/oxce/ - OpenXCOM Mods - /vst/ (#2095462)

Anonymous
7/16/2025, 3:30:14 PM No.2095462
1535240262300
1535240262300
md5: 10e56c2f7f7222ac0294d6d95ffbfc4a🔍
>OXCE?
OpenXcom is a free open-source game engine for the original 1994 X-Com: UFO Defense (aka UFO: Enemy Unknown) and 1996 X-Com: Terror from the Deep games.
OXCE extends OXC modding capabilities and is home to megamods like X-Piratez, X-Com Files, 40k ROSIGMA and more.

>Game
https://www.gog.com/en/game/xcom_ufo_defense
https://openxcom.org/downloads-milestones/

>Mods
https://mod.io/g/openxcom
https://www.moddb.com/mods/x-piratez/downloads (XPZ)
https://mod.io/g/openxcom/m/the-x-com-files (XCF)

>Resources
https://openxcom.org/forum/
https://www.ufopaedia.org/
https://xpedia.netlify.app/ (XPZ)
https://xcf.trigramreactor.net/master (XCF)

Previous thread >>2051545
Replies: >>2096636
Anonymous
7/16/2025, 4:51:45 PM No.2095530
1644013670015
1644013670015
md5: f6580f790b6ea67fbc99699bf00d6ced🔍
>get shadowtech immediately on no codex
>squander the early lead by never getting purple bloom for months, thus preventing the blessings+dark star+savage hunts
Anonymous
7/16/2025, 5:00:33 PM No.2095544
Heavy Metal FAKK 2
Heavy Metal FAKK 2
md5: af5e74025e442b9a18c0e2ac2af86e6e🔍
Just realized the lokk avenger armor is based on fakk 2
Replies: >>2096066
Anonymous
7/16/2025, 7:00:39 PM No.2095633
Good weapon to capture stargod operatives with? Every time I shoot, stab or even sneeze at them, it's a crapshoot of if it'll do nothing, stun them or vaporize them. Ironically, the novices and guardians are easier to capture, because they can take more punishment.
And yeah, I've tried just punching them but these fuckers have such a high evasion rate, it's insane.
Replies: >>2095638 >>2095640 >>2095664 >>2095697
Anonymous
7/16/2025, 7:10:31 PM No.2095638
>>2095633
ranged electric damage works fine, 100% damage to blue shields too
think tazogun, zapper, tesla coil, electric lasso, reticulan electrogun these all work fine
Anonymous
7/16/2025, 7:15:05 PM No.2095640
>>2095633
Neural whip works best for me.
Anonymous
7/16/2025, 7:58:56 PM No.2095664
>>2095633
Neural whips are my standard SG capture tool as well.
Anonymous
7/16/2025, 8:35:26 PM No.2095697
>>2095633
The ultimate late game capture method is always going to be psi. Even things that are supposed to be uncapturable machines only have 200 psi defense which can be beaten by sufficiently powerful blitzgals with lots of commendations.
Replies: >>2095700 >>2095711
Anonymous
7/16/2025, 8:37:43 PM No.2095700
>>2095697
I won't bother unless I'm on gray with sorceress armors. Besides, you'll just crash the game if you try to capture some uncapturables.
Replies: >>2095704 >>2095729
Anonymous
7/16/2025, 8:39:49 PM No.2095704
>>2095700
What is uncapturable anyways? Apparently you can even catch Sectopods alive.
Replies: >>2095710
Anonymous
7/16/2025, 8:42:20 PM No.2095710
>>2095704
Golden saints are the "will crash the game" uncapturable kind.
IIRC blacksun humanists also had something crash happy, maybe the hitlur ghosts or warpsoldiers.
Anonymous
7/16/2025, 8:43:36 PM No.2095711
>>2095697
That said, on JS the enemy stat boosts make it more trouble than it's worth for most of the late game enemies. Better to just rely on brute force/stasis grenade spam.
Replies: >>2095729
Anonymous
7/16/2025, 9:00:09 PM No.2095729
>>2095700
>>2095711
You definitely don't need anywhere near sorceress to capture stargods. Basic max stats in power armor with no buffs can do it, and with commendations you can do it fairly consistently at mid range. Especially if you're using the herder staff with a high (>110) bravery, though this means you need LoS.

Sorceress is for capturing 200 psi defense tanks that are supposed to be mindless and uncapturable. Star gods have 20% of VSkill, 100% of VPower, 33% of morale as psi defense, which works out to 132 psi defense on jack sparrow.
Replies: >>2095992
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 12:06:05 AM No.2095992
>>2095729
Guardians don't really count as Star Gods, though. Capturing them isn't hard (and they have literally 0 skill). Operatives and Coordinators have higher stats and their VDef counts bravery as well.
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 1:19:53 AM No.2096066
>>2095544
>night light toggled on
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 4:18:52 AM No.2096170
hate sewers me
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 4:47:27 AM No.2096180
Untitled
Untitled
md5: b6a7d043009a46a5cd08ca036a69c8a0🔍
Holy shit, this thing is insane.
Replies: >>2096412
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 8:31:37 AM No.2096224
>spartan retaliation hits me after I shoot down multiple military transports
>base cannons make short work of the invaders and I get almost a mil in plasma weaponry for free
nice
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 10:00:46 AM No.2096252
How's the time crunch in XPZ? I'm just wondering what sort of clock I'm on.

XCF was pretty explicit about the two year deadline to get your shit together.
Replies: >>2096323 >>2096456 >>2096561 >>2096659 >>2096981
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 12:39:48 PM No.2096323
>>2096252
>I'm just wondering what sort of clock I'm on.
none if you dint trigger bs
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 2:53:44 PM No.2096412
>>2096180
It better be considering how fucking tedious is the priss thing to get it from.
Replies: >>2096415
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 2:57:18 PM No.2096415
>>2096412
That's not the only way to get FNDs.
Replies: >>2096420
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 3:01:06 PM No.2096420
>>2096415
It's not? I skipped a few versions so I might be not up to date on new shit. So where else you can get this?
Replies: >>2096422
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 3:02:56 PM No.2096422
>>2096420
I don't remember but I already had one before I did the priss complex
You can also manufacture them.
Replies: >>2096428
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 3:04:30 PM No.2096428
>>2096422
Oh that's cool because I don't plan on doing priss ever again. I'm sick and tired of all those multi stage shitholes with hundreds of enemies.
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 3:20:19 PM No.2096456
>>2096252
Well your piratez are about 600 years late for that deadline. You're not on a clock against a current event.

In Piratez you start at the bottom and it only gets easier aside from a few difficulty spikes. But most of challenges are triggered by your activity unless you're playing on max difficulty, which you shouldn't. There are some passive changes to enemy shipping during the first 3 years, but most things happen in reaction to shit you do.

Just try to keep your score positive each month. That's the main pressure mechanism forcing you to push forward. There are no hard time limits.
Most missions don't have a score penalty for skipping them like in Files. Never delay researching !new missions!, they open up new opportunities. Research is a major positive contributor to your score. Enemy shipping activity is a major negative. You start with no way to shoot anything down and very limited radar coverage.
Replies: >>2096595
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 4:16:18 PM No.2096561
>>2096252
>XCF was pretty explicit about the two year deadline to get your shit together.
Even the XCF time crunch is a lie. The invasion ramps up so slowly that the warning at the start of the game doesn't even mean anything.
Replies: >>2096597 >>2096659
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 4:47:45 PM No.2096595
>>2096456
>challenges are triggered by your activity
True but you never know WHAT is going to fuck you up and HOW. The first playthrough is always frosted with delicious confusion.
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 4:49:49 PM No.2096597
>>2096561
Yeah but we don't tell that to the new players. The impending invasion start date sets the tone very nicely.
Replies: >>2096704 >>2096775
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 5:31:43 PM No.2096633
>XCF
Only good BEFORE the invasion happens
Replies: >>2096663
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 5:36:15 PM No.2096636
>>2095462 (OP)
Is there a mod that makes the game not look like 4 blurry pixels vomited on the screen?
Replies: >>2096640 >>2096661
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 5:43:14 PM No.2096640
>>2096636
You probably have some opengl display filter on if it's blurry rather than sharp and pixel-perfect.
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 6:06:15 PM No.2096659
>>2096561
Funny enough I once got an alien base assault the December before the two year mark. Easily defeated though. Then the aliens basically never showed up for several months.

>>2096252
XPZ progression is mostly based on your rank and tech progression. There are some mission weighting changes but its mostly trivially easy month1-tier stuff getting much less priority after a year or so.
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 6:07:44 PM No.2096661
>>2096636
I recommend setting your display filter under video settings to Raw*
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 6:10:46 PM No.2096663
>>2096633
I once thought the same and tried the start early mod to enjoy the early game longer.

It was awful.
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 7:04:14 PM No.2096704
>>2096597
I'm not saying you shouldn't still treat it like a time crunch. I fight like hell to get as many things wrapped up before the invasion anyway.
But like, the only alien that show up early that you can't kill (easily) with conventional weapons is the Gazers, basically. Terror missions can be ignored, and so on. The 1st jan 1999 basically just means ufos start spawning.
Replies: >>2096775
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 7:53:19 PM No.2096749
shadow vision
shadow vision
md5: ed4ca4835197bc62df5cf07566b77a93🔍
Is the last sentence true? And what creatures would that be?
Replies: >>2097231
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 8:20:56 PM No.2096775
>>2096704
>>2096597
If you get a random lucky landing or govt shootdown, fighting sectoids is a massive "oh fuck" if you're used to vanilla.
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 8:24:11 PM No.2096777
screen108
screen108
md5: e99780135029118f1b7527f9fe15bf0a🔍
Did you know you can ctrl right click items and it shows you how many of it you have in all bases at once? I didn't, until I found it out by accident just now.
Replies: >>2096807
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 8:28:47 PM No.2096782
humanists
humanists
md5: 6722da7abfe86b75f660c30527a561a1🔍
best early dakka in xpz?

hunting rifles, silver snake, and hitting people with an axe is working okay, but...
Replies: >>2096787 >>2096817
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 8:34:50 PM No.2096787
>>2096782
messer is okay, I also like the standard SMG
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 9:01:00 PM No.2096807
>>2096777
There's so many undocumented hidden features and shortcuts.
You know how you can quickly load equipment templates 1-10 with 1-0 keys?
I recently noticed you can also load equipment templates 11-20 by doubletapping a number key. Triple for the next ten, etc. No need to ever bring up and scroll the list of equipment templates.

Even the wiki page on hidden features doesn't know this.
https://www.ufopaedia.org/index.php/Hidden_Features_(OpenXcom)
>any above 10 are accessible only via extended menu (enabled by oxceLinks option, or "Extended links" under Options - Advanced - Extended) or F5 (save) and F9 (load) shortcut keys.
Replies: >>2096817 >>2096935
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 9:12:58 PM No.2096817
>>2096782
Day 1:
Revolved + shotguns

Halfway through jan:
SMGs + shotguns

Mar:
Tommy guns (or whatever best SMG you can use)
Heavy Shotguns (or combat shotguns)
Suppressed pistols (godly for high reactions which you should be farming, especially lokks)

later:
Magnums, magnums and more magnums. Seriously you can use the upgraded magnums with smart bullets basically forever vs. anything less than power armor that isn't heavily shielded vs. piercing. For heavy armor you need rocket launchers/mortars/tanks, high powered sniper rifles, melee (poisoned knife is really good early vs, power armor), or lasers/plasma. And do keep shotguns around for zombies.

>>2096807
How do you get templates above 20? The templates window in the inventory screen only goes up to 20.
Replies: >>2096821 >>2096844
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 9:16:04 PM No.2096821
>>2096817
>How do you get templates above 20?
I'm not sure if it's accessible through in-game options menu, but oxceMaxEquipmentLayoutTemplates in your options.cfg.
Replies: >>2096870
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 9:43:01 PM No.2096844
>>2096817
>Tommy guns
hate them
they are too good
Replies: >>2097057
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 9:55:22 PM No.2096851
Is there a way to use consumables with armors that have built-in items in both hand slots?
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 10:28:25 PM No.2096870
>>2096821
Damn, thanks, that's really useful when you have to have multiple loadouts for every race.
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 11:46:11 PM No.2096935
>>2096807
knew about this for craft loadouts but not inventory, thanks
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 1:26:52 AM No.2096981
>>2096252
not many things scale based on ingame time alone. eventually you will face star god and mercenary attacks on your bases, but you need to be completely, utterly inept to be unable to defend against those by the time they can happen
Replies: >>2096994 >>2096999
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 1:51:26 AM No.2096994
>>2096981
>you need to be completely, utterly inept to be unable to defend against those
Literally me.
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 2:02:34 AM No.2096999
>>2096981
You can get weapons capable of beating MERCs and Stargods like 4 months into the game. The issue is not knowing what they are, or not having them on hand when the base attack hits.
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 4:34:35 AM No.2097057
>>2096844
Suppressed pistols with around 110 reactions actually out-DPS tommy guns, even on autofire. Granted you can potentially get a tommy by day 2 but it is a bit RNG while suppressed pistols are guaranteed pretty quickly with bounty tokens so I'd say suppressed pistol is too good.
Replies: >>2097061
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 4:47:21 AM No.2097061
>>2097057
So what do I do with one? Give it to a naked goblin smeared in camo paint and let her pop heads?
Replies: >>2097063
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 5:02:15 AM No.2097063
>>2097061
For gobbos longcoat is what you want, for the camo (nudist technically gives more reactions and same camo but no inventory so it sucks). For gals camo paint is the best early option due to the insane +35 reactions. Though you can also combine it with a shielded armor for both (slayer/shield is great for gobbos on cave missions).

Assuming you're training reactions well (letting people react as much as possible and getting trigger happy) you should get to your stat cap way, way before any other stat is maxed, due to how the stat gain system works.
Replies: >>2097071
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 5:11:44 AM No.2097071
>>2097063
Isn't nightflyer one of their better armors
Replies: >>2097083 >>2097287
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 5:50:31 AM No.2097083
>>2097071
nightflyer is very good, but doesnt give a bonus to reaction. the first real lokk armor that does is nightblade. longcoat is great for training lokks, but i would try to give experienced ones something else.
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 8:54:19 AM No.2097127
lokks are cute

simpe facts
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 2:11:07 PM No.2097231
WHY
WHY
md5: 70d68552ea5fa43e6c5c1f7f684b4737🔍
>>2096749
>10/10 body
>3/10 face
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 3:00:27 PM No.2097247
Any part of the globe in OXCE that doesn't receive much or any traffic at all? I wanna setup a training base in rosigma and not have to worry about defending it
Replies: >>2097250
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 3:01:19 PM No.2097250
>>2097247
antarctica/hawaii are my usuals
Replies: >>2097379
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 3:27:20 PM No.2097286
1726526418778771
1726526418778771
md5: 0aa324a66054a1e3a21fcb33121013ec🔍
>use aurora as a weapon
>it's broadside slot only

>use aurora as a sacrifice
>get one shadow orb

>use aurora as a servant
>get 2nd mistress for 9C

Why is illya so useless?
Replies: >>2097761
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 3:28:27 PM No.2097287
>>2097071
No, nightflyer is pretty trash. Flying is not a big benefit unless you are also tanky due to sniper/spotter (missions without sniper/spotter are already easy if you're in the open).
Replies: >>2097323 >>2097325
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 4:23:29 PM No.2097323
>>2097287
The easiest hard counter to sniper/spotter is always going to be ending your turns in cover. Nightflyer can do that well with its top-tier mobility.
Replies: >>2097328
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 4:25:56 PM No.2097325
>>2097287
nightflyer also gives a lot of TUs and reduced tu cost for running while flying. its one of the most mobile outfits in the game. for lokks who are very good at sniping and badly want to end each turn out of sight it is very good.
Replies: >>2097328
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 4:35:11 PM No.2097328
>>2097323
>>2097325
Lokks are for sitting behind cover or in darkness and sniping (and later on for vehicles). Lokks are never going to be mobile units, if you want a high TU unit you should use an uber or catgirl.
Replies: >>2097330
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 4:46:25 PM No.2097330
>>2097328
>Lokks are for sitting behind cover or in darkness and sniping
Well yould you look at that, things that the nightflyer is great at.
It's also the most mobile armor for quickly relocating and reaching good vantage points.
>if you want a high TU unit you should use an uber or catgirl.
No, you use a syn.
Replies: >>2097472
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 6:11:22 PM No.2097373
questions
questions
md5: 8456a58837952683623aa619f01c703d🔍
>research drill and hull
>combine
>get anomaly

where codex?
Replies: >>2097375 >>2097376
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 6:12:27 PM No.2097375
>>2097373
Wait a month or something.
Replies: >>2097420
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 6:12:36 PM No.2097376
>>2097373
some events will happen with the anomaly, and eventually you will be able to manufacture it for your codex and stuff
Replies: >>2097420
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 6:15:13 PM No.2097379
>>2097250
i'll see if it works
Replies: >>2097381
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 6:16:54 PM No.2097380
file
file
md5: 0ffa07a3983da6cc9ca01ac82c3770bf🔍
I love X-PirateZ so much.

I love the item sprites, I love the music, I love the character sprites, I love the sound effects, I love the bootypedia, I love the rules that bind them together into a game. One second you're listening to music from Astrorock and the next you're blasting your enemies with Doom plasmagun to the tone of Deus Ex death screams. The next day you're discovering more Fate/Stay Night characters in the plot while listening to a remix of legendary F777 newgrounds music. And somehow it all fits together.
X-PirateZ takes so much of the good stuff from gaming and internet culture from the past decades and merges them into something greater than the sum of its parts. Despite all the references and content borrowed from everywhere, its got its own engaging lore.

I wish there were more games like this. Not afraid of copyright trolls, just tapping into all the great stuff to create more goodness.
Replies: >>2097393
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 6:19:59 PM No.2097381
>>2097379
location makes it less likely to be spotted by scouting craft. it does nothing to protect you from scripted crackdowns. the only way to secure a base is to build defenses
Replies: >>2097407
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 6:41:46 PM No.2097393
>>2097380
I am near the end of the game, assembling the conqueror. It took me this long to realize fights have mostly played the exact same since the start, only with more tools. Very few upgrades have felt like so, and most times I got something that might actually be an objective upgrade, it proved not to be. Frankly, not even the better armor felt like they did that much of a difference, since the enemy escalations have pretty much kept on part with my own, or the newer stages usually just invalidate most of my research (Zero-G, Shadowlands, Underwater to a lesser degree). I'd argue only two upgrades that have felt substantial have been flying armors and lasers. Voodoo too but freshness makes it very restrictive. which to be fair is probably a good thing.
What I'm trying to say, is that for as much as the tools I have available have changed, the game has not. I'm honestly pretty sick of the game by now, and I just want it to end.
Replies: >>2097394 >>2097395
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 6:42:47 PM No.2097394
>>2097393
Kinda forgot to put this in there.
TL;DR: Game is too long for it's own good. I feel it should've been over an ingame year or so ago. Too much of it is early game padding, too.
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 6:45:08 PM No.2097395
>>2097393
I've gotten there many times and wish there was more.
Replies: >>2097402
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 6:51:55 PM No.2097402
>>2097395
But that's my beef with this. It's not "more" content, it's the same content over and over. Shoot down a freighter, assault a cargo ship landing, do a terror mission maybe, here's a shadowlands/underwater base. Here's a mission only doable by lokknars or humans or fucking dogs. Here comes another zombie stage, have fun killing doom mooks again. It's the same shit over and over.
I know I can just ignore that shit, but them I'm staring at my screen, ignoring mostly everything as I wait for the days to pass. Fights against marsec or the star gods don't really play any different than fights against other factions. We all just have bigger caliber guns now.
Replies: >>2097411 >>2097414 >>2097490 >>2098652
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 7:06:49 PM No.2097407
>>2097381
i dont know if rosigma has those
rosigma outposts cant build defenses, thats why i want a secluded location
Replies: >>2097414
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 7:16:16 PM No.2097411
>>2097402
Such jaded and cynical reductionism. I'm sorry that you're so miserable but I can't help you with that.
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 7:21:52 PM No.2097414
>>2097407
sorry, im retarded and missed you were asking about rosigma

>>2097402
thats just burnout anon. happens to all of us with a game as long as piratez. i also hit points where it feels like im doing nothing but waiting for the next big thing to spawn
Replies: >>2097416
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 7:23:48 PM No.2097416
>>2097414
Play something else for a few months then start a new run. Worked for me.
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 7:34:18 PM No.2097420
>>2097376
>>2097375
i manufactured a tranquil anomaly

no codex
Replies: >>2097426
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 7:40:13 PM No.2097426
shrug
shrug
md5: 70d7f63116a799d0d934f13f40e110bc🔍
>>2097420
>he didn't wait
mfw
Replies: >>2097439
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 8:18:19 PM No.2097439
>>2097426
yeah i don't get what i'm supposed to be doing
Replies: >>2097440
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 8:19:02 PM No.2097440
>>2097439
wait. some events will happen and eventually you will be able to do something with the anomaly
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 8:21:27 PM No.2097444
>Guns of the Patriots
Man, fuck this. I'm out.
Replies: >>2097447 >>2097450
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 8:24:28 PM No.2097447
>>2097444
>blow up the missile warehouse
>leave
>refuse to elaborate
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 8:28:37 PM No.2097450
>>2097444
Just shoot the warehouse. I love getting 11+ kills in a single shot. Good for commendations too.
Replies: >>2097624
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 8:36:55 PM No.2097461
Has anyone here playd Piratez without soldier diaries?

It would be a different experience without the massive stat gains that your A-team accumulates from commendations. Maybe less fun. But at least your saves would be 90% smaller.
Replies: >>2097474 >>2097475 >>2097577
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 8:52:48 PM No.2097472
>>2097330
>Well yould you look at that, things that the nightflyer is great at.

No, it's trash. Slayer has better armor, especially with a shield, and is earlier in the tech tree. Nightblade gives a huge reaction bonus for more damage and enough camo to be practically invisible in night while being roughly at the same place (also built in poisoned dagger and TU leech means you can handle any kind of powered armor).
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 8:55:12 PM No.2097474
>>2097461
Why does save size concern you?

It would be a huge nerf, might actually make the late game feel balanced. It's not really an A-team thing either, B-teamers start to be noticeably better after a few dozen missions.
Replies: >>2097479
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 8:57:28 PM No.2097475
>>2097461
I remember long enough ago condemnations didn't give stats they were just there just cosmetic medals given to your soldiers. And it honestly should've stayed that way, maybe there should be a small bonus at level 10 but not this mess that we have now.
Replies: >>2097701
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 9:04:35 PM No.2097479
>>2097474
Now only save size but soldier diaries' effect in general.
It's what makes everything slower. I/O is much faster now with the new yaml serializer but there's still noticeable lag spikes whenever commendations get recalculated.
Replies: >>2097701
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 9:21:31 PM No.2097490
>>2097402
You're right. There's lots of great things about Piratez, but it badly needs an editor, both to cut out redundant content (Coming Soon: Even More Fucking Necroplanes!), and also to curb Dioxine's worse tendencies, particularly his extreme reluctance to actually allow the player to feel powerful (Finally unlocked the best armor? You won't actually want to use it to make 'normal' missions faster/easier, because of the needlessly increased freshness drain!).
Replies: >>2097497
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 9:32:09 PM No.2097497
Mr. Dio's Wild Ride
Mr. Dio's Wild Ride
md5: 981ef1ae3ead7b1027c32cbfdf250f19🔍
>>2097490
>cut out redundant content (Coming Soon: Even More Fucking Necroplanes!)
Nah, he's gonna lengthen the lowtek earlygame until they are necessary.

...While at the same time planning to expand the lategame until there's content all the way to outer solar system.
Huh, what, did you think Piratez stops at Mars?
Haha, no! There are already unimplemented ranks for conquering Jupiter and defeating the shadow overlords.
Replies: >>2097504 >>2097589 >>2102772
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 9:41:08 PM No.2097504
rank 15
rank 15
md5: 86df04d0e9eb4f459f18e6e18a961922🔍
>>2097497
>conquering Jupiter
Pic related, I'm not kidding.

Aaaand in case you didn't know, there's already multiple Mars missions. Not just the endgame.
Plus there's like 5 different alternate endings in various stages of completion. Not just the original conqueror route.
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 10:09:54 PM No.2097524
What is even there to do after killing the Brain on Mars? Why is there still an invasion without the Brain even?
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 10:47:58 PM No.2097561
>bottlenecks within bottlenecks
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 11:04:13 PM No.2097577
>>2097461
Could be interest, but I feel like that would hamper a lot of the inherent fun of the game. It's super powered mutants+other variant mutants punching up vs established hegemonies. Kinda kills the feel when a guild leader just innately has comparable stats to your gals, and he isn't threat simply because he's blinged out in power armor and plasma while you're beating him over the head with a sledgegammer.
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 11:24:14 PM No.2097589
>>2097497
That's pretty awesome.
Replies: >>2097596
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 11:34:30 PM No.2097596
>>2097589
It is and I really dig what's Dio's done with the original XCOM in Piratez canon.
If you have played the current Zander route you already have an idea what the upcoming outer solar system missions relate to.
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 12:19:16 AM No.2097624
>>2097450
>Master of the Collateral Damage
It's a fun mission, once you stop trying to complete the objective.
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 4:08:06 AM No.2097701
>>2097479
What are you running on? Everything is instant for me.

>>2097475
I think its generally fine, it sets an expected cap that you can train soldiers up to quickly in a few missions and then lets you slowly and with diminishing returns improve the soldiers over time. This makes sure that losses still hurt but don't kneecap you.
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 4:59:27 AM No.2097713
ugggh
how do you cope with sectopods?
any practical ways of disrupting their reactions?
Replies: >>2097715
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 5:06:44 AM No.2097715
>>2097713
arced attacks so you don't have to stand on their los? I can usually shoot them a bit and not get a reaction. I just try to keep around 60 tus left.
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 7:54:56 AM No.2097761
>>2097286
weaponized child.....
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 9:41:11 AM No.2097797
6ef447692edfec11fcaa49917c46d373393c3e50775b80f9b3da5ba51ad51853
>spent all this time making slaves, workers, maids
>thought for some bizarre reason they gave free $$$
>all they do is give storage space
>and workers cost money

well fuck me, should have read the booty
Replies: >>2097823
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 11:15:05 AM No.2097823
>>2097797
Slaves do provide cash, they just do it through the medium of a negative upkeep, and it's a fairly minimal amount. Workers cost you money though, yeah. I'd not get those unless I really need the storage immediately and can't get it by shipping slaves around.
Replies: >>2097827
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 11:21:51 AM No.2097827
>>2097823
I've been thinking recently that slaves maybe a waste of time, it just takes so many clicks and micromanagement to get these while you can hire hundreds of workers in seconds. I was thinking about making a pure storage base with gold codex and its infinite glamour, hire like a million workers and just push contraband for possibly enormous profits?
I do believe this strategy was somewhat nerfed but maybe it still has potential.
Replies: >>2097884
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 1:50:09 PM No.2097879
In terms of income slaves are close to worthless and generally take a year or multiple years to pay back the cost of not selling them immediately + the runt time for making slave out of them. So they are mostly only useful for storage. What slaves do get you is the items for robbing them as well as glamour, so they'll help you farm glamour if you need it.

Workers are interesting now. They are worthless to have around, but the projects that convert prisoners to workers also now gives cultural wealth which can be easily converted into land deeds which are even better at creating your storage now. So making workers and immediately getting rid of them might be optimal now
Replies: >>2097884
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 1:58:30 PM No.2097884
>>2097827
The usual midgame strat of mass farming slaves is no longer necessary due to early land deeds.

>>2097879
>the projects that convert prisoners to workers also now gives cultural wealth
First they censor mutant porn and now they make slavery a bad choice.
I fear for the soul of Piratez.
Replies: >>2097978
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 4:49:56 PM No.2097978
>>2097884
Wdym slaves are still good, you can just release them.
It used to be you could sacrifice slaves for demonic essence but now you can only sacrifice lost souls sadly.
Replies: >>2098179
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 11:00:04 PM No.2098179
>>2097978
It used to be that slaves were a necessary evil for storage space while you were still a bumbling band of clueless horny retards. Now you can get directly into land ownership and acquire cultural wealth way early, before you even stop targeting civilian shippings. It's a tonal shift that doesn't quite match the level of sophistication of your operation at that point.

But gameplay-wise, I'm just happy to have land deeds earlier. Hoarding cultural wealth until slave emancipation was annoying.
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 11:09:06 PM No.2098185
How do I craft photonic weapons? I researched them, but I don't see the option on my manufacturing list, even as a missing faculties tag.
Replies: >>2098196
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 11:16:52 PM No.2098196
>>2098185
You don't.
Replies: >>2098197
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 11:17:47 PM No.2098197
>>2098196
Oh, that fucking sucks. What's even the point then?
Replies: >>2098199 >>2098211
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 11:19:42 PM No.2098199
>>2098197
The point is you getting fucked by enemies wielding them.
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 11:29:44 PM No.2098211
>>2098197
You can't mass produce them but you can use whatever you find. In Piratez you also have to unlock star god weapons before they're usable. They're more common in Files.
Anonymous
7/20/2025, 2:08:06 AM No.2098360
I can't stay interested in Files and I hate that. The early game just feels weird
Replies: >>2098372 >>2098615
Anonymous
7/20/2025, 2:39:31 AM No.2098372
>>2098360
what seems to be the problem?
also if you can't enjoy files early and mid then the mod just isn't for you.
the charm dies real bad when the invasion begins
Replies: >>2098440 >>2098578
Anonymous
7/20/2025, 6:40:24 AM No.2098440
>>2098372
Yeah, for real. The alien invasion is just a slog in XCF with how you need to capture like 50 engineers or something to unlock the tech tree. There might be 0, might be 1 on a ship and they might die in the shootdown so its a whole lot of fuck yous to get through.
Replies: >>2098615
Anonymous
7/20/2025, 1:00:24 PM No.2098578
>>2098372
This, you play XCF for that X-Files and conspiracy vibes
Anonymous
7/20/2025, 2:08:34 PM No.2098615
>>2098360
The early game is the most fun part. You start with two shitty sub-vanilla agents (or an agent and a dog) in a rented car. Six months down the line, you're raiding paramilitary compounds full of roided-out slavs with a helicopter. Another six months later, you're using miniguns to clearcut forests and demolish the walls of cult outposts.

>>2098440
What's ironic is that capturing enemies is so much more important in XCF than XPZ, yet it's so much more agonizingly difficult. Clearing Cydonia with the BFG felt liberating though.
Anonymous
7/20/2025, 3:00:31 PM No.2098652
>>2097402
This is a flaw of a lot of tactical games. It's difficult to make interesting enemies and set up interesting tactical situations. Especially late game where there's only so many ways to make an enemy powerful and you have set up a perfect well-practiced team capable of taking on anybody with the same tactics. You can only get that feeling of variety in the early game when there are missing tactical options on both sides. Personally, the fun of X-com and its mods comes from the power shifts and new options with new weaponry and enemies. Once you've played these games once you've seen everything there is to offer. I guess that's why the codexes exist in the first place. And of course there's the "fill the map with a billion chaff" problem.
Replies: >>2098689
Anonymous
7/20/2025, 3:46:34 PM No.2098689
>>2098652
And yet, when you think of it you realize piratez does a better job at it than basically anything else on the market...

It's amazing how far we've come from vanilla xcom despite staying very close and faithful to it mechanically. It was a much simpler game, never designed for the longevity of megamod campaigns.

Stuff like expanded damage types, shield scripts, starting conditions and commendation bonuses don't change the feel of the core gameplay much but largely eliminate the problem of getting into dull grind where you fall into one trick and never change. It's insane how much variety is wrung out of vanilla-faithful gameplay with different enemy, soldier and mission types. And even when you have something that Just Works(tm) the mechanics incentivize you to change things up, to improve your soldiers' stats with new commendations if for no other reason.

And if you ever get tired of how vanilla's core tactical gameplay feels, you can get a completely different experience from the same rules and the same content with Brutal OXCE.

It's just amazing what's been done with oldcom. Such a good game. Gaming devolving from a nerd hobby into mainstream normalfag slop was a tragedy. 99% of modern games in any genre are just flashy crap that can't hold anyone's attention for more than hours and feel hopelessly outdated in a few years. Meanwhile oldcom is going stronger than ever after decades. Timeless masterpiece.

Bu that's just the tactical side. I feel that OXCE still has a ton of untapped future potential on the strategy side.
Anonymous
7/20/2025, 9:39:50 PM No.2098880
ap
ap
md5: 30cfd829d29670b96223f6d7f4f8778a🔍
cheering when a shitass mission gives you something nice
Anonymous
7/20/2025, 11:06:26 PM No.2098980
Untitled
Untitled
md5: b8ce6af6a171347d88ba45cdb4d12b48🔍
Excuse me? Why the fuck do I need specific fighter jets to shoot down this one plane?
Replies: >>2098992
Anonymous
7/20/2025, 11:21:59 PM No.2098992
>>2098980
Honorabru 1v1 combat only or Golden Prince is going to swallow your soul.
...That WAS a Dread Fighter, right?
Replies: >>2099012
Anonymous
7/20/2025, 11:40:56 PM No.2099012
>>2098992
Yeah, but I was trying to shoot it down, not actually do the mission. Now I have to deal with this overly selective shit for dog fights as well?
Replies: >>2099015
Anonymous
7/20/2025, 11:43:50 PM No.2099015
>>2099012
Maybe limiting the crash site mission also limits interception option? UFOs are not normally not subject to weird starting conditions.
And I had no idea it works like that since most interceptors are one-seaters anyways.
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 8:09:11 AM No.2099227
mod.io
mod.io
md5: 78e349c7ce015ed285040c5d2d00bc0c🔍
Where/when did xcf disappear?
Replies: >>2099254 >>2099436 >>2099454 >>2099585
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 9:40:56 AM No.2099254
>>2099227
a few years ago

troons sperged out about dio being a chud
Replies: >>2099579
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 1:53:31 PM No.2099373
screen109
screen109
md5: 72f3d703689cd4e2d2fb34a3ab4c12ed🔍
What a lovely young lady. Any kraut here can translate her last name?
Replies: >>2099425
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 3:37:19 PM No.2099425
>>2099373
Might be some janky fantasy German. Literal translation is War-young-girl. I guess it's supposed to be War-virgin or maiden.
Replies: >>2099461 >>2100133
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 4:15:28 PM No.2099436
>>2099227
More puzzling question: Why is Dio autistic about .rar?

Dogshit archive format for dogshit nagware archiver.
Both lost any raison d'être when 7zip was created.
Replies: >>2099440 >>2099579
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 4:28:17 PM No.2099440
>>2099436
Winrar WINRAR Winrar… it really whips the llamas ass
Replies: >>2099446
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 4:32:32 PM No.2099446
>>2099440
>it really whips the llamas ass
Unlike winrar, winamp continues to be relevant in 2025 with no replacement in sight.
There are plugins for it that no other music player has, such as playback for forgotten retro game audio formats and the best DSP ever.
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 4:39:40 PM No.2099454
>>2099227
xcf is still there for me ? did you mean xpz ?
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 4:52:12 PM No.2099461
>>2099425
Whoever came up with the name probably just tried to avoid referencing Hitler Youth's Jungmädel (because gnomes aren't humanists) while evoking a similar idea.
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 7:20:57 PM No.2099579
>>2099254
>>2099436
retards who can't read
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 7:32:02 PM No.2099585
still there
still there
md5: 33f3c3582a36077d1ec28ef7ea336ab1🔍
>>2099227
XCF didn't disappear, so anon probably meant XPZ.
Replies: >>2099729
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 7:39:16 PM No.2099594
Isn't it funny how many times XPZ was attacked? Discord banned, removed from a website because some tranny faggot got upset but the end result is still clear.
XPZ alone is bigger than entire xcom modding community combined, it's just that much better.
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 7:55:27 PM No.2099614
>Dioxines PC is dead
its over pirate bros..
Replies: >>2099616 >>2099617 >>2100117
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 7:57:52 PM No.2099616
>>2099614
Happens to all of us. Did he keep backups?
Replies: >>2099623
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 7:57:57 PM No.2099617
dio-2025-07-21-20-56-39
dio-2025-07-21-20-56-39
md5: f203c432fa356bc0819f32e7b0f2fea6🔍
>>2099614
I was just about to post this
Replies: >>2099624 >>2099632
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 7:59:55 PM No.2099623
>>2099616
>backups?
Doesn't matter that much since every copy of piratez out there is the full source.
Worst case is losing whatever changes were made after N13. Plus the time and effort of setting up your development environment again.
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 8:00:20 PM No.2099624
>>2099617
Just how fucking poor is dioxine that PC replacement is breaking his bank?
Replies: >>2099627 >>2099630 >>2099633 >>2099859 >>2100166
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 8:01:57 PM No.2099627
winged hussar
winged hussar
md5: 14004d4e7c46427b4c7aa4fe3eee61cf🔍
>>2099624
He's Polish
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 8:02:57 PM No.2099630
>>2099624
NEET life outside of the west isn't all that prosperous
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 8:04:20 PM No.2099632
>>2099617
So I might as well give him some buckaroos since I've been playing this mod for a few years now. Is that paypal info in openxcom forums still valid or is there some other site with donation button or some shit?
Just don't tell me to join some fucking discord.
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 8:04:33 PM No.2099633
>>2099624
Never in history have the greatest artists been rich.
Besides, he probably wants the latest and greatest overpriced GPU. Essential for developing a mod for a 320x200x8 game from 1994, right?
Replies: >>2099647 >>2099649
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 8:12:56 PM No.2099647
>>2099633
>not using a Quadro A600 and a latest gen Threadripper to mod X-Com
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 8:14:04 PM No.2099649
>>2099633
He needs to have like 8 screens around him all running GPU benchmarks to get into the zone.
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 9:40:50 PM No.2099729
>>2099585
i don't remeber xpz ever being on modio and i've been playing it since 2021
Replies: >>2099735
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 9:45:32 PM No.2099735
>>2099729
It's still there. https://mod.io/g/openxcom/m/x-piratez
He just stopped updating it in 2020 when mod.io dropped his precious rar support.
Replies: >>2099737
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 9:50:42 PM No.2099737
>>2099735
>rar
really? isnt this like the worst file compression method?
Replies: >>2099739
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 9:54:20 PM No.2099739
>>2099737
I don't really know what's going on. But consider the following.

>Mods.io no longer supports my upload format, so there will be no more updates in foreseeable future.
t. Dioxine

And x-piratez ships in a .rar archive, sooo
Replies: >>2099768
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 10:28:19 PM No.2099768
>>2099739
Maybe when he gets his new computer he''ll update to proper zip standards.
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 10:46:19 PM No.2099780
cultivate virtue
cultivate virtue
md5: 0822170eb5d3bec0dd4168f24f48cf87🔍
i am going to kill this motherfucker
Replies: >>2099909 >>2100527
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 12:08:56 AM No.2099846
oi
oi
md5: 9d614d3ef93a9eba5e7ae573a79c9d21🔍
why do strix release those GIANT FUCKING FART CLOUDS
Replies: >>2099855 >>2099861 >>2099923
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 12:20:25 AM No.2099855
1727848499624228
1727848499624228
md5: f1c425533c973adb5645333fd4491f76🔍
>>2099846
Just wait till you get to the mission that's a large open cave full of strixes
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 12:21:53 AM No.2099859
remember to donate to dioxine's new cpu today

>>2099624
a country ravaged by war
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 12:22:41 AM No.2099861
>>2099846
They and the bats make a fun reaction fire training mission into a tense assassination mission.
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 12:32:54 AM No.2099872
>oh it's just a bat
>two bats actually
>OH G-
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 1:24:40 AM No.2099909
>>2099780
You're going to kill Dio with that? Is he secretly allergic to money? Not sure I follow your plan but godspeed.
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 1:39:32 AM No.2099923
>>2099846
my favorite part is when their reaction fire stops your movement but they don't actually shoot so it looks like your unit had a schizo moment
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 7:09:06 AM No.2100096
reticulan path for early craft and craft weapons seemed like a good idea until i realized how many brainer days the take me to your dealer roulette required
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 8:00:06 AM No.2100117
illyasviel von einzbern_pirate
illyasviel von einzbern_pirate
md5: c39a62d30f76067ff17f232a942f4eb3🔍
>>2099614
Finally, I can do a full run without an update happening midway.
Replies: >>2100121
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 8:04:29 AM No.2100121
>>2100117
>dio gets a lot of donations from concerned fans
>buys a new monster pc
>turns out his productivity was constrained by his old slow pc
>no more time to complete a run between updates
>ever again
>by 2030 a piratez campaign takes minimum 2000 hours with all the new content
Replies: >>2100122 >>2100322
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 8:06:46 AM No.2100122
>>2100121
>2000 hours per run
>still no lokk/gnome route
Replies: >>2100272 >>2100872
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 8:39:56 AM No.2100133
>>2099425
Kriegs is in gen. so it should be youth of war or war-youth. The whole phrase could be either war-youth maiden or junior maiden of war depending on with word jung is more attached to.
Replies: >>2100161
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 11:15:14 AM No.2100161
>>2100133
You're probably right. Although German is my first language, I got pretty lazy with the grammar down the line.
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 11:23:11 AM No.2100166
>>2099624
he rely on donations to buy food, otherwise he do trash bin jumping
Replies: >>2100443
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 2:38:14 PM No.2100272
>>2100122
>new route
>it's ogre
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 3:20:39 PM No.2100322
>>2100121
>2026 release of XPZ
>half of the tech tree is devoted to new prop planes
Replies: >>2100390 >>2100453
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 4:27:38 PM No.2100390
1750892663835436
1750892663835436
md5: ee63cc8141c88e1f726a6566553aed50🔍
>>2100322
>all bases now have a sub-sewer layer the regular sewer
>base-wide ventilation duct layer added to prevent pathing issues
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 5:09:45 PM No.2100443
>>2100166
is he secretly gypsy?
Replies: >>2100872
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 5:19:56 PM No.2100453
>>2100322
>XPZ 2027
>early game expanded
>for the umpteenth time
>necroplanes are now 2604 tech
Replies: >>2100467
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 5:28:30 PM No.2100467
>>2100453
I prefer it to the alternative, where he works solely on engame content that I will never see.
Replies: >>2100480
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 5:37:30 PM No.2100480
>>2100467
>engame content that I will never see
That's a shame, you really should play a run through to the end.
The intertwined lategame Dr. X / Red Mage / Aurora questlines are some of the best piratez content. But also some of the worst content; mutually exclusive ?choices? late in the game and with far-reaching unforeseen consequences.
Replies: >>2100498 >>2100508
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 5:46:06 PM No.2100498
>>2100480
nah
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 5:56:29 PM No.2100508
>>2100480
>far-reaching unforeseen consequences
/cbt/
Replies: >>2100520
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 6:04:58 PM No.2100520
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
md5: b16040e715eec435c8a7d30214247d9f🔍
>>2100508
More like
>the ?obvious choice? actually leads nowhere
>the ?joke option? goes to the main questline
>the ?innocuous choice? unexpectedly locks you out of something else 2 years later because it conflicts with the way a butterfly flapped its wings 3 years ago
>all of them are forever WIP
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 6:13:09 PM No.2100527
>>2099780
>putting terror in the transaction so both you and him get an investigation, evil
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 7:42:49 PM No.2100613
>my first crackdown

thanks i hated it
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 8:50:45 PM No.2100663
What can I use a jetbike for?
Replies: >>2100666 >>2100667 >>2100674 >>2100680 >>2100918
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 8:53:38 PM No.2100666
>>2100663
Never used them. By the time I cam build them enemies are running laser/gauss/plasma guns that rape them as soon as they disembark.
Replies: >>2100671
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 8:55:42 PM No.2100667
>>2100663
When you're on no codex and you got no other options it's neat.
Replies: >>2100671
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 9:00:19 PM No.2100671
bike
bike
md5: 8b2c004d4778a17e49402d1a6b07c624🔍
>>2100666
>>2100667
I mean this thing. It costs 2mil, but I have the money to blow.
Replies: >>2100681
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 9:02:27 PM No.2100674
>>2100663
It's fast, sturdier than a piranha, and doesn't require a codex. Ideal if you are on no codex run
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 9:06:51 PM No.2100680
>>2100663
Shark? It's the first high-speed interceptor you get. It can easily catch up to fighters, good for score and gauss cannon parts. Easier to use for that purpose than slower codex craft, but not good for much beyond that.
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 9:07:11 PM No.2100681
>>2100671
Oh, misunderstood then. Yeah I've used them. If rng screws you over or like others said no codex run, it will carry your airgame for a while.
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 1:21:25 AM No.2100872
>>2100443
garden variety of kurwa

>>2100122
i was thinking about what to do for a lokk path. my ideas so far:
>requires recruit lokks
>premise is increased cooperation with the lokknarr community. they will share more of their knowledge and contacts in exchange for increased protection
>immediate benefit will be some tech and buyable lokk militia armor
>tech to pledge to protect lokks in exchange for significant research, like shadowmasters
>drawback is additional missions to protect lokk villages will spawn, with very large score penalties for ignoring
>additional rolls for underground missions to spawn, updating as more are unlocked, namely demon god shrines
new transformations for lokks: one for generic high rank, and three mutually exclusive for specializing lokks more as fighters, assassins, or shamans
needs some filling out
Replies: >>2100901 >>2101447
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 2:09:03 AM No.2100901
>>2100872
>get worse penalty for getting lokks killed, but you get access to more powerful lokks, with higher base stats and higher stat caps
>more flying armors and more armors that defeat NV (at the cost of freshness?)
>more lokk voodoo
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 2:30:08 AM No.2100917
Cave missions are so shit right now. They are a pain in the ass to do and virtually never even close to challenging. Most of them should be deleted in favor of big underground areas like in the zombie witch quest.
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 2:32:12 AM No.2100918
>>2100663
You put a max reactions lokk and dodger augment and its unhittable by around 80% of enemy crafts. You'll need more than one (or other craft) to have enough firepower to take down heavier targets though, and things that can hit it will kill it in 2-3 shots.

It's worth always having at least one around just to quickly cover the world and take down anything easy. Dodging shots rather than tanking them means you never get stuck repairing for weeks, so you have a high uptime.
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 8:43:28 AM No.2101052
cbt
cbt
md5: d56f60ad2fc9a0a05b791f62578c3c77🔍
>Ghoul Town
Replies: >>2101061
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 9:04:56 AM No.2101061
>>2101052
Why the fuck did dio lock that mission behind ghoul research? You can only find them in one terror mission with armored car and get research from captured smoothie, who are rare as fuck. Rushing to smokey is worthless now since you won't unlock this mission until at least year 2, unless you roll the rng correctly. At least give some low level ghoul mission for fuck sakes.
Replies: >>2101066 >>2101086
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 9:21:26 AM No.2101066
>>2101061
playing n13 right now, and ghouls spawn on most of the missions/craft that ratmen do

my personal lore is that they became friends
Replies: >>2101069 >>2101353
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 9:25:07 AM No.2101069
>>2101066
Same and I'm end of december and never seen any.
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 10:08:35 AM No.2101086
>>2101061
Huh, that explains why I've never gotten that mission. Guess it's time to assault a sandcrawler (if one ever spawns)
Replies: >>2101087
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 10:13:11 AM No.2101087
>>2101086
Pretty sure they stop spawning after a several months. How the fuck am I supposed to even shoot it down early game with nerfed to hell little bird with hmg at best?
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 4:05:45 PM No.2101273
>cats nerfed AGAIN
>pilot suits no longer give pilot bonuses for some dimb reason
So what's the fucking point of choosing the cat path now? You used to get earlier puma twins, now they are removed from the game. You used to get more/earlier ace pilot events, now their benefit is removed from the game.
You get the same shit scraps of content for cats on every non-cat path anyway. THere's nothing unique left to the path.
Replies: >>2101282 >>2101343 >>2102255
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 4:17:06 PM No.2101282
>>2101273
What about early golden guns, nekomimi marksman laser or firefox? Do these count for nothing?
Replies: >>2101293
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 4:28:50 PM No.2101293
>>2101282
What "early" golden guns? They are already irrelevant past the first 9 months. By the time you can buy them, you don't need them. You usually unlock the ability to manufacture them at around the same time as the trade deal anyway.
Marksman laser is utter trash. Firefox is too expensive to use on non-baby difficulties, and it has dogshit battlescape model.
All other paths get something that stays relevant in the late game, cats don't, because that something used to be ace pilot suits.
Replies: >>2101364
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 4:57:38 PM No.2101317
Is there a way to type non-keyboard characters in-game? Like the plus-minus symbol, trademark symbol, etc. Graphical fonts have a bunch of these unicode symbols that I want to use for marking soldiers. Save editing works, and the symbols display correctly, but it gets very tedious for large modpacks.
Replies: >>2101357
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 5:20:20 PM No.2101343
>>2101273
Don't forget the kitty fighter got its weapon raped to oblivion.
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 5:34:54 PM No.2101353
>>2101066
I'm gonna one-up your personal lore: a ghoul is just 3 ratmen in a suit.
The bootypedia reports on their anatomy? That's just brainers having a laugh.
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 5:47:05 PM No.2101357
>>2101317
Can't you input them in oxce with the standard keystrokes that are used to input them anywhere else?
Replies: >>2101369
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 5:54:10 PM No.2101364
>>2101293
>All other paths get something that stays relevant in the late game
They do? I'm pretty sure most of them give nothing or next to nothing by the end game. I know bugeyes get some significant equipment and transformations but that's because bugeyes are dogshit units normally.

Golden SMG is one of the better SMGs available and can cope-assist at wearing down armor. Golden Chaingun is also really good. The lower RoF ones are kinda bad and should scale better since they shoot less.

Generally agree that cats were overnerfed and should get some special transformations or something for their path. And there should be some reason to use them as pilots rather than Lokks which absolutely dominate right now, which makes no sense as they are underground specialists and don't even have ships.
Replies: >>2101374 >>2101397
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 5:59:02 PM No.2101369
>>2101357
Alt+numpad doesn't work.
Ctrl+V doesn't work.
Is there anything else?
Replies: >>2101379
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 6:03:10 PM No.2101374
>>2101364
>Golden SMG is one of the better SMGs available
My guy, are you for real? Why would I ever use them over ninja SMGs, let alone anything better?
Besides, what's the point of using SMGs at all? Cats can lift most good rifle-type weapons, including smart cannons. If you want streetfighter commendations, pistols are far easier.
Replies: >>2101473
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 6:11:09 PM No.2101379
>>2101369
>Alt+numpad doesn't work.
Then you're SOL.
Weird though. That works almost anywhere. Makes you wonder how OXC input handling was programmed.
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 6:46:43 PM No.2101397
>>2101364
>>All other paths get something that stays relevant in the late game
>They do?
NTA but let me think...

Gals: astrocaster, ravenclaw (!green) or designer beauty (green)
SS: private hospital, no govt crackdowns
cats: firefox, claw
peasants: harvester, revolution hq
Hybrids: couple of ufos and tons of bugeye transformations but I haven't played it

That's all the major path-unique(?) content I can think of.
Truly, gals ARE superior because they get heavy metal. \,,/
And it's a bit silly that the best peasant voodoo armor is locked behind gal path, now that peasants have a path of their own.
Replies: >>2101409
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 6:55:50 PM No.2101409
>>2101397
Male soldier route also gets pureblood soldiers, sky knight armor, and seven heroes (no codex route). Think tank on gray too, but I think peasants can also get that
Replies: >>2101423
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 7:05:42 PM No.2101423
>>2101409
>sky knight armor
I remember seeing that in the tech tree, it was on gudrun knight route.
Replies: >>2101444
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 7:20:04 PM No.2101444
>>2101423
Yep, it basically makes your SS/heroes into discount black knights
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 7:24:13 PM No.2101447
>>2100872
>new transformations for lokks: one for generic high rank, and three mutually exclusive for specializing lokks more as fighters, assassins, or shamans
>drawback is additional missions to protect lokk villages will spawn, with very large score penalties for ignoring
Really like these two in particular.
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 8:03:00 PM No.2101473
>>2101374
Let's see, on my soldiers:

Kustom SMG: 58 damage, 30% TUs for 50% Acc x3 snap shot 11 range
Golden SMG: 54 damage, 30% TUs for 70% Acc x3 snap shot 15 range

So at 15 range you'd gonna have around 70% Acc rather than 40% which is almost twice as much damage.

Then Golden SMG has a 6x autoshot which is still more accurate than the kustom SMG and will deal more than twice as much damage.

Also Kustom SMGs are hard to find if you aren't collecting them since Feb due to jack sparrow difficulty starting the fight vs them early.

>Besides, what's the point of using SMGs at all? Cats can lift most good rifle-type weapons, including smart cannons.
Smart Cannons are pretty research intensive.
Replies: >>2101486
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 8:09:12 PM No.2101478
just put the lift wherever
just put the lift wherever
md5: b73187debad10939d8a7b66de2cea367🔍
>neat, purposeful, defensible bases
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 8:18:41 PM No.2101486
>>2101473
>Golden SMG: 54 damage
It's 23 + 10% bravery + 10% reactions. Do your catgirls have 210 reactions? No, they don't.
>70% Acc rather than 40%
Golden SMG has the stupid 65%+35 accuracy formula, so it becomes bad for highly trained soldiers. And badly trained soldiers don't have the stats for damage to be reasonable. Kustom SMG at least has 100% stat accuraccy scaling, even though it needs two stats.
>Smart Cannons are pretty research intensive
Well, yeah, they are the best ballistic weapon in the game. Replace with custom sniper, asuka, etc, etc. The point is, SMGs are bad as a class to begin with.
Replies: >>2101499 >>2101505 >>2102255
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 8:27:22 PM No.2101492
1606242572681
1606242572681
md5: acb404e7ad8a11305edb69d9ba5b4475🔍
>get new version of ROSIGMA
>totally lost even further
Where do I even start now?
Replies: >>2101498
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 8:33:10 PM No.2101498
>>2101492
Depends on what you're going to play.
Replies: >>2101503
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 8:33:36 PM No.2101499
>>2101486
>It's 23 + 10% bravery + 10% reactions. Do your catgirls have 210 reactions? No, they don't.
120 BRA/195 REA

>Well, yeah, they are the best ballistic weapon in the game. Replace with custom sniper, asuka, etc, etc. The point is, SMGs are bad as a class to begin with.

They are unable to reliably pierce power armor and are weaker DPS vs. lower armor enemies.
Replies: >>2101508
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 8:39:11 PM No.2101503
>>2101498
I was considering the Imperial Guard again, playing as spess marines just had me almost fist fighting demons real quick
Replies: >>2101513
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 8:39:28 PM No.2101505
why
why
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>>2101486
>Do your catgirls have 210 reactions? No, they don't.
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 8:42:50 PM No.2101508
>>2101499
>195 REA
Big doubt, but also congratulations. You can be doing 88 damage with 50-200% rolls and 125% hp multiplier with a smart magnum instead.
Using a gun that can't reliably onetap personal armor at the stage of the game where you have 200 reaction soldiers is memery.
Replies: >>2101526 >>2101637
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 8:44:43 PM No.2101513
>>2101503
Get Sentinels with Multilazors or Lascannon. Use them to force reaction fire, and run your dudes behind it.
Replies: >>2101624
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 8:55:49 PM No.2101526
>>2101508
NTA but the smart magnum is just silly.
Higher snap range than most rifles and sniper rifle damage calculation on a pistol. Even the commando rifle doesn't have 50-200% roll for some "balance" reason.

Also all pistols have way too high range, they should be halved to begin with.
Replies: >>2101528
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 8:58:46 PM No.2101528
>>2101526
>Even the commando rifle doesn't have 50-200% roll for some "balance" reason
The 50-200% roll is specifically for smart weapons, they have a shared research requirement for it.
Replies: >>2101536 >>2101611
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 9:01:21 PM No.2101536
>>2101528
And sniper rifles.
t. snipin summary
Replies: >>2101544
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 9:07:29 PM No.2101544
>>2101536
True, but the commando rifle isn't a sniper weapon either. It doesn't use the sniper rifle accuracy formula.
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 9:28:10 PM No.2101611
>>2101528
I don't remember seeing any fluff text indicating that 50-200% roll is an intended characteristic of smart weapons, and it literally isn't on majority of them. (Smart shotgun, smart rifle, smart GL, smart RPG)
Replies: >>2101643
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 9:32:00 PM No.2101624
>>2101513
the multilaser sentinel sucks donkey balls compared to the lascannon one. don't even bother.
Replies: >>2101720
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 9:36:46 PM No.2101637
>>2101508
Yeah, Smart Magnum is OP, what's new? Magnums are obtained like 4 months in and are better than 90% of weapons until you have to deal with shields or power armor. At least SMGs offer similarly high damage and have a big autofire option for when you're afraid of rolling a low magnum hit and getting reactioned. You should be able to one tap personal armor with a golden SMG autofire at short to middish range.
Replies: >>2101670 >>2102141
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 9:38:57 PM No.2101643
>>2101611
It's on smart ammo, not smart guns. Smart ammo is tiny guided missiles that seek vitals, so they can't fail to damage. Smart guns shoot normal bullets, they just have aim assists.
>These active-seeker Plastasteel bullets home on target's energy emissions and thus strike reliably (for 50% to 200% Power)
Replies: >>2101665
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 9:45:17 PM No.2101660
The magnum is good but boring, you can use it for half the game yes but where's the fun in that?
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 9:46:44 PM No.2101665
>>2101643
That's just for the magnum smart bullets.
Smart ammo on smart rifle doesn't have it.
Smart ammo on smartpistol doesn't have it.

>The 50-200% roll is specifically for smart weapons, they have a shared research requirement for it.
So this appears to be completely false. It's not specifically for smart weapons and it's not a shared research.
Replies: >>2101693
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 9:47:29 PM No.2101670
>>2101637
Indeed, if you don't use any weapon that's better than golden SMG because they are OP, then golden SMG is by definition the best weapon in the game. Can't argue with that logic.
Replies: >>2101717 >>2101770 >>2101774
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 9:53:05 PM No.2101693
>>2101665
>A relatively lightweight automatic cannon, designed exclusively to fire heat-seeking smart bullets.
Do you not understand the difference between %gun_name% smart bullets, and smart %gun_name% bullets?
>Smart ammo on smart rifle doesn't have it.
>Smart ammo on smartpistol doesn't have it.
They are called "Smartrifle Clip" and "Smartpistol Clip". That's not smart ammo.
>it's not a shared research
Magnum smart bullets is, itself, the shared research, since smart cannon depends on it.

Your autism power level is too low.
Replies: >>2101719
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 9:58:04 PM No.2101717
>>2101670
VICTORY!!
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 9:58:33 PM No.2101719
>>2101693
So we are in agreement?
>The 50-200% roll is specifically for smart weapons, they have a shared research requirement for it.
This statement is completely false.
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 9:58:39 PM No.2101720
>>2101624
Yes but the multilaser one is more useful early on. Your enemies are many dudes with little to no armor. You only really need the lascannon when you start getting Chaos Marines or Neverborn Daemons.
Replies: >>2101737
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 10:06:56 PM No.2101737
>>2101720
i don't agree with this either
the multilaser one has terrible range and no snapshot
lascannon sentinel can be gotten on the first tier of acquisitions and it has snapshot and range to fire across the map, killing enemies in a single hit, if they are 'little to no armor'
lascannon sentinel will kill more enemies in almost every situation, and it remains useful as enemies become tougher (which is almost every enemy after the first 3 months of ROSLIGMA.)
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 10:22:21 PM No.2101770
>>2101670
If we define "worse than magnums" as bad then almost every weapon in the game is bad. So why pick on golden guns?
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 10:23:48 PM No.2101774
>>2101670
Ctrl+D Ctrl+K is also more OP than golden whatever but nobody's suggesting that either for the same reasons.
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 12:11:40 PM No.2102141
xpiratez_smuggler_catgirl
xpiratez_smuggler_catgirl
md5: 77915365cf21af38eb97b155952e45a2🔍
>>2101637
>it's not that SMGs are weak, all the other weapons are just too strong!
Replies: >>2102311
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 2:38:52 PM No.2102255
>>2101273
Dioxine dislikes cats because they were sponsored content (he referred to it at one point as having sold himself). So people raving about enjoying playing cats pissed him off resulting in nerfs. Puma twins got removed as an immediate response to some guy basically saying if he could have two units in every campaign, he'd want the puma sisters, and Dio just got assblasted and deleted them.

I agree that they're overly nerfed now and are basically gals with a little extra TU and shitty armor, but don't hold your breath waiting for them to get anything new. And the marksman laser is at least of some use.

>>2101486
>best ballistic weapon in the game
That isn't how you spell Bossgun/HVAP.
Replies: >>2102311
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 3:49:54 PM No.2102311
>>2102255
Cats are only weak compared to ubers and ogres. They still outdo every other race.

>>2102141
SMGs are by far the highest DPS weapon past shotgun range. Also if you want to have fun, a Death Blossom loaded with chem and fitting on your belt can take down a sectopod in 3 bursts
Replies: >>2102329
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 4:00:36 PM No.2102319
1742967422320316
1742967422320316
md5: 7cfd2e35a323b5b80939ca81b7adcf85🔍
I keep seeing this shotgun vs smg argument over and over again and nobody seems to be able to agree on it. Does that mean the game is really well balanced?
Let's say early game you start with peasants they have dogshit aim in the 30-35 range, shotguns or smgs? Explain your choice.
Replies: >>2102324 >>2102343 >>2102425
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 4:05:53 PM No.2102324
>>2102319
Shotguns are always better if you're close range with awful aim, especially for things like zombies. With dogshit peasants you're best off camping next to a corner with a shotgun and waiting for things to come at you. SMGs are for pushing your effective kill range out to roughly the extents of night vision range and require decent aim to do this. They also step up to tackle middish armor.
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 4:10:47 PM No.2102329
>>2102311
The highest DPT weapon class at those ranges is melee, movement cost included.
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 4:30:15 PM No.2102343
>>2102319
The 30 aim peasants get shotguns, on the basis that SMGs require more skill to hit anything at medium range, and the very early ones aren't actually any more damaging than shotguns at point blank range.
A few tech tiers up, though, SMGs might be better than shotguns if you can do a burst attack from two tiles away, and around 50 skill a peasant might have a chance to hit enemies at long range, at least some of the time.

>Does that mean the game is really well balanced?
I would say yes.
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 5:52:54 PM No.2102425
>>2102319
you don't have any smgs in the early game. Also shotguns are heavier
Replies: >>2102476
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 6:36:03 PM No.2102476
>>2102425
Skorpion SMGs are a hidden gem. For month 1 trash loot they're pretty unique in that they set targets on fire and cause morale loss via normal piercing damage rather than burn damage or using the even weaker fire damage range.
Replies: >>2102521
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 6:57:17 PM No.2102498
Untitled
Untitled
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Wow, I fucking hate this.
Replies: >>2102538
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 7:19:29 PM No.2102521
>>2102476
where are you finding skorpions in month 1?
Replies: >>2102527
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 7:23:12 PM No.2102527
>>2102521
Red lantern villa? Unless Dio has removed/changed it recently.
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 7:26:13 PM No.2102530
its ogre
its ogre
md5: 65c258800dcff2d5128a44110ce6d0f5🔍
>got drunk and allied with the muties
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 7:33:08 PM No.2102538
>>2102498
>I fucking hate this
Already? Since you're just starting I should inform you that it will be a 3-stage mission. And you can retry it until completed.

Make your choices accordingly.
Replies: >>2102547 >>2102551
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 7:37:14 PM No.2102547
>>2102538
>spoiler
Why does dio keep doing this? Nobody in the history of xcom ever liked it.
Replies: >>2102574
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 7:38:40 PM No.2102551
>>2102538
Well, considering these fuckers are tanking blaster launchers and black sun rifle shots. I will probably just cheat and skip this. I don't see a reason to ever bother with that shit. These cyborg niggers are tankier than the sectopods and turrets. And then there's the aurora dolls that selfdestruct and destroy all the loot, so that incentive is gone as well.
Replies: >>2102553 >>2102561 >>2102563
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 7:39:42 PM No.2102553
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>>2102551
Forgot this.
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 7:43:25 PM No.2102561
>>2102551
Kinda sucks how for a good amount of content in the mod (this, T'leth, ninjas), the smartest move is not to trigger or engage with it in the first place.
Replies: >>2102577
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 7:45:51 PM No.2102563
>>2102551
some missions just seem like traps
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 7:54:40 PM No.2102574
>>2102547
One must know suffering to appreciate the little things in life. Besides, anything is comfy compared to Cydonia.

It's a pretty fun mission if you do it properly equipped. At least more fun than most multi-stage missions in piratez.
The moon nazi base is pretty fun as well, but the final stage reinforcements are too hard for me. I have yet to complete it with full pirate honors, aka killing everyone instead of nabbing the objective and cowardly running away.
Replies: >>2102578
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 7:58:52 PM No.2102577
>>2102561
>this
>the smartest move is not to trigger
I remember everyone wanted to spank the red-eyed brat when this part of her questline was still in development...

People talk the talk but they can't walk the walk.
Replies: >>2102578
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 8:01:32 PM No.2102578
>>2102574
I feel you're the wrong audience to cater to, if you find this stuff OK. But whatever, nothing stops me from cheating this crap away.
>>2102577
These cyborgs are tankier than goddamn sectopods, at some point you've gone too far. Even mind controlling one doesn't really help, since they can't even hurt each other. And I didn't even want to spend my freshness on what's apparently part 1.
Replies: >>2102589 >>2102598
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 8:13:04 PM No.2102589
>>2102578
>I feel you're the wrong audience to cater to
It sure is a minority opinion, but why is that?
I've never understood or seen an explanation why so many people hate multi-stage missions with a passion.
Underground missions, for comparison, at least have mapgen issues to justify the hate.
Or base defences with the sewers.

If the whole game was nothing but multi-stage bullshit, that would suck hairy balls, yeah.
But having some big impactful missions interspersed here and there is a nice change of pace from the usual grind. Those big important missions are what you're preparing for, what you're equipping and training your soldiers for. I rike it.
Replies: >>2102614
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 8:21:30 PM No.2102598
>>2102578
>These cyborgs are tankier than goddamn sectopods
But, hopefully, they have the same weakness. EMP grenade the crap out of everything.
Replies: >>2102607 >>2102625
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 8:30:38 PM No.2102607
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>>2102598
Nope, already tried that too. I figured I'd bring every kind of anti-robot weapon I had.
Replies: >>2102614
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 8:35:24 PM No.2102614
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>>2102607
And proof I'm using emp bombs. The HEAT rpgs don't do shit either.
>>2102589
Because the game is also designed to punish you for overstaying on a stage. My mage is already useless for spending all her freshness, nevermind the fact tomes of lightning have proven to be far less useful than I'd imagine. I'm on turn 10+ right now, and I've also still been unable to leave the goddamn start of the map, and there's two more maps after this.
I'm not saying multi stage maps are bad per se, hell, right now I'm more peeved about these giga nigga cyborgs than anything else. It's the thought of having to do two more stages of this, plus whatever surprise is left for the later stages that really grinds my gears.
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Anonymous
7/24/2025, 8:44:18 PM No.2102625
>>2102598
They're tankier than 2x2 units mostly because you can't aoe them for 4x damage.

You really need endgame weapons to pump adequate damage numbers into them. And even then they take a lot of punishment. Iron wind is the about the only thing that can hope to delete them in a single attack.

One cyborg is nothing particularly special in a vacuum, but when you have three stages with like a hundred of them plus several walls of instakill turrets and other fun things...

>>2102614
Looking at your gear I'd say wait a year or two before attempting that mission. It's way above your paygrade.
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Anonymous
7/24/2025, 8:50:59 PM No.2102633
>>2102625
I'm already on year 4. Other than armor piercing lasers which I'm already researching, or me bringing more plasma weaponry, but if they're tanking blaster launcher bombs to the face...
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Anonymous
7/24/2025, 9:04:02 PM No.2102648
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Oho, this is new. Now I'm being shot through walls. I imagine this is voodoo? That's fucking cool. How can anyone defend this?
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Anonymous
7/24/2025, 9:22:11 PM No.2102661
>>2102614
At a minimum wait till you have 36 trained soldiers in shielded power armor wielding heavy plasma.

Better would be if you had multiple BFGs/Blaster launchers.

For Sorceress armor the ONLY way to make them useful for multistage missions is to have the universal refresher on hand. It's kind of shitty design to disallow smoking IMO.

>>2102648
Yep technomancers have an EMP attack that doesn't require LoS like voodoo
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Anonymous
7/24/2025, 9:23:19 PM No.2102662
>>2102633
>already on year 4
Jesus. Please upgrade your... everything. Medkits, armors, soldier stats, equipment and weapons.
Come back in a year or two. This ain't ratman rodeo.

And sorry but blaster plasma bombs are kinda bad for how late you get them. No armor penetration, no secondary stat damage, impressive looking aoe but unimpressive damage except at the epicenter. Even a literal ballista would be better (with baby nukes).
Blaster EMP bombs are very good in PRISS, though. But still just as impractical as the basic blaster bombs.
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 9:26:38 PM No.2102665
>>2102661
>It's kind of shitty design
It is.
Should be pretty easy to mod it and move one of the hand slot aux items into the special weapon slot with greater mage's hand.
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 10:16:13 PM No.2102716
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Guess I'll call it quits for now. Shitty since it seems the corpses didn't carry over and now I won't even get to research them. Extra shitty since I do not have the interest left to stick around for two more years. I've been wanting the game to be over for a while now, even. I'll just move on.
First time making it to the late game though. Feels like the game shines best in the early-mid, when you first get flying armors. That's definitely when I had the most fun.
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Anonymous
7/24/2025, 10:22:51 PM No.2102724
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Ok nevermind, I did get to keep the corpses.
Still, I spent 5ish hours for this.
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Anonymous
7/24/2025, 10:23:56 PM No.2102726
>>2102716
>it seems the corpses didn't carry over and now I won't even get to research them
You do get everything from multistage missions when you finish the last stage.
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 10:48:42 PM No.2102772
>>2102716
>>2097497
>Extra shitty since I do not have the interest left to stick around for two more years. I've been wanting the game to be over for a while now, even.
According to this guy, the game is going to become even longer than it already is. If that happens, I'm making this my last campaign.
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 10:52:55 PM No.2102778
>>2102614
>Because the game is also designed to punish you for overstaying on a stage. My mage is already useless for spending all her freshness
That's a freshness problem. Adding freshness was a mistake.
It doesn't add much to the game and still causes edge cases like this.
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 11:05:23 PM No.2102796
>>2102724
So, how is Tiny Molester?
What are her stats, commendations, weapons of choice, etc?
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Anonymous
7/24/2025, 11:21:06 PM No.2102806
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>>2102796
Sure, here you go.
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Anonymous
7/24/2025, 11:23:18 PM No.2102809
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>>2102806
And here's her loadout for the priss mission. The AP rockets were the only tool I had that seemed to work against the cyborgs.
I usually have her carry a force blade and a smart magnum, tho.
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 11:38:20 PM No.2102826
>>2102806
charmy dancer definitely fits her name
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 12:02:17 AM No.2102846
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Oh.
I'm technically still an update behind, but I doubt the latest one continued this plot?
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 12:04:53 AM No.2102850
>>2102846
That's a generic WIP cutscene that's been used in multiple versions, what was the last thing you did with her?
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 12:08:45 AM No.2102854
I want to commission someone's favorite/cool looking loadout
Gimme some screens
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 12:10:39 AM No.2102856
>>2102850
Doing stygian research after freeing her from the tower.
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 12:11:51 AM No.2102857
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>>2102854
Sure. I really like my assault catgirls.
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 12:13:18 AM No.2102860
>>2102856
>The Stygian Nexus
>cutscene no Further Content Cutscene
Looks like that route still ends at the same point in N13.
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 12:13:34 AM No.2102861
I really like slayer rounda with Linux smgs
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 12:17:46 AM No.2102866
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>>2102806
>birthday cake 5
>114 missions
Anon please let your gals out more often or they get the sads :(
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 12:31:18 AM No.2102882
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>>2102854
(Don't actually do this)
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 12:31:35 AM No.2102883
Thinking about a new run, how much has the game changed since N7? That seems to be the last version I played.
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 12:41:26 AM No.2102891
>>2102883
Ninja war is now optional except on max difficulty
Less boss rank govt crackdowns
Captain personality has turboautistic amount of new options
New diverging path (bugeyes)
New TFTD content
Aurora content has been expanded, I think all routes are (almost?) finished
Some of the Dr.X/Red Mage routes have gotten more content (gudrun knight route is finished)
Lots of smaller additions. New generic maps, new craft, new weapons, etc.
All radars are now hyperwave, you can now make more than one menace, cats are getting worse, lokks are getting better.
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 12:45:49 AM No.2102896
>>2102891
>All radars are now hyperwave
What the fuck? Why?
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 12:50:47 AM No.2102898
>>2102896
Why not?
It just changes early game to be more transparent.
All radar ranges were also buffed a bit.
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 12:52:25 AM No.2102899
>>2102891
Also storage issues are pretty much gone now that you can make land deeds in the first year.
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 12:53:17 AM No.2102901
>>2102899
Oh yeah that's a huge one too. Early land deeds and early cultural wealth.
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 2:27:34 AM No.2102972
How do I use the blood dragon outfit?
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 2:43:07 AM No.2102988
>>2102972
get a hero
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 2:46:44 AM No.2102997
>>2102972
wdym? just give it to a hero and let em rip
pairs well with fast melee weapons like special daggers
it also has special attacks that are guaranteed to kill pretty much anything biological

it is rather squishy but has rapid hp regen and full mission end regen
that makes it fun to play with but risky
not ideal when facing serious firepower
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 2:52:07 AM No.2103002
>>2102997
Ah so like blitz armor a little then?
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 2:57:42 AM No.2103010
>>2103002
yeah it's blitz on steroids with hp regen
the end mission regen makes it feel more like a syn tho
no more sick days
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 3:01:41 AM No.2103012
>>2102866
At some point it's better to train new blood than field capped gals that will barely get some extra condemnations.