Thread 2225236

Well, he is right or wrong, /vst/?

>one proud shill
lol lmao, I can't believe people still take him seriously

>>2225264
>>2225236 (OP)
It is too early to call, it's in need of some polish

>>2225236 (OP)
Literally who, do we already have anime mod?

>>2225264
yeah well I respect his bad taste. didn't he basically say Victoria 3 might be the best paradox game (at 1.0 in his initial review video tho)

>>2225236 (OP)
No, that would be Hearts Of Iron 4.

>>2225236 (OP)
It's pretty peak ngl

>>2225776
Venitians were one of the lost tribes of יִשְׂרָאֵל

>>2225236 (OP)

Who is the Welshman? I don't keep track of YouTuber slop.

When it's a buggy piece of shit, I think calling it a platonic anything is fucking delusional.
But, it's good enough that I don't feel comfortable just shitting on it with no caveats.

I think this is the first of their recent releases that feels like it mostly got things right. They seem to have taken all the right things from Imperator and Victoria and blended them pretty coherently. I'm glad they listened to the people asking for a pop system and economy, I think that was sorely missing from EU4 and was what kept me from really getting into that game.

>>2225236 (OP)
I don't think it's anywhere close to perfect in its current form, but it seems like they actually built a core game that aspires to be great in every respect—unlike Eu4, Ck3, IR, Vic3, etc. which all made severe compromises in order to do some things well. The potential for Eu5 is absolutely staggering and it really just needs some polish and better AI/balancing to become the consensus best Paradox game.

>>2225873
>the potential
What potential?

>>2225908
for me, it's MEIOU 4.0
like having region locked institutions and then region locked advances are meh but issues like that are much much more feasible to fix with mods sooner rather than later

>>2225764
>>2225768
Wow is that a pop culture reference omg Johan did it the absolute madman

I dont get how Johan, who made a game everyone hated on release (imperator), refused to fix it till its potential died and has a history of outlandish expressions (comparing piraters to pedophiles, considering suicide when HOI3 failed) managed to make a paradox game actually good on release.

>>2226189
He's a risk-taker and a visionary and sometimes that all pays off.

>>2226189
he did pull his shit together as they say

>>2225481
He thinks Vic3 is a good game, yea and shills it continuously.

>>2226189
For better or worse, Johan simply has the mandate of heaven

dont buy it unless you are willing to spend hundreds of hours reading and watching tutorials before you even have any clue what you are doing

>>2226503
I'm smart so it was pretty intuitive for me

>>2226503
I don't get this meme
I fucked up and restarted twice after 50 years but things have been smooth sailing since then
Why are you so afraid of learning from mistakes?

>>2226189
It's an insane redemption arc honestly. When he said "I don't think you'll like our games from now on" after that one forum user complained about mana I was honestly ready to say that there would never be a good Paradox game again. Ask me that before July of this year and I'd have still said the same. It is INSANE that he managed to put out something that I think will honestly be better than Vic2 in just a few patch cycles.

>>2226503
I figured shit out pretty easily on my first playthrough, you might just have a skill issue

>>2226189
Imperator was his no man's sky moment.
He realized he took all the wrong lessons from eu4 and instead of saying the players were wrong he set about fixing the complaints. Through that he realized what eu5 could be.

>>2226503
its ok bro I play oxygen not included and I constantly fuck up my colonies. suffering is a necessary discipline

>>2226836
Still shit?

>>2226503
brainlet

Defensive Leagues are so broken

>>2227360
You mean in the way that the AI tries to change the policy every month for no reason?

>>2227419
That and also how the AI will never leave so you can basically permanently secure neutrality from someone

>>2227428
>how the AI will never leave
meanwhile the ai instantly breaks any and every regular alliance that they have

>>2225236 (OP)
Paradox released a game in beta when they usually release it in alpha. That’s impressive.

I look away from Italy for 50 years and this shit happens

>>2227454
What type of Civil War causes a country to completely fragment like this?

>>2227491
One side tried to put pineapple on pizza

>>2227491
Is there like a "history" section for countries? I seem to recall something like that in EU3 where you could go read through some highlights of what a country did (ex. rulers, provinces taken/lost, wars fought, etc.)

>>2226532
This, honestly i feel like a lot of people saying its too complicated are just mad they couldn't instantly master the game and run the most meta economic powerhouse fantasy possible on their first try.
I played my first 100 year game with the full intention of just learning and restarting later and desu the game isn't that complex when you figure out how markets and pop system work.

I own parts of provinces in Africa as a tribe but other parts are unknowned and I can't find any way to colonize those parts in the Colonies tab, what the fuck do you do here?

Can't wait to see what modders do with this game. Hope this game gets a great modding community like HoI4

>>2226503
I did that for fuckin Imperator and then eventually realized i had no time for Imperator

>>2226503
>EUV campaign lasts for two million billion gorillion years
>Do something crippling, recover over 50 years, continue
>Do something crippling again, recover over 50 years, continue again
>Didnt really lose much time at all

>Best Paradox release in more than a decade
>Still has run ruining bugs
Bravo Johan, please fix your game I really want to play.

>>2227714
Letting the days go by, let the water hold me down
Letting the days go by, water flowing underground

>1 million euroids in usa/canada by 1560, 400k sent by the pope
>multiple colonies of the same country fighting over the same locations leading to extreme border gore
>peru untouched by 1650
I just want my believable worlds man.

>>2225236 (OP)
if he means over-complicated systems, more bloat, more nested text, and adding a thousand more buttons, then yeah

>>2226836
imperator is looked back on pretty fondly. we can see there was a good game there. he just needed to be bullied out of mana systems

>>2227714
bugs get fixed core gameplay issues don't

>>2227454
in my game tunis has the biggest fleet in the world by far. they run almost 60 heavies in 1497. they would be clear naval hegemon if they were a great power

i've been playing for days and have yet to see how the new world colonization mechanics work, as I've been stuck in the swamps of Eastern Europe. Bugs, autism and lack of mechanics (i.e. ability to easily remove a weak king) have caused me to start over several times.

>>2227761
stfu doomer

>>2226189
He's the only visionary at paradox and one of few left in the industry, certainly outside of japan. He genuinely cares about what he is doing beyond mere pandering and giving the fans what they think they want. He has a history of being overambitious, which is why hoi3 launched so badly, but that is better than goi$ and v3 stripping core mechanics from the game and giving huge bonuses to, if not outright enforcing, automation.
>>2226836
I agree but I think it needs to be said that he is surrounded by faggots like Wiz who are the cancer killing paradox. Reminder that Johan was replaced a bit before 2015 and it was after he left that all the terrible awful gamey changes started happening: development instead of base tax was one of the first things Wiz introduced and it was also one of the worst changes to the game.
Hopefully paradox see the celebrated launch of eu4 (and the sales figures from old fans are enough) for them to stop, as cliched as it is to say, dumbing down their games and shoehorning mission trees, focus trees, and other arbitrary crap where you get +69% damage because le uberreichums instead of organic benefits from circumstances.

>>2225236 (OP)
At this point it's a better idea for a game than EU4 was, but it's not a better game than EU4. The game is very much not complete, there's a lot of mechanics, but no one ever bothered to test these mechanics working together.

>>2228008
>has more content than EU4
>not complete
>not a better game than EU4
You sound filtered.

>>2228008
This is impossible since eu4 is an overbloated garbage game

>>2228018
You sound delusional.

>>2225236 (OP)
It's fun to watch but it's not fun to play so I guess he's right.

>>2228027
>7,022 Events (about 2,000 generic, 5,000 DHEs) -> 6,351 in EU4 1.37
>22 Situations -> NEW!
>33 Disasters -> 41 in EU 1.37 (Half are now portrayed via new systems, such as Civil Wars)
>35 International Organizations -> NEW!
>16 Societal Values -> 9 in EU3
>63 Cabinet Actions -> NEW!
>289 Government Reforms -> 617 in EU4 1.37
>190 Laws & 790 Policies -> 203 in EU4 1.37
>You might have noticed that there was a swap in numbers between Reforms and Policies, so better to consider them as a block
>256 Estate Privileges -> Approx. 200-250 in EU4.1.37
>2,534 Advances -> NEW!
>434 Buildings -> 36 generic, 10 unique
>267 Units -> Difficult to compare, since now they’re buildable
>20 Works of Art types, 11 Artist types, c. 250-300 WoAs in setup -> NEW!
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/developer-diary/tinto-flavour-47-29th-of-october-2025-content-is-king.1864982
It's objective fact, m9. The first Paradox game to launch with more content than a completed prequel. I'm not the delusional one here.

>>2228035
He meant the visual novel that holds your hand throughout an entire campaign called a mission tree. Nufags can't play a gsg without it.

>>2228035
eu4 literally stopped getting better and got worse past a certain point

>>2228036
Mission trees are just free claims and some bonuses. EU5 also has missions, but they're kinda generic, like the Imperator ones.

>>2228035
>look at all these meaningless numbers they claimt hey implemented
You're such a moron.

>>2228043
>reals?
>m-muh feels mufuga
Next you're going to start talking about ""soul"".

>>2228045
Next I'm going to call you a drooling retard.

>>2228047
Stay mad, and filtered, faggot.

>>2228048
Here's some more numbers for you to drool over.

>i-i-it doesn't count, because... because I SAID SO!
>*stacks modifiers*

>>2228035
Okay. Now boot EU4, pick a nation, and play for a hundred years. Then boot EU5, pick the same nation, and play for another hundred of years. The number of ticks would be the same. The number of meaningful decisions you would need to make in EU4 would be several times bigger.
The main problem with EU5 is that there's no actual decisions you need to make, you will do the very same actions as every single country on the map, and in the very same order. You would never want to add to decentralization. You would always start building roads and bridges as soon as possible. You would always switch to 'By blood' and 'Favor the Ruler' because why wouldn't you. You would never think about building forts because the AI won't declare on you anyway, etc. EU5 right now is as shallow as Victoria 3, and that's impressive even by Paradox standards.

>>2228054
Then there are no decisions either in euiv other than completing the gay mission tree

>>2228052
You'll rue the day you slighted me(200 years later). I cast conduct population census allowing me to receive +0.01 pop growth for 5 months and end my turn.

>>2228054
>The number of meaningful decisions you would need to make in EU4 would be several times bigger.
Is this a fucking joke? There is literally nothing to do except blob.

>>2228042
some mission trees are obscenely powerful and others do virtually nothing they make national ideas look like a joke
there are a number of permanent bonuses to the tune of +2 or even +3 missionary strength, 10-25% trade power, trade efficiency, and basically everything else ontop of the timed ones, which i have far less issue with, like the ottomans' mission which makes artillery completely free for 10 years
it's essentially a second set of national ideas for specific nations
they are one of the worst additions to eu4 possible the single worst thing
missions were fine before

>>2228058
Making eu5 the same as eu4 by your own admission.

>>2228063
Are you genuinely retarded?

>>2228066
I'm not you so clearly not.

Erm EU4 has many decisions to make. I have to decide if I want to make a temple or a workshop. I always choose the one which gives more ducats but it is a big decision.

If my language has localized location province for a location, they're not birthright and natural borders of my nation, simple as.
Now I shall eat half of Egypt, break it into ten OPMs, make them all culture shift to Greek, and watch as coalitions march in my fortified killbox frontiers for the next 100 years

>couldn't even last a week before devolving into schizophrenic whining about old bad new good
grim

>>2228069
Whatever. You lost btw

>>2228076
I'm not you so obviously not.

>stack Innovation, if Euro
>stack Absolutism
>stack Crown land
>stack Mercantilism
>stack Army & Navy Traditions
>stack Army Professionalism
>stack Militarization
>pick Quantity ideas every game
>4-6 cavalry, max out combat width with infantry and 50% artillery
Is there anything else I am missing?

>>2228077
I won though. I got the game I wanted and everyone is starting to realize that mana and mission trees are garbage

>>2228074
What else is there to talk about. On release at least it had the appearance of a new game so people could delude themselves into imagining all the things that would be possible. But all you do is wait on speed 5 all game. They crammed every reddit meme about map painting into their turkey and called it a day.

>>2228080
Your clown college degree was money well-spent.

>>2226189
>Implying EU V is not a complete mess of a game

>>2228080
Mission trees would improve the game tremendously (and they will with a revolutionary DLC in 2029 when the average online is 1500). Right now you look at the map deciding whether to pick Serbia or Bulgaria, and decide to close the game instead.

>>2228094
Why are you mad? Just go back to your game supposedly so full of choices

>>2228099
I'm not. You're projecting your anger at me.

>>2228096
It is a fresh release, so, naturally, it is buggy, yes.

>>2228101
>I'm mad because all the things which made me stop playing euiv got pruned from the sequel

>>2228105
>projecting didn't work so now he's talking to himself and fantasizing about fake scenarios in his head
Tragic.

>>2228107
>fake scenarios in his head
Care you to point out where the mission trees and mana are in EUV?

>>2228102
>It is a fresh release, so, naturally, it is buggy, yes
It didn't used to be like this.

>>2228121
When?

>>2228121
It always was like this. Games either got patched many times or the bugs were simply left in and people made mods to fix things.

>>2228121
That's because day 1 patches weren't logistically feasible.
On the flip side, you had games that crashed a lot and nobody patched it. It's kind of funny how many people have forgotten this experience.
That happens way less now. You have the Oblivion type of messes now.

>>2227428
>>2227442
I don't think I would have survived any of my runs if this wasn't the case :(

>>2228008
Must be nice to feel smart while saying utter nonsense

>>2228035
>2,534 Advances -> NEW!
I think I actually enjoy they tech system, I don't feel in the need to rush anything even the techs I saw the muh content creators shill

>>2228098
>Mission trees would improve the game tremendously
No they wouldn't. I remember when they weren't in eu4 and it was great.

>>2228052
>i-i-it doesn't count, because... because I SAID SO!
This truly is their main argument

Aside from a bunch of bugs that aren't gamebreaking and some roughness and lack of polish the game is genuinely good and fun once you treat it as a country simulator rather than just a map painting game. I'm happy the reception was positive and the launch fairly successful, but I'm even happier that doomers, naysayers and blobfags got BTFO and proven wrong yet another time.

Best pure tall run? Venice or Genoa or something?

>>2225302
polish people's consensus is that its undercooked and AI sucks balls

>>2228102
This shit is not buggy, nigga. It's broken.

>>2228208
>bro it's just broken because... because I said it is ok??

>>2228206
Name five strategy video games with good AI

>>2228208
Broken means its unplayable, non-functional
The game isn't broken, it's buggy; unless you're running it on a toaster from 2004, I suppose

>>2228191
True. Stab isn't le universl mana because uhhhhh I SAID SO

>>2228222
>>2228052

>>2228226
Also true.
>+5% cabinet efficiency :o don't mind if I do

>>2228229
>>2228052

>>2228221
It's buggy to the point of being non-functional.

>unit strength gets multiplied by the amount of guys in the unit to determine damage done.
>This is why early game new units have the same stats as the old ones but a higher bodycount, going from 100 too 200 guys to be twice as dangerous for the same equivalent of frontage.

So then the 1000 man peasant levy moggs all?

>>2228240
Have you tried not being brown

Ideal capital for united North+South Germany?
Is it Frankfurt?

>>2228294
Don't need to try when you're born white you little shit stain on existence.

>>2228240
What specifically is making the game non-functional for you?

>>2228340
The bugs dumbfuck.

>>2225802
He's the guy who does the Chapel comics, don't think he's on youtube

>>2228340
play a game with manual trade on.
if you upload a playthrough where you do this for 1 hour, i will concede my argument

>>2228358
Why
>>2228349
Which ones make the game unplayable?

>>2228301
Berlin

>>2228358
i've had sometimes trade go to 0 in manual but that happened like 2 times in 12 hours and i just save and load the savefile, literal 10 second fix, other than that, no issues at all with the game.

>>2228366
>h-huh w-wuh w-wazzat i no understand
Kill yourself.

the EUIV has many meaningful decisions
such as
fabricate CB and eat your weakest neighbor (or just ignore CBs LMAO)
then press the paper mana button!
and then you get to do it again! and again! and again! and again!

>still sperging out over eu4
grim

>>2228377
Hang yourself shitposter

>>2228383
Why?

>>2228098
i so fucking hope we never see mission trees

>>2228386
same
but seeing how PDX fucked up Stellaris - the enshittification will commence
you WILL enjoy the visual novel elements
you WILL do ahistoric bullshit
you WILL get absurdly powerful events/CBs/mechanics in order to preserve the lowest common denominator

>>2228380
CK3 simps did this around that game's launch too, shitting on CK2 at every opportunity.

>>2225236 (OP)
Is expanding RGOs profitable because you should strive toward competitive advantage in trade or because you want to strive towards autarky?
Does the game reward capitalist free trade or communism?

>>2228377
>garbled nonsense buzzwords
>no i will not elaborate
>kill yourself

>>2228400
They are better than peasants living through farming and giving you zero moneys, so even cheapest good at the cheapest market price is still better.

>>2228378
You forget the press for free CBs and modifiers button

Is the Ming achievement bugged? I'm the leader of the Middle Kingdom and I have direct rule over all of China, including Taiwan, and it hasn't fired.

>>2227983
>imperator finally made good
>gets abandoned due to lack of interest
imperator was the Jesus of Grand strategy games, at least we got EUV out of it.

>>2226503
>spend hundreds
Took me an hour to figure out 80%~ of stuff. You just INTlet.

>>2228005
>goi$
What?

>>2228391
everyone i know is happy with eu5 but i know there are plebbitors seething about muh complication - i read them in steam reviews
i really hope they allow johan to pilot and don't replace him with w*z again for retard mass market appeal

why is there SO MANY FUCKING PROVINCES in europe compared to africa or w/e

>>2228406
Voltaire was so sassy, he'd fight right in on this sub

>Is literally saint material
>Stats are just Okay
Well shame, at least he's a good Duke compared to his father.

>>2228431
No agriculture, fewer people across larger areas

>>2228436
>sub

>>2228386
but we already did they're just dogshit. if you do x and y while in age z you can use your country's hecking unique modifiers.

>>2228430
>everyone i know is happy with eu5
Did they buy the game and leave positive reviews? Redditors will win and get the game dumbed down if they're the only ones buying it and tell Paradox that it's too complicated.

>>2228430
>>2228430
They need to deduct your pay. This is pathetic.

>>2228400
RGOs are an easy cheap way to put peasants to work, because otherwise they're just making food
I don't think Autarky is a thing that matters, so far I think markets are country agnostic. You have no control over tradeflows outside your own.

post your favorite EUV OST RIGHT NOW!
hard mode: no Pain Is Salvation
https://youtu.be/F46NFmpPdUk?si=W4fD4K30mmzeNH2m

>no habsburg kino
Truely the darkest of times.

>>2228496
>no greyscale Evropa
blessed timeline.

*sweats*
spare me blobhemia please....

>>2228470
I'm just very confused as to what I'm supposed to be doing as a small German single "literal hu" county outside of Frankfurt.

I've managed to grow my demesne to 8 counties now and even upgraded one to a town with another town seized, but there's little chance of being able to supply all my own needs and I'm on the border between two distant trade centers.


Do I just do the logical IRL thing and go Singapore and import food and stuff and focus on finished goods, or do I work on minimizing all basic needs imports first and worry about specialization later? (I understand that my choice of a backwater rural county distant from trade centers and with very feudal values is not ideal for a merchant republic, i like hard mode)

>>2228527
Just look inward, that's all you can do. The game has an adundance of peacetime mechanics to interact with compared to eu4. Try to keep a province providing food though, relying on food imports doesn't usually work out historically.

>>2228121
Paradox games have never shipped in a functional state, though. EU5 might genuinely be the most functional at launch gsg paradox has ever released.

>>2228574
(you)

This launch is making me miss mana

There, I said it.

I don't care about having 60 buildings, dozens of agendas, and hundreds of characters who each need education, marriage, and power in order to someday become a councilor.

I don't like how there are a million things I can click to spend money on, but only 2 or 3 things are actually worth clicking. Designing noob traps is bad game design and leads to bad AI design.

Automation being required to play just means that the systems aren't worth interacting with and should have been simplified.


I'm just venting. Anno 117 is coming out and I'll keep on eye on how EU5 is developing and if the base game ever goes on sale.

>>2228625
>filtering anno tards
Johan just keeps on winning

>>2228574
Trvke

>>2228494
For me it's https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjDqgg5CivY

Fucks sake it feels like 80% of the events in this game are bad. Every month its lost 40 stab or only 20 prestive and 20 stab.

Qyuestion:can i still easily unify castile, beat up aztecs n sheet, get colonies everywhere and take french, dutch, italian and austrian lands?

>>2228642
Another filtered Eu4 baby.

>>2228527
I honestly don't know enough to tell you how satisfying food works when it's in other countries in your market have food but you don't.
I've just been playing Moscovi and they don't lack for food.

>>2228206
The AI is at least on par with the other PDX games, I'd argue its actually a bit better at army management.
Not good but what strategy game has good AI.

It'll probably get worse as they add DLC and patches the AI isn't properly weighted or setup to understand

>>2228358
Market instability makes it a bit micromanagy, but especially as the market settles a bit this isn't particularly difficult.

Manually sorting trade is good for institution spread as well.

How large of a vassal would I be able to keep? I'm worried a chonky 2k army smolensk is too big to control for 3k Moscovi

>>2228773
lol

>>2228798
Just do diplomatic spending and it'll improve their loyalty

>>2228831
>just bleed money

>>2225236 (OP)
what army comps are good after getting professional armies?

>>2228891
seconding this

>>2228625
interesting I keeps seeing this maldie over and over again. is it the new npc cope

my king is canonically mentally retarded and i had to cough up money for him to even have a positive stat growth during his childhood education
but he somehow managed to snag the throne of serbia
if the seat of power is in serbia, does that make serbia the senior partner in this union
can i flip this so i'm the one on top instead?

>>2228494
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=On96pZIKcdI
this one is stuck in my head

>>2228953
i think u need to have a bigger number (bigger then 58) to do that but not sure

how this looking, what yall think

>>2228976
cropped out the date, its 1405 and im playing as Castille

>>2228976
looks generic

>Czech culture is both Germanic and Slavic for some reason
>the Sudeten Germans don't exist for some reason
>the Hussite Wars (an ethnic Slavic uprising against German rule) never happen
Why did they ruin Bohemia?

>>2228991
>>Czech culture is both Germanic and Slavic for some reason
isn't it? They seem too germanie to be slavs

>>2228991
Prag is the rightful capital of Germany.

>>2228215
europa universalis 3
europa universalis 4
world war 3 black gold
age of empires 2
dawn of war 1

>>2229016
bend over, prag

>>2228813
Want to provide an example or just be a nigger?

Thanks but I'll stick with the better game

>>2229061
tago

>>2229068
Thanks

Do I get the option of leaving the HRE later in the game if the ghibellines won the guelphsVSghibellines situation?

>>2228429
I believe he meant HoI (Hearts of Iron) but was trying to make a jew joke about how penny-pinching they are with DLC.

>>2228494
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1daPN4mnZ8

I'm not German but an outsider at least can recognize some cultural differences among Swabian, Bavarian, Rhineland, Saxony regions, etc. But I never got what Franconian culture is supposed to be when compared to others. I mean irl Franconian regions. Can some German nigga help me out on this one?

>>2229043
>europa universalis 3
>europa universalis 4
>age of empires 2
can confirm that the AI in these games is shit

>>2229061
>map looks like autism puzzle pieces

>>2229043
>eu4
>good AI

is it even possible to force countries into becoming vassals through war without a "Claim Throne" CB? I cant seem to force Portugal into a Fiefdom cause its over 100 warscore eventhough ive eaten most of its territory

>>2229054
lol. you tried.

Is Brandenburg an easy or hard start?

>>2228976
until they bring in favoured nations so you get something marginally historical in asia minor, the balkans and eurasia (re Muscovy/Russia) I'm not buying this game. The borders shouldn't look/progress like CK2 for 500 years

>>2229230
Brandenburg is one of the stronger countries in the HRE on paper, but it gets kneecapped by a modifier that can only be removed if you get the ruling Wittelsbachs to fuck off

>>2227761
Colonization has never been good or fun in any EU game

>>2229332
Which happens in like 5 years

>>2229332
What do you do to get a Hohenzollern?

protip: stop using blend map mode

>>2228574
Ehh, I think that's still CK3. Unless I am forgetting something.

>>2226189
He took actual feedback from the community during early stages of development (the whole Project Caesar thing), so people were able to call out any bullshit he may have introduced.

>>2226189
>when HOI3 failed
HoI III did not fail

>>2228429
>>2229093
he means HOI4 specifically (see where the $ key is)
old meme

>>2229778
>he doesn't know
Bruh.

>>2228891
Well you need cannons asap to crack forts, but other than that, idk what's good.

Is Holland/Netherlands a difficult start in 5? A friend who played them said he got dogpiled by both France and England. I dont know if he fucked up or if they're actually a harder start now.

>>2230006
He prob took too much land and got coalitioned

Where do goods that don't get used go?

>>2230245
the bads

>>2230245
Ritually sacrificed to Johan for favorable balance changes.

England is eating my (netherlands) market. What can I do to get more market attraction/more gold flowing into my market?

I should probably also make my own market and split off from Flanders but I'm on ironman and I'm scared I'll death spiral because of good/food availability

>>2230338
You need to being a cuck and war them.

>>2230348
Stop*

>>2230245
Stockpile

>>2230348
Well, they did wardec me a while back but I fought them off and ended up winning, but I definitely don't have enough troops to invade england. Trying to play semi historically. Maybe I'll just keep researching until I can go to sumatra and start selling everyone coffee.

Also, which types of regular troops should I be using for just a general purpose, primarily defensive military force?