I know they're ignorant to a lot of what the other ex-talents have said but this is ridiculous

Source video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJnzgh7Tn_c

Based JP bros. They already knew Doki was a mentally ill BPD princess a year before everyone else did

>>101116161
As opposed to all the other vtubers who are model examples of mental health?

>>101116139 (OP)
>JP opinion on EN drama when 99% of Japanese people get mogged by kindergarden children in terms of English fluency

>>101116139 (OP)
Also some of the comments lol
>"W-why are foreigners so mean to us ;((("
I don't want to generalize, but Japanese people are not the most friendly people to foreigners themselves.

>>101116329
this. they love showing cruelty to hafus. plenty of hafu committed suicide due to bullying. and they definitely hate foreigners thanks to clowns like logan Paul and Jake Paul and nigger somali.

>>101116329
Based. They need to hate foreigners harder.

>>101116139 (OP)
>posting a video from 3 weeks ago
slow day?

why is night media so hellbent on pushing dookieshit anyways? she's always been a hypocritical deranged cunt

>>101116602
that image is a very sad attempt at trying to slander selen

>>101116139 (OP)
kek
He was up to what, 996k? Fucking hilarious how he torpedoed that. And in the end, he never got it.

>>101116139 (OP)
Hey, I remember this guy when I checked the blackstream comments a bit ago.

Dude tried to pretend he was changing his mind, got told two nukes weren't enough, and then immediately said "okay nijisanji was perfect selen is the problem"

>>101116139 (OP)
damn, what on earth were they doing to Ike?

>>101116139 (OP)
These delusional sister hate her and somehow blame her for their waterboy jumping out of their black corpo

>>101116806
JP sisters ever gave a shit about Ike? That's news to me

>>101116139 (OP)
Japan has plenty of experience with deranged menhera like Rushia, Sio, Meiro etc. and won't blindly take the word of a Chinese bpd yab machine over everyone else.

>>101116895
And by "yab machine", you mean you faggots taking small things and trying to blow them up into a huge drama

>>101116945
But she MISSED AN E-MAIL! And swore to do better! That means that Nijisanji was right!

>>101116206
Yes

>>101116945
>small things
Her menhera meltdown at Twitch streamers, her parents, artists, Twitch itself and doing scummy shit like trying to flex her popularity at a rapper way more popular than her are small things?

>>101117064
Yes, anon. Those are small things.
Big things are making smear videos to attack a woman just out of the hospital.

>>101117130
>just out of the hospital
>Been out for two months
Fagoons have a really bad sense of time. But yes, trying to organize a boycott on Twitch, having a melty over a video game, getting kicked out by her parents and the police and picking a fight with xQc before kneeling to him are small now?

>>101117165
Yes, anon. They're small.
Nobody cared about the twitch thing since it was a shitshow and they were in the wrong. Everybody's still friends, xQc was fine playing with/against her in tthe tournament, and the rest is you trying to turn her home life into a yab.

They're small. Big would be pretending to be somebody's friend only to very publicly backstab them and try to sabotage their career. See: Sinder, Vox.

>>101117064
>>101117165
Proof of any of this happening how you claim it does?

>>101116728
I just want to rub this in.

If NijiJP employed a talent that said "two nukes weren't enough" or "praise chairman Xi" or "Kim Jong Un is the rightful ruler of South Korea" then that person would be fired from Nijisanji very quickly.
But the western-equivalent of those inflammatory statements are made every day by NijiEN and they don't fire them. NijiEN members comment on elections, gender politics, race politics. They have mocked America, and Christianity, and white people. It seems strange to employ people who demean the very same culture they are trying to appeal to. For example, imagine if they tried to expand into Indonesia while employing someone who repeatedly mocked Indonesian culture and Indonesian people. It would obviously not work.

NijiEN is not the same as Nijisanji. Japanese management doesn't understand what's going on because of the language barrier and the cultural difference. If they did, those people would have been fired a long time ago.
Uki, Elira, Enna in particular have made very inflammatory comments.

>>101116139 (OP)
Oh no, angry EOP faggot but can only cry on Western image board because they can't speak Japanese

>>101117385
How are gender politics and race politics inflammatory?

>>101116613
>slander is anything I don’t like
Kill yourself

>>101117211
>they were in the wrong
Doki stacking her team ruined the event. xQc, shroud and their fans know it
>xQc was fine playing with/against her in tthe tournament
Yes. xQc is ok with playing a game with someone that someone else invited. What a big gotcha
>Home life
Her accusing her parents of multiple crimes, deleting the post and eventually getting kicked out by the police is a giga yab, retard

>>101117385
This is Ennaschizo btw

>>101117484
least toxic sister

>>101117489
Keep spreading it then.
I'm sure everyone agrees with you that it's a giga yab.
...What do you mean they've already heard it and they don't care?

>>101117541
>They don't care
Have fun with your 3view BPDbird then kek

>>101117458
In the west? Are you serious? That is basically the most red-hot issue in the world. Extremely inflammatory.
But in general, don't you think it's a bad idea to mock and deride a culture that your entire vtuber branch is supposed to be appealing to? Uki's brand of politics is only supported by a small number of very radical people in the city. It would be supported by like...5% of the general population.
The asian equivalent would be like denying Japanese warcrimes. Extremely inflammatory and that talent would be fired immediately.

Most western corporations have a policy of not getting involved in sensitive political matters. Imagine if Nintendo started making political statements, they wouldn't be as big as they are.

>>101117557
Like I said, don't start crying when she goes back to buff games and not Dynasty Warriors part 73

>>101117489
>Doki stacking her team ruined the event
Ah, so you're a retard.
>Getting kicked out by the police
I love reading ignorant anons posts.

>>101117639
>She wasn't getting kicked out by the police. She was just avoiding them and was "escorted" out of the place by the police because her mom was running on all fours and trying to rip out her jugular
Classic fagoon seethe

>>101117564
>That is basically the most red-hot issue in the world.
That wouldn't make it inflammatory, at all, unless you genuinely believe that the only reason people support feminism is to make you mad.
>Uki's brand of politics is only supported by a small number of very radical people in the city. It would be supported by like...5% of the general population.
What are Uki's "brand of politics" that are so extreme that only "5% of the general population" would stand behind them?
>The asian equivalent would be like denying Japanese warcrimes.
I think there is an obvious categorical gap between the two topics.
If we're talking functionality, it still doesn't hold up.
Saying you're fine with gay people may lose you subscribers, but it wouldn't hurt the brand all that much. At worst, you're virtue signalling too hard.
Denying war crimes, however, is a whole another thing that could require an official apology and a company-wide notice. The brand is tainted, since you've insulted not the feelings of culture warriors, but the dignity and history of an entire people.

>>101117854
>What are Uki's "brand of politics" that are so extreme that only "5% of the general population" would stand behind them?
Anon he keeps making racist jokes against white people and talking about how much he hates them.
These aren't jokes. He's talking about being uncomfortable just being around old white couples and trying to pass it off as normal. He jabs at them every chance he gets.
This is genuine, actual racism being put on a pedestal.

>>101117854
>Saying you're fine with gay people may lose you subscribers, but it wouldn't hurt the brand all that much. At worst, you're virtue signalling too hard.
Anon this is the kind of shit even big flesh streamers get cancelled for.
You keep politics and racial shit out of your content or you'll eventually get destroyed by it.
It's extremely inflammatory and will start fights no matter which side you're on.

>>101117956
>Anon this is the kind of shit even big flesh streamers get cancelled for.
... for example?

>>101117854
>That wouldn't make it inflammatory, at all
Oh it certainly would. NijiEN talents have said it's wrong to assume a child's gender, for example. That sounds pretty unpopular to me, and like something a professional organization should not be representing their brand with.
ANY sort of political statement, from any side, should not be permitted. They should completely stay away from those issues and focus on being an entertainment company. Otherwise they have 0 chance of ever going mainstream. Again, imagine if Nintendo started mouthing far-left, or far-right slogans in their commercials. They would not be a mainstream brand.
Yes feminism too, it's a social and political issue and the livers should not be permitted to make comments on it.
>What are Uki's "brand of politics" that are so extreme that only "5% of the general population" would stand behind them?
Uki is a transgender man who was posting suicide hotlines on his main account when Donald Trump won the presidency. He's made some extremely radical anti-white and anti-American political statements that are very inflammatory. He claims that gay people are under threat of extermination and have to fight at all costs to survive. Why is he saying these things without any management oversight?
>Saying you're fine with gay people may lose you subscribers, but it wouldn't hurt the brand all that much.
Do you think that bashing Christianity is probably a bad idea in an overwhelmingly-christian country? That's not a smart move for a corporation, you just alienated most of the population against you. Why would you do that? Notice how almost no other corporation is doing that.
>This is genuine, actual racism being put on a pedestal.
That would be Uki actually

>>101117975
If you lack even a smidge of awareness about Hasan Piker, you're either playing coy or genuinely unaware

>>101117975
https://www.businessinsider.com/4conner-logs-drama-lsf-discord-twitch-deletes-social-media-racist-2021-2

Doki faggot
Stop coping

>>101117697
>puts words in other people's mouths to refute points no one ever stated to win arguments with shadows

Jesus the schizo

>>101117975
JonTron got dropped from just about everything after making a few schizo political tweets. Took him a while to recover, and even then he's nowhere the star he was before.

>>101118037
>extremely radical anti-white and anti-American political statements that are very inflammatory.
Dude cried when old people walked by him. What exactly is “extremely radical” about this? And you know people are allowed to hate the president, right? Trannies and other fags are very reactive, nothing wrong with linking the suicide hotline if it has the possibility of helping someone

>>101118080
>you know people are allowed to hate the president, right?
If a Japanese liver was making blatant political statements about upcoming Japanese elections, they would be fired pretty fast. But Japanese management has no idea what's going on in NijiEN because of the language barrier.

>>101118097
Your hypothetical doesn’t work because Uki is, in fact, not a Japanese liver. Uki also, from what I remember, never directly mentioned the president or the election so your point is entirely moot.

>>101118037
>NijiEN talents have said it's wrong to assume a child's gender, for example.
That's not inflammatory. That's just,
>pretty unpopular
Inflammatory isn't just "opinion that I don't like", it has to show a target of aggression.
An inflammatory version of that statement could be,
>Most people are so ignorant, they think they're able to assume a child's gender.
And look, I am not saying that Uki isn't bigoted, I've never watched a single video of him until now.
I just chimed in because the way you mentioned,
>gender politics
>race politics
made it sound like you were addressing talents for making milquetoast libtard tweets like "black lives matter".

>>101118051
Hasan Piker was suspended on Twitch for defending using racial slurs against white people.
How is that comparable to saying you support LGBT rights?

Always remember no matter how hard you want to blame Doki it was management themselves being a collosal fuck up on handling the termination.

>>101118356
>Management shouldn't have explained that she's going to release her blackmail posts and why she's getting fired
Fagoons on loop

>>101118270
>NijiEN talents have said it's wrong to assume a child's gender
>That's not inflammatory.
yes it is. That is an extremely divisive political issue. In fact it's a VERY unpopular issue especially in America.
>Inflammatory isn't just "opinion that I don't like"
No inflammatory is a very divisive political issue that causes a lot of reaction. Such as, gender/race/religion.
>made it sound like you were addressing talents for making milquetoast libtard tweets like "black lives matter".
That movement burned down many cities and is not "milquetoast. That's a radical left wing movement that is highly unpopular. Nijisanji is supposed to be a big mainstream entertainment company. For such a company to be taking extreme political stances is not normal or acceptable in the west.

>>101118403
>burned down many cities
What cities, Anon? And I swear to fucking god if you say Minneapolis, I’m going to rape you.

>>101118403
I disagree with everything you've said, but I don't think this discussion will go anywhere so let's end it here.

>>101118385
Yeah management totally nailed their message. A nail into every Niji ENs face for how badly they did it lol

>>101118428
If you live in the center of a big city, you are in a bubble. Everyone around you agrees with you.
But you don't realize, those opinions are extremely radical and are not normal.

The japanese equivalent would be "Japan should attack Pearl Harbor again", or "Japanese culture is based on hating outsiders" or "Japan should invade Korea". These are very contentious political issues, and if a Nijisanji member said these things in Japanese they would be let go from the company.
But NijiEN says very extremely and divive political statements, and alienates lots of people. That is extremely bad for their brand, and it's one of the big reasons they're very unpopular.

Even something like, posting Pride flags, and watching Gay movies for June, is filtering large numbers of people. It's very bad for their business. They don't understand because they don't get the culture here.
Generally a business wants to avoid any association with politics, left or right.

>>101118385
Remind me again what was the standard cope response for doing something stupid like telling everyone she was harassed by her colleagues again?

>>101118385
Yes. Management shouldn't have lied about it.
Glad we agree

>>101118532
Answer my fucking question, Anon. What cites were burned down?

>>101118546
That she was rocking the boat and should've just taken it to not disturb Vox.

>>101118546
Either lying about Nijisanji confirming it first or call you subhuman for suggesting that having others question you maybe isn't harassment

>>101118578
No Niji defender to this day has agreed the fault ultimately lies on management with how unprofessional the termination process was.

>>101118569
You are a radical left wing person, intent on pushing your radical politics in this thread.
But that has nothing to do with the issue, which is Nijisanji EN filtering massive numbers of people by letting their livers take political stances. Something that the Japanese branch would not tolerate.

There are many reasons why NijiEN is very unpopular, this is one of them.
If Nijisanji permitted its talents to praise Communism and radical feminism, that would cause a scandal and it would kill their business.

>>101118628
Cool, so no cities were burned down then; ergo, your entire argument about their comments being inflammatory is completely baseless.

>>101118693
Which comment in particular though? They've said quite a lot
- it's wrong to "assume a child's gender"
- mocking christianity and jesus
- mocking the president and his policies
- racist comments
- mocking certain regional groups, one member frequently stereotypes southerners calling them inbred
- pushing gay issues very hard
- pushing radical feminism

All of this is very divisive in the west. A corporation should not take political stances, and this is harming NijEN's popularity. The only reason this is allowed is because Japanese management doesn't realize how bad this is.

>>101118802
I forgot to mention
They all mock America as a country, and are very harsh on Americans and negative on Americans. That is not popular at all.

Imagine if a group of Chinese formed a japanese vtuber branch, and all their members mocked japan constantly. It wouldn't be popular.
Assassins Creed Shadows was not popular

>>101118802
>Which comment in particular though?
Pick your favorite, I guess. Normal people have enough agency to watch something else if they dislike the comments streamers make.
>A corporation should not take political stances, and this is harming NijEN's popularity.
The corporation can do whatever the fuck it wants to as long as it isn’t actively committing crimes. NijiEN is losing popularity because the livers are boring and Niji has terrible management. You are attributing Nijis decline to “woke propaganda” when the reality is that Niji just sucks at being a talent agency for non Japanese streamers

>>101118915
>Normal people have enough agency to watch something else if they dislike the comments streamers make.
that's exactly what they're doing. If Nijisanji corporate in Japan figured out how radical the EN branch was with political statements, they would be furious.
>The corporation can do whatever the fuck it wants to
But they can't make people watch them. They wonder why their EN branch only has popular in Asia, and barely any Western people even watch them? A good place to start would be the radical political statements.
The fact that this is permitted also suggests that management is extremely incompetent.

Jannies. This is a pol thread. Do your fucking job

>>101118947
> Nijisanji corporate in Japan figured out how radical the EN branch was with political statements, they would be furious.
Why are you assuming they done already know? Niji and its livers know it’s fanbase and knows that those kind of statements are ok to make. Why do YOU get to police what they say? What makes YOU the authority when it comes to their streaming content?

>>101116161
FPBP

>>101118982
>Why are you assuming they done already know?
Because these are the same people who hired Japanese speaking talents in the EN branch, and expected things to go smoothly. The same people that thought bringing in Kuzuha and Kanae would boost the popularity of the AX concert, since they assume everyone in America knows Kuzuha and Kanae.

They don't understand what's going on. There is a huge language and cultural barrier.
That's why I'm using analogies. The type of statements that NijiEN makes regularly, would be like a Japanese liver that frequently praised Kim Jong Un. Such a liver would be fired very quickly in the Japanse branch, so why is NijiEN letting this happen?

>>101119029
>They don't understand what's going on. There is a huge language and cultural barrier.
Ah the problems of HoloEN, they just have it in a lesser scale and degree

>>101119029
>thought bringing in Kuzuha and Kanae would boost the popularity of the AX concert
And that would have been a valid strategy, and possibly entirely unneeded, had Niji not ruined their public image for that sake of firing Selen. NijiEN having woke political ideologies is not what is killing the branch, it’s the repeated failures of Nijisanji management. The fanbase has simply lost trust in the company to properly care and support its livers. Simple as that.
>like a Japanese liver that frequently praised Kim Jong Un.
You can’t be serious right? I pray to god you’re just using that as a strawman…

>>101119159
>And that would have been a valid strategy
No it wouldn't, because NOBODY in America knows who the fuck Kuzuha and Kanae is. Fucking Risu has more popularity in America than those guys.
But the Japanese executives assume everyone knows them, because the entire world is japan.

>You can’t be serious right?
No I'm absolutely serious. Imagine if a Japanese talent was praising communism, or commenting on Japanese elections. They would be fired pretty quickly.
But that's the kind of political statement NijiEN makes every day, and it's allowed. That's a big part of the reason that NijiEN is alienating people.
In fact to be honest with you, vtuber fans in the west tend to be very right wing, not left wing
But nobody wants a vtuber to be talking politics. They are watching vtubers to get away from politics and relax.

Any normal company in America would not allow political statements. It's a very easy rule, and almost every mainstream company has it.

>>101119232
>because NOBODY in America knows who the fuck Kuzuha and Kanae is
I don't even watch Niji and I know who they are. They rival Holos in popularity and have interacted with the girls numerous times.
>Imagine if a Japanese talent was praising communism, or commenting on Japanese elections
Has this ever happened? No? Then you need to stop making up hypotheticals to validate your problems with NijiEN being too woke.
>But nobody wants a vtuber to be talking politics.
Again. You are attributing your own wants and needs onto others. You don't get to decide what content other people want to consume.
>Any normal company in America would not allow political statements
Guess we're just going to conveniently forget that the largest companies in the US have changed their logos for pride month this past decade.

>>101119232
>vtuber fans in the west tend to be very right wing, not left wing
that is just representative of the demographic desu, gen z has swung to the right pretty heavily in the last 4 years

>>101118097
Roa literally talked about supporting Abe back when she was streaming retard.

>>101118881
I don’t even like Uki and co but they’re your average cliquey Asian Americans and Canadians. You have no idea how often they mock white America in general kek does that bother you brownskin?

Imagine having to crawl through the court of public opinion of JOP corpodrones to try and get a PR win on a Sogdian trade route management forum.

>>101116139 (OP)
why does every nijisister antiing someone else video always follow the same mass produced structure?

>>101116387
They have hated foreigners long before those two were even conceived, anon.

>>101117385
>If NijiJP employed a talent that said "two nukes weren't enough" or "praise chairman Xi" or "Kim Jong Un is the rightful ruler of South Korea" then that person would be fired from Nijisanji very quickly.

>>101117489
>D-doki stacking her t-team...
As opposed to everyone else who also did the same but weren't swept up in a lazy-ass last-minute rule change? Are you seriously trying to defend a rugpull rule change? How fucking stupid are you nigger?
>"Her accusing her parents of multiple crimes, deleting the post and eventually getting kicked out by the police is a giga yab, retard"
>Anon is illiterate
Lol. How the fuck did you read the available information and somehow reach the complete opposite conclusions to what was presented? Lmao she got a friend to call the police and you managed to turn that into "the police kicked her out"
>B-but she accused her parents of crimes!
Crimes they, as far as you know, have actually committed. But you just decided to pick a side and insist she is lying without any proof. Good job retard.

>>101118428
>>101118569
Figurative language jackass.
Private property was burned under the pretense of collective justice dopamine, and the result was granting those riots and it's consequences, a sense of legitimacy.
Liberal, marxist, progressive people everywhere in the west started to support this newest "movement born" under rioting and destruction of both public and private property (and a guy dying from overdose, while the media headlined as "police violence"), just to "own le chuds".

The government admnistration who should've sent the national guard to shutdown the violent rioting? Zero reaction, nothing.
Without any proper issue from the govt side, the cops were put between a rock and a hard place, if they reacted anywhere to the rioting, phone cameras would record their every action, giving the perfect democrat narrative to stamp their "violent baddies repressing the poor peaceful protesters" headline.

>>101120151
>W-well people need to not be so upset at the boot on their necks! You know, America was founded on the idea of pacifism in the face of oppression!
Where you from, China? There is no fucking way an American would believe the bile you just spewed.

>>101120151
>property was burned under the pretense of collective justice dopamine, and the result was granting those riots and it's consequences, a sense of legitimacy

>>101117564
it's not, it's the belief of the establishment
it might drive the chuds away but they have no presence in the fanbase

>>101116139 (OP)
Niji's reputation has always been bad especially overseas.
Mostly because of their fans, then the company turned to shit too.
Then they keep getting shittier
The term "ni gger sanji" was created way before the whole Selen shitstorm.

>>101116139 (OP)
>still believing doki was innocent

>>101116139 (OP)
i wish /ourguy/ never got caught

>>101116139 (OP)
Doki love

People still think Niji management wasn't the worst offender?

>>101129217
Name one thing they actually did wrong

>>101116139 (OP)
They probably just hate her because she's Chinese

>>101116206
Fuckin this. You pretty much have to fail a psych evaluation in order to be a vtuber

>>101116161
But everybody already knew that. It was posted with receipts in all the threads, all the evidence, everything. People make the conscious decision to either ignore it or downplay it. There is no opportunity to later say they didn't know.