Thread 2223034

Proper baker edition
https://gofile.io/d/zAJ2RV - Full DV leak repository. Proposal, charts, maps.
https://www.youtube.com/@ThomasLands - Leaked build footage. Nearly finished and scrapped Italy, very unfinished Germany/US reworks and more.
https://space.bilibili.com/385529615/upload/opus - BiliBili leak video repository.
https://files.catbox.moe/80z6tb.png - Bormann TNO2 flowchart (never releasing).
https://files.catbox.moe/cdag1w.pdf - Vote Pig, the US rework proposal. Read all about this hot new TCT mod.
https://files.catbox.moe/j8tp21.pdf - December roundtable notes. Germany never.
https://files.catbox.moe/9320n5.pdf
- Japan rework. Now with a full proposal leak.
https://files.catbox.moe/xlhrjj.pdf - Sweden proposal. Dev still lurking, will respond to all bait.
https://files.catbox.moe/ycctp0.png - Sweden flowchart. We lost Pakt Sweden for this OTL-fest.
https://files.catbox.moe/l70qhw.pdf - Burgundian Eulogy: Burgundy 2 was real but got scrapped like everything else.
https://files.catbox.moe/zff5y4.pdf - Serov "facelift" document. The first leg in the now confirmed Komi rework.
https://files.catbox.moe/ymgaur.pdf - Amur rework doc. Over two years in dev hell, still no release date.
https://files.catbox.moe/iwmxg6.pdf - Manchuria doc #1.
https://files.catbox.moe/cgaqrz.pdf - Manchuria doc #2.
https://files.catbox.moe/y2hc34.pdf - Manchuria doc #3.
https://files.catbox.moe/96kjev.pdf - Manchuria doc #5.
https://files.catbox.moe/vdpi8k.pdf - Red Italy proposal.
https://files.catbox.moe/3n9lq9.pdf - New Granada walltext.
https://files.catbox.moe/r86sw7.pdf - 200p walltext about Colombian soccer mechanics.
https://files.catbox.moe/izg02l.png - 6th (?) space race mech rework mockup.
https://files.catbox.moe/o2pmmv.pdf - Old burgundy proposal, lost to history
https://files.catbox.moe/chzsvc.pdf
New Japan doc

https://files.catbox.moe/iicybx.pdf - Nixon characterization doc for writers. It's what you think it'll be.
https://files.catbox.moe/9p7n8b.png - Vote Pig Nixon tree.
https://files.catbox.moe/go9tnq.png - VP Reuther tree.
https://files.catbox.moe/ez4g4c.png - VP Schlafly path. Peak evil Republican fascism let's go!
https://files.catbox.moe/joltgi.png - VP Yorty tree.
https://files.catbox.moe/m1i3hv.jpg - VP rework leak, Hiram Fong replaces Romney scrapping years of work in the process because it "didn't fit the Republican narrative".
https://files.catbox.moe/71ilh5.png - Central America design.
https://files.catbox.moe/hi1h3m.png - China flowchart.
https://files.catbox.moe/djf9rg.pdf - Latest Moskowien rework proposal.
https://files.catbox.moe/9nqmlk.pdf - Iberian Wars rework document.
https://files.catbox.moe/5anjuv.png - 5 new Caribbean nations flowchart
https://files.catbox.moe/nlrpjl.pdf - British West Indies lore document
https://files.catbox.moe/s9rx4e.pdf - GGR Constitution for TNO.
https://files.catbox.moe/ptvdb1.pdf - Old Indonesia proposal.
https://files.catbox.moe/3v5h8h.pdf Leaked Yorty Doc, Exactly what you expect from mango
https://files.catbox.moe/omzl7q.png France flowchart, resistance is dead

>TNO:RA
https://gitgud.io/Ivanishvili/TNORA - TNO: Rises Again Git. Atlantropa TNO for current HOI4 with new content.

>LEAKED BUILDS
Just making sure these aren't lost again.
2021: https://gitlab.com/IllyaTokar/git-days-of-europe
2022: https://gitlab.com/retardedsolutions/git-days-of-europe/
2023:
https://mega.nz/file/bBFGHZJT#a4lNsnLLzHWHG1iic5yHwgL1kK1VAE5qmT2Iqi7k2EM - Hotline Manchukuo
https://mega.nz/file/TIMmVBKC#939MhfLfR3G0UQdenlK0R5AY54x8lGlnSs42H8BzHhw - Illusions End
https://mega.nz/file/SBtSmZAD#CDYh4s4SBz3GjvBSOjOpQ4RnGgaDhnq39ehNTVFzbhs - Penelopes Web
https://mega.nz/file/CZt1CZwa#O0Yfzil-VqfJBwH_yuWvGkbDK5XF7DG5iM7rdO-rqdg - Germany Branch
https://mega.nz/file/SJ0HjDrC#jeTd9dcOuCeNpAZvrM_tFJjaSKjWLhVpSibBVqj_eWg - Shifting Tides

>news
New update for Requiem and Rises Again
CA is out

Roundtable Notes!

Someone already made a thread you blind moron.

>>2223066
Yeah, a SHITTY one without the leaks

>>2223042
>>2223046
https://files.catbox.moe/zo5zhk.pdf

guess what, they finally did a roundtable and new notes are available fresh off the press

>TCs want to make dev channels more open and accessible to other team members
(transparency is good)

more leaks soon to come?

Skeleton Revamps via kingdragon

All of Latin America
All of the Caribbean
Faroes, Iceland, Falklands, British Atlantic Posessions
All of Iberia

>>2223171
>Italy is a single team and will no longer being treated as multiple tags to help with cohesion (everyone is Italian at the end of the day) + The characters from the different paths will play a role in different ones
STILL STUCK ON DAY ONE ISSUES FOR A NORMAL MOD
>Fill and HW are working with other devs on body team proposal, will hopefully lead to more active code dev but progress is being made
ITALY IS REWORKED AGAIN
>First draft of coding for 1964 and 1968 for Yippie Presidents soon + Fine tuning Soon!
SEVERAL YEARS IN. 1964 CONTENT IS ONLY JUST STARTING TO BE CODED.
>Schlafly had ties to fascists, US gov structure has enabled fascist governance in Yippie but it’s up to who is in charge
REPUBLICANS ARE THE REAL FASCISTS IN TNO STILL
> Be proud of your work on TNO, everyone matters! Don’t let hate comments get to you
"Please ignore the fact that literally everyone hates the mod now!"
>Sometimes it’s good for devs to have more closed spaces for discussing things
Mangobunker moment.
>Germany devs are busy at the moment
Germany rework stuck in another year of total dev hell, sucks to be the anon hoping for a 2026 release.
>2-3 updates a year is good, don’t concern yourself with unreasonable complaints
Inhuman levels of coping.
>Good faith concerns are taken seriously, but it’s a volunteer project at the end of the day
LMAO.
> Amur is the focal point of Russia dev still
AFTER THREE YEARS WITH NO PROGRESS.

DEAD. MOD.

>>2223197
This shit is so ass

>Take a look at Steam page
>All attached pictures are screenshots of various Antarctica tags and Fiji
>Mod is about germany winning ww2 btw
It would be funny if it weren't so sad

Reposting in this thread so it's not lost: I found Thomas' channel of leaks and started researching. Haven't played TNO in actual years, I stopped after Silicon Dreams. Seeing France & Red Italy content that's fully real makes me want to fucking die.
https://youtu.be/8Zzq0c82-pM?si=t6EqEK_rt1-VfMsJ
Video I'm referring to.

>>2223171
Any idea what the elephant is?

>>2223197
Insane death spiral. Even their echo chamber reddit has revolted

>>2223473
it’s a joke about the elephant in the room o algo

>>2223555
Yeah but what is the elephant that needs to be adressed

>>2223447
Ten minutes in and I'm already done. They made all of those GUIs, mission trees for France, Greece, and Turkey, and special mechanics, only to scrap them. I would be shocked if even 10% of TNO's active devs are, in any manner, not demoralized at this point.

I was in the Requiem Discord today, and they might be getting someone who used to be part of TFL and got purged by base TNO.

I really wish there was a way how we could help Requiem get other ex-TNO devs, or even current ones that are being Mangod

>>2223611
Could've been me but I quit and I'm so happy I did!

>>2223647
The best help they can get is Mango fucking up.

>>2223447
I would be surprised if any TNO dev isn't demoralized at this point. In that one video, there are three semi-functioning focus trees for France, Greece, and Turkey with their own mechanics and GUIs to support them, and none of them will see the light of day.
>>2223653
The original message I posted was worded so poorly, but yeah, I can't imagine morale being high if this is the working environment. I thought it was just "lol we haven't even started working because we haven't made up our mind," not "lol we're deleting your hard work that probably took months or years because uhh fuck you."

>>2223662
Just look at Rises Again and all the content they brought from the cutting room floor. There has to be dozens of tags that could've been playable or at least skeletons that were all yeeted. That way one of the greatest things about RA isn't the mod itself but that it kills the nudev narrative that everything that remove wasn't a huge waste of time and effort.

>>2223708
No you moron you don't understand. Of course it was a waste of time and effort! They didn't have my heckin clicking decisions for bullshit amounts of pp and cp!

>>2222056
no, it isn't. they explicitly say you can either focus on one or do it balanced, but not erratic. why even answer if you don't know either? fucks sake.

>>2224530
nayrt but maybe they messed with the formula since release? That's caused a few misunderstandings like this over the years.

Truly, there will never be something like 2020-21 TNO ever again

>>2225309
Remember Afrika Addio?

>>2223171
>First draft of coding for 64 and 68 presidents didnt even start yet
Its over, isnt it?

>>2225885
Yeah at that point I have more faith on Requiem eventually coding and releasing their own full US and German rework from nothing QUICKER than base TNO

>>2223171
>>2223180
>>2223197
Does anyone know as to what the Iberia update will include? Apart from just skeletons ofc.

>>2225924
They say it would only be a facelift of the current Iberian content, with the only "major" change being a one-year focus tree for the contenders in the civil war. You know how bad things are when a facelift is the main hope for the mod rn.

Some funny Discord copes, including the fact that they probably won't be posting updates on Twitter anymore.

Some funny Discord copes, including the fact that they probably won't be posting updates on Twitter anymore.

>>2226012
These guys are blatantly lying. We have leaks that Italy, France, Turkey, Moscow, among others, had well-developed content. Italy was even about 70% ready, and yet they threw it in the trash, and now they say it was never even developed. I imagine how mad devs who worked on that must be.

>>2225309
>They're just mad we aren't Nazis like them
>They were all teased before any work was made
HOLY FUCK >>2223447 MY DUDE THIS ONE'S FOR YOU
Literally 1984. Past content erased? It either never existed or was all bad.

>>2226021
The list is probably a lot longer. That's just the stuff we know from leaks. Imagine all the stuff that either had the tiniest amount of OpSec or just wasn't on a Git when a major leak happened?

>>2225924
Full Iberia Facelift
Content for all Iberian Wars factions, with 2 mechanics, focus trees and events, until the end of the Wars
Development Mechanic for Iberia
Legislative and Advisory Council GUI/Mechanic for Iberia

From December 2024, big rock of salt

>>2226203
with 2 mechanics, focus trees and events, until the end of the Wars
Why are they talking about it like it's something special? Isn't it literally basic content

>>2226286
They didn't. It's just normal content like what a lot were hoping for at the time. You're just interpreting that way because things are so bad that this would be hailed as a massive W today.

>>2226320
Its that I found it funny that they mentioned it, as if it wasn't already a basic requirement. It would be like them saying, "You'll be able to manage the economy, there will be decisions to make and minigames for you to play."

>>2226152
I am fucking speechless
All I ever wanted was a shitty visual novel for Canada & some proxy participation
I want to scream

>>2226012
Holy shit they really like sniffing their own farts don't they?

>The Mango/QPQ TCT mod on RFK ended up having a jab towards the TCT fanbase on how they "have historical politicians act like you want is bad o algo"
>Post TFW Vote Yeepig ends up having
very unsubtle jabs towards the TNO fanbase, something like people not appreciating the work done or wanting the world to "be wacky", my intuition tells me there will be a jab.

>>2226964
Nah everyone that disagrees with the leads just happen to be a card-carrying NSDAP member.

I was wondering, How easy would it be to change the sejima skeleton content for manchuria and just slap on park chung hee and the republic of manchuria on there? I dont know how to code but I changed some of the events in my files to reflect park being in charge but I cant seem to get him into the leader portrait or the game rules its always just sejima. Pls help with this one because im certain its a stupid easy thing to do its really only a portrait a name and idelogy change to reflect the recent teasers

>>2227585
Look up a tutorial on YouTube but iirc it should be as easy as editing the nation-specific character file and then make sure that Park has all the attributes of the leader you're trying to replace. This should also be where you tell the game what gfx to look for.

I'm a bit rusty and might've forgotten but that should allow it to work. For some reason in my head I keep lumping together edits for the new character system with the old one where everything was in the history/event files.

>>2227593
I found him in the images, but it's under Park Chung Hee rather than the name I used, which was his Japanese name. Also, I don't Idk how to add him without deleting Sejima. Aside from that I really wish the dev team or some modders could revamp manchurias skeleton content. Because I had to manually edit Manchurias GDP growth and societal development by hand when I was playing Guandong because It simply wasnt a challenge

I was reading on Discord to get some gems and, apparently, the Chilean guy from Antarctica created the content in less than a year, having only started working on it in February. How the hell can a single guy release content in less than a year, while the rest of the team can't release what they've been working on for at least 3 years with dozens of devs?

>>2228433
>develop country people actually care about
>random team lead interjects every two weeks and demands a rework
>develop country no one gives a fuck about
>leads leave you alone & you can do your own thing

>>2228433
The above anon is right, can confirm. Most of the nations that got scrapped were so over petty nonsense and someone from the correct clique disagreeing with a dev, cue purges. Consider the following: ALL of Europe and ALL of Russia have been reworked several times over while the only things that actually get released are Mexico and Antarctica. Not even Brazil was safe as that tag's entire intro is going to be destroyed by the DV integration. something that - again - is only happening because the DV lead is friends with the right people. Just imagine the kind of shit that someone devving France would have to put up with when they're told that they suddenly have to account for an entire colonial empire being added and then consider everything else on a similar scale that could've happened to other teams. Do this and it suddenly becomes obvious why they haven't had an actual update in years.

>>2228731
>mestrecker
rip

>>2228857
Elaborate.

>>2228862
mestrecker simply deleted all of his socials.

>>2228893
Why?

>>2223034 (OP)
What is the most recent leaked Japan path leader chart?

>>2229673
This. The full doc has since leaked, but no one's sure yet if it comes before or after this and it doesn't really matter since this seems to be the general formula they're going for.