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>>2110042 (OP)
I can fix her

>what is squires?
is this the average hera follower?

>>2110067
could be bot

>>2110103
Side tangent but why the fuck Hera videos has so many fucking bots?
I dont see it happening to other AoE2 youtuber content creators

>>2110057
I don't want to fix her, she perfect. With Druzhina

>>2110107
I see it happening to t90 all the time.

Did they nerf monks recently? I had a group of monks trying to convert war elephants and they couldn't convert shit.

>>2110113
Slavic Championess showing her extra longer Greatsword and be like "Jealous?"

>>2110124
I wanna say they gave elephants a small innate buff to conversion but I may be imagining it.

guys i'm trying to set my hotkeys but for some reason the button i used for "select or ranges" doesnt work, select all barracks/stables/siege workshops/castles work just fine but range not for some reason

>>2110191
Do you have it mapped to something else?

>You did what I could not, I bought the three kingdoms dlc...
>Forgive me /aoeg/, I did not see... I have failed you all.

>It is over...
>the world of AoE2 DE will fall, and all will come to dev team layoffs, all dlcs to slop...

>>2110195
Is CaptureAge actually a part of Microsoft or just them doing it of their own?

>>2110193
Nope. I set it to "U". Yet whenever I press U ingame it doesn't do anything.

i need you guys to be honest with me. will we ever see another buff to handcannoneers, or will i die before my wish comes true?

after watching a couple of tier lists, including the ones in the last thread, I declare the khmer to have the most underrated castle
most rate it at B or C and I personally think it looks amazing

>>2110243
>or will i die before my wish comes true?
Yes

Anyone wanna play team games?

>>2110248
when/what timezone are you and how good are you?

>>2110252
I'm 700 elo and brazilian, I think it's the eastern US time

>>2110252
I'm Australian and I'm 1300 team

>>2110219
>CaptureAge
you mean the team that recently fired half their developers?
that sounds like a Microsoft move to me.

>>2110253
>>2110254
i currently only do 4v4 teamgames vs ai/campaigns and am PST, but im normally available after 10pm PST if you'd want to play around then.

im tired of losing every game against archer openings
i spoke about this the other day, how if i go skirms i just lose the castle time, you guys told me not to go full retard on the skirm production
well i followed your fucking advice, i went 1 range skirm with fletching vs 2 range archer, his archers destroyed me
im glad archers are getting nerfed to shit in the next update, fuck every ranged unit not called arambai

>>2110267
buddy, if you are getting pushed by archers and your making skirms to counter is costing you castle time you need to tighten things up.

>play custom campaign
>3 opponents raid at the same time
>ok I can deal with this...
>opponent started building a wonder
>reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
fuck this I just want to build and destroy

>>2110267
Probably poor execution, if you are doing something dumb like trickling your skirms into the enemy archer mass of floating a ton of resources of course 1 range skirms isn't going to work.

>>2110267
2 range archers will always beat 1 range skirms, he will simply outmass you

>>2110243
>will i die before my wish comes true?
hopefully

>>2110270
>recently tried doing some of the classic battles
>Bapheus
>opponents are the Byzantine garrisons as well as 3 Turkish tribes similar to yours
>decide to not ally with any of the tribes in the hopes of a big battle royale for the conquest of Anatolia
>they're all allied with each other AND the Byzantines
>all 4 of them send raiding parties in your precise direction every couple of minutes despite having no economy
>meanwhile you start with 5 vils and a dream
>have to gigacheese it else it's physically impossible to keep up
Any campaign mission that's just "build up and kill" is fucking dogshit

>>2110267
Is arambai even good for anything? I main Burmese and barely use them, just niche shit like killing rams over a wall or adding a bit of damage to a knight ball without needing upgrades. The lack of pierce armor really hurts and kind of defeats the point of anti-archer bonus attack.

Anyway I'm barely 1200 but I turtle for a fast castle and get two scorpions, that shuts down archers and feels like it still leaves me ahead.

>>2110380
arambai are one of the highest DPS units in the entire game

>>2110245
yeah ok Ghostmaster, we know the color of your skin and ethnicity already, we don't need more proof

>>2110382
Yeah, assuming they hit a target. They're also the most inaccurate, not counting trebs.

>playing 4v4 with my friend vs ai
>i pick archer civ
>we lose everytime
>i pick infantry
>we lose everytime
>i pick gunpowder
>we lose everytime
>after about 30-40 tries, i pick cavalry once(1 time)
>we win 1st try
how does my friend suck so fucking bad when he picks a cav civ every game? all i did was spam knights/cavalier/paladin and we won. the only other unit i made was trebs.

>>2110385
You got the wrong guy
Also holy obsessed

"Oh no"

>>2110403
well. did you win?

>>2110107
He pays for them to increase his engagement numbers

>>2110403
What's with the Khmer farm layout

>>2110391
the key thing is that you should be using them at point blank range basically all the time. melee units aren't a problem because everything within ~2 tiles of your aramball gets eviscerated before it can deal damage

>>2110376
Cheesing is ok with me. But shit like wonder victories are just stupid imo.

>>2110380
I find them terrible since, as you say, no armor. They have to get close/mid-range in largish numbers to do real damage and die horribly to archers of any kind plus siege. They're simply worse CA in 95% of situations.

>>2110533
its simply time limit, so you don't stick in corner and boom.

>>2110385
I'm a chud from Uruguay, thoughever
The only negative I could give the castle is that it kind of looks like it has one big room as opposed to a bunch of them.

>>2110582
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNIYob8nC7o

>2110618
I knew what it was gonna be. No (You) for lack of creativity!

>2110624

>>2110624
sometimes the low hanging fruit is the ripest

>>2110646
trees are for chopping, bushes are for harvesting
dont you know the basics?

"Nice castle you got there m8"

>>2110552
B-but I like booming in a corner

Relic win based
Wonder win cringe

>>2110681
>he cuts down fruit trees
I can smell your gurjara stink from here.

what's the appeal of regicide?

it's time to give elite skirm to turks

>>2110245
Sorry, but it's kitsch as fuck.

>>2110813
why

>>2110787
it's for losers who enjoy dragging out games as long as possible. Also bads whose only capability is tricking gullible players better than themselves into trusting them.

i wish steam had a tracker for how much time you've played as each civ

>>2110822
because it just is ok???!!!

>>2110267
Skirms have faster training time, just make sure you are not idling the archery range and get archer armor if you know he is investing heavily in feudal age but you should also start walling him out so he has to break in

>>2110403
I hope you aren't putting composite bowmen in the castle, they should have more DPS on foot.
>>2110705
Never counter castle on the low ground

>>2110873
I didnt, they all died and we lost regardless.
And blue could have castle drop my face but he didnt, and I think he lost the castle wars only because since my castle was in higher ground he took less damage from all the 4 rams and 10 petards he made.

>>2110813
>>2110866
you are thai

>>2110875
If there is a one tile bump of hill and my castle is on that bump does it count the castle as being highground?

>>2110925
...Yes?
The only thing that I know is that the uphill bump needs to be in the "center" of the castle
Like, you know the castle is a 4x4 tiles building? The middle 2x2 tiles has to be on the higher ground
I'm saying this out of gut feeling, not any technical knowledge

>>2110925
there was a sotl video about highground placement but i cant find it

>>2110931
I'm checking right now, if I had to guess, it is either Georgians, Tatars videos, or that old as fuck, base AoE2 about highgrounds and cliffs video from years ago

>>2110930
I’m pretty sure there is one tile always designated as the “center” of a given building. It’s easier to find on the 1x1/3x3 buildings, but it’s there on the 2x2/4x4 ones as well.

>>2110930
>>2110934
https://youtu.be/7ufHu-v5zAs
5:10

I fucking called it

>>2110939
Whoops, meant for >>2110931

>>2110810
The whole point of Turks is that their trash units are unusable. You go double gold unit and either win outright or take over all the gold on the map to keep going.

>>2110969
Only Skirmishers & Spearmen, anon. Turkish Hussars are excellent.

>>2110939
thanks. I'm surprised pros don't have a mod or something for this. It's probably not totally easy to perfectly center a castle when playing fast. Like they have the daut castle foundation to quickly show it's a castle, but no little colored square in the middle.

>>2111122
>Like they have the daut castle foundation to quickly show it's a castle
I've played this game for barely 200 hours and I can tell what a building is gonna be based on its foundation at a glance, only barracks/university throw me off a bit since it's rare to observe them being built
I'd argue that castle and monastery are the two easiest ones you can immediately spot, since the first one has those large brown lines alongside its border and the latter has the AoE1 relic being buried under it, but blacksmith being T-shaped archery range being a big L are also pretty immediate to spot

>>2111171
Sure, for us non-tryhard normal people this is so. But there are people who play with cubetrees, gridlines, monocolor terrain and simcity style pictures on foundations.

>Play team games with randoms
>One guy starts to wall his corner
>"hey man can you help on this choke?"
>radio silence
>eventually me and other guy lose the 3v2 and well all surrender
>rando ends the game with a neatly spaced double layer of stone walls still under construction by a single vill that is intentionally avoiding terrain and trees to use as much stone as possible
Next game
>2v2 with buddy
>guy on my side immediately seem the better of the two enemies, we start attacking each other and competing for a gold vein
>look over to buddy, he has 40 knights and 50 archers just sitting there
>"bro come here" (verbal A-move command)
>we 2v1 the guy and he rage quits
>his ally did nothing all game except build a square of walls around his base starting with the side facing his ally, the side facing my buddy was still being constructed by a single vill

It's so funny to me that people are intimidated to try multiplayer in AoE
>"But everyone is following the meta and is a sweatlord!"
meanwhile half the playerbase is gamer dads whose only goal is to end the game with a pretty base

>>2111238
quickplay or ranked? I 2v2 with a friend and we see all sorts of weird shit in unranked, most common is a guy in @1.3K elo playing together with a guy with 5 games played.

ranked is a huge pain though, even at 1K they coordinate rush timings to destroy one person. fast castle drop covered by mongol lancers, frankish knights with organ guns, shit like that

>>2111238
remind when when I was 1vs2, I've pinged to my pocket, ask him to help me since I was fucked hard while he was busy making two perfect symmetric castles and walls, I've quit without a word and he instantly called me noob.

On other hand once my teammate asked us to wall off half the map for some reason, I've said it's stupid idea and oh boy i was wrong and madman actually did it.

>>2111278
>Korean SOs
Old screenie

>>2111282
not even year old.

>>2111278
I think that's the only reasonable way to play those long running post-imp games. Otherwise your eco dies to hussar spam.

>>2111265
Unranked. My buddy and I have conflicting schedules and can only play a couple of games during the weekend which I'm sure contributes to us finding those gamer dads.
>ranked is a huge pain though
Oh yeah team games can be competitive, I was just thinking about all those time I see people discussing why they don't play multiplayer in strategy games and they say things like "I don't play multiplayer because I don't want to get stomped by a smurfing 16 year old korean cheater metaslave rushing me with 400 APM" when there's so many people queueing up just to play base solitaire, unbothered by the possibility that they might lose or that they're playing badly.

>>2111278
it's absolutely worth it to wall off the map in long team games, or you're head will explode from having to deal with nonstop raids

Only winged hussars should be winged.

>>2111278
>Kyle Nutmeg and Kevin Nutmeg

>>2111313
Agreed, I fucking hate how ugly hussar look. Light cav look so much better.

>>2111278
>Kyle Nutmeg and Kevin Nutmeg

>>2111333
post the hammond again lil bro i want it

>>2110969
What do you do if your opponent invests heavily into feudal archers? You have to make squirmz if you dont want the 23 archer death ball to kill you. And what do you do once you hit castle? Now you have 15 skirms that dont scale at all.
I know turkish scouts have +1 PA but they still dont counter a ball of feudal archers.

>>2111355
turks are simply pretty weak on open maps but bloody good on closed one, by buffing turks on arabia you are making them ever stronger on arena.

>>2111335
Fuck no that's shittily done AI trash. I shoulda deleted that waste of kilobytes years ago

>>2111355
You have an advantage in gold gain, better to make archers for defense than skirms. Save the food or throw in some scouts. Transition into CA which can then use the same upgrades and get bonus HP on top of eventual FU.

>>2111332
Light cavalry look too similar to Scouts as is. Not that if affects me, I play with the AoE1 Scout mod

>>2111303
trust me he started build this wall in feudal age, but I agree 100%

>>2111355
I don't get it I thought scout opening beats archer opening.

>>2111384
light cav got a big round shield on their back nigga. How de fuck you confuse dem?

>>2111485
from the front

>>2111526
skill issue

I partially miss how the original AoE2 scout had a minuscule dagger that made the same sound as a vil's
New ones obviously look better and make much more sense, but watching your woodline get raided only to hear the thunkthunkthunk was way less threatening
I also miss corpses dissolving into skeletons but alas
I also miss the excellent blood mods from the original's workshop now that I'm thinking about gore, that Crimson Blood mod that's ever so popular has some spills that just look retarded

>>2111481
said who?

>>2111481
Microed archers in a chokepoint will always beat scouts

>>2111643
hera

>>2111648
if you're fighting them in a choke point then you're either in his base or your base. if it's in your base you should have the defender's advantage, and if you're in his base you can just pull back.

What are the best infantry civs right now?

>>2111772
Mongols

>>2111772
Holy roman empire!

>>2111358
giving them elite skirm would not make them busted on arena at all

>>2111772
Viets

what's your favourite AoE1 civ?
what's your favourite AoE2 civ?
what's your favourite AoM civ?
what's your favourite AoE3 civ?
what's your favourite AoE4 civ?

>>2111772
wu and armenians

>>2111836
aoe2 sicillians
aoe4 english
haven't played the other games

>>2111836
Tootons. Haven't played the other games.

>>2111862
>haven't played the other games
>>2111884
>Haven't played the other games.

>>2111836
Minoans
Sicilians
Isis
Russians(but I haven't played in over 15 years)
never tried 4

>>2111836
>AoE I
Macedonians
>II
Bulgars
>M
Thor
>III
Haven't played
>IV
Holy Roman Empire

>>2111836
>don't play it
>don't really have one, japs maybe
>greek (zeus/hades)
>spanish
>HRE
I just like infantry even though it sucks in every game

>>2110042 (OP)
I love this artist.

>>2111836
Does he pick mongols because he's a compfag and wants to have the best odds of winning or because he actually likes them?

>>2112030
both, probably
I mean it's hard to dislike a civ that makes you win

don't even mind mangudai too much, it's those fucking lancers in early castle

>>2112068
Played against Mongols as Teutons in a big boomy 2v2 Lombardia game last night and Mangudai are definitely the worst part of them. 8 base attack is ridiculous on an archer that can effortlessly delete any and all siege. Even FU Teuton Paladins felt like it had no chance against a small wall of Steppe Lancers with a mass of Mangudai behind. Even if I broke through they just kited endlessly.

teutons are such a boring civ man
i just played with them and won but still didn't have fun
they are so sloooooooooooowwwwww, it's like a fucking drag doing a push with teutons

>>2111772
Celts are the best MAA rush civ
Armenians are the overall best militia-line civ.

>>2111836
Greeks for AoE1
Celts and Armenians for AoE2
Atlanteans, worshipping Oranos, minor gods being Oceanatus, Hyperion and Helios.

Why doesn't Fabric Shields apply to the militia line?

>>2112130
t. zoomer

>>2112171
3/5 of the militia line don't use shields.

>>2112079
>effortlessly delete any and all siege
They still die to heavy scorp with siege engineers, if you can somehow force them to fight you.

>>2112246
neither do kamayuks

>>2112130
this but Koreans
I used to drag a tunnel of walls with me as I advanced, force cavalry civs to fight in cramped quarters

haven't even played Koreans since their team bonus was gutted

>dream about aoe2
>screen says I have 100 elo

>>2112317
>Dream about aoe2
>Have in dream like 5apm

>>2112281
They have ponchos which act as shields.
>>2112277
lol fuck no, mangudai murder scorps on top of being mobile.
>>2112317
dreams are AI generated.

>>2111836
>Sumerians
>Bulgarians
>Ra
>Dutch
>Abbasid

ITS ALREADY AUGUST!
where is the patch?

>>2111772
I like Burmese for the attack bonus. Makes their MAA rushes extremely scary with forging.

>>2112384
idk teehee

>>2112389
Or lets you attack earlier. My favorite is coming in with three militia to harass, and baiting his vils into a fight right as the MAA upgrade is about to finish.

>>2111836
babylonians
celts
norse
americans
dont got one

>>2112068
Nah fuck that, Mangudai define the civ and are an integral part of what's made the civ eternally relevant
Their early eco is definitely good and their lancers are pretty spooky, but a ball of fast moving relatively tanky murder machines that can effortlessly dive trebs and kite anything that isn't a direct counter is the main reason people aren't afraid to go late with a civ that has very little in the way of unique bonuses or techs for Imp (extra Hussar HP is nice but without final armour they're nothing special, and they don't really compare to farimba/stirrups/Poles/Jurchens)
The only apt comparison would be release Monaspas, which caused endless seething and were quickly adjusted into strong-but-not-OP territory because of muh DLC powercreep bitching, courtesy of Reddit

Recurve Bow heavy cavarly archers are prob the only unit that you could make and argument for being better than mangudai. As it stands magyar HCA is the second best unit in the game.

whats the most fun army composition and with what civ?

>>2112616
Celt or Ethiopian Siege onager.

>>2112616
mass conquistador

>>2112635
Nothing that loses to skirmisher can be considered fun.

>>2112635
Mass conquistador is peak borefest, they shoot slow and overkill to a ridiculous degree. Conqs are only fun in early castle when you have less than 10.
If youre gonna mass, mass a melee unit, or arambai for an onager on a horse.

>>2112616
Coustillier + Hand Cannons

>>2112650
just split them into more control groups

>>2112353
>mangudai murder scorps on top of being mobile
The reason it works better is you can have more siege units for the same price. He has to focus-fire since you have halbs or another meatshield in front. If you have four onagers he splits into two control groups and shoots two volleys each you're done, plus your shots are easy to avoid. If you get eight scorps for the same price (or a lot more if you count the cheaper upgrades) he's gonna have to do more of that, while taking shots that are harder to avoid. Might even snag on some stray halbs if he tries to split more. If he doesn't split he's gonna lose half the army before doing eight volleys.

The hard part is forcing him to fight this comp in the first place as you're super slow. But then so are mangos.

>>2112670
how many should i put in a group?

>>2112799
enough to oneshot whatever your opponent is using, with some margin for missed shots

>>2112616
100 HP Aztec monk swarm + siege push

>>2112824
but I can't micro more than two monks

>>2112829
Gotta click fast

>>2112667
you must be mansa musa with all that gold.

fox is the cutest.

>>2112621
This has been true since AoK. Throw in the fast halberdiers and you're set.

>>2112921
I always fail to keep his hussars away from the siege. Worst part is if it takes ten of them to kill one onager he still comes out ahead.

>>2112922
Keep the Halbs on Defensive stance at all times and never engage with them, just use the onagers to attack things.
Think of Halbs as the shield and the onagers as the sword of a single body.

You can put stars on civs in what looks like a some kind of "favorite" system, but there doesn't seem to be a way to filter to only see starred civs. And the stars disappear next time I open the game.

Any thought?

>>2112948
Not having Armenians kinda cringe m8

>>2112967
I don't need pay2win. They gave out some DLCs for free recently and dravidians on nomad/clearing are just unfair with the fishing bonus.

>>2112970
>I don't need pay2win.
Armenians are nowhere pay2win what the fuck are you talking about

>>2112972
is it the cavalry ball with infinite attack or the armor ignore archers, I can't remember
either way, fuck off

redbull wololo 2025 isn't happening is it

>>2112973
Georgians are definely pay2win but Armenians are nowhere close to pay2win nor being OP, and Composite bowmen are still easily counterable
Yer dumb m8

>>2112973
I like how they nerfed Genoese to make room for the premium anti-cavalry archer.

>>2112977
probably yeah
else I guess I wouldn't have to ask about putting stars on civs

>>2112948
the stars are for making a custom civ pool that the game can random civ pick from (pick the Custom option next to Mirror there)
devs are incompetent vibe coders so it resets every game session though

>>2112978
genoese are still better thoughever

>>2112948
>And the stars disappear next time I open the game.
Exactly why it's a worthless fucking feature.

I get that Genoese were pretty famous mercenaries during the period, but why does the unique unit retain the naming when they can represent other Italian states?
A better name would be a more generic "Pavise Crossbowman" (since they got rid of that unique tech) or just the Italian "balestriere"

>>2112068
Lancers are ass. They were hilariously broken on launch but then they got over nerfed and now there's no reason to make them ahead of knights. The nigger devs always do this to fun units

>>2113141
Because the civ was made by a smol mod team in their free time so a lot of shit was cobbled together poorly
If it was a newer DLC civ, they would have actually cool units and they wouldn't be sharing lines with Byz but alas

>>2113152
But condottieri are cool

>>2113152
>newer dlc would have cool units
>heroes
>retarded charge and meter mechanics all over the place
>auras
>crunching tanguts and khitans under the same umbrella
yeah haha. new DLC would make it really good.

>>2113141
Pavisier would just sound good enough.

>>2113149
They're great in small numbers, can easily one shot vills and spearmen before they can be hit back.

>>2113130
The stars are persistent thoughever.
>>2113141
IDK, why are "Boyars" not simply named "local heavily armored mounted nobles"? Because it's simpler and easier for peopel to understand.

>>2113188
>retarded charge and meter mechanics all over the place
Unrelated but I don't care about these as much because I understand that trying to make a set of unique UUs for every DLC within the game's relatively limited mechanical landscape isn't easy
Most of the obvious choices like "le infantry.. but good against archers?!" and "le archers.. but good against cav?!" have already been done so I'd assume it's a pretty tough job without resorting to gimmicks or "it's a reskin of a regular unit with a slightly different bonus damage profile"
I still want to see a civ get an obviously overtuned unit that only costs gold, with its main gimmick being that you either win within the first 10 mins or you're fucking done.
Now that I think about it, that's what Condottieri should've been:
>Castle Age unit from barracks
>trains instantly
>stats comparable to a 2H swordsman but faster
>costs 140g each

>>2113341
But condottieri do cost only gold??

>>2113341
>frogposter is terminally retarded
Colour me shocked.

>>2113369
>colour me
I know you are

>>2111836
Never played
Romans
Loki
Russians
Never played

>>2110042 (OP)
These are so fucking gay.

He says, not realizing that he was looking at his reflection on the screen

i think when the USA civ is finally added, there should be a unique tech that lets all houses spawn (and maybe produce with maybe a longer training time) 1 minuteman unit.

>>2113437
Play AoE3

>>2113439
Nah

>>2113437
>finally
it was added years ago retard
https://ageofempires.fandom.com/wiki/United_States

>>2113437
>Houses slowly produce unique resource called moonshine
>Moonshine can be traded for minutemen

>>2112979

>>2112996
thanks

>>2113403
You are brown

>>2113437
Americans will never be added, and that's a good thing

>>2113341
just don't add more civs, only brainded redditors raised on LoL and overwatch think you should keep adding and adding and adding
nobody except the random pickers play all 50 civs, people who pick civs usually pick from a pool of 20

Quick, get your 200 ELO boost before it's patched!

https://youtu.be/AYyBmaS92g0?si=5lzfLNUefpdRkAxS

>>2113644
Campaign players want more content and devs want more money

>>2113672
chatgippy, summarize this video

>>2113687
Wall shield, I could maybe explain it ever simpler.
Wll shll.

>>2113672
Implying my games ends in imp age

>>2113687
walls block treb shots.

>>2113672
i hate trebs wars so much, I'd rather get my 30 expensive mamelukes die to arrow fire just to get the treb than engage in a treb war

>>2113703
I just don't play civs without bombard cannon. Though if he has some too, those exchanges are even more annoying.

>>2113706
I like meso too much.

>>2113726
Wow me too, let's be friends

>>2113706
this, I love BBC!

>>2113729
teach me to play them, I like them but I'm trash with them
i can't make eagles work, they get rekt too easily even by archers in my experience
they feel like a gold costing skirm unit
I mainly like meso because they have some of my favourite UUs

>>2113749
*gold costing skirm COUNTER

Is there a problem with smurfs in ranked? Played four games today around 1200, three of them gave up in the first minute. I guess trying to lower their elo to get matched with noobs.

>>2113749
Eagle play is currently dead, forcing opponent to tech switch into militia line used to be big deal but right now it's so easy and cheap you are hurting yourself by going into eagles, eagles don't counter archers until imp+techs.
It's simply better to stick with militia line + skirms for feudal aggression
Or double archer range as Mayans

>>2113672
This is so cool, I hope it becomes meta.

>>2113773
Are you sure it's not your internet?

>>2113809
Would that give me points for winning?

Why do people hate water maps so much?

>>2113826
Ships are too boring since it's just a single triangle of counters, and UU ships are just good against everything.

>>2113826
I haven't played a water map since like september of last year, i wonder if increasing the capacity of transport ships actually made the matches more fun

>>2113826
combat triangle is more non-existent, once one side has naval superiority it's hard for second team/player to bounce back.

>>2113826
0% chance for a comeback after you lose the water (unless both players/teams are 400 elo shitters)

>>2113826
all civs are good on land, not all civs are good on water.

>>2113773
Yes, like 1 in 10 of my 1v1 games I'll run into people who insta resign because they don't like the map or to lower their elo or people who have like a 90% win rate and less than 100 games. I'm in 1700 elo. I report these smurfs but nothing is ever done about them

>>2113959
>insta resign because they don't like the map
i just close the game from the library :P

>>2113410
>liking women is...LE GAY!

>>2114021
uh yeah?

>>2114025
What's straight then?

>>2114034
futa on female

>>2114036
gayer than gay porn

>had to wait for the fucking CCP before we got a tournament with actually interesting map rotation
The quals alone have been really kino so far, shame for a couple of map slots wasted on Arabia/Arena but Lookout and FishNFish look really interesting at least

>>2114150
It can't be called a tournament if Arabia is not in the map pool. That's written somewhere in the AoE rulebook.

>>2114021
Putting women into traditionally male occupations.

>>2113221
They die to TC fire, or anything ranged really, too easily. The developers hate fun

>>2114344
Extremely powerful in early castle age, too weak in imp, lucky every lancer civ have other options.

>>2114436
Not like you need other options when you destroy the guy with the first attack
if he goes anything other than archers he's gonna have to switch just to stay alive

What did the devs think was going to happen when they decided to double the HP of the persian TC?

>>2114482
uhoh someone mad they got douched and doesn't know how to counter it!

>July Patch
>August 7th still no patch

>>2114582
>spirit of the law calls the public update preview - july a "july patch"
>every fucking retard calls it the july patch now even though it has never guaranteed a patch within that month
i hate it here.

>>2113672
That is cool
>Picks Turks

>>2114512
I assume the "only" counter is to move out of the way and capitalize on your vil advantage. Even if you are giving up your starting resources, you should reach castle age much faster and break the TC with mangos or rams to get your main gold patch back.

>>2114706
>castle age
Against a properly executed douche you're not getting there
I think you're supposed to waste time till you eventually get Fedual, spread out, make a couple of archers and pick off whatever eco he has left behind

>>2114766
I might not have faced a properly executed one then. They usually just fill the TC with vils to destroy mine, while I'm gathering resources and getting ahead.

>>2114777
Competent ones usually villrush you once your own TC is down/wall you in/are prepared to drop you again as soon as you drop your new TC
You can usually get to Feudal with your starting TC, but getting to Castle is a tall order

You should just not be allowed to delete your starting TC in the Dark Age.

You should just be forced to delete your starting TC in Dark Age.

You might be allowed to delete your starting TC in the Dark Age.

>>2114863
Do what you want, but you shouldn't get to build a replacement one until castle age.

Laming is nerfed, chickens shaked up deer pushing, now you guys want to nerf Persian douche, what's next 20 min ceasefire on Arabia?

>>2114909
Most this board is sub 1k elo

>>2114914
I'm barely 1k, but I don't play that much ranked now still it's weird to see how people hate strategy part in strategy game.

>>2114917
Are you implying there's strategy involved in the rush?

>>2114940
does any other strategy than cavalary or archer spam needs to be nerfed to the ground?

>>2114963
Nerf castle drops and boost hp on all houses and palisades so no one can break into my "perfectly walled" feudal base

>>2114482
That has been a thing since AoK, back when the Teutonic douche was a thing and outranged other TCs. It's an easy fix, restrict Persian TCs and Docks get HP bonuses to Feudal onward. But the devs clearly want to keep it in some manner as a vestige and it's not like the strategy is without caveat. I can only see a nerf happening if it becomes refined and everyone begins doing it.

>>2114963
mangonels need nerfs too.

>>2115129
spears should be faster than CA so they can counter them

>>2115144
scorpions should probably be at least CA speed too.

>>2115151
scorpions should poison targets

>>2115157
and hold enemies in melee with their pincers

Is RBWololo happening this year or not

>>2115258
idk

>>2115258
No.

>>2115258
Yes.

>>2114940
Not him but the tc drop strat is harder to do than most people think, there is a lot of counters and counters to the counters you need to learn for the strat to work

>>2110376
They have economies. Raid them. If you hit teals farms as soon as you can it fucks them up so hard they’ll never recover, and yellow’s eco is similarly exposed and vulnerable.
BBTs are really good if you’re going solo.

Do you guys play ranked? custom maps? random fun crap? single player?
I only boot aoe2 from time to time and try to finish something on hard, i either fail miserably or it takes me 6hours to finally manage while constantly save loading. never touched anything related to multiplayer

>>2115778
Skill issue
But single player campaigns (which I have completed, sadly) and ranked multiplayer team games with a friend