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Imagine the lag
Anonymous No.2083191 [Report] >>2084760 >>2087401
>>2083187 (OP)
I'm really excited, lads. I can't wait to weeb out. Japanese samurai adventure, Korean merchant, Chinese warlord. Shit's gonna be fun.
Anonymous No.2083194 [Report] >>2083611 >>2090203
>>2083187 (OP)
Are there really playable proto human abbo tribes in new guinea? lmao
Anonymous No.2083200 [Report] >>2083229
Imagine being so poor you don't have an x3d card.
Anonymous No.2083229 [Report] >>2083991 >>2088049 >>2095441
>>2083200
Paradox games require powerful CPUs and lots of ram, instead of GPU
Anonymous No.2083237 [Report]
>He doesn't run CK3 on an rmbk reactor
Enjoy your loading screens.
Anonymous No.2083276 [Report] >>2083369
Just split the map in two. India will be in both maps.
Anonymous No.2083278 [Report] >>2083318 >>2083449 >>2083451 >>2083552 >>2089752
>>2083187 (OP)
>lag
Hardly an issue, because the game isn't in 32bit, like CK2 was when India was added. And it's actually better scripted (despite the spaghetti that handles 3D portraits) than CK2 ever was.
The real issue is the planned content itself. Imagine trying to shoehorn Far East under pre-existing mechanics and trying to run Imperial China as either feudal or admiinistrative realm using existing systems. And all of that made in a way that the Chinks won't just paint the map yellow, thus making their existence on the map pointless
They really should just made a separate game.
Anonymous No.2083312 [Report] >>2083457 >>2084734 >>2102261 >>2102282
>>2083187 (OP)
>Chinese themed room

>Tiled floor
>Modern chair cushion pads
>Scrolls everywhere
This is some peak Europeam Judge Dee fan art shit.
Anonymous No.2083318 [Report] >>2083329
>>2083278
>They really should just made a separate game.
Anon, you don't understand. Paradox can't make games. They have 1-2 games that actually work and they twist and squeeze these to wring out as much DLC money out of them as humanly possible.
Paradox can't make a real East Asian game because they'd have to invent workable game mechanics for it. And they're incapable of doing that.

Adding new kingdoms and Byzantiums with yellow face make up is the way to go.
Anonymous No.2083329 [Report] >>2083455
>>2083318
>Adding new kingdoms and Byzantiums with yellow face make up is the way to go.
Thats been Paradox way for a long time, they simplify stuff and let redditors and retards defend their games on historical grounds despite all the issues.
Last I heard there are two Rollo de Normandie in-game because of Roads to Power.
The Islamic governements are all over the place between Iqta in CK2 and clan system.
Now all the Nomads are well nomads with the same system and mechanics even if they are on steppes or in the desert.

Instead of embracing the randomness and fun with historical mask like they did with CK2 (they gave no fucks since Rajas of India and Monks and Mystics), they try so hard to paint a "historical" setting in CK3 and miss the essential elements in Europe it self with the college of cardinals, merchant republics and trading mechanics.

If anything, they need to overhaul the game in Europe first then go slowly west. In future updates and DLCs but I doubt they will do even that. To much effort for little in return.
Anonymous No.2083335 [Report] >>2083339
>Europe first then go slowly west
Why would they do the indies after europe?
Anonymous No.2083339 [Report] >>2119004 >>2120679
>>2083335
Add sex mechanics in Thaiti where you can fuck a cute tan tribal for an iron nail.

I meant slowly going east, mea culpa. CK3 is a mess, at this point and it really feels like the designers are torn between giving more content or accuratly depicting a medieval life.
Anonymous No.2083366 [Report]
>>2083187 (OP)
Based Paradox not letting their game be held back by people who haven't bought a new CPU since 2010.
Anonymous No.2083369 [Report]
>>2083276
When are they adding mesoamerica and brazil?
Anonymous No.2083449 [Report] >>2083510
>>2083278
>Hardly an issue
All of the map expansion mods that include Asia proper have massive performance issues after the first 100 years or so, and they also all require at least 32gb of RAM if you don't want the game to write data to disk. And yeah as you said, they should have just made a separate game. When the fuck will I get to play a proper game where I can larp as the Mikado trying to restore imperial rule? How much more do I have to suffer?
Anonymous No.2083451 [Report] >>2083510
>>2083278
>Hardly an issue
Game already lags like insane during the crusades because game needs to calculate long path for 100 000 small armies.
I presume same shit will continue.
Anonymous No.2083455 [Report] >>2099904
>>2083329
>hey try so hard to paint a "historical" setting in CK3 and miss the essential elements in Europe it self with the college of cardinals, merchant republics and trading mechanics.
Investigate/antipope mechanics were more important, and they were on CK2 on launch.
Entire medieval period was heavily influenced bythe investiture controversy (dispute over who had the right to appoint bishops.
This was important, because bishops were insanely powerful due to their land ownerships.
For example, in 1300 England had two archbishops (Cantebury and York), and clergy controlled 33% of England's land. Which made these archbishops much more powerful than most nobles.
Anonymous No.2083457 [Report]
>>2083312
bold of you assume that Paradox actually gives a shit about historical accuracy and authenticity
Anonymous No.2083510 [Report] >>2083519 >>2083527 >>2091817
>>2083449
>All the mods, with no access to the code and having to work with how the game is, struggle with accomodate something that requires reworking the map
>Therefore, the actual thing doing that on company side of things is going to have same issues of bolting things, and not rewriting them
There is PDX being incompetent, and then is you being fucking retarded

>>2083451
Already got solved when Nomads were introduced, along with the (genuine) lag caused by adventurers.
Anonymous No.2083519 [Report] >>2083547
>>2083510
The game literally takes up 10gb of RAM on startup. Are you going to try and convince me that these people know or care for optimization? The modders definitely know what they're doing better than they do, and even with the handicap of being stuck modding they've probably managed far better than Paradox ever could. I'll admit optimization was pretty decent on launch, but judging from the 5 or so years since then the people that originally worked on the game probably got sent to the firing line for doing too good of a job.
Anonymous No.2083527 [Report] >>2083547 >>2084716
>>2083510
>Already got solved when Nomads were introduced, along with the (genuine) lag caused by adventurers.
I have not actually since that release, but I heard people on R*ddit say the lack is notably worse.
Anonymous No.2083547 [Report] >>2083548 >>2083553 >>2083573 >>2083606 >>2115139
>>2083519
I am running this game on 2014 PC. The only time it actually slows down is when it is building cache past every reinstall/major patch. That's 16 GB RAM and i5-4570, still on HDD. Loads faster than any other PDX game released since I build that PC. In fact, it loads faster than CK2. So you can't even blame it on your rig being obsolete, because mine already is. What's your excuse then, other than repeating like a mantra "it sucks, because it sucks"?

>>2083527
You mean adventurers or you mean nomads? Because adventurers were fucking horrendous, and they eventually nerfed the whole roaming adventurer aspect (lmao) just to decrease CPU drag. Nomads requires from this shit to be top notch, or else there would be no point, so they've ironed it out, and then kept improving in post-release patches.
Part of the reason why I'm always lenient toward CK3 is that it's the only game in their line up that:
- worked in release state
- has actual patching done
- keeps using its own mechanics, rather than introducing new minigames each DLC
- new DLCs address issues of previous one (which is the only PDX game to do so)
Said all that, adding China is a stupid idea. Just not for the reasons people harp about.
Anonymous No.2083548 [Report]
>>2083547
>You mean adventurers or you mean nomads?
They say in general lag has increase since nomad expansion
Anonymous No.2083552 [Report] >>2083672 >>2084786 >>2086953 >>2088033
>>2083278
>Imagine trying to shoehorn Far East under pre-existing mechanics and trying to run Imperial China as either feudal or admiinistrative realm using existing systems.
That's why they're adding Celestial, Meritocratic, Soryo/Ritsuryo, Mandala, and Wanua governments to try to differentiate them, using landless and tributary systems for their benefit
Anonymous No.2083553 [Report] >>2088030
>>2083547
I'm running on 16gb RAM, Ryzen 5500 and it's set up on an SSD. Loads slower than other PDX games including CK2 even without mods in, writes on my disk later in the game because it feels that 16gb of RAM(with no other applications open) is too little for it, and it visibly slows down at the 50, 100, 200 etc checkpoints of the game. My "excuse"? I think you're bullshitting about the game running so well, either that or in deep need of glasses.
Anonymous No.2083573 [Report] >>2083587
>>2083547
Yeah, you're straight up lying. Get a stopwatch, this loads the slowest out of any Paradox game, CK2 takes about one second.
You can't notice the game is slow because your computer is so old so everything is always slow, the difference between speed 5 on year 1 and speed 5 on year 100 is night and day.
Anonymous No.2083587 [Report]
>>2083573
ck2 was only "running slow" a decade ago because the average player was playing on a shitty computer, if you have a modern computer the game boots up in like 10 seconds
Anonymous No.2083600 [Report]
>>2083187 (OP)
Imagine starting as Irish count and conquer Europe, Africa, and all of Asia with 100 years
Anonymous No.2083606 [Report]
>>2083547
cocksucker
Anonymous No.2083611 [Report] >>2083621
>>2083194
And they will easily catch up technologically to the chinese (Europeans are second place, obviously) to start sea faring, colonizing the island, conquer the world and finally establish a socialist utopia.
Anonymous No.2083621 [Report]
>>2083611
Doesn't their government prevent teach advancement so they'd have to switch that out first?
Anonymous No.2083672 [Report] >>2083971 >>2085546
>>2083552
Calling the Chinese Court system meritocratic is the funniest meme, PDX could make. It was literally Game of Thrones on steroids, the way the intrigues there worked and how backstabby the Eunuchs were.
Anonymous No.2083971 [Report] >>2084310 >>2085548
>>2083672
Ability to scheme and backstab could be considered a form of merit.
Anonymous No.2083991 [Report]
>>2083229
Yeah they require a really powerful CPU like something that isn't more than 6 years old, to not have lag.
Anonymous No.2083992 [Report]
I can't wait to redirect a crusade to fucking borneo
Anonymous No.2084006 [Report] >>2084528
>>2083187 (OP)
I will not play until South Africa and Australia are added
>muh natives
Old world only. Cope niggers.
Anonymous No.2084310 [Report] >>2085548
>>2083971
History proves that not being the case. People who were known schemers were often just good at bootlicking and currying favours with people and if they got appointed into position they showed often how unsuited they were for it.
Anonymous No.2084381 [Report] >>2095145 >>2095146
>>2083187 (OP)
I might be one of the five people who is looking forward to the Swahili Coast.
Anonymous No.2084528 [Report]
>>2084006
I wil not play until Americas have been added.
Haestein will sail to Vinland rape and pillage way from tom North America to Aztec, all the way to the Inca.
At the age of 99, Haestein will die as the Inca-Aztec Emperor with 1000 children
Anonymous No.2084585 [Report] >>2084595
>>2083187 (OP)
With all those new provinces, they may have to update their official requirements a bit like bumping up RAM from 16gb to 32gb
Anonymous No.2084595 [Report] >>2084599 >>2084630
>>2084585
who has 32 gbs of RAM?
Anonymous No.2084599 [Report]
>>2084595
Me!
Anonymous No.2084622 [Report] >>2084645
>>2083187 (OP)
I will play as some shitty East Siberian tribe and rape Chinese woman
Anonymous No.2084630 [Report]
>>2084595
32GB is the new normal, chuddie
Anonymous No.2084645 [Report] >>2088116
>>2084622
I will play as a yellow fevered White European adventurer, and have lots of loving, consensual sex with Chinese women.
Anonymous No.2084647 [Report] >>2084668
>>2083187 (OP)
>white European adventurer who breeds his way through japan until he is Shogun
i cant wait
Anonymous No.2084668 [Report]
>>2084647
>Emperor of China inherits Iceland
>Random European declares war to reclaim Ireland
>AI marches army of 100,000 troops from China to Iceland (because AI always sends all their troops)
>war takes 4 years, but by the time they arrive in Iceland it is only 90%
Anonymous No.2084716 [Report]
>>2083527
It's way worse
I have mid craptop from 2020
Base ck3 played more or less the same from start to finish
After they added tourneys and traveling characters it started slowing down past the 200 years mark but still was okay to finish
Mercs brought more lag for me, 100 years and it started to slow down, could more or less play for 250 years and after that its like a second per in game day
Nomads is barely playable for me it starts slowing down by 50 years and by 100 it's already slow enough to be annoying, anything past that is 1 day per second
Nomad mechanics were cool, too bad anything after will be completely unplayable for me
Anonymous No.2084734 [Report] >>2118763
>>2083312
they're swedish. They assume everyone is just like them, then get shot to death with smuggled somali AK-47s. Then they cry about the poor somali who is so poor he had to resort to a life of gang crime and internal drug wars
Anonymous No.2084760 [Report] >>2086373
>>2083191
>merchant
but that's not possible rn
Anonymous No.2084786 [Report] >>2084788 >>2087405
>>2083552
What the hell is a Wanua anyways?
Tribal but they use boats more?
Anonymous No.2084788 [Report]
>>2084786
I think it was tribal but they have to reform into something else to get tech.
Anonymous No.2084824 [Report] >>2096364
>>2083187 (OP)
imagine conquerig india, south eat asia, china, japan, iran, the middle east and eventually europe as these guys
Anonymous No.2084910 [Report] >>2084933 >>2084936
you can already play china with the bookmark+ mod
it runs fine
Anonymous No.2084933 [Report] >>2085361 >>2087633
>>2084910
You can but most PDX players are retards who for some reason play mostly vanilla.
Anonymous No.2084936 [Report]
>>2084910
what your cpu?
Anonymous No.2084939 [Report] >>2087913
>>2083187 (OP)
It better let me disable regions at the start. No point in having a gorillion states in Siberia, Dub Saharan Africa and Indo China tank by performance when I'm playing in Europe.
Anonymous No.2085361 [Report] >>2085584 >>2088035
>>2084933
achievements + you havent tried everything in vanilla yet
Anonymous No.2085546 [Report] >>2085629 >>2086474
>>2083672
no inner court mechanics so eunuchs and concubines and all their schemes dont exist
Anonymous No.2085548 [Report] >>2085628 >>2088968
>>2083971
>>2084310
I don't see why Meritocratic and Administrative use different manas. It seems like Merit should be relevant to Administrative and Influence should be relevant to Meritocratic.
And both are also just reskinned Prestige.
Anonymous No.2085584 [Report]
>>2085361
you can get achievements in ck3 as long as your ruleset allows them, you don't need ironman for it anymore
Anonymous No.2085628 [Report]
>>2085548
That is also a good point, and it also just happens that Byzantine politics like CHinese politics ended up being just scheming and backstabbing by the bunch of dumbasses, in practise.
Anonymous No.2085629 [Report] >>2085630 >>2088968
>>2085546
What even is the point in playing China then?
Anonymous No.2085630 [Report]
>>2085629
yellow fever
Anonymous No.2085634 [Report] >>2086053 >>2086065
This expansion seems really hilarious. I'm going to create a custom Roman character and play with that theory that there was a lost Roman Legion that settled in China.
Anonymous No.2086053 [Report]
>>2085634
make a custom romano-han culture and become that meme image of the slot machine white guy
Anonymous No.2086065 [Report]
>>2085634
I saw some real schizo alt-hist image where the Roman empire gradually shifted and ended up being a dynasty in China.
Anonymous No.2086373 [Report]
>>2084760
Closest we can get is ladnless doing diplomatic and learning contracts.
Anonymous No.2086474 [Report]
>>2085546
Why did they omit this? Paradox is cheap.
Anonymous No.2086953 [Report] >>2086973
>>2083552
>Yellow River and Yangtze River have no tributaries
Anonymous No.2086973 [Report] >>2086980
>>2086953
Not possible to sail through for gameplay purposes I suppose.
Anonymous No.2086980 [Report]
>>2086973
It's stupid main purpose of river is sail, though, when it should be about bottlenecking. So the armies have to cross a ford.
There should be more rivers, I play with More Rivers Mod and Hungary is really fun with
Anonymous No.2087317 [Report]
>>2083187 (OP)
>Big gap where Kongo should be

Kongo Expansion Confirmed!!
Anonymous No.2087401 [Report] >>2098613
>>2083191
You know it occurs to me they could probably add a mode that's just japan and it wouldn't feel too weird not having the rest of the world
Anonymous No.2087405 [Report]
>>2084786
It was a Majapahit's administrative division for villages. Dunno why Paradox decide to name all Austronesian tribals' government into it.
Anonymous No.2087412 [Report] >>2087468 >>2087509 >>2087647 >>2090019 >>2090494
I don't understand why. Both Japantown and Chinatown most interesting things during this period are Mongols invading. It'd be boring as fuck unless both have mechanics that have nothing to do with how the states were ran historically.
Anonymous No.2087468 [Report]
>>2087412
China did have quite the mess since the fall of Tang until Ming dynasty came about. But Japan, yeah, Mongols were the high point of that shit.
Anonymous No.2087509 [Report]
>>2087412
B-But the regents? The three generations from Emperor Daigo afterwards? Genpei? Kamakura? The Houjyou? Go-Toba? Go-Daigo?
Anonymous No.2087633 [Report] >>2087635 >>2087661
>>2084933
I tried modding my pirated copy but the mods just refuse to work. Maybe getting ck3 in a sale and then creamapi-ing the dlc would be worth it for the workshop but after looking around, I found out that even steam users have the same problem
Anonymous No.2087635 [Report] >>2087661 >>2088418
>>2087633
Works on my machine. You have made a mod list on the launcher, put the mods in, and activated them right?
Anonymous No.2087647 [Report]
>>2087412
>t: historylet
Anonymous No.2087661 [Report] >>2088418
>>2087633
Download irony mod manager. Without it you do need to manually write the mod file address on each mods descriptor text like in here >>2087635
Anonymous No.2087703 [Report] >>2088040 >>2090459
crusader kings is just pitiful at this point
it's so far removed from history it isn't even a joke
Anonymous No.2087805 [Report] >>2087808 >>2087840 >>2087854 >>2090455
>>2083187 (OP)
erm, why the fuck is PAPUA NEW GUINEA even playable?
Anonymous No.2087808 [Report]
>>2087805
Conquer the world as cannibals and eat everyone.
Anonymous No.2087840 [Report]
>>2087805
Papua New Guinea is the eastern part of the island and is obscured on this map.
Anonymous No.2087854 [Report]
>>2087805
that's actually regular New Guinea IDIOT
Anonymous No.2087913 [Report]
>>2084939
This is my hope. Keep the map expansion locked behind the DLC so i never have to see it.
Otherwise let me turn half the map off. I don't need anything east of the Urals.
Anonymous No.2088030 [Report] >>2088101
>>2083553
Nta, but nigger, you've got something off with your OS. Or maybe you are using just Win11, and then blaming it on the game
Anonymous No.2088033 [Report]
>>2083552
Which, bear with me, would be better if they just made a separate game for the Far East
Anonymous No.2088035 [Report]
>>2085361
>muh cheevos
Spotted a double-nigger retard
Anonymous No.2088040 [Report]
>>2087703
>Implying it was ever historical to begin with
Lmao
Lol
Anonymous No.2088049 [Report]
>>2083229
pardox games require good code ,something they dont have
Anonymous No.2088081 [Report] >>2088991 >>2089813 >>2100702
CK3 is the only game where my PC fans go fast for some reason. Maybe it's a mod in my list or something. It didn't always be like this.
Anonymous No.2088101 [Report]
>>2088030
Win10, I've never encountered any issues anywhere and everything "just works" except for when I try to play CK3 and Vic3. I'm inclined to believe that the problem is neither with my hardware or my OS.
Anonymous No.2088103 [Report]
The only reason this exists is so I can walk from Europe to Japan to get a slant eye wife for my OC do not steal Reconstitutor Orbi.
Anonymous No.2088116 [Report]
>>2084645
what chinese movie is this
Anonymous No.2088418 [Report]
>>2087635
Yes, I have a playset ready and everything. But it just won't work in game
>>2087661
Thanks, will give it a try
Anonymous No.2088826 [Report] >>2088829 >>2088916
I wish they leaned into the sims a bit more. I'd like to explore my domain, my throne room, etc. I mean we have full 3d models that can move. I'm not asking for Mount and Blade here but you're already pushing it that direction.
Anonymous No.2088829 [Report]
>>2088826
Not possible in their code spaghetti game. Same reason why they can't change the war mechanics.
Anonymous No.2088916 [Report] >>2088965 >>2089072
>>2088826
I wish they'd do the complete opposite and let me play a fucking strategy game and not barbies's playhouse. only thing that could salvage ck3 for me is adding a pop system and some kind of economy.
Anonymous No.2088965 [Report] >>2088991
>>2088916
Play Vic2, EU5, or Imperator then. I don't know why you'd expect that when all three of the Crusader Kings games are various levels of Barbie's Playhouse.
Anonymous No.2088968 [Report]
>>2085629
for all of the mods that'll be able to take the new base game content and make it good, just like with the parts of the map already there which also require mods to be fun
>>2085548
it'd be nice if paradox added more granularity to administrative and made china and the byzantines use the same system instead of just spinning off 5 new government types or whatever.
Anonymous No.2088991 [Report]
>>2088965
Which of these is set in the middle ages again? You can have a dollhouse while still having strategy be the main focus, let alone have it be present in the first place.
>>2088081
Something with the game's shaders, have the same thing.
Anonymous No.2089072 [Report] >>2089076
>>2088916
Agree, they should unironically remove the map for maxium impression.
They should still exist, but not be visible.
Instead of controlling armeis and seeing what is happening on the map, you only see warscore during war, and you can influence the course of war by hiring mercs and appoint commanders.
Anonymous No.2089076 [Report] >>2089087 >>2089757
>>2089072
The problem with Paradox games has always been omniscience. And we're talking about a bloody medieval ruler here. So perhaps obscuring mostly all info about people unless they're in close interaction with you or you spy on them.
Anonymous No.2089087 [Report] >>2089739 >>2089757
>>2089076
Right. I do not get what the point is telling everyone how many troops each ruler has.
That's information no ruler should have access.

It ultimately means weak kingdoms will never attack strong empires, because they are outnumbered.
So, if history operated under Paradox logic none would have ever attacked Roman Empire because their overall number of troops would have outnumbered everyone.
Anonymous No.2089739 [Report] >>2089757
>>2089087
Emphasis on the "everyone" part. I'm fine with the players knowing their enemies' numbers, but fuck me if it isn't annoying that the AI actually gets to be omniscient - It just makes it extremely passive, and this happens in all Paradox games, except maybe Vic 2 (because of the crisis system) and Hoi4 (because things snowball in retarded ways). I hate this specially in EU4, there's gotta be a better formula for AI aggressiveness than "if number bigger than mine then wont attack"...
Anonymous No.2089751 [Report]
>>2083187 (OP)
this is retarded
Anonymous No.2089752 [Report]
>>2083278
>switching from 32bit to 64bit suddenly makes games run faster
woooaaaaaaah we have a coding genius over here
Anonymous No.2089757 [Report] >>2089774
>>2089739
>>2089087
>>2089076
just play scifi games and stop caring about muh realism. all paradox games are made by woke trannirons who are out of touch with reality anyway.
Anonymous No.2089774 [Report]
>>2089757
>just play scifi games
I'm a White heterosexual male so no thanks.
Anonymous No.2089787 [Report]
this game lacks soul and no amount of map expansion can fix that
Anonymous No.2089804 [Report]
going to colonize China with my big byzantine cock
Anonymous No.2089813 [Report]
>>2088081
I fixed it by capping my fps to 60.
Anonymous No.2089829 [Report] >>2090248 >>2100701
>>2083187 (OP)
China is just going to be another nation blobbing into the steppe, huh?
Anonymous No.2090019 [Report]
>>2087412
It's the most interesting period of Japan actually
Anonymous No.2090203 [Report] >>2090505
>>2083194
Do you know where New Guinea is?
Anonymous No.2090248 [Report]
>>2089829
mongols BTFO
Anonymous No.2090455 [Report]
>>2087805
It's not you retard its greyed out
Anonymous No.2090459 [Report] >>2090465
>>2087703
The previous game had Aztecs with guns invading Europe, Satanism, and immortality
Anonymous No.2090465 [Report]
>>2090459
That was a fantasy dlc they released for halloween or something, and the latter two can be modified or shut off with game rules, as well as a game rule specifically for supernatural events.
Anonymous No.2090494 [Report] >>2090526
>>2087412
PDX just said that China has 5x the players as non-China.
Anonymous No.2090505 [Report] >>2090546
>>2090203
Why wouldn't he? He's clearly talking about the non-wasteland provinces on the Western fringe of the island that are clearly visible in OP's pic.
Anonymous No.2090526 [Report] >>2090577
>>2090494
why not make a game dedicated to gameplay in east asia instead of adding china to a game called CRUSADER, KINGS, two things that are completely foreign to chinese and japanese history? oh wait its because paradox is ran by morons. i read the dev logs and the imperial examination system is relegated to being a buff effect. pathetic shite.
Anonymous No.2090546 [Report]
>>2090505
The very western fringe was probably as civilized as the spice islands
Anonymous No.2090577 [Report]
>>2090526
they just want the chinabuxx because chinks are a huge part of the playerbase
Anonymous No.2091766 [Report]
One good thign about adding China is that Princes of Darkness will be able to add the Chinese dragons. At last, the final boss of the world will appear. Now we just need Leviathans.
Anonymous No.2091817 [Report]
>>2083510
>the actual thing doing that on company side of things is going to have same issues of bolting things, and not rewriting them
unironically yes, pdx diversity hires are not exactly known for their competent coding
Anonymous No.2095145 [Report] >>2097183 >>2122214
>>2084381
It's okay Anon, will you become the Sultan of Zanzibar, or are you going to be Solid Snake & literally make Zanzibar Land if it real?
Anonymous No.2095146 [Report] >>2095157 >>2095190 >>2095286
>>2084381
Ripe for big Norseman cock
Anonymous No.2095157 [Report]
>>2095146
Man she is ugly
Anonymous No.2095190 [Report] >>2095193
>>2095146
Are you that anon that was creating ginger nigger breeds?
Anonymous No.2095193 [Report] >>2095198
>>2095190
From the very same campaign, yes. I was very disappointed when the very next update they added a hair color slider so you could give anyone whatever retarded multicolored hair you wanted. Your only option should be controlling how grey your hair has gone.
I worked hard on creating this abomination and now anyone can just customize it themselves at will.
Anonymous No.2095198 [Report] >>2095205
>>2095193
Make them green or blue eyed as the next step then.
Anonymous No.2095205 [Report]
>>2095198
It's difficult to tell with the resolution and level of zoom in the game but I think he did have blue eyes. At the very least a few of the mutts in that dynasty did.
In any case, I've moved on to move advanced breeding programs, like Orcs and Drow, or High Elves and Goblins, or Dark Trolls and Succubi.
Anonymous No.2095250 [Report] >>2095262 >>2095289
>>2083187 (OP)
Will this mean that the Mongol world conquest achievement will be permanently harder to get once the expansion is released? Will one be able to turn off the expansion to make it easier?
Anonymous No.2095262 [Report]
>>2095250
Did you miss when they changed it so that mods don't disable achievements anymore? You can just load up some cheat mods if you're so worried about it.
Anonymous No.2095286 [Report] >>2095288
>>2095146
Why dies Ivar not have the Frail or Infirm trait? It is mentioned directly in his legend that he was unable to move on his own and was carried atop of the shield from where he commanded the battle.
Anonymous No.2095288 [Report]
>>2095286
I can't remember how CK3 treats him, he's one-legged there, can't recall if that was from game start or not.
But as far as I'm aware, the exact meaning of his nickname is still debated. Some say it was an insult calling him impotent. Some say it was an insult calling him a coward (like spineless). It was the vikings tv show that popularized the interpretation that he was a gimp.
Anonymous No.2095289 [Report] >>2095296
>>2095250
>anon says that he can't even pull off what Chingis Khan was able to pull by conquering China
You are not a true Khan. You are weak. I will rape your mother and sister. And I spit at you.
Anonymous No.2095296 [Report] >>2095297 >>2095310
>>2095289
Genghis only conquered Northern China.
Anonymous No.2095297 [Report]
>>2095296
can confirm, song china survived until kublai khan
Anonymous No.2095310 [Report]
>>2095296
Yeah, and? That is still a massive portion of land. And then he took the Central Asia too. Are you saying you are such a pansy that you can reenact that in game? Are you scared? Especially when CK3 is so hilariously easy. Are you a noob?
Anonymous No.2095441 [Report]
>>2083229
Other anon said x3d card its the cpu
Go get an old x3d ryzen
Anonymous No.2096364 [Report]
>>2084824
vgh... großsentineliums...
Anonymous No.2097183 [Report]
>>2095145
>It's okay Anon, will you become the Sultan of Zanzibar
I will build New Mombasa
Anonymous No.2097188 [Report]
Norse Caliph of Zanzibar
Anonymous No.2098489 [Report]
>mogadishu
/hg/ is leaking
Anonymous No.2098493 [Report] >>2098514
>>2083187 (OP)
>Litterally abbo apemen added in the game before republica or feudal Europe rework

Whats up with Paradox newfond love for third worlders? Even in the EU V diaries they proudly shows the hundreds of mudhut tribals cult they added
Anonymous No.2098496 [Report]
It's Mógadisjú
Anonymous No.2098514 [Report] >>2098599
>>2098493
To own the euro centric chuds in a game called crusader kings
Anonymous No.2098599 [Report] >>2098614 >>2098650
>>2098514
It's stupid how in this game (set in Golden Age of Islam), Muslims are extremely weak, and in every game Christians take Mecca.
I miss CK2, where Muslims were overpowered and basically conquered France within the first 50 years.
Anonymous No.2098613 [Report]
>>2087401
they have an entire game that is just that
Anonymous No.2098614 [Report] >>2098653
>>2098599
Yeah, having no kinslaying or realm division other than pretender claims made it easier for Muslims. Though they could still implode as empires unlike Christians.
Anonymous No.2098650 [Report]
>>2098599
Inshallah Paradox will fix it to reflect the weakness of the kafir
Anonymous No.2098653 [Report]
>>2098614
it was also the fact, Muslims were richer, more advanced, and populous.
But they too did experience realm divisions, for example when Saladin died, Egypt-Syria was divided between his three or four sons, but eventually Saladin's brother ended up killing all his nephews and uniting the kingdom
Anonymous No.2098902 [Report] >>2099005
>>2083187 (OP)
Why are those spots circled?
Anonymous No.2099005 [Report]
>>2098902
It's a little inconsistent, I think most border the new part of the map and were adjusted in some way. But SE Africa is obviously just new, not adjusted old lands. And those two in Tibet and the Tarim Basin seem too far from the new lands to warrant change, but maybe they wanted to tweak those areas and make them more province dense or something
Anonymous No.2099904 [Report] >>2100000
>>2083455
I’ve been saying that for ages. Antipopes and investiture were hugely important for the time period. What they have set up over time is a stepping stone to having it and perhaps even a better system because more religions can do things with heads of faith and different faiths can even share them now, which could allow for very interesting antipope mechanics or even extend it to other religions as well.
Meanwhile the way cultures can override religion on things like marriage makes it clear something like this could extend to laws overriding clergy placement but it isn’t done. Even if it was though the weird way ck3 handled theocracies preferring leasing instead of individual bishops makes it less beneficial unfortunately.
Anonymous No.2100000 [Report]
>>2099904
I wish it was more dynamic. It's been years, can we get things yet like the Pope becoming the head of Maronite faith.
Anonymous No.2100099 [Report] >>2100541 >>2121078
>>2083187 (OP)
Here I fixed the map.
You can change the game's name from The Old World Ruler Simulator to something snappy like Kings-Who-Crusade.
Or you can continue the content creep with these further expansions with witty names:
>Heart of Lightness - rule the African interior, new slavery, cannibalism and infanticide mechanics
>Dreams - take charge of the Aborigines as they always were, unique unit of stick chuckers (the stick comes back!), these replace bowmen and are 10x as deadly
>Boat Lords - sail the Pacific, brace yourself for youtuber exodus campaigns to eat every Emperor in Europe! also comes with cannibalism mechanics
>Rainbow Lands - south africa now exists and as a united queendom! Frisian culture tagged characters don't survive long down here
>New World Order - the greatest and most ambitious addition yet, all of the Americas from the Malvinas (default name) to Newfoundland! Become High American as the natives! Embark on infrastructure projects as the Inca! Begin the Sunset Invasion as Aztecs and rip the hearts out of Europeans but only Europeans, Aztecs aren't worse people than satanists in CK games we swear!
>Greenlandia! - we were missing this island and decided to fill it in but with an impassable border to prevent any orange-colored taco-triggered people from owning it
Anonymous No.2100541 [Report] >>2100546 >>2100560
>>2100099
Needs Egypt, Hejaz and Mesopotamia and this map is ideal
Anonymous No.2100546 [Report]
>>2100541
I don't think CK1 map was much larger than this.
Anonymous No.2100560 [Report]
>>2100541
>CK1
Retarded, release CK2's map was ideal
Anonymous No.2100697 [Report]
>>2083187 (OP)
I can't wait to take my vampire lesbian French bandit on a grand tour of China, committing bank vault theft while getting 12 FPS.
Anonymous No.2100701 [Report] >>2100723
>>2089829
Paraducks will fuck it up and forget that China spent nearly all its history slaughtering Chinese. And will instead make them a megablob that ends up in Afghanistan by 1050.
Anonymous No.2100702 [Report] >>2100775 >>2100976
>>2088081
CK3 is the only game that takes 10 minutes to load despite being on a 2TB SSD with nothing else on it.
Anonymous No.2100723 [Report] >>2100741
>>2100701
>>And will instead make them a megablob that ends up in Afghanistan by 1050.
So it is historically correct. Afganistan was literally a trade hub profiting from silk road.
Anonymous No.2100741 [Report]
>>2100723
>Chinese trades passing through an area means the Chinese government directly ruled it
No.
Anonymous No.2100775 [Report] >>2100976
>>2100702
Yea it's shitty code. On an SSD as well.
Anonymous No.2100976 [Report] >>2101029
>>2100702
>>2100775
The load is a little longer than normal games for me, but the only other person I've heard complain about it was a whiny entitled faggot that didn't want to accept that he was playing on a toaster.
Your shitty sata ssd is little better than an hdd.
Anonymous No.2101029 [Report] >>2101036 >>2101056
>>2100976
I got RTX 3060, I5-12400F, 32gb ram and it is on a Crucial BX500 SATA... but I got a NVMe. Will reinstalling on that help?
Anonymous No.2101036 [Report]
>>2101029
No, that won't make any real difference, I would also recommend not replying to the clueless shill.
Anonymous No.2101056 [Report]
>>2101029
A Samsung 990 pro read speed is almost 14 times faster than your bx500
Anonymous No.2102168 [Report]
On the bright side, total conversion mods are going to run much smoother.
Anonymous No.2102261 [Report]
>>2083312
great, we can be weebs from the Byzantine throne
Anonymous No.2102282 [Report]
>>2083312
What does a real chinese themed room look like?
Anonymous No.2109199 [Report]
The internal borders of the Holy Roman Empire in vanilla are genuinely atrocious
Anonymous No.2114832 [Report]
I hate the chinks I hate the chinks I hate the chinks I hate the chinks I hate the chinks I hate the chinks I hate the chinks I hate the chinks I hate the chinks
Anonymous No.2115139 [Report]
>>2083547
>he doesn't know how to memearrow
>said all that
Bot phrase. This this post is AI.
Anonymous No.2116264 [Report] >>2116826 >>2118582
>>2083187 (OP)
Is it just me or are Muslims weak? Seems like in my every campaign, Christians take Mecca within first 100 years
Anonymous No.2116826 [Report]
>>2116264
VGH
Anonymous No.2116982 [Report]
>Guge
Anonymous No.2118511 [Report]
>>2083187 (OP)
so I can wipe the map clean right?
Anonymous No.2118582 [Report]
>>2116264
I think its just you muslims are stronk
Anonymous No.2118763 [Report]
>>2084734
>they're swedish. They assume everyone is just like them, then get shot to death with smuggled somali AK-47s. Then they cry about the poor somali who is so poor he had to resort to a life of gang crime and internal drug wars
somebody please make toyota wars into a grand strategy
Anonymous No.2118786 [Report] >>2120076 >>2120139 >>2120507
my computer isn't pleb tier so I'll be able to run it just fine, but I just don't get why they'd add China before actually adding interesting core gameplay mechanics like trade and ship building.
Anonymous No.2119004 [Report] >>2120507
>>2083339
>the designers are torn between giving more content or accuratly depicting a medieval life
They're not really torn, it's been clear since launch that Paradox is treating CK3 as their own version of The Sims first and as a crusades simulator a distant second. The asia stuff is being added for all the LARPers wanting asian waifus, not for hypothetical people that want China in a game about the crusades.
Anonymous No.2120076 [Report]
>>2118786
...you seriously don't get that?
Anonymous No.2120139 [Report] >>2120145
>>2118786
>just don't get why they'd add China before actually adding interesting core gameplay mechanics
This everything is fucked up.
In my game, pope literally called a crusade for a random exclave in the middle of Asia.
The crusade succeeded and 100 yeas later there is random Catholic exclave thousand kilometers away from other Christian sites
The game is just full of these types of things
Anonymous No.2120145 [Report] >>2120167
>>2120139
Does CK3 just not have crusade target weight like CK2?
Anonymous No.2120167 [Report]
>>2120145
Looking at files it doesn't seem to.
I'm not sure how it works, but it seems random
Anonymous No.2120507 [Report] >>2120614 >>2120639
>>2118786
>>2119004
China is in the game for the same reason every other strategy game has shoehorned them in; they want Chinkbux and don't care how hard they have to pander to get it.
Anonymous No.2120614 [Report]
>>2120507
why do the chinks want me to travel over to china to spread christianity and impregnate lots of chink women
Anonymous No.2120639 [Report]
>>2120507
Paradox always does a shitty job with China. It's a shame because these games already have a big Chinese audience with their own crazy mod scene that tries it best to fix the game but can only do so much. I hope chinkbux make them turn this around.
EU5 looks like a step in the right direction but still not great, but better than EU4 which was shit at portraying Ming china.
CK3 seems the best by far. they have all the ministries, actual examinations, faction politics, memorials, corruption. It only seems to be missing the imperial clan and eunuchs.
Yuji Sakai No.2120674 [Report]
https://voca.ro/1nL3E2mlaAyE
Anonymous No.2120679 [Report] >>2120690 >>2120707 >>2120755
>>2083339
The paradox (pun intended) of CK3 is that they want the sims aspect of medieval life, but then don't put in enough sims content to make that actually a key part of the game. All you get is random events and you click one or two buttons and its over. There's no immersion in sim life at all.

If you're wanting power building and warfare, there's almost no reason to do it because no matter what you take it'll just be split up between your heirs. Then you have to fight for all of it again. And unlike in CK2 you don't inherit armies based on territories you own. You inherit the full stack of MAAs and then have to start firing them so you don't go bankrupt upon character death. It makes building anything not worth your time, since its just an endless loop of build, collapse, build, collapse.

This game needs like 10 new activities to do, 50 new decisions at the minimum, and tons more events. And that's just to flesh out the sims aspect. I have no idea how they'd fix the grand strat aspect.
Anonymous No.2120690 [Report]
>>2120679
No... no more events. The writing is so rancid that I want to back to CK2 events.
Anonymous No.2120707 [Report] >>2120758 >>2120767 >>2120865 >>2120925
>>2120679
this part
>no matter what you take it'll just be split up between your heirs. Then you have to fight for all of it again.
Is exactly how the "grand strat aspect" should be. It's supposed to work like this, anything else leads to snowballing. It's not something to be fixed, it should stay like this. I WISH other games like EU had mechanics that led to big blobs splitting up or declining. With possible calamities around succession.
The "permanent" stuff like dynasty bonuses and passing down genes is a good way of having long term progression. Artifacts are also part of that i guess.
Anonymous No.2120755 [Report] >>2120757 >>2120758
>>2120679
>If you're wanting power building and warfare, there's almost no reason to do it because no matter what you take it'll just be split up between your heirs. Then you have to fight for all of it again.
This sounds awesome and exactly what it should be like.
I hate how in other Paradox games you've inevitably won after ~3-5 hours because your realm would grow exponentially while being hyper stable for eternity.
Anonymous No.2120757 [Report]
>>2120755
Sounds awesome but they don't actually commit to it. The game is too easy and a bore anyways.
Anonymous No.2120758 [Report] >>2120760 >>2120871
>>2120707
>>2120755
That's not how that mechanic works, that guy is just bad at the game.
Anonymous No.2120760 [Report] >>2120768 >>2120782
>>2120758
How does it actually work? I haven't played ck in ages but I thought that was the default behavior if you don't cheese it or pass special laws
Anonymous No.2120767 [Report] >>2120798 >>2120946
>>2120707
That's some serious leap in logic. The answer to snowballing is to have actual mechanics to simulate the difficulty of administrating a large realm, not "arbitrarily lose half of the progress you made." Not that Paradox is capable of implementing that, so they just added the hilariously misrepresentated ""gavelkind succession"" ontop of their already ridiculous depiction of feudalism in CK2/3 and you can't criticize without a drone going "no you see the game is supposed to be HARD," I've seen this exact interaction much in the forums lol
Anonymous No.2120768 [Report] >>2120871
>>2120760
There's about a million ways to get around it in CK3, it's pretty clearly the intended way of doing things and not "cheesing", CK2 was different in this regard. The laws are also pretty easy to pass unless you're starting as a tribal in the earliest start date.
Anonymous No.2120782 [Report] >>2120871
>>2120760
It's pretty easy to cheese gavelkind, for one your highest tier title will always go to your primary heir so just make sure you only have one kingdom/empire depending on how big your realm is. You can also only have bastard children and then only legitimize the one you want as heir, use elective succession, play as a culture that starts with house seniority or high partition (no auto title creation).
Anonymous No.2120798 [Report] >>2121470
>>2120767
I mean you're right that it needs to be balanced, but realms being split by inheritance is also one of the difficulties of ruling a feudal realm like this. Whether it's because the lands are split up between brothers, or the lands AREN'T split up which leaves a lot of brothers that have to be shoved off into the provinces or killed. CK feudalism is pretty weird but if you're making a medieval game and you want
>mechanics to simulate the difficulty of administrating a large realm
shouldn't the nature of polities as heritable property be one of those mechanics?
Anonymous No.2120865 [Report] >>2120880
>>2120707
>Is exactly how the "grand strat aspect" should be
Then they have to go back to CK2s MAA system, because this one sucks dick.
Anonymous No.2120871 [Report] >>2120953
>>2120758
>>2120768
The only way to get around the gavelkind shit is to metagame and start assassinating your kids or get strong hooks to stuff them in the church. Or metagame the way this guy said >>2120782 and intentionally kill or divorce your wife after the first heir. Instead of making succession interesting, it's just 'Let's exploit the mechanics!' and then people delude themselves into thinking that makes the game great. No, it's boring shit and metagaming just as much as rushing Rome in Imperator Rome is to stop Rome from snowballing. "Oh you want to play a Gaulic kingdom? Okay, step one, declare war on Rome" is the kind of thing that indicates broken game mechanics rather than balance. CK2 succession wasn't as terrible. CK3s system is just boring as fuck. At least set it up so you can decide which heirs get which provinces. Hold a council event or something.
Anonymous No.2120880 [Report]
>>2120865
Realistically, there should be three troops:
>retinue (small army always with the liege, numbering from 30 to 300)
>MAA (knights and serjeants, who own land and can called to military service)
>levies (auxiliary units)
Anonymous No.2120925 [Report]
>>2120707
>The "permanent" stuff like dynasty bonuses and passing down genes is a good way of having long term progression.
The genetic program is good because it comes with a trade-off and is hard to maintain.
But dynasty bonuses are a horrible addition, as they are permanent and make the game easier.
IMO better would be some sort of dynastic reputation system that needs personal actions to maintain. For example, dynasties would gain Dynastic Generosity by granting land to non-dynasty members, and lose it by revoking land from non-dynasty members. At 100% Dynastic Geneorsity dynasty would get +10 vassal opinion or something.
Anonymous No.2120946 [Report]
>>2120767
>"arbitrarily lose half of the progress you made."
Conquest is not progress.
The point of conquest is not to deny resources from your neighbors so they are too weak to do the same to you.
Anonymous No.2120953 [Report] >>2132098
>>2120871
>start assassinating your kids
You can't plot to murder your kids, but I mean it's pretty easy to get your sons killed in battle.
Anonymous No.2121078 [Report] >>2121425
>>2100099
come home, white man
Anonymous No.2121425 [Report]
>>2121078
Anonymous No.2121470 [Report] >>2122201
>>2120798
>shouldn't the nature of polities as heritable property be one of those mechanics?
It would be except that a lot of cultures who practice Stem Nuclear and Absolute Nuclear family systems are represented as practising Egalitarian Nuclear family systems.

Stem Nuclear: Eldest son takes everything, other sons get nothing. Practised by Germans, most Norwegians, Swedes, the Irish, the Scottish, the Czechs, and the Occitans as well as some other southern French & northern Spanish cultures.

Absolute Nuclear: Arbitrary inheritance up to the father, he can give one son everything, split it equally, split it unequally, whatever he wants. Practised by English, Dutch, Danish, some Norwegians.

Egalitarian Nuclear: Equal division of inheritance among all sons; Paradox treats all Europeans as following this system by default when historically only a minority did. IRL, practised by central French, north & south Italians (but not central Italians, they practised a communal large-family system similar to asians; as did the majority of Slavs, and the Finns), Romanians, Poles, most Spaniards

Often these were not absolute laws, of course, and in the nobility's case in particular, politics often trumped cultural tradition. If you were trying to manage too large a realm and/or really wanted all your sons to be at relative peace with each other you might choose to partition rather than risk civil war, even if your culture normally didn't do absolute/egalitarian inheritance. And likewise, as the French eventually started doing, you might have egalitarian inheritance in general but you pass the throne down to one son without territorial division because you realize it's bad for the realm to keep splitting it.

Forcing partition on everyone is retarded, it should be an option, with a risk of civil war if you have multiple sons who have a lot of political or military capital and you don't partition.
Anonymous No.2122201 [Report]
>>2121470
Jesus Christ man
Sure, the game depicts everyone as starting doing the 'egalitarian nuclear' model. But you can do all of those other things at some point in the game. Different versions of the partition succession exist, and you can designate heirs. You have to unlock them though, sure. Personally, I think primogeniture should unlock way earlier than it currently in the game- but it should have heavy vassal opinion penalties until you research the civic techs that currently 'unlock it'.
Anonymous No.2122214 [Report] >>2128863
>>2095145
>be Solid Snake & literally make Zanzibar Land if it real
Whats the closest thing to a mercenary nation that you can make in CK3 ?
Anonymous No.2128863 [Report]
>>2122214
>Whats the closest thing to a mercenary nation that you can make in CK3 ?
The "Elevate the Kingdom of Mann & the Isles" decision creates an implied pirate nation.
Anonymous No.2130547 [Report]
>game has basically zero mechanics that aren't just you building up your doomstack and firing off events to acquire as many positive traits as possible
>I know, we need to add CHYNA AND NIPPON which will be same shit as base game, but with 20 new events and a tab with special resource
I wish these retards made your land actually relevant beyond the number of building slots you get.
Anonymous No.2132098 [Report]
>>2120953
you can with the sadistic trait, that's why every retarded powergamer treats it like a virtue trait