The only former HoloEN I respect.

me too anon tormenting my oshi by having her watch twilight was the greatest thing she could have done

>>101246650 (OP)
her and sana are the only en graduations i felt anything for

>>101246650 (OP)
Her graduation isn't a Grudge-uation. I like that she put finality unto it and that she feels like it is a betrayal to hoomans to continue as someone else.

And perhaps, since YAGOO said that you could always come back. I hope she recovers.

Her and Shion made clean breaks. I hope you guys move on too.

>>101246650 (OP)
and Sana

>>101246964
>Her graduation isn't a Grudge-uation
She shit on Cover just as much as anyone else

>>101246964
>she feels like it is a betrayal to hoomans to continue as someone else
Bull.Fucking.Shit. these past 2 months I wanted her back more than anything else in the world. I loved my girl, not the fucking corpo.

>>101247840
Not really. Sure there were disagreements, but Mumei didn't actually go scorched earth on them. The fact that she's honoring her own decision to move on and not "reincarnate" is enough to call her "Not like the others" who had the gall to use their popularity as their holo characters and pied-piper their audiences to their new gig.

>>101246964
>she feels like it is a betrayal to hoomans to continue as someone else.
now THERE's some insanity.

>>101248488
Or maybe they liked their job but not dealing with shitty management?>>101248514
It wouldn't be a betrayal of she came back.

>>101248488
Anon it's a fucking job, not a blood pact or some kind of martyr system.

>>101248652
It is, but getting aspects of what you used to be in a shameless bid to lure your fans? And voice and personality are not what I mean.

This is why I adore what Nimi did compared to what Doob and Saba are doing. Nimi is a whole character separate from Fauna and I like her more than I ever liked Fauna.

>>101246964
If she wanted to come back, she would have taken affiliate deal, not full on graduation.

>>101246964
Kill yourself you LARPing corpocuck. You don’t know anything about Mumei, you just want to use her to shit on her friends.

>>101248742
Nimi is a whole character separate from Fauna and I like her more than I ever liked Fauna.
Anon she has the exact same artist. If anything, Dooby wentdown a COMPLETELY different path focusing on 3D without even a 2D model.

It's a career, anon. They WANT people to watch them. That's the whole point of joining holo in the first place.
There's no such thing as "betrayal" here. They didn't like their job, so they left. It's that simple. It's still the person making the content that we want to see, so we watch. We liked what they did before, so we'll like what they do now.

>>101248742
>Amelia Watson was a time traveling detective
>Dooby is a train conductor
"They're the same character"

>>101248791
dude, she probably felt like there was no hope of curing her sickness in a way that would be fast enough. She probably was upset about not being able to go 100% and taking the affiliate deal would be a too shameful and would likely waste both parties' time.

>>101246650 (OP)
I just keep imagining that she has a bf now and dying on the inside. Why did she have to be so perfect. Fuck i dont wanna get cucked

>>101248836
>time traveller
>does not have a train
GREAT SCOTT

>>101247840
She never went out of her way to sabotage new gens like Gura

>>101248854
She's terrible at maintaining relationships, so probably not.

>>101246650 (OP)
It is mandatory to respect the dead.

>>101246650 (OP)
>>101248935

>>101248971
>If I do things I must do it at 100% capacity and capability.
>SHE HATES HER FANS!
If anything she respects her fans by setting standards.

I never said anything about 100%
>>101249001
>If anything she respects her fans by setting standards
If she respects her fans she'd have replies enabled. Bitch quit as soon as she was done school.

>>101249001
>Mumei hates streaming
>Mumei hates her fans
>Mumei’s gone as soon as she graduates college
All turned out to be true

>>101249076
the first standard is to treat her like Shachi and that she's made her decision and it's okay to move on. You can help her get that passion again by not being an idiot who's trying to get her to come back out of spite.

>>101249136
You're replying to a schizo. And she will get her passion back. Hoomans just need to be patient.

>>101249136
So does she regret hololive in some capacity if she really wants to make that distinction?

>>101249223
She doesn't. She's happy to have been there. But the decks were stacked against her, and I'm not talking about any of the company stuff. It's pretty clear by now, that her health is her #1 priority.

Notice that more members were involved and Mumei seeked company from more members, to the point that her finale was EN members singing Mumei. Compared to both Gura and Fauna, she is missed dearly.

>>101249292
Okay.
1. I guess she has her own reasons for wanting ti be separated.
2. Stop shitting on Gura and Fauna, you spent this whole thread doing that, and Mumei wouldn't want that.

>>101249327
it's not a diss, it's an observation. I quite like what Nimi is doing. People who call Nimi just like fauna are wrong. There's a slight spunk and energy that Nimi has over Fauna and I respect her for not being original with her new model and even the characterization of her exudes smugness compared to the "Nice" Fauna. Saba, from her actions recently makes me weary, I admit, but I'm not judging her until she debuts.

>>101249292
active members reminisce about Fauna more often than Mumei.

>>101249397
They way you worded it made it sound like you were giving them shit. Also can you explain how Dooby isn't like Nimi in terms of being a new character?

>>101248652
Funny, because corpos are exactly like cultists

>>101249446
Well, look at dooby. Dooby is literally Ame in another Artstyle with a tail and different costume. The basic silhouette is still there. This is like if DD resurfaced with Pink hair, red eyes and would call herself Charon's assistant.

>>101246964
batshit insane statement made out of incomplete information and willful ignorance

>>101249525
Pop Quiz! Can you find Ame?

>>101249446
Dude, you're splitting hajrs and 99% of her fans do not care. They're just happy she's making content.

>>101248971
>great fanbase
>hoomans
?????

>>101249755
first and third look like the same character except for the tail

>>101249525
>>101249823
Dude, you're splitting hairs and 99% of her fans do not care. They're just happy she's making content.

>>101248791
Affiliate deal doesn't mean shit. Did Ame do anything? No

>>101249830
Like I said. I have no problem with Doob initially. other anon just asked me what made her different from how Nimi did her character.

>>101249792
Actual hoomans are pretty good, vt global posters aside

>>101247400
>Shion
>he doesn't know
Kek retard.

>>101249792
It's half right at least.

>>101249525
Nigga, Nimi is literally made by asagi mama, is literally Fauna with other colors and ears, it's the same shit but with shorter hair, you don't even know what the fuck are you talking about. Dooby showed in a member's stream and her character is literally the one that she had before being Ame, but she changed some things, and the vibes are completely different, Ame looked like a mysterious smart girl and Dooby like she's dumb (the ahoge and face) and she looks like a free spirit girl (she has a fucking potato on her forearm), even normal people stopped looking at her as a hidden genius and most of her fanart shows her as a weirdo schizo girl, she actually made a new model that looks like a 360° of what she was, even the colors that she uses are different, according to her she's a green girl and her brand is all full of green, but she doesn't mind if people use also a yellow heart besides the green one. If something the chibi Nimi was actually something really different from Fauna, but that little nigga died

>>101248935
Wrong, my father used to abuse me and his death doesn't erase the past.

>>101249961
>Actual hoomans
I think this logic could apply to most fanbases.

>>101248878
>sabotage new gens
Explain

>>101250584
Overlapping biboo when she was starting out

>>101250584
sabatage for short

>>101246650 (OP)
Thumbnail looks like Jesus.

>>101250624
>>101250649
If you're going to to keep hating on Saba then I'm going to keep saying Shachi is autistic.

>>101250932
puns aren't hating

>>101250908
You know what Jesus did after some time? He came back.

>>101246650 (OP)
If she appears within 18 months she’s a grifting whore, anything after that and I’m not bothered

>>101246650 (OP)
Once she comes back, you'll take it back

>>101248971
>Sana
>Hates the sanalites
Wrong and retarded. Sana loves us

>>101251505
don't forget to buy the next chinese plastic from hololive

>>101246650 (OP)
Your respect isn't worth shit.

>>101252897
didnt she fake back hort and graduate though ...

>>101248488
It really is sad, isn't it? As much as people want to argue that they love the voice and not the character, that's just it. Vtubing was supposed to be about bringing these characters to life, and that kind of behavior disrespects what that means. It disrespects the character as its own unique entity, and it undermines all their future work playing ostensibly new characters but still the same character wink-wink nudge-nudge. It's really disappointing and makes vtubing seem like a boring facade for flesh streamers that just want to hide their face.

>>101251505
There won't be Promise left by that time.

>>101250584
they're refeerring to the fact despite only streaming once every century gura never failed to overlap new gens

>>101248791
She's done with vtubing, not hololive. Not as a streamer/performer, because she has a different career path she wants to pursue.

>>101246650 (OP)
Is she gone for good?

>>101258587
Maybe...

>>101253813
>It's really disappointing and makes vtubing seem like a boring facade for flesh streamers that just want to hide their face.
because it always was just that