This is it Marine, no stream before the month ends = cancel all merch preorders

I almost already moved on mentally anyway

yes im salty

just cancel it now, you don't need to announce your departure this isn't an airport

>>101324238
I know Ao browses yankee sm and informs Marine about everything

>>101324222 (OP)

>>101324589
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>101324222 (OP)
Nobody cares nijinigger

>>101325492
cope and seethe, she's graduating next year

>>101324222 (OP)
Nobody cares about your mental status cuck

>>101327216
you just did, thanks for your concern

>>101324222 (OP)
Just oshihen dude, it will be much better for your mental health, if she doesn't care about her fans why the fuck should I care about her.
Now I am very happy with my oshi as she streams often and genuinely cares about her fans.

>>101324589
It's this creature's fault that Marine became the lesbiatron 3000

>>101328284
More like the No Show 5000
I really hope she get run over by a truck

>>101328281
Already did, switched to Nene and Korone but the salt that I lack their merch while im swimming in Marine merch is infuriating.

Still kinda like her but I feel more hostility towards here than i like her so that sucks but eh, it is what it is

>>101328579
Auction it on eBay or search on discord or something for someone who will buy it from you and with the money buy Nene and Koro san merchandise.
>Still kinda like her but I feel more hostility towards here than i like her so that sucks but eh, it is what it is
I don't really feel anything for her anymore, she's just another Holomem to me, it just frustrates me to think of all the years I wasted supporting her so that in the end she would rather kill her career because of a talentless whore.

>>101329864
>it just frustrates me to think of all the years I wasted supporting her so that in the end she would rather kill her career because of a talentless whore.


Ao is ofc a big factor but its mostly Marine's fault. Even after proving herself all the time she still seems insecure and weak mentally. And that's okay, to a certain extent, weve reached unhealthy levels of it last year + Ao drama and im kinda done.

In the end, im not paid to support grown ass rich woman because she cant deal with herself.

>>101329935
I honestly think the healthiest thing for her to do is to graduate and disappear from the public eye (If that is what really stresses her out that much), it would also be the fairest thing for the fans who have been waiting for years now for her to come back to full streaming and she never will.
Then she can spend all the time she wants with her pet and the fans can move on completely to someone else without feeling like they abandoned her, the only loser would be Cover, but fuck them after doing the bare minimum for their talents and causing so many graduations recently.

>>101330231
That would mean giving up tons of money.

>>101330231
thats fair and good solution. I of course still would be sad but 2 years ago id be devastated. Now she's like Gura was. seemingly there but not really.

>>101330474
If the only reason why she is still in Hololive is money then it further proves my point.
At least in the end Gura did the honourable thing, quit despite the money and stop giving false hope to the fans, it's her problem if she does it as an independent.
>>101330501
>Now she's like Gura was. seemingly there but not really.
The parallels between the two are by no means coincidental, both reach the top and never stream again often, both develop mental/health problems as a result, and show signs of extreme burnout.
Cover must be doing something to fuck over their top talent and they still haven't learned not to do it,

>>101330757
It really makes you go back and reflect on the sheer relief that Sora and Fubuki had and expressed on stream when they each got surpassed and the heavy burden of being #1 was no longer rest upon their shoulders

>>101330757
I remember Pekora talking about how she feels like a bird in a cage back when she was the number one JP member. Heavy is the head that wears the crown it seems

>>101330757
>Gura did the honorable thing.
Gura did the same. Barely stream for years and graduate. She was blue balling her fans and you call that honorable. Do not make me laugh anon

>>101324222 (OP)
There's going to be a HP shill stream with Luna, which doesn't count.

>>101329935
Ao is the biggest factor. Marine has been pretty bad for years now but it's only after meeting Ao that she went all in on acting like this and cut off anyone that doesn't affirm her.

>>101332829
That's right, it's so bad that Marine doesn't hang out with anyone from Hololive anymore and she doesn't even get invited to events or collabs, it's practically as if she's no longer part of the company.

>>101332139
I mean, Gura let her fans down for years yes but it seems plausible that Cover was holding her back at the company by having her personal projects on hold for years and proof of that is how her last Orisong (which was made with DMC's producer), which was her most beloved project, wasn't released until the eve of her graduation.

>>101333889
Do you really think they haven't held back anything from Marine? The company being shit doesn't justify punishing the fans.

>>101334195
marine was a office lady at an actual black company she'd stay at hololive no matter what

>>101334325
Her recent behavior has been making me doubt that. She clearly doesn't value hololive or see it as a good job.

>>101334412
Neither the fans

>>101334412
She does value Hololive and think is a good job, the lack of streaming doesn't mean she doesn't like her place.
That's exactly why she isn't graduating.

Where else she is going to be payed for doing ego proyects and taking it easy?

>>101334670
Not doing the job means she doesn't like it. She's not leaving because she found a source of huge passive income. She barely needs to do anything to get good money.
>Where else she is going to be payed for doing ego proyects
All of the ones she has done to date are remains of the time when she did stream and enjoy being in hololive. I have no idea how she's going to make more songs with no material.

I lost interest in her as a streamer for years now. She's been mentally checked out from streaming since like 2022.
I still enjoy the music, utawaku and enjoyed her concert, but don't bother with the rest. I think she's good enough to be enjoyed in that way, her artistic output is genuinelly good.
Find someone else for your streaming needs.

>>101334775
She is doing the job. Just because it's not the part of the job you as a fan would enjoy doesn't mean she doesn't enjoy the rest.

Marine was burned out from streaming long before Ao. She started focusing in mainstream, soft proyects and sponsors since 2023.

>>101335736
She is doing the bare minimum like a worker who is not satisfied with their job. If she enjoyed it and was just tired of streaming she would be doing more of that other content, but she's not even doing that. She literally admitted all of this and said she would stream more this year.
I don't get why you're denying any of this.

>>101328579
Fine, give me her merch you fickle weakling.

>>101335981
They are the same kind of "fans" who enabled Gura for years and always made excuses for her every time they were ghosted.
If they were really fans they would demand that at least she give the reasons why she is absent for so long, instead she says nothing and the fans keep quiet and try to justify it.

How fucking hard is it to stream a vidya for 2 hours 2 or 3 times a week and keep your fans happy but I guess that must be very difficult and tiring.
Jesus, these women don't know how easy they fucking have it.

>>101336258
It wouldn't be as bad if she just said nothing, but she keeps saying that she wants to stream and is going to stream more, says there will be periodic collabs with X holo, then does none of these things she talked about and comes back crying that anytime she speaks people start expecting things from her.

Marine doesn't like the games that her peers like.
She gets bored of Minecraft, MonHun and games like dark souls

She likes games like stardew Valley and animal Crossing where she can just do whatever TF she wants and be autistic decorating a room for 3 hours but nobody in holo cares about that

>>101336424
>She likes games like stardew Valley and animal Crossing where she can just do whatever TF she wants and be autistic decorating a room for 3 hours but nobody in holo cares about that
Do you only watch EN or something? Bunch of holos have been playing games like these on and off.
Also she was massively into ARK and was one of the holos that initially wanted holo RUST years before it actually happened.

>>101324222 (OP)
How many threads have you made like this again? Also please show proof that you actually preordered merch, watch her streams and have membership to even take you seriously.

>>101333796
>That's right, it's so bad that Marine doesn't hang out with anyone from Hololive anymore and she doesn't even get invited to events or collabs, it's practically as if she's no longer part of the company.

She wasnt even in a stream wth Peko Noel Flare.

I guess Ao didnt like the game so Marine wasnt allowed to play it with the rest of her genmates

>>101336424
>Marine doesn't like the games that her peers like.

Mio for the longest time streamed shit nobody else streamed, indie games and she wasnt kicked out of the company.
Marine is for sure free to stream what she enjoys. Thing is, she just doesnt.

>>101337196
Wont show membership cos i no longer pay for it (why would i). Also wont post "shrine" as then id be indentified easily, but here's my latest preorder

Satisfied now, nigger?

>>101337196
Why do you always ask for proof when you're just going to claim it's either fake or stolen or just ignore it?

>>101337614
posted anyway, i like to see him seethe

>>101324222 (OP)
i dont really get her appeal, are men really attracted to openly slutty/horny women? I feel that would be a turnoff for most men but I guess she could fill a niche

>>101324222 (OP)
you can't cancel merch preorders you poorfag larping retard

>>101338820
look at this poor fuck only buying anniversary or birthday merch LMAO

If you did you'd know you can cancel preorders in normal stores and you can also always chargeback

>>101338573
she was funny as she always sounded like a virgin cosplaying a slut and its funny when woman does it.

>>101338820
The hololive shop is not the only place that sells merch. I don't know about OP but I cancelled by Marine figure pre-orders on amiami that I had ordered when she made it seem like she's finally trying to come back to regular activities after her sololive.

Marine does more in a single month than Gura did in an entire year. Please don't compare my wife to that lazy retard.

>>101339332
fair, but situation is still very much the same

>>101337418
Same thing happened with MonHun, she played it once with the 3rd gen and then abandoned it to run off and do a bunch of collabs with the leech.
Honestly it doesn't surprise me how Peko, Noel or Flare don’t invite her to anything or even talk to her anymore.

>>101337543
Spend almost 600usd on someone you don't even like anymore, cancel that dude and invest it in someone who will appreciate it or buy something that will make you happier.

>>101342264
issue is these figures are genuinely cool even if you ignore its a vtuber

>Schizo posting about 3rdGen again
>Totally ignoring that ERN only accepts up to 3 players

>>101339272
amiami, per their TOS, does not allow cancellations. Can you still get one? It depends. But no, amiami does not allow order cancellation.

>>101338922
>look at this poor fuck only buying anniversary or birthday merch LMAO
The merch items that offer the biggest cut to your oshi, not that you care since you hate your oshi clearly.
>If you did you'd know you can cancel preorders in normal stores
The overwhelming majority (over 99%) of Japanese stores offer either, no way to cancel an order, or will ban cancellation in principal, yet still conditionally allow cancellations when asked (meaning you will maybe get a one time exception).
>and you can also always chargeback
Gets you immediately banned from ever placing an order.

You're an idiot.

>>101339401
How fucking DARE you put tits on ao, you cishet incel chud.

>>101324222 (OP)
She just tweeted about feeling like a god cos cover's going after the antis. We gonn get that "married to blue/preganante" announcement soon, kek

>>101343797
>She just tweeted about feeling like a god cos cover's going after the antis.
>Implying this is ever a bad thing

>>101343797
That's not what the tweet says, retard.

>>101343797
It's so bad that even Japanese fans are making the connection between the Cover announcement and this tweet.

>>101324589
>>101339401
Fuckin disgusting leech

less merch for you means more for us, i'll keep on listening to her music and watching her future content thanks

>>101345167
> and watching her future content thanks
What future content? She hasn't done jackshit this whole year, the MV she released months ago was already being made since last year and the song had already been recorded for about a year.
She seems to be more busy hunting down antis than giving new content to her fans.

>>101345885
If you have a Kumarine plushie and the Hoodie from the 2021 birthday summer merch pls send it to me, I couldn't get those.

>>101343797
Ohnnonono ichikeks they are really getting married and getting a baby via artificial insemination it's so over

>>101348007
Is same-sex marriage legal in Japan to begin with, let alone adoption/child birth via artificial insemination?

>>101343361
>amiami, per their TOS, does not allow cancellations.
They literally have a cancel order button on their page, retarded LARPer. Are you now going to tell me it doesn't work even after I just told you that I cancelled my orders?

>>101349356
You ESL fucking retard. Learn how to read. You are allowed to REQUEST a cancellation. That's it. You are not able to FREELY cancel whatever the fuck you want. It's completely up to amiami's digression.
https://support.amiami.com/hc/en-us/articles/360038637671-How-Can-I-Request-Order-Cancellation

>>101350707
What the point of posting any of this shit when my orders are cancelled, pedantic retard? Do you just enjoy looking like a clown on public forums?

Man, interesting read. My vchuuba consumption has dialed down so much I had no idea there was some big drama over Ao and Marine. Kinda crazy.

>>101324222 (OP)
>Flashback to her Solo live
>"You Ichimi are my treasure"
Man, why are women like this...

>>101343361
They dont. But you just dont pay for the order and unless you do it often nothing happens.

>>101343797
Her nasally voice makes my dick so hard for some reason.

>>101352181
And treasure is best when locked in a safe away from the eyes, thats what she does with her fans

>>101352181
it was over when she refused to cry when she was reading the letter to the fans, that's when I knew she didn't give a shit about them.

>>101355180
she was never this kind of emotional, its better she didnt fake cry as it would be worse

>>101355212
>she was never this kind of emotional
Lul wut? She herself has admitted that she cries over literally everything, even when she sees something super cute or eats a delicious burger, but when the time comes where she has the most reason to be emotional with the people who have supported her for half a decade she refuses to do so.
I don't know what the fuck we did to her to make her be like that.

>>101355408
>Lul wut?

Meant towards the fan stuff / vtubing.

It's clearly just a job to her, which is fine, but then at least do your job lol

>>101355180
The letter wasn't emotional so she would have just been forcing a cry of she did that. The whole thing from the release of the album to the live itself was just a cold, corporate move to make money.

>>101355912
>Meant towards the fan stuff / vtubing.
She was crying all the time during her first year over all the support. She now gives no fucks at all and had to come up with a "I really did cry off-stage" story to appeal to the people who have supported her for a long time.

>>101345885
My rrat is that after reaching the top and everything a vtuber can possibly accomplish, she's realized she's still not happy and it freaks her out. So she focuses all her energy to eliminating final thing supposedly standing in the way of her happiness, antis.

>>101357191
and creating more antis along the way because of that. Even turning her fans into antis.

Heh, women.

>>101356589
>"I really did cry off-stage"

Just like she enjoys streaming off stage

Sex with both of them

>>101356560
Even if you paid attention before she announced the sololive she sounded a bit reluctant, I think she only did it because of pressure from Cover as they must have seen all the interest there was for one of her from the fans and that's why it happened.
My assumption was always that Marine would do her sololive as a parting gift once she graduated to leave with the bar set high and well that didn't happen.
Frankly I doubt there's going to be a second sololive from her.

>>101358624
>>101345008

>>101358624
thank god there's almost no fanart of these two.

Then again, Marine herself is bleeding goated artists. Few have left already

>>101359902
Don't forget that also several dedicated clippers have already retired or moved to other Holos.

>>101358694
Its actually a miracle we even got one.
I'm glad I won the ticket raffle, one of the best concerts ever.

>>101361402
what's there to clip now kek all she does is members streams every 3 months

She doesn't owe you chuds, anything

>>101362266
Well she's not entitled to my time and money either

>>101362266
doesnt owe me anything - no money no views

lets see who lasts longer

>>101362175
Right, but until recently the clippers edited from old streams, now they don't even bother with that anymore, Marine's unofficial Japanese clipper doesn't even bother to upload compilations anymore.
And it's even worse that she won't even let anyone clip the retarded tik tok streams.
Its all fucked up

>>101364690
i still didnt click the tiktok stream, fuck that shit

>>101359902
You're not wrong but that's more of a epidemic issue. Many chuuba artists are oshihenning and switching to drawing ZZZ, Nikke, Blue Archive or whatever's the FOTM gachaslop, or going back and forth but not pumping as much of their oshi's fanart as they once did. It's really painful to witness.

>>101361402
Bit redundant with barely anything new to make clips out of, lmao.

>>101363108
Marine has enough simps to live comfortably all her life. She is not going to cry and beg in your door anon.

>>101357191
>hunting down antis angle
ok explain how the MV was actually marine shitting on antis

>>101368420
He going to say "mmmmmwell Ao appeared for 0.0002 seconds so she is clearly Declaring war to us!!"

>>101324222 (OP)
>This is Marine, the biggest whore on nico nico after 110-chan.
Fixed that for you.

Marine is a pure lesbian saint. She believes in Jesus Christ unlike the rest of satanic Holos.

>>101371810
>Lesbian saint
Pick one

>>101365051
Why is it painful?
Those artists just treated Hololive the same way they treat most gacha games, doing fanart only until they, inevitably, get bored of it. Expecting people to just keep producing free art forever is ludicrous.

>>101371810
lesbians go to hell

>>101373481
Besides what's the point of making fanart which amounts to free promotion to someone who doesn't even stream, the only reason to keep making art of her is only if you like the model.

>>101371810
I have to wonder if shit like this is unironic or not. Like you see this coombaiting lesbian talking about how weird her experience at Catholic school was and your mind goes to: muh Japanese Christian tradwife.
Like, damn dude. Are you that mentally ill and lonely?

>>101374925
>ironic posts don't exist in 4chinz

>>101374925
Congrats, you can have your Autism official diagnosis.

Things were better when Flare was tending to the menhera instead of Ao.

>>101376695
>>101376842
>i-it's ironic..!
how naive

If the other Holomen had slept with Marine when she asked them to, maybe none of this would have happened.

I'm looking at you Noel

>>101378325
Well, Shion was halfway there and that didn't help. Lamy offered and Marine never partook.

>>101377393
It was actually Kanata most of the time but Marine was mentally better so she actually talked to multiple people unlike now.

>>101374925
Dude...

>>101377393
or litrally almost anyone else but Ao and the dramas wouldnt exist

>>101383233
Poor abandoned angel, and not long time ago she was in Marine's MV. Now its the leech

>>101328579
Funny enough I've been seeing a lot more Marine merch popping up on mercari jp lately with the reason for selling given that they dropped her as their oshi. Even JPniki are starting to get fed up with her shit.

>>101386725
Which MV is she in?

>>101386872
Bisho Pirate, and surprisingly during a scene where Marine is feeling down and she talk to Kanata on the phone.

How quickly shit changes

>>101387957
I totally forgot about that scene.
Speaking of shit changing quickly, Kanata was talking about feeling lonely because she couldn't talk to Marine in feb 2024 due to the gen 3 Scotland trip and then the next month she got cut off completely in favor of Ao.

>>101388039
Yup, i hate how Marine treats her "friends" when new toy fulfilling her needs arrives.

For someone who was spitting some mature shit in her early days she sure acts like a young girl

>>101388848
>i hate how Marine treats her "friends" when new toy fulfilling her needs arrives.
But she wasn't like that before Ao.

>>101388906
>But she wasn't like that before Ao.

Hmmm, maybe not to that degree. She was definitely growing more distant when someone new caught her eye but yes, it wasnt like complete isolation like after Ao.

Which only proves how toxic is Ao. If this was male-female friendship the reddit would be exploding over how Ao seems possessive and should be cut off

>>101388931
>She was definitely growing more distant when someone new caught her eye
When? She had the same off-stream support network for years and Ao wrecked all of it. Regular collab partners change for everyone all the time and don't necessarily indicate anything.
It is interesting how there were barely any KanaMari collabs despite them being super close and now that Marine is out and Lamy is in KanaLamy collabs are constant. Really shows who was avoiding those collabs.
>If this was male-female friendship the reddit would be exploding over how Ao seems possessive and should be cut off
Anon, they would be absolutely loving it. You would be right if you said that this place would be exploding.

I feel called out

>>101389414
There's a bluray for this thing already? I don't remember it even getting announced.

>>101389452
grabbed it from nyaa.si

>>101389475
I just checked what you're downloading and it's just the limited edition CD. Naming the album and concert the same is confusing.

>>101389414
How's the quality?

>>101386783
On Twitter last year I saw more posts of support and replies to her tweets, now I've seen how both have declined quite a bit, I've only seen that the most fervent gachis are the ones who still post in support of Marine but the decline in her popularity is noticeable.

>>101388848
>For someone who was spitting some mature shit in her early days she sure acts like a young girl
She's an uber menhera, it's just that she used to be better at hiding it, not that now that she has more popularity than she ever wanted she doesn't give a shit about hiding it anymore.

>>101324222 (OP)
You know Marine graduating would not be the bad ending, the real bad ending would be if Marine and the leech graduate at the same time or one shortly after the other and shortly after both return as a 2 act as indies similar to Sakamata and her friend after Hololive.
As obsessed as Marine is with the leech, I wouldn't be surprised if it actually happened in the end.

>>101390015
She is hiding it better than she ever has though? She comes back once a month to make a tweet about being sick or busy and people just believe that that's her status until the next update. If she appears on a stream weeks after a tweet about being sick people will act like she's still sick if she has not given any other updates.

Why do people hate Ao? I remember seeing some good clips of her around debut. What happened?

>>101391134
She has a massive superiority complex and always acts like she's a victim. Her interactions with Marine are gross and she's the one that keeps pushing for more of them.

>>101391134
On top of what other anon said, you cant have collab with Ao and others thats not being annoyingly dominated by Ao.

1s silence? Cant have it, Ao saying bullshit.

Some other more shy member wanting to say something? You bet Ao is gonna take over the attention.

And she's terminally unfunny

>>101390259
This is the worst case scenario, but I think she's smarter than that.

>>101392809
Nah she would totally go for it if Ao suggested it.

>>101328284
You sure it wasn't shion, new fag?

>>101392942
yup, with good timing im convinced Ao could achieve that

>>101391134
>She is not funny
>She is not talented
>She can't sing
>She can't dance
>She is not good at vidya
>She is extremely boring when she tells stories
>She is undisciplined
>She is possessive
>She is literally a leech, If she hadn't stuck to Marine like the parasite she is, she would have done it with either Suisei or Mio fortunately they are both smart enough to know better.
On top of all that she is also a cunt to her unit/gen mates, lets not forget how she made up rumours about Kanade which she later had to deny, she's a bitch especially to Kanade for some reason, attitude which passed onto Marine who does everything to avoid her too.
That's not counting how she has negative history behind her in her previous jobs in which she didn't last more than a year (sounds familiar)
She's useless, I still don't understand what Fagoo saw in her, she's literally the scum of other companies

>>101394104
Is there a stream that's a prime example of this or is it basically every time she streams? I thought her initial schtick of failing to be a debonair host was funny, but it seems like that's no longer the case.

>>101392809
>>101392942
>>101394036
It is no coincidence that the leech went into indefinite hiatus and "magically" Marine stopped streaming as well.
I think it's a given that when the leech leaves Marine is going to go after it.

>>101394215
>I think it's a given that when the leech leaves Marine is going to go after it.
And when it joins something Marine will too. Marine was never going to play on any of the minecraft servers, ARK or GTA if Ao wasn't there.

>>101394104
Lying nijinigger

>>101394213
There's degrees of it visible every single time she interacts with or talks about ReGLOSS. She either puts the others down or says shit like "I'm the one who works the hardest" or says she has everything the worst.
A classic example of it is this collab right here where Ao started to shit on Ririka by calling her home filthy so badly that even Marine told her to stop. https://youtu.be/COnIGT4iu0c?t=3427
Ao usually just deletes all negative comments but for this stream there were so many that she just shut down the comments section enteriely.
She has done this "Marine will hate you for having a filthy room, which you do, while she loves me who has a clean room" thing with both Ririka and Kanade.

>>101394213
Watch all the collabs she had with Marine and you'll see how even Marine struggles with making those streams fun and that says a lot
and of the few solo streams I watched of her whenever she ran out of the topic she was talking about she always had to resort to calling Marine into her stream to keep the attention of her viewers.
The bitch literally couldn't carry a stream by herself much less a whole channel, most of her streams were collabs or big events.
Even in her YT shorts she has to resort to Marine to get people to see them.

>>101394383
Tell me who's your oshi. I'm sure you're a dedicated hololive fan who knows so much about all the hololive members.

>>101394458
It's the same reglossfag who shat on /ahoy/ every time we mentioned we'd had enough of the leech.

>>101394533
Are you sure it's an actual reglossfag? I don't know how anyone can claim to like them all as a group while also liking Ao with all the shit she has done to get away from them in order to pursue Marine.

>>101391134
She's not good at any of the things hololive is known for.

>>101394703
She is also a disgusting homo collaborator more specifically the cock sleeve of the pizzafaggot
it has always been an enigma to me how /here/ she shits on homo collaborators but she is always ignored, that irrelevant she is?

She has to have some good sides or something.
Why would Marine, who has dealed with so many types of people take such a liking to someone that absolutely everyone seems to think is bad? That's weird

>>101394431
>She either puts the others down or says shit like "I'm the one who works the hardest" or says she has everything the worst.
it's no surprise how even her own gen-mates don't remember her or talk about her on their own without someone mentioning her first.

>>101395022
Ao is pretty and willing to string Marine along.
That’s it.

>>101395022
Because Marine doesn't want friends who call her on shit she needs to be called on, she wants enablers who will never say no even to things she shouldn't do and Ao fills perfectly that role

>>101394431
Ah yes, another fucking downside, cant have a drawing collab without this whore. I loved the both chill and funny drawing streams / collabs and now i didnt see a single one without her.

She infected everything I loved about Hololive

What happens when hololive only allows slop content, actual creative people start to get depressed

>>101395022
>Why would Marine, who has dealed with so many types of people take such a liking to someone that absolutely everyone seems to think is bad?

She has low self esteem. And Ao loves spewing compliments every other minute. Self deprecating jokes on stream? No, cant have that, Ao will come in and say nothing is true.

I'm a guy so when I hear compliment i am ready to be attacked or know its a joke, but women? They love this shit.

>>101395174
I hate that now the collabs between Ui mama and marine have to be with that bitch too

>>101395022
Because Marine is physically attracted to Ao. Ao recognizes this and does everything possible to cater to Marine because she sees Marine as the biggest vtuber in Japan and wants collabs with her.

Marine needs a sexy overseas husband.

>>101395340
Dont get me started dude, im pissed. I was happy that bitch went on hiatus thinking i could get some quality content in the meantime but nope, Marine decided to go on hiatus basically as well.

>>101395053
>>101395425
I've never seen Ao's RM, is she really that attractive? Where would she rank on a Hololive RM scale?

>>101395449
A couple of years ago I would have said ME without hesitation but now ehh I'm no longer attracted to her after all the shit she has and hasn't done.

>>101395530
Haha, I've defeated you.

>>101395425
>she sees Marine as the biggest vtuber in Japan
Marine was, before Ao that is.

>>101395490
She's tall and has a pretty face. That's pretty much all she has going for her in terms of looks. She doesn't need to look the best when she also has a manipulative personality.

>>101395485
Same, I thought it would be a win for us only for Marine to disappear as well, that's when I said fuck it and oshihen her.

>>101328579
Sell it with the add import tax on retarded shit from the East it should be an easy sell if you price it right

>>101395636
pooropean here, hololive shit is harder to sell here

>>101395566
pretty face? she looks like korean boy, unless i misremember

Considering the amount of quality MVs she puts out, I think she gets a pass.

Is this just one guy talking here ?

>>101395817
obviously yes, only one person is disatisfied with Marine

Ao-kun must have raped that anons ass really hard considering how butthurt he is

>>101395687
This might come as a shock to you, but other people like things you don't.

>>101395566
I really don't know what the fuck is wrong with Marine if that alone made her basically abandon her career when she was at her peak.
Her loneliness was really that bad.

>>101395930
>Her loneliness was really that bad.
She had lots of friends. Kanata talked to her literally every day. She just fell in love which is different from being lonely.

>>101395974
Yeah, Kanata may be a very good friend, but neither she nor Lamy or Noel are going to invest that much time with her. Marine, despite everything, spent most of her time alone at home.

>>101396069
>Marine, despite everything, spent most of her time alone at home.

y'all gone turn her into introvert hikikomori soon.
She's extrovert

>>101391134
>ao is supposed to be a handsome guy
>scared of horror movies
>scared of bugs
>tries to call her mom to pick her and her date up

>>101396069
I seriously doubt the others ever rejected Marine that often. She used to spend a lot of time with other hololive members which was one of the main sources for topics during chatting streams.
Lamy wanted to meet up with her for months to give her a gift, but couldn't even though they lived in the same building at the time. During this whole ordeal Ao had been staying at Marine's place regularly.
I also doubt Kanata had ever rejected Marine given all the collabs Lamy and Kanata have been doing.

The only variable that has changed is all of those friends getting replaced with Ao, who has been very posessive about Marine.

I bet there won't even be a birthday countdown stream this year, and if there's one Flare and Noel won't show up but Ao will.

>>101396277
It's called gap moe

>>101396277
This short isn't based on actual events.

>>101396133
Yes? So? Retard that's not how it works
Are you going to say now that she was partying everyday instead of rotting in her bed or gooning?

A thread full of Weak creatures

>>101396363
yes

>>101324222 (OP)
sex

>>101397092
I wish I had the same fortitude as your anon to put up with a massive menhera who doesn't care about her fans.

>>101397092
All she cares about now are mascots.
Which wouldnt be bad, but leech ruined Kumarine with her vr chat stream. We couldnt even interact with Kumarine without the whore

>>101400493
Yeah, she even ruined the only thing I was more or less interested in about her which is Kumarine, it's almost unbelievable how she could ruin everything Marine related in record time, from her streams, to her drawings to MVs and collabs with friends.

Reminder that Marine broke her massager for using it too much on Ao

>>101324222 (OP)
Now that Marine has reached the infinite money glitch that allows her to do nothing and still earn, would she accept management's ideas and allow herself to be used for the new wave of BiliBili?

She agreed to go live on TikTok.

Ao is abusing Marine. She has isolated Marine away from her friends and fans (and probably her family as well).

>>101402816
Yup, she herself has close to 0 output now.
Art? Outsourced.
Music? Always was
Music Video? Dont think she does her parts anymore
Shorts? Outsourced
Hologra? 5 minute voice recording session.
Streams? No.

>>101324222 (OP)
She's pregnant. You should be happy for me and my wife.

>>101404778
she has no more eggs stop lying anon

You guys are so weird I've seen a lot of women who gave birth at 30-35 with 0 problems.

>>101404778
women can't impregnate other women

>>101404778
Yeah. With me. I can't wait to finally be born.

>>101324589
>>101324222 (OP)
the eternal EOP strikes again
Marine is a needy woman, this has been known before gen 5 even debuted
Ao-kun most likely kept her from offing herself because she's a mental retard
the saddest thing is that this was kanata's role before but thank god trusty korone saved the day on that one

Very curious to see if Marine appears in Kanata's Sololive in August.

Why people on this place and 5ch still schizoposting about them fucking or something, Ao is literally straight asf

>>101411359
ao has never talked to men in her life

>>101404304
This is one of the few shorts that seems to be actually by her https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FGdaqKcM5w
Some people have been pointing out how stiff her dancing is, leading some of them to believe that she doesn't actually dance during her own 3D performances.

>>101409967
Absolutely not. They have nothing to do with each other anymore. Kanata was only at Marine's because they were still friends when the planning for that was ongoing.
Marine said she wanted to see Kanata get a sololive but hasn't said shit about it. Kanata also said Marine hasn't talked to her in a loooong time.

>>101409967
Lol lmao even

>>101411812
Except when she gets fucked by the pizzafaggot after stream

didnt you guys know, marine died inside the treasure box long ago
stop being delusional

>>101411359
nobody gives the tiniest shit what Ao is, she ruined Marine

>>101411359
>Ao is literally straight asf
And? She is still leading Marine on and isolating her.

Schizo-kun is still at it, damn

>>101417915
Marine is a woman over 30 years old, everything she has done or everything she gets from this is her own fault.

>>101418097
She is still getting lead on.

>>101418140
Two concepts can coexist and be true.

>>101418475
You're talking as if only one is true.

>>101418549
>Marine is a woman over 30 years old, everything she has done or everything she gets from this is her own fault.
>She is still getting lead on

I don't see where I said one Discard the other one

Shut up retards nobody cares

>>101418965
Right here
>everything she has done or everything she gets from this is her own fault.
You effectively telling others to stop saying anything about Ao because everything is Marine's fault.

>>101419159
Ao may be leading her, but that does not detract from the fact that the final decision will always be made by Marine.
She might get a pass the first few times, but if after basically a year and a half she continues to do it even after seeing different reactions in her environment, it's a conscious decision and everything that happens because of it is her fault.
Both still true tho. C'mon bro, This shouldn't give you cognitive dissonance.

>>101324222 (OP)
Marine was always shit. She always streamed way less than her genmates.
PekoNoeFurea are the real sankisei.

>>101391134
wow, multiple replies to this post all by people who've never watched a stream of hers, and thats assuming its all not just the same guy.

I like Ao a lot, I think she is one of the most naturally entertaining and funny hires in years. She is great in collabs, always more than happy to be the butt of the joke and is great at making her collab partners laugh.

For a prime example of whats she's capable of and what she brings to the table I recommend watching her Backrooms collab with FubuMiko.

I think "people" hate Ao because she's a convenient punching bag for people frustrated with Marine, everything they dislike about Marine they just convince themselves that it's all Ao's fault.

>>101419145
>>101423276
Shut the fuck up reglossfag nobody cares about your leech whore not even her gen mates

>>101413584
She's actually cuter when she can't dance.
But that's why i dislike the live concerts. We already know the vocals are pre-recorded and if she also doesnt dance then whats the point.

>>101423276
See guys?
Told you Ao is browsing the chans.
Kill yourself whore and leave Marine alone

>>101419520
Sad but true.Thats why oshihen happened within me.Cant blame all on blue whore

>>101423276
How do you explain her shitting on her genmates? It's not just banter when she has to shut down comments

>>101419520
There's no cognitive dissonance. All of your posts line up with you being upset that people are posting about Ao so you try to minimize Ao's impact by saying shit like
>Ao is literally straight asf

https://youtube.com/shorts/0Q86ymAezvg?si=M2UqjuRQ46PXR9uT
>Almost 2 months without streams instead just shorts where she doesn't even speak
This is what Marine has been reduced to.

>>101427366
Mio warned her about taking the easy route but she took it anyways.

it all started with that shitty goth lolita outfit

>>101351310
Because you're a pathetic oshihenner

>>101428711
You're not making any sense.

>>101428972
this anon summed up your spastic fit pretty well
>>101419145

>>101429005
But you're the one having a spastic fit. I said I cancelled my orders and you went on some weird spergout about it.

>>101429051
>>101428711

>>101429058
I never said I changed oshi. I just cancelled my pre-orders.

>>101429093
Lying fag

>>101426525
Saying marine has responsibility on her actions is not "trying to reduce Ao's impact"
Life is not black and white, both of them are bad for each other

>>101429108
Ok, who's my oshi then? You can't call me a liar if you can't give an answer.

>>101429134
If it's not Marine, then you're an even bigger retard for making this thread.

>>101429131
Yes it is. You came in and said
>Why people on this place and 5ch still schizoposting about them fucking or something, Ao is literally straight asf
This is you claiming that there's nothing happening between because Ao is straight so nobody should talk about it.

>>101429156
I didn't make this thread you fucking schizo.

>>101429167
Then don't reply to me fag

>>101429181
You replied to me, moron.

>>101429198
KYS retard. I replied to OP >>101338820
you're the one who stepped in.

>>101429220
I stepped in to tell you that you can cancel pre-orders because there's merch in places other than hololive shop, you fucking idiot.
Please work on your reading comprehension.

>>101429256
and you are a colossal fag on top of being poor for doing so

>>101429278
But you're the one that's poor because you didn't know that there's other merch.

>>101429296
>you didn't know that there's other merch
according to a retard who can't afford to keep POs
nothing I said is incorrect, your 3rd world reseller that lets you cancel an order, no strings attached, is irrelevant

>>101429315
>can't afford
When did I ever say I can't afford them?
>your 3rd world reseller
You're such a massive poorfag that you don't even know what amiami is.

>>101429334
>When did I ever say I can't afford them?
The fact that you canceled proves it, or, you're a fag
so pick one
>You're such a massive poorfag that you don't even know what amiami is.
there it is kek, and you think I'm the one who needs to work on his reading comprehension
this entire thread is proof to why you're an autist for claiming amiami lets you cancel orders freely (it doesn't), ergo the "no strings attached"
learn English you 3rd world shitter

>>101429157
I am impressed by your ability to read something and draw an extreme conclusion that has nothing to do with it.

Literally all my post says that both of them are bad for each other and have Responsibilities for what has been happening.
No one of my post are "incoherent"

Saying Ao is straight doesn't deny anything, it's just annoying how that's the only route and conclusion a lot ppl here can get from the things happening.

>So nobody should talk about it
You literally pulled that out of your ass.

>>101429361
Why would I keep the pre-order for an item I no longer want? That has nothing to do with not being able to afford it.
>this entire thread is proof to why you're an autist for claiming amiami lets you cancel orders freely (it doesn't)
Explain why they cancelled my pre-orders when I told them to then, island monkey.

>>101429371
>Saying Ao is straight doesn't deny anything
So why say it at all? Ao being straight literally does not matter and you brought it up anyways.
The truth is that you effectively said "Why are you posting about Ao and Marine? They're not a thing because Ao is straight".

>>101348007
the donor? me.

>>101429394
>Why would I keep the pre-order for an item I no longer want? That has nothing to do with not being able to afford it.
Because you keep your oshi's merch or you're an oshihenning (and likely poor) fag. And if you bought merch of someone other than your oshi, then you're a cheating fag. There's no winning for you here.
>Explain why they cancelled my pre-orders when I told them to then, island monkey.
I'll repeat, you ESL fucking retard. Learn how to read. >>101350707

>>101429435
Who's my oshi? This is the second time I'm asking you and you couldn't answer the first time. Liking Marine doesn't mean I need to buy everything.
Explain why they cancelled my pre-orders when I told them to then, island monkey.

>>101324222 (OP)
Ao's last stream was 3 months ago. They both had a period of no streams that coincided with Ao's hiatus announcement.
We can interpret this to mean Ao is keeping Marine busy.

>>101429455
>Who's my oshi? This is the second time I'm asking you and you couldn't answer the first time.
I just fucking told you. If it's not Marine, then you're a retard on principal alone for, as explained above. I don't give a fuck who it is or isn't.
>Liking Marine doesn't mean I need to buy everything.
You buy your oshi's merch and only your oshi's merch. All of it. If you can't then you're a poorfag.
>Explain why they cancelled my pre-orders when I told them to then, island monkey.
I'll repeat, you ESL fucking retard. Learn how to read. >>101350707 (fucking moron)

Marine's decline over the years is depressing. She used to be so enthusiastic about everything

>>101429421
>So why?
I literally wrote the ‘why’ in the previous post

Anyway retard, please buy some reading comprehension course of get into therapy for autistic people or something.

>>101429482
>I just fucking told you.
No you didn't.
>principal
ESL spotted lmao
>You buy your oshi's merch and only your oshi's merch. All of it. If you can't then you're a poorfag.
I can buy all of it but I'm not buying any of it right now because she's being a bitch. How can you not comprehend something as simple as this?
Explain why they cancelled my pre-orders when I told them to then, island monkey.
Tell me about your "principal", ESL retard.

>>101429500
>I literally wrote the ‘why’ in the previous post
No you didn't. Nothing you said has anything to do with Ao being straight.

>>101429532
Add some new eyes or some glasses to the shopping list too.

>>101429516
>No you didn't.
Every post here. Not my problem you can't read, my typo aside.
>I can buy all of it but I'm not buying any of it right now because she's being a bitch. How can you not comprehend something as simple as this?
Nice cope fag lmfao.
Take your pick: oshihenning fag who can't handle women flirting, or regular fag who is also poor.
>Explain why they cancelled my pre-orders when I told them to then, island monkey.
I'll repeat, you ESL fucking retard. Learn how to read. >>101350707

>>101429594
>my typo aside
"principal" is not a typo. You genuinely just do not know how the word you were trying to use is written because you're a third world ESL monkey.
>can't handle women flirting
No streams for months is not "women flirting". Thanks for exposing yourself as nothing but a troll.
Explain why they cancelled my pre-orders when I told them to then, island monkey.

>>101429630
>"principal" is not a typo. You genuinely just do not know how the word you were trying to use is written because you're a third world ESL monkey.
Look in the mirror retard LMAO. And yes, it is, especially so given I'm using voice dictation and didn't catch it.
>No streams for months is not "women flirting". Thanks for exposing yourself as nothing but a troll.
So what is it anon, is Marine your oshi or not? Because you clearly don't know fucking anything about her.
>Explain why they cancelled my pre-orders when I told them to then, island monkey.
I'll repeat, you ESL fucking retard. Learn how to read. >>101350707

Two retards trying to be intellectual

>>101429692
>I'm using voice dictation
Sure you are, ESL ape.
>is Marine your oshi or not?
She is and I'm not giving her anything until she becomes worth supporting again.
>you clearly don't know fucking anything about her
Says the moron that claims there's just "women flirting" and nothing else going on.
Explain why they cancelled my pre-orders when I told them to then, island monkey.

>>101429734
>Sure you are, ESL ape.
Cope
>She is and I'm not giving her anything until she becomes worth supporting again.
So you're just a normal fag. Got it. I bet you didn't even go to her sololive. Your "support" never meant anything in the first place.

>>101429762
Post your membership and merch, LARPer.

>>101429773
Marine isn't my oshi fucktard. Why would I have her membership or any merch of her. I do, apparently, have something over you tho since you're too poor to have gone to her sololive in person KEK.

>>101429870
Nice stolen photo.

>>101429982
KEK, you really are an unironic poorfag 3rd worlder who couldn't even go to his oshi's (allegedly) 1st sololive so now he has to save money on merch POs by canceling them and making up excuses about Ao in this thread.
I see right through you anon.
And I took plenty of photos, all you need to do is ask. It's the least I can do for a poorfag who couldn't even go KEK.

>>101430074
I could have gone if I had wanted to. It was almost an entire year into Marine doing absolutely nothing so I didn't.

>>101430123
pure cope from a gay man living on a 3rd world island

>>101430143
It's way more likely that you're the one living on a 3rd world island since you didn't even know what amiami is and how they work. You hastily googled their page to try and claim that you can't cancel pre-orders with them.

>>101430165
I have spent more money on amiami than you have made in your life kek, good effort tho poorfag-kun

>>101430177
This must be another stolen image because you adamantly claimed you cannot cancel pre-orders on amiami even though I did just that.

>>101430194
There you go again with your inability to read
Here yo go, you illiterate fucking ESL retard >>101350707

>>101430208
Explain why they cancelled my pre-orders when I told them to then, island monkey.

>>101430219
Maybe if you could read, you'd know, but instead you will continue to ask this while shoveling pagpag down your throat.

>>101430240
I cancelled my order on amiami despite you claiming it's impossible. I didn't even give a reason.

>>101430266
How fucking hard are you going to lean into the "completely unable to read" thing. You've already been spoonfed a dozen times now.

>>101430289
You claimed I can't freely cancel my pre-order with amiami, but I literally did that. You going on about it being a "request" doesn't mean shit.

>>101430289
He is a retard who pretends to be illiterate in order to save a little of his dignity. There are literally like 3 different people who have told him he can't read kek

>>101430315
>You going on about it being a "request" doesn't mean shit.
Ahhh that's the problem. You just don't know what this word means. That's okay anon, language learning is a life-long process. I'm not above helping a retard like you learn.

>>101430332
inb4 you get quoted for "samefagging" me kek

>>101430342
I freely cancelled my amiami pre-order which proves all of your bullshit wrong.
Why are you this obsessed with this argument anyways? Do you feel bad about going to that concert when you see people saying they don't like Marine anymore? Is that was this is about?

>>101430369
>I freely cancelled my amiami pre-order which proves all of your bullshit wrong.
You "freely" requested them to. They could have just as easily told you to kick sand (which they should have since you clearly don't deserve the handout).
>Why are you this obsessed with this argument anyways? Do you feel bad about going to that concert when you see people saying they don't like Marine anymore? Is that was this is about?
Oshihenning fags like yourself deserve the rope.

>>101430177
good flex man

>>101430402
I don't think you understand how any of this works.
>Oshihenning fags like yourself deserve the rope.
Who's my oshi? This is the third time I'm asking and you still haven't been able to answer
Also you're a cheating fag because you went to the sololive of someone who's not your oshi.

>>101430476
>>is Marine your oshi or not?
>She is and I'm not giving her anything until she becomes worth supporting again.
So now you're going to claim you didn't write this, right anon? Your words, not mine. Fucking retard.
>Also you're a cheating fag because you went to the sololive of someone who's not your oshi.
My oshi is Fubuki you fucking moron. I was waiting for you to ask.

>>101430532
Oh so you don't know what oshihen means then?
>My oshi is Fubuki you fucking moron.
You're a cheating fag. You were not supposed to watch day 2.

>>101430569
>Oh so you don't know what oshihen means then?
You can try this cope all you want, but the only person here bitching about their """"oshi"""" is you.
>You're a cheating fag. You were not supposed to watch day 2.
Oh you're an EOP too. Not according to Fubuki. She told us to support Marine for both days, not just for her guest appearance, so I got tickets to both days. Simple as.
Not that it matters for you anyway, since you couldn't even afford to go to one of them KEK.

>>101430620
Who is my oshi if I oshihen?
It's still a mystery to me why you're this offended over people not liking Marine anymore. I'm sure Fubuki would be proud of having her fans cheering for Marine's fall from grace.

>>101430650
>Who is my oshi if I oshihen?
Fuck if I know, or care, who you oshihenned to. The point is that (You) claimed Marine is (was) your oshi at some point.
>It's still a mystery to me why you're this offended over people not liking Marine anymore.
What do you not understand about this
>Oshihenning fags like yourself deserve the rope.
ESL retard
>I'm sure Fubuki would be proud of having her fans cheering for Marine's fall from grace.
Ignoring, of course, the fact that Marine has never been in a better position in her career than today, and the fact that Fubuki would disagree with everything you stand for ITT.

>>101430711
I didn't oshihen. It's up to you to prove that I did.
>Marine has never been in a better position in her career than today
Are you fucking serious? Everyone keeps talking about how they're waiting for her to "recover" so they can simply talk to her again. How is that a good position to be in?

>>101430751
>I didn't oshihen. It's up to you to prove that I did.
You're dumping your merch orders. You've already got one foot out the door.
>Everyone keeps talking about how they're waiting for her to "recover" so they can simply talk to her again. How is that a good position to be in?
You are a schizophrenic retard.

>>101430792
You once again demonstrate that you don't seem to understand what oshihen means.

>>101430810
I absolutely know what oshihen means, retard EOP-kun. You are displaying oshihenner tendencies and bitching about your oshi. I'm calling you what you so badly want to be. You should be happy.

>>101430832
So who's my oshi?

>>101430895
It sure as fuck isn't Marine. No one who made this thread or talks the way you do about her deserves to call themselves an Ichimi.

>>101430922
You don't get to talk about who is or isn't ichimi when you don't know shit about Marine.

>>101430952
I know plenty about her, seemingly more than you, and more than enough to know that your """"complaints"""" are the schizophrenic ramblings of a gay man.

To hell with Marine, I want to fuck her mama and sisters instead

>>101430985
You know nothing.

>>101431020
Especially this sister

>>101430952
Maybe you were an Ichimi but rn you are talking like an anti.

Begone, dark ichimi.

>>101430895
anon you are a retard
here, I'll answer for him
>>101328579
>Nene and Korone
not exactly beating the oshihen allegations

>>101431055
>Begone, dark ichimi.
Marine accepts all ichimi. You clearly do not know her if you're saying shit like this.

>>101431074
That's not my post, idiot.

>>101431095
sure it isn't anon

>>101431022
>>101431076
LMAO, the audacity to say I know nothing and then post this shit.

>>101431074
The hell if i oshihen her, she's behaving like a cunt, why should I keep putting up with her, anyone who keeps supporting her after all the shit she's done is nothing more than a pathetic cuck.

>>101431124
If she didn't accept dark ichimi why does she call them dark ichimi instead of antis? Are you fucking retarded? She intentionally keeps them on board to get their money.

>>101431150
>>101431165

>>101431175
I don't think you understand this idiom at all.

>>101431209
>Rather than admit defeat, [the fox] states [the grapes] are undesirable.
>Retard dark ichimi complains about Marine, his reasons are completely his own fault
>Rather than accept he's an oshihenner, he lashes out at Marine, saying it's her fault
Yeah, I'm the one who doesn't understand the idiom. Definitely anon.

>>101431254
So who's my oshi?

>>101431273
hololive isn't for you anon, since you're homeless I suggest you look elsewhere

>>101431254
It's normal to move on if your oshi stops entertaining you, retard.

>>101431326
And we call those losers oshihenners. Thanks for adding nothing to the conversation anon.

>>101431305
You keep calling me an "oshihenner" but can't explain who my oshi is. I already told you it's Marine but you won't take that for an answer.
I still don't get why you get this upset over other people talking about Marine who you do not even like.

>>101431175
A better analogy would be that the fox ate a lot of grapes at first but then there were few, then almost none and then the vineyard was empty and so the fox went to another vineyard where it could continue eating grapes.

>>101431344
Why are you calling them losers? Marine told people to stop watching her if they don't like her current content.

>>101431365
>Marine told people to stop watching her if they don't like her current content.
I'm aware, and I think that people who don't like her current content are losers. How is that not obvious.

>>101431381
You think people who aren't happy with just shorts are losers? Damn, why would you insult all the other hololive fanbases like that?

>>101431345
Because your reasons for not liking her are fucking retarded.

>>101431413
You don't know anything so you don't get to make a call like that.
Why not go tell Fubuki that she should stop streaming and go into only posting shorts? That's peak content.

>>101431406
>You think people who aren't happy with just shorts are losers?
Sure, lets just ignore her focus on music.
>Damn, why would you insult all the other hololive fanbases like that?
Even if we follow your logic here, this would imply that every other holo "only posts shorts" which an embarrassingly stupid take anon.

>>101431254
How the fuck is it the fans' fault that there's no content of hers to consume?
You're starting to reek of reglossfag trying to make it seem like it's the fault of most ichimi not wanting to consume Ao spam
Kill yourself

>>101431432
Just say you hate Marine's music and move on anon.

>>101431453
>Sure, lets just ignore her focus on music.
What music has she released in the past 6 months? The "new" song is an old one from the album. Marine isn't Suisei and isn't actually focused on music. I bet you LOVED the bacardi collab.
>Even if we follow your logic here, this would imply that every other holo "only posts shorts" which an embarrassingly stupid take anon.
Learn to read ESL ape. You said fans who are not satisfied with Marine's current content (fans who want streams) are losers.

>>101431471
Why do you keep trying to push this angle? She barely releases any music. A big part of her album was old songs and she has not released anything since then.

Several other holos who stream consistently have released more music than Marine but you for some reason don't call for them to quit streaming to "focus on music".
Kanata is releasing her second album full of nothing but new songs before her first sololive because she is actually focused on music and singing, unlike Marine, and she still manages to stream and produce other content.
Mio, Watame and Okayu are also more focused on music than Marine and that somehow doesn't wipe out all of their other content. The only reason you don't consider them "focused on music" is because they don't act like Marine does.

Anons, if you were rich, And if you were confident that you could do anything and still have financial security, would you really continue to work like a donkey instead of enjoying your life doing other shit?

>>101432022
Are you suggesting that holos who stream are working like a donkey? You seem to have quite a low opinion of them.

>>101432115
I'm not going to get into your autism loop like the others

>>101432168
Looks like I was spot on and you don't see a way to weasel your way out of this one. Why do you hate holos who stream so much?

>>101432022
Yes, if I enjoyed my work as much as Peko, Korone, Suisei, miko and a big so on do.
Marine doesn't give a shit and prefers to waste her talent on a talentless whore.

I wish I had Marine as a Sugar mommy too.