is it worth it if your into dark age european history, the migration period and the fall of rome?

>>2084411 (OP)
If you want more historical accuracy or groundedness i recommend installing Insularis Draco for Medieval 2 instead (more emphasis on slow engagements, low unit count unless you're Rome, etc.)

But i personally still like Attilla, the fact that you can do shit like making Eastern Rome slavic pagans and winning the game that way is fucking funny

>>2084411 (OP)
no but barbarian invasion for rome 1 (2004 original not remastered) is

>>2084417
Attila has some of the best religion mechanics in the franchise just through sheer diversity of religions. The only way it could be better is if you could go on crusade.

>>2084643
retard

>>2084643
Crusades/armed pilgrimages weren't invented yet (at least as we know it) and the pope didn't have that much political influence at the time.

>>2084411 (OP)
Attila has good foundations but the period is quite boring and factions too samey, add the unfinished state of the game for injury,

>>2084411 (OP)
I can't play a total war game again after getting into grand strat games.
Right now I'm having a ton of fun with Imperator: Rome

>>2084411 (OP)
>Attila Total Turn

It was the last turn based game I will take seriously. Ever. From now on the I will choose easy or normal setting. Every Total War Legendary setting is the same once you've mastered Attila. Completing Western Roman Empire on Legendary will be every other Total War grand campaign. I loved Thrones of Brittannia and Troy but they lacked the replayability of Attila. There Legendary setting was just a worse version of Attila.

There are maybe 5 games that will put hair on your chest, make your nuts drop, and make you talk deep like Barry White.

1)Myth and Myth II Soulblighter. Play these in the dark with surround sound.
2)Win a team tournament in Counterstrike with a clan you know in person.
3)Attila Total War WRE on Legendary. While learning to cheese Alans to Iberia is something, WRE no cheese will make you a man. The Total War franchise will be at your feet kneeling in defeat if you can do it with no mods or cheese.
4)The ending of The Darkness. You can watch it on youtube but it is not the same. It is worth a watch even if you never play it. It hit then it still hits today.
5)Parts of the GTA 3, VC, SA.

Honorable mentions to Sid Meirs Pirates Gold!. It is not a man maker but it captures the spirit of a man. Also X Com enemy unknown, there are literally no better turn based games like the DOS Xcom. Playing Golden Eye with friends on a N64 put people can't do that now easily. You just had to be there.

Getting the Alans to Iberia in the not so traditional way was kino. Getting Suebi into Cheese mode was fun. But Legendary WRE no cheese ended my sanity and my hope for another genre definer from the Total War series.

Get it on sale. It will forge you into a man. You just have to play that shit in the dark, going just one more turn, until the sun comes up, and you will know. Then you will never be able to play another turn based game again, because they are all too pussy for you. It just be like that you know.

>>2084411 (OP)
>Age of Charlemagne Campaign

This too. It is banging.

This DLC blows the lid off Attila, making it top contender for best strategy game of all time. They rework the buildings in such a way as to deepen the game world. It shows in Thrones and some what in Troy. I would rather play Dynasty Warriors then Kingdoms. If you have played it you know more than me.

You will be able to tell who the noobs are, who the min max types are, by looking at their Attila Legendary runs. No cities can be razed. The rebellions must be managed with diplomacy, as the AI cheats they will hold and build for the player better than they can.

A top WRE player knows to never let a town be razed and to keep some of the Roman culture rebel factions rebuild and hold towns instead of noob buffer zones. Buffer states are for barbarians who need to run from the Huns not for classy civilized folk. It is taking multiple losses in a row while rushing Brittania and North Africa, cycling rebellion crusher armies and mercenary stacks. Failing that heavy infantry from Subei and Roman infantry barracks counter North Africa.

You can get Iberia first as Alans via Constantine and Rome if you rush catapults. It's also possible to switch to paganism on that route.

What Total War players want is Attila with ToB or Troy optimization and art styles.

Sorry I'm a bit drunk this holiday.

>>2085348
You played these games for the campaign map stuff? I liked that aspect enough, but the battles are the best part

>>2086426
Eh, I never got into the battles. Something wouldn't go the way I expected, I'd lose, and now the entire playthrough needs to be restarted

>>2086436
You start campaigns over after losing a battle? Coming back from setbacks is like half the fun in TW

>>2084411 (OP)
Probably, because there are barely any vidya about that time period, sadly.

>>2090727
And when there is, it's always about the very end of the age i.e vikings and shiet. Or they have shitty anachronistic clothes and armor. Both actually.

>>2090727
For whatever reason it is either the most overlooked or ignored parts of history

>>2085383
>WRE no cheese will make you a man. The Total War franchise will be at your feet kneeling in defeat if you can do it with no mods or cheese.
Does "no cheese" include not using a single calvary unit to defeat entire armies during sieges like I've seen youtubes do hundreds of times?

>>2084411 (OP)
It's pretty good, definitely a top 3 TW game. It would be even better if the AI was able to cope with its mechanics though. As it stands, unless you use mods to disable climate change and massively nerf the Huns, most of the AI factions become an absolute joke by early midgame.

Posting the next set of screenshots from my campaign after >>2084050 since the other thread died
As the spring dawned upon the year 413, the Western Roman Empire breathed a slight sigh of relief. The Hunnic threat had been dealt with for the moment, though more of their accursed hordes were known to be on the way. In the meantime however, Sextus Perennis and the VI legion had other concerns. The migrating tribe of the Jutes, having been intimidated off of Hispanian shores, had chosen to sail north and make landfall in Britannia once again. From his legion's encampment at Lindum, Sextus is quite confident in his ability to vanquish this long-wandering barbarians and put an end to their loitering off the Emperor's shores.
(1/5)

>>2098176
Rhaetia has been saved, thanks to patience on the part of the emperor and the valor of his legions. Waiting but one season to attack the huns gave time for those easterners to err, splitting their hordes up in an effort to spread further into the empire's borders (aided by several of these hordes being waylaid by imperial spies). The two hordes which remained in Rhaetia were destroyed with relative ease by the I and XXII legions, leaving only two remaining hordes to destroy. One horde had travelled southeast into Dalmatia where it would be confronted by the X legion under Sextus Lentulus, while the larger and more threatening of the two had stopped in the alpine passes north of Mediolanum. This proximity to the Imperial throne made the horde a top priority for the I legion, which made a mad dash southwards, even as it recovered from the earlier battle. In the heat of the summer, Vettius Praetexatus and the I legion managed to beat back their second Hunnic Horde in a mere half a year. Currently they remain encamped at Mediolanum. While the specter of a Hunnic return looms eastwards in the ruins of Germania, the most immediate threat to Rhaetia is currently the migrating Danes, who are being watched closely by the legions near them (2/5).
Gonna post the rest in a few hours.

>>2098192
The X legion had an equally difficult battle in the east against their own Hunnic opponent, made all the more dire by the enemy's complement of onagers pelting the infantry as they approached. In the end, however, Sextus Lentulus did manage to annihilate the easterners, keeping Dalmatia safe for the moment. One threat does remain to the south, however. The Magyar hordes, defensive allies of the Huns, lay siege to the independent city of Dyrrachium. Should they end the siege, either in victory or defeat, they are sure to turn their covetous gazes northwards. Lentulus now intends to march south to a point where the province's border may be better defended. (3/5)
Also slight correction for the previous post: It was the I and XXX legions fighting Huns in Rhaetia, as the XXII was still marching southwards at the time.

>>2098304
In even more positive developments, Emperor Honorius has decided that with the recent significant increases in Imperial income, the foundation of a new legion was in order. And so the VIII legion has been established in North Africa, mustering out of Hippo Regius. As the Garamantians and squabbling rebels erode the Eastern Roman presence in Egypt, this legion may soon find itself on the front lines of any military action, should hostilities break out with those usurpers. (4/5)

>>2098311
Within the Imperial court, a sense of slight reprieve is felt. Not a lasting peace, of course, for the Huns appear quite ready to return within perhaps a year's time. Now, however, the legions are ready to take the threat head-on, gathered in strength as they are. One source of optimism is the goodwill that Rome's actions against the Huns has engendered among her Barbarian neighbors, which has secured a trade agreement with the Alamans and a non-aggression pact with the Marcomans. (5/5)

>>2084411 (OP)
Ok no longer drunk and I went back to Attila after 5 years of a break. They have WRE fortifying Iberia now so I have been unable to test an Allan rush. I will try to start at Tarraco instead of Vienna when razing to see if it can be beaten. I already have gotten a run as Ostrogoths at fully settled and ready to challenge Huns at turn 45.

It's a stupid update for the WRE to defend Iberia to the point of losing Rome but the updaters get away with gay aids like this because the original devs moved on. The WRE Seperatists also drip rebellion instead of the usual pop which can be timed so f an a I heard fans of Star Craft told Blizzard not to remaster it because they would ruin it. I understand.

>>2098322
Looks good.

>>2098103
True. My favorite mod was called No Cheats for the AI and it literally kill off 1/2 of the factions due to the debuffs. It was a nice revenge watching those 17 stack sub factions unable to feed themselves through 2 winters.

>>2102151
So the WRE AI will defend Iberia after 400 A.D. at some point.

While they did not wall Carthago Nova and Tarraconesis with perma stacks they let their capital die.

So it's still get their early or take from whoever takes it while they are away attacking WRE Africa or whatever else is left.

It's just stupid to abandon Rome and the peninsula because a small fleet can pick off hordes all day. The place is a death trap to invaders without owning cities due to all the river crossings and mountains.

The screenshot shows a test run while Subei got to Elusa first making a liberated Septimania not Vienna, it still shows the AI abandons Rome.

If they are going to pin Legions to zones, put a half stack on the garrison by Alamans, that alone can hold off 2 1/2 stacks if even only killing half of them, and its cheap. A half stack and a small fleet in Venice would be more realistic than a perma stack in Tarraco.

Just my opinion, the catharsis of the purges from Attila no longer do it for me. Back to Troy or ToB.

I still don't understand how to play Total War games.

greetings attilachads, have you got a reskin mod for the last roman dlc you would recommend?

>>2084411 (OP)
Yes, there are criminally almost no video games set during this time and it’s one of the best total war games, aside from the graphics which aren’t optimized that well. It has some of the best mechanics in total war (hordes, razing, environmental decay) and can be a real challenge where in other games you can pretty simply blob and become OP very rapidly unless playing on the hardest difficulty. Playing as WRE trying to survive, a barbarian tribe trying to migrate and settle, or the Huns just burning the entire map to the ground, there actually feels like faction variety instead of having 30 same-y playing factions with different skins

If you like the BILLIONS MUST DIE approach for the huns I’d also recommed playing the sea peoples in Pharaoh: Dynasties since you can take a marauder path and refuse to settle and just try to wipe everyone off the map. It’s a fun way to play

>>2102624
how