The greatest RTS of all time.

>>2084873 (OP)
It really is

God I loved this game.

Bannon did nothing wrong and Malashenko died like a little commie bitch he was

>>2084873 (OP)
Ehh, it was weird and arcadey experimental game MP focused game. People forget how it actually played and just glaze it based just of half remembered defend the homeland patriotic storyline and ironically it wasn't even made by americans.
If it came out today people would call it MOBAfied shit for having only like 4-5 units per player and everything having activated abilities just for something like firing off an ATGM.

>>2084937
MOBA is when each player has designated role in a simulation of combined arms warfare

>>2084942
Great example. This is something someone would have definitely said

>>2084937
>MP focused
The storytelling was stylized and kino

>>2084873 (OP)
I have it to play single-player but have not gotten around to it yet

I love the game, but I feel like Soviet Assault diminishes the impact of the main campaign.
In the US sided campaign it feels very desperate, everything is shit, your victories are just delaying the Soviets until you have to make the final act that does enough to force them to pull out.

But with the expansion every other mission you're seeing the Soviet side and finding out actually everything is fine the Soviets are also losing big badly :)
It diminishes the feeling of 'this is it, if you fail the US is fucked' and instead is like, if I fail I guess the soviets will lose in another 2 weeks instead of 1?
And vice versa, independently they're fine but I feel like both campaigns trying to convince you that you're the underdog and your actions are make or break at the same time conflicts.

>>2084873 (OP)
Kino setting, kino ideas. Could have used more content (EU, China, maybe some Warpac allies guys or Japs) and a publisher that isn't Jewisoft.

>>2084873 (OP)
>greatest RTS of all time
>crashes when you alt+tab

>>2085631
Welcome Back Generals Zero Hour

>>2084942
I loved the fact that you only controlled a few units at once, i hate shit like eugen games where you have like 50 units at once like fuck off i want to micro a few and look at their cool animations

>>2085266
Both sides were caught off-guard by how far things went honestly, USSR decided to speederun world revolution to prevent its own collapse while being at the peak of its military strength, surprise invasion into USA was meant to disable star wars satellites that actually don't exist, for NATO its struggle against strong foe who is barely kept at bay from going nuclear only thanks to propaganda, for WarPact and chinks its a struggle against the time itself before USSR runs out of juice.

>>2084937

Ehhh go kill yourself you clearly weren't there at the time

>>2085631
why would you alt+tab?

>>2085747

Gotta jork off to tiktok memes and ruin their attention span on Xitter

>>2084873 (OP)
>No base building
>No economy management
Not a strategy game

>>2086903
>>No economy management
Dumb dumb

>>2085713
>weren't there at the time
Okay and that would change things because? Did the game play differently back then? Which part of what I said was wrong?
This is exactly what I'm talking about, you are just judging the game on vibes. The only refutation you have is "you don't sharey vibes". I was around when the game was new but I didn't get the infatuation with it back then either.

>>2086896
at this point I do it out of habit without thinking about it

It wasn't considered arcadey, and the Wargame series was half a decade out yet and anything with any level of mechanical detail was turn-based or visual dog shite. It was praised in reviews across print and the web for ditching base building and focussing on combat. The story isn't patriotic. It has America using nukes on its own soil in an attempt to drive a war to a stalemate. It has soldiers committing war crimes and acting cowardly. Not to mention the story is delivered with voice acting that puts pretty much every other RTS ever outside of Homeworld to shame.

Better yet, the multiplayer was packed. Servers busting at the seems every night for a couple of years. Voice chat in place at a time when PC had dropped behind console in that regard.

>>2087460
>The story isn't patriotic.
lol, lmao even. It's literally Independence Day: Soviet Version.
Using nukes on your own soil just illustrates how desperate the situation is, and yet Bannon gets his hero moment (some might even argue, a redemption moment) and in the end the "underdog" wins despite all odds being against them, just on account of them being so determined and heroic and having this exceptional leadership and everything.

Roland Emmerich directing a Michael Bay production couldn't be more MURRICA FUCK YEAH than this.

>>2087545

You said it yourself cock womble, it wasn't even made in the 'States.

Also, they win one major op against the russians. Chinese don't engage. European theatre is still in motion.

Pyrrhic victory? LOL, lmao even.

And again the game was popular af.

>>2087579
That wasn't me, anon.
I am merely rejecting the notion that it's "not patriotic".
Also, you are reading wayyyy too much into the story.

>>2084873 (OP)
akshually it is RTT not RTS

>>2087660

RTT fuckers just go.

Chris Taylor coined the phrase about Starcraft but all the gookclickers got pissy and tried to turn it around

Nobody called WiC an RTT at the time.

>>2087693
>World in Conflict is a 2007 real-time tactics video game[...]

>>2087699
>quoting the 2025 Wikipedia article
I bet you also sperg out if somebody calls the FN FAL an assault rifle.

>>2087708
It is a battle rifle, not an assault rifle.

>>2087699
>World in Conflict (commonly abbreviated WiC or WIC among players) is a real-time strategy video game developed by the Swedish video game company Massive Entertainment
>Wikipedia, 2009
Pretty damn funny to think that some sperg probably felt real slick when editing that into RTT

>>2087712
Thanks for proving my point. Also, the manufacturer itself calls it a "fusil d'assaut".

>>2087739

Kek.

>>2084937
>it was weird
fuck you
>and arcadey
true however

the unit abilities are crap
the unit types are way too rock-paper-scissors
more and more games were coming up with ability calldowns

WIC was saved by a cool storyline with a tiny dash of character, amazing graphics, and the 9/11 factor - it had been some time since anyone contemplated an actual attack by humans against CONUS

>>2087460
nearly everything you said is wrong

>>2087725
>>2087693
>Nobody called WiC an RTT at the time
>https://www.cnet.com/reviews/world-in-conflict-review/
>https://www.ign.com/articles/2009/03/16/world-in-conflict-complete-edition-review
what would you know, you weren't born yet

>>2086903
>No base building
>No economy management
Good. Learn to do strategy that fits within imposed unit limitations.

>>2088024
>>it was weird
>fuck you
The weird part is having drop-in multiplayer in a strategy game like it was a CoD lobby cycling through maps when the match ended.

>>2088024
>at the time
>2012
Sir I know things before your date of birth are hard but 2012 and 2007 aren't the same.

>>2088192
Attention to detail is important in life, son.

visual novel camouflaged as a strategy game. fucking endwar had more engaging gameplay

>>2088024
Not using the moniker, you zoomer prick.

Thanks for proving my point.

What modern RTS's play like WiC? Or could be considered a "spiritual successor"?

>>2088580
No strategy game is as cinematic as WiC apart from maybe Homeworld.
Different wargames are kind of similar but they are largely multiplayer and usually focus on bigger maps.
Company of Heroes is a squad based game with a smaller scale campaign missions so it fits the bill. But it has base building and feels a bit more arcady.
Men of War leans more into realism and the squads squads aren't really a single unit but infantry is a lot more dangerous. But more realistic vehicle combat is I would say an improvement. Also no base building, you get points from capturing shit so it's more WiC in that regard.
Combination of the last two is Syrian Warfare. Squads are a single unit, but so are vehicle crews and infantry is fucking deadly, even more so if you use the scuffed stealth system to your advantage. Also leans into realistic vehicle combat. Each mission has a max limit of certain units you can bring and you can only reinforce at scripted points. Squads also carry over between missions and you use points to by more squads and vehicles.
These fit the "WiC spiritual successor" best so take your pick.

>>2088580
everyone forgot about ground control 2 so you can treat that as a spiritual successor instead of the other way around

>>2088975

Aged really badly for some reason. Ground Control 1 doesn't feel half as bad.

>>2088580
Closest cinematic RTS I played was Ancestor's Legacy but thats medieval CoH
Then there is Syrian Warfare but mechanically it felt way more rigid. Terminator Dark Defiance was closer to it though

>>2089026
i feel the opposite, in fact, i felt ground control 1 was extremely ugly and dated even when gc 2 came out (i didn't play gc1 when it originally came out, but massive released it for free to generate hype for gc2 in 2003 or 2004).

>>2084937
people only blindly shit on this game because it makes them seem interesting (it doesn't)

>>2088580
Broken Arrow is obviously taking quite a bit of inspiration from World in Conflict.
It's gameplay isn't super close though, some bits taken from WiC, other bits taken from stuff like Wargame. Or like, World in Conflict if dramatically less arcadey.

>>2087545
>only characters who go THESE COLORS DON'T RUN STAND FOR THE FLAG TAKE BACK BURGER KING all die off in the early missions
>Sawyer and Webb are obviously disturbed by the invasion but keep a cool head and act like professionals until the very end where losing Cascade Falls and Bannon take a toll on Sawyer's judgement.
>Entire operation happens because Germany is a meat grinder for NATO and the Americans get BTFO at sea, leading to the Pacific Fleet getting transferred
>Webb theorizing since they haven't heard news that Europe might have fallen.

>>2087650
The game points this out in dialogue you moron. I was a American teenager when it came out. By the end of the game, I didn't feel pride that I had saved my country. I felt "holy shit war sucks." What the Soviets did in game is what America was doing in real life and what practically every invading force does, no matter how pretty technology and civilian considerations make it look. Somebody's house is going to get blown up. Someone's family is going to get torn apart. Someone's business is going to be erased etc.

It's a damn shame that they didn't have enough time to actually implement the Chinese faction like they planned. I would love to see the Pacific theater and see the US bring the war to China after their attempt to land in Seattle.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZiZ7wsJqJU4
One of the best cutscsenes in the game, along with one of the best tracks in the game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afn5-Um8X-Y

Unfortunately, it seems the U.S has chosen to side with Ivan today instead of Europe. Sawyer would dropkick each and every fucking retard over there for siding with with the sl*vs.

>>2090830
>Somebody's house is going to get blown up. Someone's family is going to get torn apart. Someone's business is going to be erased etc.
God how I hate you retarded americans. You are completely unable to feel any empathy unless the MC looks like you or the game/movie/etc. is set in the US. MUHHHH REPRESENTATION
Do you not think that war is bad when you play a game NOT set in the US?
>HELL YEAH FUCKING NAZIS! TAKE THIS COMMUNIST PIG! FUCKING SANDNIGGERS!
>oh no, not the Burger Kingerino! War is bad ;_;

Btw, not a single one of your points disprove my argument, they actually reinforce my points. Protip: Patriotism is not always $COUNTRY FUCK YEAH.
It was a patriotic story, maybe even moreso than e.g. Independence Day or Saving Private Ryan (one of the most insidious propaganda pieces of all time).

>>2084873 (OP)
what game

>>2091097
Problem Child 2

>>2084873 (OP)
where the fuck the claim "didn't sell" come from? back when it was released, it was on the cover of every single fucking gaming magazine on the goddamn planet and they all praised it like the second coming of Christ (our lord and saviour). Adverts and posters everywhere, commercials, you name it. Everyone with a computer knew about it.

>>2091206
I knowed about it but I diden't boughted it

>>2091081
Unfunny spergout aside, you said it's "AMERICA FUCK YEAH" which I disproved it being so and then you move goalposts going "w-well, patroitism isn't always FUCK YEAH AMERICA." I also forgot to mention that Sawyer says the US Airforce bombed Seattle just as much as the Soviets. Real patriotic, showing a government bombing its own civilians.

My favorite missions are all winter ones, so comfy :)

>>2084873 (OP)
Bannon did nothing wrong. Sawyer was a POG and wasn't fit for command.