.

>>2079782
>>2079850
Both look like trash.

>>2079850
Link to the fossic page.
https://www.fossic.org/thread-12809-1-1.html

Also, on an unrelated note, i love google translate's attempt to translate the chinese-translated version of the EN mods

>>2079853
Stacks of Conquest

>>2079878
Frfr new hi tech ship looks FIRE.

>>2079878
I just love the aurora from the crime syndicate mod. Looks so clean.

>>2079878
Wow the rumors about the TroonSector total-conversion mod were true. Their flagship, the TRS Prolapse, looks "fabulous". Get shartley and nia on the hotline to hype it.

>>2080035
That's BAD Dragon from Furco Directorate, dumbass.

>>2080144
Salivate much?

>>2080147
Actually Salivate is the ship system on their Horse class ships, the Dragon class has Deep Penetration as a ship system.

>>2080155
alex hire this man

>>2073714 (OP)
Do distress signal ever work?

>>2080335
Yeah, just do it once and sit near the innermost jump point. It can take a while, and spamming it or sitting at the wrong jump point fucks it.

>>2079878
A ramming focused ship, intredasting.

>>2080338
Im fucked then, theres only a fringe and outer jump point

Does high command structure sends patrols or something to your other colonies at nearby systems? The description says stuff about transtellar empires and operations across the sector but i never paid enough attention in-game to know if it actually did that or if it’s just flavor text, in reality simply making patrols in the colony it was built on stronger
>>2080347
You’re only fucked if you’re running out of supplies or if something’s eating your credits while you wait it out. Just signal on a jump point and hope a good samaritan comes your way

Besides the freebies near the Alpha Site and Hypershunts, is there no way to get Omega weaponry?

>>2079634
based gf

>>2080352
>Does high command structure sends patrols or something to your other colonies at nearby systems?
no

>>2080359
There's a bounty for high importance contacts as well

>>2080352
It only makes your patrol larger. its extremely fun if you get 3 high command on high danger redacted systems

>>2080370
That's a waste and a half.

>>2080370
babysitting multiple planets against ordos for a year doesn't sound fun at all

so what does the VST hivemind think about the niagara class ship from torchships?

>>2080428
Worse yet they'll continue to fuck with the shipping and you get no cores or resources unless you're using a few very specific mods that have in system salvaging industries. Also you ruin a convenient refueling station. I love having a high danger close to core and bounties on the east fringe and letting my salvage nigs earn their keep.

>>2079878
the mounts are placed wrong

>>2080435
I've never seen them do anything at all ever. They lag behind the enemy line and then get swarmed and das it.

>>2080438
>>2080440

>>2080435
Ship system is busted. It's an infinite duration mobility system that stacks with the zero-flux boost (unlike every other mobility system) which pretty much negates the whole point of the ship being 'slow'. It doesn't work as described and can also operate in reverse.

bruh why didnt you tell me i can exchange blueprints at prism freeports you fucking KIKES

>>2079878
Is this HTE or Tahlan new ship?

>>2080499
you should be selling all your blueprints to pirate stations

>>2078802

This is just cool, where's it from?

>>2080495
>retarded modshit
say it ain't so

>>2080435
>top speed 19
may aswell not exist

>>2080533
It's just a random shitbash I made up, not a part of any released mods.

>>2080562
but isn't it part of the lazy dogshit pack?

>>2080559
hyper engines: am I a joke to you?

>>2080435
What about the Quasar, from Neoteric Designs?

>>2079231
>>2079260
>I can make the skull bite the cables
It's time to work.

>>2073888
Yeah. By not joining the league and just BTFOing them several times.

>>2077896
You can't run both at the same time
TNP doesn't even function anymore
it doesn't capture anything or anyone

>>2080466
What is this from?

>>2080652
its a nova x paragon hybrid that sucks because it lost its ATC

>>2076376
kek

viable or bricked? Skills are elite field mod/helmsmanship/ordnance expertise

>>2080849
It's like to saw a good idea but fucked it along the way. Way too many vents vs caps, middle am is short to join its brethren, lack of dual autopulse is very sad to see. Shield front is imho much worse than faster shields on ody.
Those auroras are concerning.

>>2080851
Front shields were for the flat damage reduction, and since the AM blasters are all front facing arcs, it made sense to me. The rest of the small slots don't have the arc needed. I could swap out the Paladins for Autopulse easy but Paladins do double-duty as PD and to keep pressure up. The Auroras are just SO shield tanks with three Heavy Blasters and Sabot spam, not optimal but they're what I could throw together at campaign start since I don't have industry to build stuff yet. I'll get around to making them not sub-optimal.

>>2080851
>>2080868
Forgot to say that with the Smodded front shields it has 40% total damage reduction to shields, with stabilised shields that's 10% hard flux to soft flux and with that many vents it may as well be 50% total damage reduction, plus the elite field mod giving 20% hard flux dissapation, which the huge amount of vents helps with too.

>>2080868
I just find it weird you're running the more expensive auroras instead of eagles for that. And no ams on auroras either. Hardened shields on a knife fighter that has only 8 caps is less than desirable. Your main (if not only) proper shield breakers being limited sabots is asking for trouble.

If you want earlish game close range assblasting you're looking for something like this instead. You're looking like you wanted to build a sniper but changed your mind half way there with something that neither has the damage on range nor staying power up close.

>>2080874
those modifiers are not additive

fuck zodiac signs which odyssey small energy mount are you

>>2080987
40% total damage reduction, then 10% of the remaining is converted to soft flux (6% of original damage), then the remaining 90% hard flux is dissapated at 20% of the normal rate.

>>2081041
you're a moron

>>2081033
The useless one next to the hangar

>>2081041
>then the remaining 90% hard flux is dissapated at 20% of the normal rate
You might want to reread carefully what s-mod stab shields actually do.

>>2080849
>trying to turn an odyssey into a tank
Bricked as soon as you face something stronger than a pirate

>>2081075
Elite field modulation

>>2081065
I accept your concession

>>2080895
I was running the Auroras because I like my fleets being one tech group. Also I couldn't get the AMB odyssey to work well so I just did a triple autopulse.
>inb4 why not put a large missile
Because it's bricked with smodded front shields and that mount actually has a forward facing arc.

>we're back to posting intentionally shit builds
Alright faggot you got your replies.

>>2081166
What would it take to convince you that I'm actually just not very good at the game? It's really fucking funny that you think I get my kicks posting shit builds for M&B Space Edition.

Odysseybro, I want you to try your build against any big deserter fleet. Post results.

>>2081187
He's just shitposting for attention

>>2081187
Pick

>>2081206
Hey, at least it's funny.
>>2081211
Heg. If a TT one comes up, take it too.

>>2081211
seen funnier names

>>2081213
I fought a TT one before, was the most difficult so far, had a Paragon and four Dooms, I lost most of my frigates.

What does a ship need to be capable of for you to consider its loadout to be "good"?

>>2081326
1. Win fights within its weight class.
2. Not get bullied by fighters.
3. If it's big, win against multiple small things.
4. If it's small, not get vaporized by big things.
5. Look cool.

>>2081174
the thread dies without discussion and people (not you specifically) want to attentionwhore and they cant attentionwhore if the thread is dead
simple as

>>2081326
have atleast some of these 3 weapons
>am blaster
>high velocity driver
>reaper
preferably atleast 2 unless its a harbinger which means its op anyway

are unique ship drops on bounties guaranteed or should i reload if i dont get a ship that i intended to get

>>2081402
The troon asked for good not meme material. But we do agree on 2/3 of those weapons being bis at what they do.

>>2081639
there should be a lunalib setting to make sure they are or if you dont use lunalib theres a config in the mod folder too iirc

>>2081402
>hvel
lol, lmao

>>2081654
enjoy not fighting back because you are at 99% flux at all times lmao

hear me out. invictus with bobulated armor

>>2081720
>bobulated armor
Who is Bob and what did he do to the armor

>>2081785
everything

>>2081796
so it would effectively have what? 500 armor strength

>>2081796
Very balanced. I swear the broken shit that's out there

>have an entire colony full of AI cores and run by AI
>luddic majority doesnt care
>build some mines or a military base to defend the colony
>luddic majority reees and leaves

what the fuck is their problem?

>>2081824
this + exotica buffs = 22dp to kill an entire invasion fleet

>>2081825
they just want to work a comfy job bro

>>2081833
but why are they against military bases when the church tried to kidnap them?

The Threat keeps kicking my fucking ass, what ships should I have in my fleet and how do I build my capitals to take them on?

>>2081891
what exactly is kicking your fucking ass?
it's a DPS check, you have to go all in on DPS and have enough armor to tank and get pd get rid of the bee swarms, mobility also helps a lot to move up the map fast

>>2081832
>permanent time dilation
>counts for fighters too
Alright that made me chuckle.

>>2081891
Go close. Blow shit up.

Help me anons

Help me escape from this modded hell

>>2081927
Just boot up vanilla and get in a gremlin.

Is there a mod that just lets the AI colonize and make their planets grow? I would use nex but its full of bloat that i dont want

Damn we hit the post limit. I hope next thread has more ship pics or maybe mod progress pics

>>2081911
well the fabricators are checking me faster than I can kill their shit and the small ships cuck my flux by having me activate my shields in order to not power down my weapons
here's my paragon

>>2081968
get pd anubis and use the oldslut

>>2081968
Anon, can I ask what was the design idea behind that para?

>>2081991
Plasma cannons for a front point heavy hitter for big ships
Abyssal gaze for constant long range dps, great at taking out destroyers and frigates and keeping pressure on Cruisers and Capitals,
Burst PD, for PD
The spookyflamethrowers to do heavy shield damage and also keep pressure (I turn them on and off when I need them because they are quite flux hungry)
Shrouded Mantle to get me out of tight sptos (sometimes this works against me as sometimes I'm almost at flux capacity but the enemy capital is about to go down and the jump takes me too far away)
Shrouded Thunderhead? I didn't know how to increase DPS and what to do witht the extra 25 DP

>>2082000
Sorry, meant OP, not DP

>>2081968
>flux issues on paragon
>no stabilized shields
anon pls

>>2082000
>The spookyflamethrowers
>(I turn them on and off when I need them because they are quite flux hungry)
Alright, based. I'd go a different way but I like this.

>Shrouded Thunderhead? I didn't know how to increase DPS and what to do witht the extra 25 DP
You don't really have too many fast firing hard flux wpns and those actually kill your dps by filling your flux faster.

>Abyssal gaze for constant long range dps, great at taking out destroyers and frigates and keeping pressure on Cruisers and Capitals,
Burst PD, for PD
You've got short range torps, long range lasers with no additional range extension para excels at and no long range shieldbreaking. Dual plasma and dual flamers will break shields but at much shorter range and you can fry an egg on that para that's going to have trouble venting after. Burst PD is not worth it without expanded magazines and that range.

>>2082032
So drop drop the Thunderhead, drop the torps and put on some, Hammers? or rather drop missiles completely and put on more PD shit + expanded magazines

>>2082040
Not necessarily if it works for you and it's fun and effective to fly but how about optimize for particular role a bit more? You got expanded mags so what else works with those. You have torps so you should have good shield breaking to compliment it and if both are short-medium range you need speed to close the gap etc. Get it?

I rarely fly paras these days but this thing is a pipe dream to win a flux war against, can shred most things up close and most surprisingly is rather fast if you keep your 0-flux up. Would work like a charm with thunderhead as well. That's not saying it's the ONLY way to build a para. They make for some mean snipers as well.

Help me convince someone else this is complete dogshit

>>2082132
This looks like something I'd use if a friendly pather wanted to sell me one for 50k space dolla at the very beginning of the game and these guns would be the only thing available for sale at that planet.

>>2082132
When your cat takes a shit on your keyboard and that comes out on your screen it's not time for convincing. It's time to spade and neuter that bitch. And then get a dog.

>>2082132
>empty large missile
1-800-cmon

emags APL paragon is the gayest fit possible, prove me wrong

>>2082227
Refer to >>2080438

Come and take it Hegemony fags

you didn't beat the game

>>2082229
that's a .hull not a .variant

*.ship

make up your mind alex half the time they're hulls half the time they're ships

>>2082231
>bigbonia
what is this, a planet of fatties

>>2082238
You're a .hull not a .variant

>>2082242
that's right i'm very base(d)

>>2082234
what are you even trying to imply with this cry for help (attention)?

>>2082247
he's in need of rape correction

>>2082247
the lack of crucial strategic resources

>>2082245
Based on a cartoon character more like it.

>>2082231
>no commerce
anon you are missing on the absolute best industry
Commerce should be built everywhere nad should be the first industry to put story points and an Alpha core.

>>2082132
did you pull this shitfit from youtube, discord, or reddit

>>2082241
No, they're just big boned

>>2081161
Xyphos support fighters are really good anon. Since they are support, the ai will send the to their death and they have an ion beam and burst pd as weapons. With 2x2 of those you can remove all your pds.

>>2082348
*will NOT send them to their death

>>2082348
>>2082353
I since removed the Wasps and replaced them with Sparks and removed two of the PD lasers. I tend to pilot this with two Anubis flanking and 6 squads of Wasps is usually enough to overwhelm any fighters/missiles.

Just started this campaign and the game is throwing this at me... Looks like I'm gonna have to mothball it and stash it...

>>2082403
>legion

lol nope throw it into the trashbin

so what am i supposed to do after building some colonies that make a bunch of money and a good fleet that beats everyone?

>>2082410
saturation bombardment

>>2082132
>reinforced bulkhead
im not even going to look at anything else

>>2082410
restart

>>2082231
>missing alpha cores on the defenses
>no planetary shield
pathetic

odysseys look like a meme ship but theyre actually really good wtf

>>2082410
Bully eventide into decivilization

>>2082410
saturation bombardment on every inhabited world and then abandon your colonies

>>2082410
Go into the abyss

>>2082410
squeeze your hog

>>2079878
>no hardpoint at the tip
you had one fucking job

>>no hardpoint at the tip
That's some low energy shitposting my dude

I challenge you to design a balanced 240dp ship

>>2082487
odyssey is probably the best capital in player hands
all it needs is 2 plasma cannons, 1 squall, one pilum launcher and two typhoon reapers

>>2082619
I prefer autopulse personally

>>2082616
it's ziggurat at 240 dp

>>2082487
It's a fast high tech carrier armed out the ass. What's the confusion?

>>2082231
>200 hazard rating
>only 140k credits a month with nearly everything maxed out
You can keep it

>>2082704
>rapes your 200% fleetsize, 2000 defense gay little commerce ""colony"" with 8 fleets
whatcha gon do bout it spaisaboi

>>2082783
Build 10 more with the money I got from it.

>>2082783
Hop into my single afflictor and end your entire existence.

>>2082410
install some mods and start a new game

>>2082784
>also rapes those
you broke now spaisa

>>2082790
>HILs your flux until you stop being a little nigger in p-space
you done for lil echouboi

>>2082616
Nagato already exists.

whats the point of tactical lasers they deal literally no damage even when shields are down

>>2082813
Anon, you're drunk. Sleep it off.

>>2082821
Serious question?

>>2082825
yes whats the point theyre useless

>>2082821
they keep shields up

>>2082828
First they're super cheap and extremely flexible for small energy that does universal energy damage. For PD value they target bombers as well and they damage missiles and such in line.
At long range they have good base range and that can be boosted in the 1200-1500u+ territory without much hassle. Works very well on some sniper or brawler builds.
At short range they greatly benefit from both skill and scatter mod and can do significantly more than that 75e dps which is already respectable when compared to small IR that does 50. A battery of them can do some serious work (for very little flux) if you also have some dedicated armor stripping.

>>2082828
If you fill a paragon or something with them and max out the range you can harass ships and force them to keep their shields up from across the screen.

>>2082828
You just suck at using them bruv

>>2082848
? ir pulse does 150 dps, if your talking about hit strength the tactical laser gets halved due to being a continuous beam.

Total...War!

>>2082989
It is on paper but allow me to elaborate. Beams have their hit strength vs armor halved, absolutely true. But the reason for that is because they play by different rules when it comes to armor or more specifically residual armor. Now let's be real, you're not going to chew thru any armor tougher than falcons with either IRs or TACs in anything resembling hurry but TACs have one really neat application on manual fire especially. They're like all beams with okayish turn rate as accurate as can be on all ranges. And if you've got a bunch on manual fire they're not only able to provide cheap (and if that's what you're looking for long range) finishers but they can do it accurately without shotgunning and spreading their damage on undamaged bits or suffer from residual armor. 4+ of them will also provide good cover from any incoming torps or missiles directly flying your way thru their firing path. If you go for the close range scatter approach they can put out a surprisingly good amount of hard flux as well while generating very little themselves.

So yeah. They're not going to beat AMs on damage under any circumstances, they're not going to beat burst PD on burst damage and they're not going to beat IRs on anti shield. But they got better OP, flux, range and accuracy on all of them. And you don't really need much real-estate in the way of mods or skills to get value out of them. Better yet those skills or mods they benefit from also have synergy from other, more impressive weapons you're likely to see on a ship that can deploy them. Tachs, phases, heavy bursts etc.
They're in my experience like the MLAS from mechwarrior, nothing to write home about but en masse they'll get the job done and on the cheap.

>shitty pirate fleet that i beat up in like 30 seconds
>+100% xp
>remnant fleet that fucks my shit up
>no bonus xp

????

>>2083140
It only cares about DP, if the garbage fleet is fuck massive it looks a lot more theatening than it actually is.

>>2081968
>flux dis and adjunct s-modded
fucking retardo

>>2083117
Good write up. Thanks, anon.

bros is there a way to increase the number of ships i can use/control with the nueral link skill? I swear i could/was use/using 3 ships on .97b!

>>2083117
How do beams work differently against armor? Is it how they tick 10 times per second.

>>2083268
he's talking out his ass and being obtuse about it. beams tick at 10hz and use 0.5x their DPS for the hit strength calculation. nothing terribly complicated.

>>2083268
1/2
Yes and no. Mechanically they have an initial warmup tick, the tick they're firing which is roughly rounded up to 0.1 seconds and their winding down tick. The first and the last tick have reduced performance compared to the "main" tick but a faster tick since it's triggered on demand, if that makes sense. That is then adjusted for rate of fire and time dilation with say anubis or phase anchor shenanigans or simply if it's a lance and not a continuous beam. Coincidentally this was the main reason for armored weapons being nerfed to not include beam or lance weapons and one of the reasons for the no base hard flux on beamers change but that's a different topic.

>against armor
So, the halved hit strength vs armor on beams is only for determining damage reduction purposes on the armor. How's that different to non HE damage vs armor I can imagine someone asking. Well you can take my word for it or you can spend time digging up excel sheets and testing yourself but (e) beams even with that damage reduction still come on top especially versus lighter armor compared to direct fire (e) weapons. Now wether this is due to their usually good base weapon damage almost always being a multiplier of 5 and so favorably rounding up or due to esoteric vodka fuelled alexes autismo mechanics I'll leave to smarter and more spiritual anons to decide.

The second bit is how different damage types interact with armor and residual armor. Ship base armor is split on roughly those squares and in practice each pixel has an armor value associated with it. A HE weapon is really effective against armor but a good part of its damage is spread across a wider area and "rolls" against more armor space and more armor reduction. This results in high damage HE weapons stripping wide swats of armor per hit while low damage HE weapons spread their already anemic damage and doing fuck all on heavier armor despite being HE. LAGs come to mind here.

>>2083322
2/2
Projectile weapons have each instance of damage applied separately and often on separate areas rolling against each "circle" of armor there. Often catching bits of stronger armor and losing on actual damage since they're rolling against higher armor. Beams also apply each instance of damage separately per each tich but have the advantage of ideally striking a single point so they benefit more from stripped armor (and not losing damage on residual armor) and from again, outright esoteric formulas that come into what actually determines their tick and how that rounds up.

>>2083316
Oh I'm sorry xyster, did I sideline your shitposting while trying to help that anon out? I'll make sure to defer to you and just post "skill issue" in all low caps and some ironically godawful build while baiting with artificial mod drama next time someone asks something.

>x0.5 vs armor
>10hz all day erry day
>it's that shrimple
It's not. That's the point. There's 3 separate modifiers including "dpsToHitStrengthMult" that try to balance their hit strength alone and that's without going into armor penetration or what calculates their DPS to begin with.

>>2083322
>This results in high damage HE weapons stripping wide swats of armor per hit while low damage HE weapons spread their already anemic damage and doing fuck all on heavier armor despite being HE. LAGs come to mind here.
So the LAG suffers, not because it's a bad weapon on its own, but because armour mechanics punish how it functions at its core?
Where do Breach missiles factor into all this? Because I know they ignore armour reduction but still somehow just feel not that great to use given what else could be in that slot (as I could just kill the ship now with a reaper instead).

>>2083498
I don't think it suffers but I'd definitely say it becomes more and more niche and less viable the longer the game goes. There are just so many universally better things you could put in those small ballistics unless you're going some weird phaseship or frigate build and don't have access to torps or AMs. To go back best thing TACs have going for them imho is the lack of a better alternatives if you're just looking to fill a small energy on both OP and flux budget and you want actual range on the thing. And how they synergise with better beam or lance weapons. AMs are not for every ship, conquest or ody that leans into wings or abyss/dorito gear for example and IRs are almost twice as expensive on flux while not being that impressive. TACs are not half bad as PD either, rather one of the few weapons that can take out sabbots reliably but I don't think it's worth putting s-integrated PD on say your ody just for that.

>Breach
I don't know what to tell you. If they were regenerating I'd consider putting them on AI ships but them and swarmers are not something I seriously ever used in any capacity. Like you said, I can just put reapers or maybe harpoons, ideally with autoloader and simply kill the fucker instead.

>>2083537
I think the large warmer pod is unironically really good.

>>2083540
Locust? If you mean that then hell yeah, that's a bargain for 18OP. I meant the shitty little HE wanna be annihilators.

>>2083537
What would you do to make Swarmers and Breach worth consideration?
>t. a faggot who genuinely thinks both are neat and just wishes they were useful.

>>2083561
No idea brother. I enjoy the puzzle of making it work with what I'm given since it's a real nice dopamine hit when some things work really well despite you not expecting them to. Burst laser spam for example. Or nupillums in some configurations.
Few times I started changing things I went too far in one direction or another and saw how what I changed fucked up different things down the line and lost all interest in continuing further.

>>2083577
>Few times I started changing things I went too far in one direction or another and saw how what I changed fucked up different things down the line and lost all interest in continuing further.
I like the puzzle of trying to find tweaks that don't rock the boat/don't displace other things.
You gave me an idea for Breach anyway, regenerating ammo.
Thinking 1missile/10seconds for small, 2/10 for medium, leave them with their current ammo capacities. Maybe that's too slow a rate, I dunno, will test.
Regenerating ammo would at least push them into "use these on support ships you've put Hardened Subsystems on".

>>2083208
NTA but what should you smod on the paragon?

>>2083596
Depends on what you want to do with it

>>2083596
stab shields and hardened shields
for the 3rd slot its solar shielding then use console magic to designate it as a civilian craft so it gets burn bonus from bulk transport

>>2083537
breach is technically a better harpoon

>>2083596
More than one way to build it. Especially if you want AI to use it.

>>2083594
Good luck then.

>>2083651
and? I dont even know how to use fortress shield.
If you really want to you can pilot a phase ship, because npcs dont know how to.

>>2083651
Hey, some things the AI can juggle better, some things you can. All a matter of knowing what you're good at, and focusing there.
But if you mean in general, then you should probably practice.

They should really nerf derelict operations.
I think they should just combine derelict operations with hull restorations and add a new yellow skill on the fourth row maybe something that boosts income colony or prices or something that allows for faster travel

>>2083498
>Where do Breach missiles factor into all this?
they're scripted and just straight subtracted to the cells in the area (using the normal cell distribution)

how many cells an HE weapon hits isn't terribly important though, since you will hardly ever see a dead ship that hasn't been armor stripped on at least one side. it all gets used eventually.