>start off as literal nobody, an actual meme vtuber from a joke
>leech off your creators fame, then once you got big enough, leave the other joke spawns to try to actually be something
>continues to leech off creators fame through the transition, starts gaining some sort of traction from 4chan ads
>does donothons almost every 3-6 months to pay for 3d concerts where her mod makes the models
>entire careers consists of leeching off big indies once creators stop really caring, leaves all old friends behind
>somehow manages to get in a corpo

If corpo standards nowadays is really to just know other famous people and have big numbers, corpos are truly doomed. Do we not hire actual talent and hidden gens anymore?

cover hasn't hired actual talent or hidden gems since myth and promise

cover is continuing to hire actual talent and hidden gems such as advent and justice

>build a network
>hire people
>constantly working
>get noticed
I don't see the problem.

>actually talented /here/-adjacent chuuba is possibly making it to the big leagues
>catalog meltdown
any other board would be celebrating, how do we fix the seething femanon problem?

>>101087246
Money isn't a "talent", nyana.

>>101087301
learn a song purely by listening in the next 15 minutes and record it

>>101087358
>things that totally happened
Yeah, yeah, and she's super funny and entertaining and la creatividad and stuff. Also cunny, UOOOH!

I accept your concession

>>101087301
Plenty of chuubas have money but spend it stupidly, like trying to debut with a gajillion-dollar model then rebranding once a month

>>101086826 (OP)
I'm still waiting for someone to tell me how "leeching" works. If it's bad for the person being leeched from, why do they allow it? If it's bad for the viewers, why do they watch the leeches?
If it's not bad for either, maybe it's a fake idea?

>>101087435
Nyana, if you're hoping to memoryhole your "path to success" just because you're planning to rebrand in a corpo, it won't work.

>>101087461
Listen anon uh... ummm
if you are a smaller vtuber, and you collab with a bigger vtuber(even if they're your friend or like you) then uh.... ummm you are a leech! okay?
uh....

>>101086826 (OP)
Pippa is just a lazy whore. It is what it is.

>>101087246
>big leagues
We don't actually know what it is yet. Sayu was super happy about her chink scam company.

>>101087461
In Nyana's case, she had a circle of friends and a prior community that she completely abandoned to only hang out with bigger indies. Bigger indies see chuubas like Nyana as non-threatening. They befriend her because they never fear she'll surpass them or "steal" their viewers. Nyana also plays it safe by not being too "4chan adjacent" or "uohhh loli", so she's safe for bigger indies to have around compared to let's say Chromu or Powdur.

It's not called networking, it's called being a sell out. Once she started getting attention from Filian, that was it.

>>101087461
according to the /vt/ rules, doing anything to actively try to be successful besides solo streaming and waiting to get a lucky raid is forbidden

>>101087246
>actually talented
What talents does she have? I haven't actually seen her content but she just reminds me of another chibidoki. Pretends to not be loli and can't sing. She even got the chibidoki model so that doesn't help.

>>101086826 (OP)
post tits

>>101087676
Nyana called it the 'opportunity of a lifetime'.
Also, Nyana is not as lacking in the judgement department as Sayu is.

>>101087740
I've heard a bunch of chuubas say that. You really don't know what they mean without any details.

>>101087729
she's actually a pretty strong singer and entertainer as far as untrained indies go, there's enough different songs on here to show her range
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2Azbg6s1WA

>>101086826 (OP)
mamabicho

>>101087484
Last I checked FlaVR had devolved into a circlejerk of 1view babiniku reeing to each other about femoids, but who kept bragging about Nyana's success as their own even years after she'd quit and dropped the branding.
Heck it wasn't just Nyana, they were claiming even random people like Nyaru because she was a chuuba with numbers who'd interacted with some of the girls in FlaVR before (girls who had since quit).

>>101086826 (OP)
her fake loli voice filtered me hard. I hope she ditches it if she reincarnates.

>>101087844
She constantly switches between loli voice and normal voice. Is she able to pick a side or is she always going to try to pander to both sides of the community?

>>101086911
>myth
I can see it
>promise
what?

I really hope it's not holo, she doesn't fit in there at all. She should stick to vshojo/phase where she can continue to make coomergooner content and epic meme stuff while collabing with Bao and Pippa.

>>101088495

>>101086911
Biboo and FWMC absolutely were hidden gems.

Pedo farmer gained attention? Incredible

>>101086826 (OP)
She didn't grow from actually having talent, she grew from "networking" and leeching off the fame and attention from other VTubers. Her first concert was actually genuine, after that it just became a ploy for more fame and to get big indies to join.

damn, it really is just failed aspie seethe that someone from flavr dared to not be a nobody forever

>>101089502
>she grew from "networking" and leeching off the fame and attention from other VTubers.

So like 99% of sucessful vtubers.

>>101086911
CC and GG

>>101088495
Many of the current vtubers don't "fit" if you go by their PL content. They put on a different face and persona for the role.

>>101089889
le lgbtqamnio+ proship dni she/they queen

>>101086826 (OP)
Literally who

>>101091720
>>>/pol/

>>101091832
>>>/lgbt/

>>101086826 (OP)
>>If corpo standards nowadays is really to just know other famous people and have big numbers, corpos are truly doomed.
That's always been the case
>>101086911
>since myth and promise
>Gura, Mumei, IRyS...

>>101091720
Clio?
Lia?

>>101086826 (OP)
That's some machiavellian spirit. I like her already. Hope she joins holo soon.

>>101087246
define big leagues

>>101096926
reliable 4 view corpo that isn't one woman moment away from dying

Corpo that's:
-Intrducing new wave soon
-Willing to hire determined weirdos
-ALL members are participating in Nyana's last concert

>>101089502
not wrong hate to say it.
she is all about climbing the ladder gotta respect the hustle, but now it is time for her to hustle her fans and she is saying goodbye to her fans so she can climb the ladder. do anything for clout.

>>101097053
Do you realize that excludes just about every chuuba?

>>101087709
Proof that she abandoned her community and friends

>>101097161
she is leaving them behind "for the opportunity of a lifetime"

>>101097189
Good for her

is it really leaving them behind if you openly say you're going corpo and drop as many hints as you can without breaking NDA

She could have stayed as Nyana. There is something to be said to starting as a nobody, sticking with that 1 character, and making it with that character. That is the road less traveled. How many vtubers can say they made it while only being the 1 same persona starting from humble 2view? The travelers couldn't make it taking that road, so they had to have the cover machine manufacture them.
She had a really nice niche carved out for herself and was on that road. It is a special road to be on. She could have been Nyana forever and only Nyana. Not I am gonna go play another character somewhere else.

>>101097256
nta but yes it kinda of is. It is never the same. She will be a different character and a different girl with e different chat and different content and different everything.

>>101097189
Again, how is she abandoning her friends and community? If she's moving up in the ladder then no shit she's going to leave her former self into a new one, her old community can still find her again and she hasn't abandoned none of her friends

This happens all the time, wtf are you even smoking with this logic

>>101097362
>How many vtubers can say they made it while only being the 1 same persona starting from humble 2view?
not many. everybody in hololive, niji, phase existed with a prior vtuber/streaming experience

im happy for her she sounds excited

>>101097599
not true. uruka and lia have only ever been uruka and lia they are homegrown. and those are 2 right off the top of my head

I just hope she doesn't forget where she came from and she pays it forward to all the vtubers who gave her the time of day when she was nobody and wanted nothing from you. they helped get you to wherever it is you are going. most vtubers who get a big break forget where they came from.

some of you have wild imaginations

i would wager she is going to V4M. What they provide aligns with what her fans allegedly say she wants
or a new group that promised her the world and she will find out the hard way that when things seem too good to be true, they are.

>>101088651
>FWMC absolutely were hidden gems
That is not even remotely true, they were 100% known

>>101101092
1 guy spamming threads here does not quite mean they were "known"

>>101089502
Is networking not a talent? You can’t really do that if you’re retarded in general. It’s not like people stick around just because audiences overlap a bit or the vtubers tell them to watch x person.

>>101091720
One of us had a stroke, was it you?

>>101097599
>who is Suisei?

>>101101820
having 1500 people show up for your graduation stream! wow what hidden gems and unknown talents!

>>101087114
this,
networking is the greatest method for advancement in any company. you could be the best worker ever but you'll still lose out to someone that more people like.

>>101102556
there is a difference between networking and using someone elses stock.
it is a one way street when it comes to nyana she is an opportunist who uses people to her benefit and personal gain.

>>101102815
>why is she only collabing with these other girls and not me
I believe in you seething femanon, just send her a message

>>101086826 (OP)
It's like any other job, all about knowing people in high places. She collabed with everyone she could and that gave her a ton of networking opportunities. It also helps that she's basically the only one that does big concerts for indies.

>>101103282
She would never return my DM because she has nothing to gain from me sadly

>>101087461
It's a cope. Basically sisters seething that they aren't as likable and approachable. Kinda like a "pickme" oh no! the woman actually talks about things men like? the fucking horror! what man would like that?

>>101101820
>1 guy spamming threads here
>here
this is what happens when your entire worldview is based on a single website

From growing indie to another irrelevant member of Pippa & The 0.6% for no one to care about
Nice "big leagues" lmao

>>101103565
pippa already just got a nepo hire in.
nobody else in phase is nyanas friend

>>101103695
Pippa is bigger than Tenma so she has more influence.

>>101097161
If you followed her when she was a literal nobody and not only when the VShojo orbiters started uplifting her, she was friends with almost every /here/tuber and a lot of the loli community. Now, you'd be lucky if she even invites any of them to her nepoconcerts. I think the only one she actually kept around was Cyana.

>>101103367
exactly. you have nothing.

>>101103335
You mean her concerts where her mod makes all the 3D models and she uses like 1/4th of the 5 donothons she does a year to fund them? Let's also not forget how her concerts started out wholesome and an actual open to all event, then transitioned into big indies only and "what corpo fanbase can I actually leech off of?"

>>101086826 (OP)
she lost me when she publicly collab begged vedal.
i am all for networking, but you look so minor league and jojo doing it that way.

Do you want a meme answer or a serious roadmap to how she succeeded? Because the second one takes effort.

>the sheer fucking salt ITT
Allow me to explain the gato.
Nyana works her ass off, actually likes streaming, and is actually friendly with her own community. Also, she's shrewd as fuck despite the retard act and actually knows how to internet. If you knew her lore, you'd know she's a former Office Lady who watched vtubers on the clock, so you can add professional skills and the ability to resume-build. Oh, and networking.
Nyana is also 1. a vtuber fan and 2. a perfectionist who will be up at odd hours working. Those two combine to actually make good product. There are streamers who don't think they have to stream, there are streamers who snub their own fans, and there are streamers who think the job is just sitting on their ass while people give them money. Nyana is none of those. Nyana actually stresses the fuck out over passion projects. She genuinely suffers for the art in an ocean of generic "HI I'M NEKO NEKONEKO GIVE ME MONEY."
She's also super-engaged with her chat compared to some other streamers her size, genuinely incorporates feedback from her fans without even being asked-to, and appears to actually think about her stream when she isn't streaming. She gives a shit.
The fucking irony of anyone calling her a grifter or fake is insane. She succeeds at doing the same shit the haters do because she actually does it sincerely.
Imagine not getting that.

>>101107902
Kys nyana, stop pretending you're not egosearching and doing damage control.

>>101086911
mythcouncil cohesion was so fucking bland it made NIJISANJI EN look fun by comparison

>>101108125
>this level of seethe
Nobody who was given what she was given did what she did with it. Whatever advantages she has that you are jealous of, she is uniquely good at doing a common thing in an oversaturated space. That works.

It's going to be Vshojo not Holo so who cares and bullet dodged

>>101108492
Nyana, shut the fuck up. Can't wait to see you follow whoreca or fridgelian and sell your roastie to ecelebs for clout.

>>101086826 (OP)
Nyana is a whore with a bf

>>101103695
mom said it's my turn to post the Tenma twitter screenshot from 2022

>>101107902
>works her ass off
Mod makes all her 3D models, hires a company to handle all the 3D concert stuff by using the money from 1/5 donothons she does a year. Pockets the rest of the money.

She's a major grifter who realized she could make a shit ton of money off dudes like you. She cares nothing for community and only getting to sit at the cool kids table. She plays both sides of the coin and can never decide if she wants to be full loli or play the chibidoki act just so she doesn't get kicked out of the big indie club.

>>101103565
>>101108125
>/here/ chuuba that doesn't graduate due to burnout or stagnates as a 1view/2view forever
>manages to get a corpo spot
>damage control
>MUH BIG LEAGUES
>not supporing that /here/ chuuba that actually made it
I can see /asp/ and any other girls or "girls" with deadend (or just plain dead) careers seething from miles away.

>>101112547
Proof?

>>101112612
just listen to this mastermind, she's devious

>>101112588
Why the actual fuck would I support /here/tubers? Nothing good comes out of this shithole

>>101087246
did this bitch really rip off Chibi's cross-eyed big head model?

>>101086826 (OP)
Allow me to explain.
Nyana works her ass off, actually likes streaming, and is actually friendly with her own community. Also, she's shrewd as fuck despite the retard act and actually knows how to internet. If you knew her lore, you'd know she's a former Office Lady who watched vtubers on the clock, so you can add professional skills and the ability to resume-build. Oh, and networking.
Nyana is also 1. a vtuber fan and 2. a perfectionist who will be up at odd hours working. Those two combine to actually make good product. There are streamers who don't think they have to stream, there are streamers who snub their own fans, and there are streamers who think the job is just sitting on their ass while people give them money. Nyana is none of those. Nyana actually stresses the fuck out over passion projects. She genuinely suffers for the art in an ocean of generic "HI I'M NEKO NEKONEKO GIVE ME MONEY."
She's also super-engaged with her chat compared to some other streamers her size, genuinely incorporates feedback from her fans without even being asked-to, and appears to actually think about her stream when she isn't streaming. She gives a shit.
The fucking irony of anyone calling her a grifter or fake is insane. She succeeds at doing the same shit the haters do because she actually does it sincerely.
Imagine not getting that.

>FlaVr groomers seething that someone with actual talent left their clique of groomers and /asp/ rejects
Not surprised

>>101116449
failed groomers are easily 90% of this board's schizos, it's so easy to spot them too

>>101086826 (OP)

>>101087114
She’s a fucking leech

>>101116277
>blah blah blah
nothing is going to save her from her fake ass loli voice I’m sorry

>>101086826 (OP)
Literally never heard about any of these "big 3D concerts"
She's had no lasting impact and just played the lolibait game well enough to make money.

She lolibaited too close to the sun, can't stand all the fucking neckbeards anymore, and is probably now going to Hololive to escape it all.

Pretty shitty to merchandise yourself to hell and back, take people's money, and then disappear though.

>>101086826 (OP)
pure networking and grift
everything this girl says or does is fake and calculated to get more views and presence
she's "friends" with every vtuber in the scene but she'd drop them to get 1 more viewer, the others would also do the same because she doesnt have any actual friends

>>101086826 (OP)
latina power

>>101112547
>Pockets the rest of the money.
eh I am not sure. she is paying bigger names to appear at these "3d concerts" so people will watch them.

be nise

>>101089502
So what is she supposed to do, really? Never associated with anyone else? That's literally how practically all big streamers grow a following anyway. The streamers who started from nothing, were isolated and organically grew a following are a very tiny minority.

>>101122759
have some pride and be less obvious about it like most vtubers

>>101087676

Whatever happened with that? Did she get scammed or actually avoid the trap? That idiocy was when I stopped following Sayu; it became obvious she had terrible judgement.

>>101119638
you're a fucking nigger. loli voices are kino.
Do you think Haachama, Miko, and Luna are shit too because they stream with a loli voice? dumb fuck

>>101122858
it is still around and she is stlll in it. They are hosting a panel at offkai

>>101107902
Ok, but I hate her humor. I hate just about all the "heh I'm an ironic weeb and post /pol/ frog memes" twitch circle vtubers out there, they're all awful and connected.

The path for her joining Phase Connect is she waits to debut as a solo Invader next May, and in the meantime she has been hired to work in a behind the scenes role as an event coordinator. So kinda of like what happened with Dizzy.

There has been no talk of a Gen4 or open auditions for one, so i don't expect to see a full blown new gen until maybe quarter 4 of 2026 at the earliest and even then I don't think Phase should be hiring new gens until there are 4 or 5 graduations and I am not advocating any of their talents to graduate they have a good crew.

Strangly, I think vshojo might be more likely than Phase for all we know Mouse could have taken a liking to her behind the scenes.

>>101123326
Nyana is friends with Filian. Don't Filian and ironmosue dislike eachother over Twitch beef?

>>101123215
admittedly i was only an irregular to her YT streams before she went full throttle on twitch. but i could tell she has a keen sense of timing, cleverness and subtle humor thru the unfiltered adhd spouting. her giggle is also really adorable and despite not having heard in a year i can still imagine it. so yeah dont judge a book by its cover.

for a lot of girls, their dream is to be in a corpo and have genmates and do concerts with them and travel with them and create something special with them. so her being accepted into a corpo of any kind would be a classified as a once in a lifetime opportunity.
i think some people are having wild imaginations with hololive (good for her if she landed that) and i think she would gladly retire nyana for a spot in svp or v4m because she wants to try and live the corpo life. at the end of the day, nyana is free to use ai slop it is not much of an ip, especially when you have the ambitions she has.

>>101123365
Filian has raided IM a few times in the last 12 months so i doubt it

>>101123215
I am straight-up in the "women aren't funny" crowd and Nyana is genuinely funny. It's not just goon meme brainrot, she has comedic timing and delivery and probably could have voiced cartoons in another life.

>>101123580
quite simply I just don't think Nyana is talented enough to get hired in a new Phase Connect gen. FFS Pippa, Tenma, Lia and Uruka would not be hired in Phase Connect if they had to audition for a Gen4 under the current hiring standard. They pretty much got hired because they were the only ones who auditioned so they got the parts.

>FFS Pippa, Tenma, Lia and Uruka would not be hired in Phase Connect if they had to audition for a Gen4 under the current hiring standard.
That is probably true just because the talent pool for auditions is insane now compared to march 2021, but phase connect never even gets to a gen2 if those exact 4 aren't hired at that exact time. even say there is a time machine and lumi took, say, uruka's place in gen1. the company likely doesn't make it.

also it depends on sakana's mindset and how much it has changed. for gen2, invaders2 and gen3 (and clara) it felt like he was intent on hiring mostly (some exceptions) singers for singing projects, and then phase music was created with an official group of all singers, and then it kinda just got dropped cold.
to me it feels like he is kinda fading 2d music, and he is all in on 3d after such a positive experience in new york city last year. if he is intent on fading the 2d singers and going forward with talents who can provide the best 3d idol experience, then nyana has a good chance. this is all headcanon from me btw i am a schizo and i wont apologize

>>101124146
Let's be objective about this. *Somebody* just hired Nyana "did I mention I'm having a 3D concert" Banyana.
I dunno if you're schizo or just asking who'd be in the market for that.

>>101093501
rekt

>>101123904
bait used to be believable

>>101124476
Explain why what I said that is wrong

>>101124530
subjective things like sense of humor aside, her organizational skills are beyond most of the market and she's a better singer and vocalist than everyone except maybe Clara

>>101124917
>she's a better singer and vocalist than everyone except maybe Clara
bait used to be believable

Clara, Lumi, Uruka, Panko, Airi, Eimi, Runie, Shiina, Jelly, Hime, Ember, Erina, Remi, Muyu all clear Nyana as a singer and it is not even remotely close.
If she ever got hired, she isn't getting hired because of singing Phase has more singers than they know what to do with.

>>101124968
also and that doesn't even consider the JPs Michiru is a great singer and I assume Kaledio has some great singers in there

Theres a misconception, her current model/live 2d isnt A.I. slop. She funded it via her donothons and concerts. Her art mama isnt even around anymore so you couldnt get one in a similar style if you wanted. Her original concept and idea was A.I slop, but not how she eventually molded and made it into something of relatively good quality. The O.G. idea was an E-whore, but she became a loli. The ignorance of the Nyana lore shows us we have alot of seething tourists and probably the Babis that ruined /fvr/ here enshitting arguably one of the largest Ws in /here/chuuba history. Just to set the record state with the stale misinformation shit I keep seeing about the A.I. origin story.

>>101086826 (OP)
Seething

Leeching works

>unmitigated salt in the catalog for a /here/tuber who actually made it
Every day the seething femanon phenomenon makes this place more and more unusable

>>101087114
Exactly. Bitches be bitching

perfectly rapeable, 10/10

>>101130185
>actually made it
>probably going to idol
this is making it

>>101132659
does Brave have enough credibility left to pull anyone besides desperate perma-2views? They're not quite on the niji/wactor level yet but every time I see another batch graduation the stories about management get worse

>>101086826 (OP)
she has the absolute worse voice in the whole entire vtuber community like she sounds like she has her jaw wired shut while also having flem stuck in her throat why do you troglodyte SEA monkeys promote people like this?

>>101132840
Brave is running 2 main stage concerts at Offkai this year and has run 3D concerts at other cons. Nyana got rejected by Offkai for her concert because she is a nobody (respectfully) with no real backing. It seems like that is what she might be looking for. She also has Idol girls in her concerts, so she has just as much of a working relationship with Brave as she does Phase Connect. We know Brave Group is trouble, but they can deliever the 2 things Nyana might be after: con appearances and the opportunity for quick and profesional 3D concerts at venues.

Brave hasn't debuted new talents this year yet, and many expect them to have a couple new gens in the fall

>>101112588
>I can see /asp/ and any other girls
Get with the times gramps, it's not /asp/ anymore, it's/xs/

>>101131753
would