Is it going to take me 100 years to finish it?

>>2077531 (OP)
ragequit within an hour, trying to get like machine components or set up order of command for your units. 2 hours if on adderall.

>>2077531 (OP)
geez what a hell world

>>2077531 (OP)
Depends on tile count, pop and metal.

>>2077531 (OP)
>1 degree tilt
reroll

>150k humans
how much pop does your capital have first round? 5k?

>>2077684
Kek it's infuriating me but I'm getting the hang of it, except everyone is starting to hate me and I'm hemorraghing money. How TF do I raise taxes in this fucking game?

>>2077945
Got lots of metal, I'd post picrels but I'm not home atm, shit

>>2077531 (OP)
>that planet
Planet generation is the one aspect where I think watching a tutorial is really helpful. It's much easier to start out with this game when you're on a forgiving earthlike planet that has a high population. Everything costs less, you're not as limited with production, and there's ruins to scavenge.

>>2078201
Yeah game doesn't know maths, my city had 50k starting out, my neighbors were comparable

>>2078220
Sell your resources

i cant stand all the card shit in this game

>>2078076
Why doe

>>2077685
>>2078224
Yeah I just had a concept for my autistic headcanon storyline.
Sparsely populated world with oasis regions that everyone fights over. People control an oasis, they have power, but because there's low pop, no one could hold onto too much territory.
It worked a little too well bros. I'm suffering in my first run.

>>2078251
Long since everything lost value, sold a lot already

>>2077531 (OP)
Terrible population, don't even play it.

>>2078275
Listen anon, it's about the PLOT

Okke I'm gonna post some screens when I get home and you guys are gonna give me advice on how to survive this crap.

>>2077685
I'm tripping my face trying to expand because the critters on this planet are fucking ferocious. Forget about native tribes and other regimes.

>>2078267
I'm not going to begrudge someone their RP, I just thought it was unintentional. I do want to do a shitty moon colony run even though I know it'll be miserable.

>>2078300
You could play as Bezos and build a dystopia up there or something lol.

Took me 2 yrs to pacify this shitty marshland and bring all of those little populations to the fold.
The game doesn't tell you that militias are shit and you should not use them unless it's your last resource.
I thought numerical advantage would help me beat the bums and critters that inhabited the area but no, when I stopped using militia in combination with my bots I started kicking their asses.

I wish they'd let you create your character and develop them more. It's hilarious this dweeb is it, not the air of history for an autocrat. I wonder if there'll be more customization in a future DLC.

>>2078404
Ot-ZING!

>>2078259
Shitty seasonless world

>>2078404
I don't know why militia is even exist at this stage. It never was good and then it was nerfed into oblivion.

>>2078307
I think it's going to be a dystopia no matter what I do.

>>2078613
They work for putting land under your control or blocking neutral units that will take land but not attack.

>>2078613
I wish militia are more interesting wild cards than have a use. Like riding on alien life from or armored with native plants, mascot of annexed minor and majors and cults. And somehow survive or dies to random chances.

How do I wage war in this fucking game?
Massed my troops along the border and setup depots so I could keep a logistics train into enemy ground.
I invade like a retard zogbot.
I had sent spies into their territory in preparation for this several times, the enemy turned out to have x20 the troops I thought from the intel I got back. Their whole region had its fow removed so I thought I knew what I was up against.
Anyway, I go in, it takes me like 3 turns to get to 0 supply and 0 morale. Maybe some of those depots weren't finished but also the enemy can just march behind you and cut you off, then you're basically done.
I'm thinking rethink my strategy and do the same approach, like the Germans, break in deep, get behind them. But the potential to just get cut off so easily is pretty.
So what, maybe mechanized forces? More trucks to move fast? I mostly have infantry so they're hoofing it into enemy land.
How tf to capture large regions I have no idea, once you start a major war you're bleeding resources, political capital and manpower like a mf so you gotta win fast as possible.
I feel, literally, like Vladimir Putin right now.

>>2078881
I was actually surprised you can't annex alien minor regimes. I haven't opened contact with them so I don't know my options yet but the cards to offer them protection, unification, client state status, none apply to them.

>>2078555
>wypipo don season dey planets

>>2078911
>playing in Beginner difficulty

>>2078911
>Rush with infantry is not going to work
Have you tried the second zigger strategem, light tank rushing?

>>2079043
Yeah I don't have those. I think I jumped the gun and invaded prematurely. I need to get new models and research and amass a big force that can overwhelm the other team quick. Problem is they're ahead of me. By the time I'm ready maybe they'll be invading me.
Double the problem too because my two neighbors are allies, so time comes I'm gonna have to fight them both at the same time.

>>2079043
>>2079064
I'll start building a light armor force

You see this is why these niggas want to get into my fertile oasis land, they live in that sandy shithole.

I made all the mistakes bros. I tried to grow my economy too fast and no matter what balance I try between production leves or so on, I can't finish a bunch of buildings. Meanwhile my somdiers are getting their asses kicked by mountain worms. I have to say it might be time to call it. I suck. I'll just imagine I won and continue the campaign in a 4x space game.

>>2079064
>Yeah I don't have those.
It's fucking over. Buggies are a starting tech right? You can have mad max wars.

>>2079424
Never build multiple buildings. Early game industry can support one building at a time and sometimes I have to shift it to 75%. Halt and Shift some of them useless ones to 25% and bring one complete. Money wasted on idling workers could have gone to buying machinery.
Well it takes a few restarts to get a hang of this game. Try revert a few saves earlier for a better outcome and develop a smooth strategy.
>>2079633
He can but his building spree probably consumed all his Industry output. Buggie can have good armor but attack value is shit, one can have the same armor and murder everyone with a howitzer. I only did buggie on a barren tiny moon map with little metal, life, pop and water for much of anything.
but it's not like a model designer for a light tank is something inaccessible. All you need is that cabinet member appointed, discover and design a howitzer light tank with armor thicker than sheet metal. There is not military tech to discover.
Until enemy has anti-tank, Infantry attack advancing tanks gets counter attacked and any unit can counter attack 6 times.

shadow empire was such a disappointment to me

>>2079633
Yeah I just had 't focused on that and favored the infantry formations because I could field more since there their pop cost is lower (I think? Can't check rn). I think just from this miserable planet's low pop issue it just railroaded me to do that math but it was the wrong choice.

>>2079732
Absolutely what you said in your first response that's what I figured last night and did it, now it's going but because I have so many it's still slow. I'm gonna have to demolish some and be done with it, otherwise I'll stay stagnant for a long ass time. I'm just trying to get my industry and logistics system up.
I'd have to shrink my expansion.
Problem is, well these desert niggas are expanding and threatening to surround me, so I'm kind of compelled to keep pushing it just to deny them that. I already did it at this isthmus region, so I'll probably cut corners there. I want to keep expanding in that direction but for now having a border they can't cross is enough.

>>2079812
Never played a 4x game so it's taking me a second to learn it but I'm finding the autism and customization possible in this genre to be cool. I have ideas for other RPs here too. I think it just lacks a little charm maybe, could use a few more updates.

>>2079812
I like it. It's a unique setting for a 4x games and I like how customizable everything is. I do wish the AI wasn't so shit. Far too many games where I hopelessly outclass the AI in military and tech.

Ok lads, genuinely wtf, look at picrel.
They're just sitting there, just incomplete government projects, there's probably crackhead niggas living in there by now.
I cannot for the life of me figure out what they need to be completed holy shit.
Is it that other structures use them? Makes no sense, logistical structures should generate points no?
I have all the resources those shits need.
I've even tried closing down non-logistics-related assets so they don't take up workers. Nothing, this shit just doesn't get going. They just stay as they are.
Maybe I have too many units fielded?
Holy shit I'm kinda fed up with this game, I can't accomplish jack shit when my focus is in trying to figure out the interface.

>>2080276
Do you have zero free logistic after units take their food?

>>2080284
This what I got, didn't even know it was there ffs. I can't even read it I'm too tired lol. I'm gonna try upgrading my roads more, I have a lot of industry points now. I assume that'll work. Worked for the Romans no?

This is the worst game ever and I got it refunded after falling for the meme.

>>2080323
Yeah it's kinda retarded, I like the idea of it but it's a pain to do anything in it.

Ok fuck it. I'll roll again.

>>2079877
the mechanics are very shallow in reality
>>2080191
i like the setting but you make it sound like distant worlds which it just isn't
starsector is a good example of a game where you really customize your ships and they act totally differently as well as a game where thinking outside the box can be rewarding
in shadow empire you have the illusion of choice but really there are only about 6 numbers and there aren't that many options
i really wanted to like it because the setting is cool and i thought logistics wasn't going to be trivial but i was wrong

>>2080483
It's not trying to be distant worlds and it's definitely not trying to be starsector. Starsector has real time tactical combat that I don't think you can really compare to a turn based strategic system. Shadow Empire is a land combat wargame with 4x elements. I haven't played any of the dev's historical wargames but it looks to be a similar system.

>>2080483
>the mechanics are very shallow in reality
maybe you're right, how would I know, I do n't have the perspective of having played other games like this one

>>2080384
At least I got a few cool screenshots out of my run.
I already got a new concept, it's gonna be an even worse hellscape because I am a masochist.

>>2080507
obviously it isn't trying to be starsector: that was just the first well knowm example of a game where customizing your units makes very real and meaningful differences which i could think of
designing your models seems like it is going to matter in shadow empire but it simply doesn't

i did expect it to have more distant worlds like mechanics
the game was sold to me on the basis of logistics more than anything but the logistics system is incredibly simple in reality and not very realistic to boot

i would have loved a game about the scarcity of resources: a game where you moved stockpiles around to prepare for conflicts over key resources and where developing supply lines was how you built your empire
to some extent, developing roads is how you build your empire in shadow empire but it is trivial and unrewarding
the sea game is outrageous though

>>2080323
Filtered.
>>2080483
>the mechanics are very shallow in reality
You guys keep memeing and saying these buzzwords but never explain how it's shallow. Where can I find a game like this that isn't 'shallow' then? I'm on the lookout.

>>2081146
Logistics is incredibly simple in reality, pick a thing up and put it down somewhere else.

The fun in SE is the interplay between the planetary characteristics and strategic situation you find yourself in. You try to make ancapistan on a death world surrounded by 7 hostile factions and you're going to lose. Politics are a tool, go for enforcement if you're getting clowned on logistics.

Made nu planet, fuck this one
>>2081410

>>2080384
there is more soul in one pixel of this image than 1000 images of the AI slop that vic is using for the new DLC

>>2081360
Logistics is not simple in reality.

>>2078224
Planet generation being essentially a gacha pisses me off enough that every time I feel like playing Shadow Empire I reroll planets for two hours and then decide to go play something with actual gameplay.
Manual inputs needs to be a thing. They can keep the generator to check if the inputs are valid. I think one could actually do it right now with Cheat Engine but I can't be arsed because it would be very autistic work.

>>2078911
Unless you are very far away this lack of supply shouldn't happen unless you significantly misunderstood the logisfic system and have no truck/rail transport to get supplies to the frontline in the first place.

>>2078254
If the devs got rid of this crap and made it more direct and also allowed you to customize planets instead of rolling bs, I would play it.

Paradox is good because they ended the era of "resource points" "food points" and knowingly or unknowingly have made that stuff look super retarded and comical which it always was. Shadow Empire devs, I don't think they witnessed that. Not saying those systems are bad entirely.

Strategy gamers who buy all the dlc's and become fans, don't like "casual" systems they like sweaty systems that make you learn economics or something.

>>2080276
Only 0 logistical points flowed to that tile, so production suffered by 100%. You should be able to solve this.

>>2084821
Paradox games still have points, mana, etc. they just disguise them better.

>>2078404
Looks like Anatolia.
>>2081916
TRVKE

>>2085404
Yeah but they also have trade network shit and economic supply and demand stuff approaching actual finance Sims like Wall Street Raider. 4x games like civilisation and co was the furthest thing from that.

>>2086968
>they also have trade network shit and economic supply and demand stuff approaching actual finance sims
may we see it?

>>2078912
>I was actually surprised you can't annex alien minor regimes.
You can, you need xeno diplomacy teams. The cards cost a fuckton of points to play and you need to spam them. And all you get is bunch of their units which die to a stiff breeze. But their units don't need supply which can be useful to flip some mountains in bumfuck nowhere, just keep them out of battle. I guess you could get lucky and gen some badass alien natives, but I haven't really seen any real combat potential from sapient aliens.

>>2086968
Only Victoria 2/3 has that. Victoria 3 left out the wargame elements.

>>2087165
>Only Victoria 2/3 has that.
You mean Victoria 3 where factories create input materials from thin air?

>>2085347
Yeah did much better on my second run, but disabling major factions made it too easy, I painted the map just using cards. It was fun but cancelled that one too lol.

>>2087138
Oh that's cool, makes sense actually, I just never used those cards when I was playing because yeah, they're costly and to me they didn't seem useful.

>>2087754
You're not wrong.

testing something...
family

>>2094858
wordfilters haven't worked like that in over a decade, sempai