Anonymous
6/23/2025, 9:07:08 PM No.2075448
>the ottomans are hard to beat...
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 9:34:19 PM No.2075479
nah they aint shit their ai is mega retarded but why are you staying in that war for so long?
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 2:32:18 AM No.2075759
>>2075448 (OP)
>Someone in another thread thought it was insulting to have Mamluks form Arabia because they were Turko-Circassian former slaves and mercenaries
Would a Kurdish dynasty be any better i wonder
>Someone in another thread thought it was insulting to have Mamluks form Arabia because they were Turko-Circassian former slaves and mercenaries
Would a Kurdish dynasty be any better i wonder
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Anonymous
6/24/2025, 8:01:12 PM No.2076224
Ayy lmao
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 11:09:31 PM No.2076416
How's gameplay in the Middle East? I've never played there.
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 11:16:10 PM No.2076422
>>2075759
>Would a Kurdish dynasty be any better
To be fair, except for the Prophet and his original followers. Arab rulers arent the best to rule around.
The Ayyubids, Seljuks, Ottomans, Zirids and the best sultans of the Umayyads were not Arabs.
I dont know which leader said something about them, but I think it was Kadaffi but he said "Arabs are the best to agree about disagreeing and starting pointless feuds"
>Would a Kurdish dynasty be any better
To be fair, except for the Prophet and his original followers. Arab rulers arent the best to rule around.
The Ayyubids, Seljuks, Ottomans, Zirids and the best sultans of the Umayyads were not Arabs.
I dont know which leader said something about them, but I think it was Kadaffi but he said "Arabs are the best to agree about disagreeing and starting pointless feuds"
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Anonymous
6/24/2025, 11:31:57 PM No.2076437
>>2076422
Ummayad Caliphs were all Arabs, in fact the Abbasids manage to topple them because they basically were an Arab supremacist and hated by Persians as a result.
Ummayad Caliphs were all Arabs, in fact the Abbasids manage to topple them because they basically were an Arab supremacist and hated by Persians as a result.
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Anonymous
6/24/2025, 11:48:53 PM No.2076454
>>2075448 (OP)
I mean 16th century Ottomans that have blobbed into the Balkans, Syria, Arabia and Egypt. Have quantity, quality and defensive as idea sets and the biggest fleet in the Med stopping you getting across the Bosporus are hard to to beat in the first war not what they are in your game
I mean 16th century Ottomans that have blobbed into the Balkans, Syria, Arabia and Egypt. Have quantity, quality and defensive as idea sets and the biggest fleet in the Med stopping you getting across the Bosporus are hard to to beat in the first war not what they are in your game
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 11:57:04 PM No.2076459
>>2076437
>Ummayad Caliphs were all arabs
The best sultans of the Umayyads had Amazigh upbringing or Iberian ones.
They actually could comunicate with their vassals in a way that helped.
Like Abd al-Rahman the first who had Berber mother and Abd al-Rahman the third who had an Iberian mother. Both rulers are remembered to brought their own significant stone to the golden age of Al-Andalus.
While yeah they got kicked out of middleast, the great ones who consolidate power in Spain lasted longer than the Abassids.
The Abassids themselves were decadent and toppled by leaders and Seljuks house guards who were treated badly by their Abassid liege lords. Not saying they were all bad, iirc, one caliph destroyed any Chinese ambition in the middle east and the Abassid dictated the trade value in the silk road.
But generally speaking, Arabs arent great rulers a part from a few.
>Ummayad Caliphs were all arabs
The best sultans of the Umayyads had Amazigh upbringing or Iberian ones.
They actually could comunicate with their vassals in a way that helped.
Like Abd al-Rahman the first who had Berber mother and Abd al-Rahman the third who had an Iberian mother. Both rulers are remembered to brought their own significant stone to the golden age of Al-Andalus.
While yeah they got kicked out of middleast, the great ones who consolidate power in Spain lasted longer than the Abassids.
The Abassids themselves were decadent and toppled by leaders and Seljuks house guards who were treated badly by their Abassid liege lords. Not saying they were all bad, iirc, one caliph destroyed any Chinese ambition in the middle east and the Abassid dictated the trade value in the silk road.
But generally speaking, Arabs arent great rulers a part from a few.
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 6:34:47 PM No.2081820