Thread 101325119

Looking back, was it really that bad?

It killed the branch.

>>101325119 (OP)
Must've been pretty bad, my mind won't even let me see the contents of the image
it's like when my uncle visits and I just see a black looking shadow that screams

>>101325119 (OP)
I don't know, why don't you check? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o65VwnQvWW4

>>101325222
If you sort by recent, Japanese commenters are siding with Anycolor.

>>101325119 (OP)
someone got blacked?

>>101325241
is that kyou

>>101325119 (OP)
It was a historical point of no return. Just like the massive holo graduation within a year between august 2024 may 2025. Some thing changed

>>101325119 (OP)
It was easily the most destructive stream in the history of vtubing and one of the biggest debacles in public relations history overall. It will be studied in colleges for how not to handle public relations for decades. No one involved ever really recovered their reputation.

>>101325119 (OP)
Their mistake was thinking they could win over hysterical women and effeminate men with proof. When Dookieturd played the suicide card it was already over.

>>101326186
>proof
Lmao

>>101325299
>Japanese commenters are siding with Anycolor.
>Gooks are professional corporate bootlickers
More news at 11.

>>101326186
But the only people still watching niji are hysterical women and effeminate men though?

>>101326232
Gook is the slur for Koreans, retard.

>>101325119 (OP)
They would have gotten away with it if Vox hadn't been so smug and done most of the talking

>>101326246
My bad, I stand corrected. I can't really tell asians apart. Thanks for the clarification.

>>101325119 (OP)
No, defending yourself from a BPD menhera is not bad.

>>101325299
Of course they are. The japanese are drones who worship the ground companies walk on.

>>101326186
The only proof they provided was that the bullying allegations were real.

>>101325119 (OP)
absolutely

>>101325299
kek NDF is pathetic

>>101325119 (OP)
It was one of the dumbest, most self-incriminating moves in VTubing history.

>>101325299
And that's why Japan suicide stat will always be enormous.
Whenever you attack black company they come in drones to defend it.
They are perfect slave race.

>>101325119 (OP)
Yes. It was.

>>101325119 (OP)
>Dropped on top of what should have been a chill nostalgia stream for someone who was MIA for a while and had recently confirmed she attempted to become an hero
It was pretty bad.

>>101325904
You’re delusional if you think anyone outside the vtuber sphere is even aware it happened. Barely anyone outside our hobby is even aware of our hobby. Studied in colleges? Dipshit.

>>101327570
Do nijikeks really?

>>101327228
>self-incriminating
That's what gets me about the whole thing. Doki gave the most sanitized, non-inflamatory statement at the end of her redebut and went on to play games. She didn't even mention going to AnyColor's legal team. Then this happened, Elira all but confirmed the clique rrats, Vox brought up a recording that was never mentioned and only made people wonder what he was trying to get ahead of, and Ike...was also there.

>>101327785
Niji genuinely managed to gather some of the worst people in vtubing. Spiteful talentless cunts

*taps the sign*

>>101325119 (OP)
Considering it completely devastated the entire EN branch's growth for an entire year?
>was it really that bad
Is an absolute understatement because the branch is still reeling from the backlash.

>>101328248
are they still losing subs lol

>>101328272
Last time i checked they stabilized a little but they still haven't gained back any of their fans or followers hardly. Essentially they are stagnating to a slow drain

>>101328272
Last time I chekced it mostly stopped except for Elira (not sure how it is now), but it doesn't really grow either, which means that new subs and unsubs are balancing one another or there's literally 0 people who wants to start watching NijiEN

Even if you fully in your heart believe Doki lied about suicide and was 100% in the wrong it was still one of the dumbest possible PR moves

>>101325119 (OP)
>our coworker tried to kill herself, we are the most affected
yeah, it was pretty bad

>>101325299
>if nijitroons are running damage control for the company they must be right
Roru
Rumao even

>>101325119 (OP)
It was the perfect example jap corpo autism being forced to interact with the wider world and predictably shooting themselves directly in the face

>>101325119 (OP)
It's crazy how you can post a black rectangle and everyone instantly knows what you're referring to.
For that fact alone, yes.

>>101325299
not suprising jp is brainwashed corpo fags

>>101325299
Leave to the Japanese to prove once more how slave they are. Also with how it works there, if you say something against, you get hit by a slander lawsuit even if you are right. Laws for slaves.

>>101328976
It's literally the most important back screen of the decade.

All it proves is that Dookieshit seems to have lots of bad things happen to her for absolutely no reason, very convenient that she finds a way to dodge responsibility for her actions by becoming a victim

>>101329980
But enough about Nijisanji.

>>101329944
>It's literally the most important back screen of the decade.
Nah.

Idk anon I don't think I would ever do this for a company

Like imagine having to do this for idk your walmart job

>>101327926
Not gonna lie, I missed that stream and still cannot sit through it in its entirety, it breaks my fucking heart. I know what internal panic sounds like in your head and she obviously was trying and failing to keep talking to avoid hyperventilating on stream while also reading what she was receiving from the lawyer or whatever.
NijiEN deserves to burn.

>>101331052
The way niji planned it wasn't some "oopsie tee-hee pero" it was a vile, malicious attempt to sway public opinion and character assassinate doki. Regardless what people believe about her, she didn't deserve what niji did

just dropping by to say I wish doki happiness and fulfillment

The bully was Enna the whole time.

>>101330117
Idk wtf this is and I don't watch AI shit so no

>>101325299
the japanese descended from bugs so they don't qualify as thinking, feeling moral persons

>>101331783
it's crazy that you'd have to purge every single niji except for rosemi and petra who doesn't stream anyway for them to get a clean slate

>>101325119 (OP)
No, it was very tame at the time too. They were just saying their piece and that they were shocked that a colleague they trusted was throwing them under the bus. It wasn't even bad then. You guys just got played by people spamming shit and trying to get you emotional.

That said, I don't watch Niji or support Niji, but fuck are some of you guys dumb peons.

>>101332362
NIJISEETHE

>>101325119 (OP)
lol

>>101332500
It just was never that special dude, it was kind of boring actually. Yet they got you all to lose your shit and be butt wrangled and mind broken for a hundred shitpost threads.

It wasn't that special, you're just that easy.

>>101332629
>drove one of their pillars to attempt
>drove another one to depression
>drove themselves off a cliff by telling on themselves just to get the last word in
nah it's pretty special. but cope harder sister

>>101325119 (OP)
If vtubing can be said to have historical moments then this was one of them, maybe not one of the biggest but certainly not a footnote for both the precedent it set and the ramifications afterwards. It's honestly insane how anycolor thought that a character assassination like that would fly with anyone but the most diehard of sisters, they well and truly shit themselves in the foot and, I believe, responsible for a massive uptick in dramabaiting content that has plagued vtubing since.

>>101332362
>>101332629
Sure, Sister. As if you didn't make that Rentry with everyone from the lowliest 2view dramachuuba to the biggest normie YouTube commentators in the scene as a black company's Rogues' Gallery.

>>101333486
I think as far as global is concerned, there were only really 3 big, earth-shaking vtubing events
1. Hololive vs China, graduation of Coco, broke JP containment from how insane it was + only english-catering holo at the time
2. HoloEN debut
3. Termination of Selen Tatsuki + Black stream

I don't think anything but those 3 has shaken the western vtubing scene like this to such a massive degree.
MAYBE the holocaust when most of JP's vods got taken down and perms became a thing, but by then the west wasn't really focused on holo yet so many new fans don't even know about it.

>>101325119 (OP)
It didn't do shit to nijisanji so not really. Western vtuber fans hated anything non-hololive already and in the end it didn't do anything but give that doxxing faggot falseyed some views. It didn't effect nijien since they'd be treated the same because they aren't hololive, and it didn't effect niji jp at all and they're still the most popular vtuber corpo in japan. At best all it did was make it so when someone calls out covercorp for treating people like shit they get spammed with nijisister instead of being accused of being a wactor fan or something.

the only notable events of vtubing are
>kizuna
>sora
>miko gta
>holoen
that's it. anycolor and any other corpo doesn't even register on the radar.

>>101335060
at least this is better htan your last cope sister
>still the most popular vtuber corpo in japan
still delusional but better

>>101335088
Salome is a literal record breaker and more entertaining than any hololive streamer. Hell no one gives a fuck about sora. Honestly surprised you have the brainchild to put kizuna in your list but your dumbass probably links her to hololive in some stupid ass way in your head. Can't wait for vtuber corpos to die in the next couple years so retards like you neck yourselves.

>>101335145
>Salome is a literal record breaker and more entertaining than any hololive streamer.
She's a fucking fad who was botted to 1mil.
The instant Anycolor's IR report dropped, all of her hype and viewers vanished into the wind.
>>101335088
Nobody gives a shit about JP outside of Japan.

>>101326186
This but unironically

>>101335060
>It didn't effect nijien since they'd be treated the same because they aren't hololive,
>the entirety of the branch lost nearly 2 years worth of subscribers and growth
>viewership never recovered
>-8
>didn't affect nijien

>>101325175
I wouldn't worry about it anon.

Why do people act like the Selen drama hadn’t already gone viral before this? Doki had a 120k dramanigs watching her debut. The black screen stream was retarded because it helped prolong the drama, but the damage had already been done at that point.

>>101335193
No one who gives a fuck about vtubing watches the camwhores at holo or niji either.

>>101335145
UH OH NIJIMELTY

>>101335427
Oh you're one of those "kizuna ai/elite 4 are the only vtubers" kind of people. Yeah, sorry buddy. That age is long past dead.

>>101335252
Not to mention the entire industry actively ignores Nijisanji EN -- no invitations to OffKai, Anime Expo or any of that shit. And it's obviously why Niji EN will never PUBLICLY fire Aster of Twisty.

>>101335354
Because the black screen was the point of no return. Niji EN could have recovered if they had left Doki alone. There would have been a 50/50 of those who support or doubt Doki, or those who would believe going their separate ways was for the best.

>>101325119 (OP)
NDF showing up again after Holos run away to the other place. Fucking dire.

>>101335935
i think if enna never tried to start a war /here/ then i think niji's reputation could have recovered
but after she kept trying to spite the board, she only put her branch under more scrutiny from 2022 to 2023 than they would've been and so all the goodwill left with the fairy and the dragon
it's why being an attentionwhore for controversy never works out, people will go looking for every skeleton even if it's an old animal bone

>>101327570
It made the rounds in biz for a few days then dropped

>>101336086
You vastly overestimate the importance of /vt/
The reason it blew up was because Selen had a ton of connections to people as well as fans both inside and outside of vtubing, which allowed the story to get far more traction.

>>101325119 (OP)
They streamed it over Doki's stream, put a huge target on three of their talents and everything they said only made them look worse. Yes, it was bad. Outstandingly so. Negative IQ move. All they had to do was literally nothing.

>>101331783
No shit but no one names the cliques worst perpetrators

>>101332629
Not special
Impact negligible
The death of NijiEN was negligible lol

>>101338271
You say that but all speculation was discussed since Christmas. When events were escalating the people who hated the past form of Niji blasted them with so many topics sisters felt compelled to defend all of it because their company could do no wrong, losing focus on how their behaviour fit the narrative antis wanted to show everyone when there is a spot light on the current situation.
This wasnt about just Doki this was about Sayu, Nina and Pomu. About fucking over the attitude of assholes who thought they could get away with it for years here. And to re-establish that its not about the company its about the chuuba.
Idiots were so stupid they fell for the use of livers like we were one of them.

>>101325119 (OP)
It was the timing of it that made it 10x more yab, because it was quite seemingly made to interrupt Selen's first actual normal Doki stream which caught her off guard. It, the negligible thing and Riku's apology all happened around that window (I think the apology was only a few hours after this) combining to make a shitstorm cyclone we probably won't get again for a long time.

>>101325119 (OP)
Yes
As bad as the stuff that preceded it was, they could have still recovered their reputation.
Everyone was blaming the unseen managers, with only mild speculation here that Enna and Millie were bullies to her
Posting this made things plummet even further, and now everyone knows that there's some serious harassment problems in NijiEn both from management and the talents.
Plus, it opened the floodgates to numerous other controversies

>>101328272
I see Elira or Millie with 1-2k viewers per stream, so either they somehow recovered, or they're abusing bots. Regardless of that, their reputation has been completely dead since then and no vtuber other than other Nijis would dare collab with them, they're plain radioactive. Only the EN boys matter nowadays and their fanbase is composed of crazy SEA women.

>>101335346
based sunny gif

>>101325299
>ITT retards hating that Japanese people are more intelligent than them and capable of reading
Classic. EOPs, fuck off

>>101325299
I wonder why the country who has a notorious problem with toxic work culture would stand with the black corpo?

>>101345377
that's why any and all Asian empires will never be as great as their Western counterparts
they're slaves to groupthink and mob mentality instead of pursuing truth and excellence

>>101345227
it's 100% bots, just look at Finana

>>101345957
>4.5k
>on finana

They're not even trying to be sneaky about it, holy shit

>>101345957
Seethe more, Kyousha

>>101345942
>Being racist against the Japanese
>In a hobby created by the Japanese
You retards just hate vtubers basically

>>101326672
The allegations that Selen already made before the video went out? Retard

>>101325119 (OP)
Yes. Even if you look at things from the most sociopathic perspective possible it's actually mind blowing that whatever retard runs the branch, whether that's some esl manager or elira and her gaggle of bullies, thought the risk of attempting a proverbial driveby on doki in public was worth the blowup failing would cause.

They're probably too retarded and mean to even know they're lucky they failed at provoking a relapse in doki with that stunt. If something had happened as a result the involved parties would all be up on criminal charges rather than just torching their internet careers to the ground.
Insane how stupid and mean they are. it's what happens when a person never grows up from high school and thinks all the world runs how it did on the playground.

It was so bad it broke confidentiality laws, OP.

>>101325119 (OP)
Yes, it was a pretty disastrous PR move on Nijisanji's part.
I have so many questions. Why air this out to begin with? Why get the talents to speak about it in a prerecorded video instead of just tweeting about it? Why make the video extremely ominous and weird by not having any visuals and directing the talent to speak in obviously insincere and somber tones about what the company wanted to say?
Considering when they chose to air it and its contents, there's just no other way to take it than it being an intentionally malicious and antagonistic move towards Doki, one that pretty much validates what she had to say about what it was like to work there.

It's probably the single biggest PR fuckup I can remember from any section of the entertainment industry I've followed in my entire life, honestly. It’s something I think I can safely describe as being legitimately evil.

>>101346463
The ones you made up?

>>101346454
>>101346543
>Two nearly identical posts seconds apart
Was the fagoon discord alerted?

>>101346594
Nope, that’s my honest opinion. I don’t even watch Dokibird.

It was bad. Really bad. Don't know why they blame Selen though, every awful fucking thing that happened to them they did to themselves by being spiteful assholes who wanted a scalp.

>Terminate your most subscribed female talent when she asks to graduate, treat her like shit in front of everyone with a 3 page termination
>She tried to an hero due to stress? Come back to shit talk her some more.
>We got Community Noted? Tell everyone how negligible she is and how she's nothing
>People hated that? Fine, get all her friends and have them character assassinate her live in front of the whole world while she's hyperventilating in a neopets stream.

It was a multimillion dollar company online bullying a long time well liked talent. I don't know what they thought would happen.

>>101346670
Make it three nearly identical posts
>Community noted
LOL, pathetic fagoons

>>101346714
I hope you’re merely pretending, because this is pretty pathetic otherwise.

>>101325119 (OP)
Do you think protecting Aster was worth it?

>>101346767
You're not using commas correctly. At least try if you're gonna larp like you're not a shit stirrer

>>101345957
Damn, that's like 12 Finanas!

>>101346821
Yeah, I have a bad habit of putting unnecessary commas before because. You seem like a huge faggot.

>>101346554
They were reading legal documents that were meant for lawyers eyes only

>>101346594
>Could my chosen branch have simply fucked everything up that badly and lots of independant people came to very similair conclusions based on observing events that transpired?
>No, everyone I disagree with is a nazi/dragoon!
Retards like you are why I actually hope for the continued existence of nijien and hope that elira and co never leave it.

>>101325119 (OP)
Yes lmao, guess you weren't around during that disaster

>>101347005
Nothing was signed, retard. There is no confidentiality for anything they read

>>101346111
The fuck is a Kyousha?

>>101347161
stop pretending sister

>>101345377
You would have a point if the backlash were purely from turd worlderd, but it's not.
The Japanese are more intelligent than pavement apes, SEAnogs and Dravidians - not Whites. They have a high average clustered around the upper-range normal, 115-120 IQ midwit region due to their relatively small gene pool. Actual 135+ IQ genius intellect on the other hand - that is, all the ACTUAL intelligence - is something like 97%+ White European men.
So fuck off with the sycophantic slant glazing already.

>>101346139
The internet, livestreaming, cameras, microphones, computers, and electrical power systems were all invented by Whites.
Guess that means being "racist" against Western fans means you hate the internet and everything about it, including vtubers.

>>101345957
Nah, not even Rosemi can pass 1k, there's no way the girl who had a measurement unit named after her low viewer count has over 4k on a "homework ASMR" stream. But considering NijiEN is the epitome of shameless, it shouldn't come as surprising.

>>101346594
>seconds apart

They're three minutes apart you cocksucking SEAnigger

>>101346670
>She tried to an hero due to stress? Come back to shit talk her some more.
Even worse, they still harassed her while she was at the hospital so she could make a statement, her own mom had to tell them to fuck off.

>>101347737
You don't belong in that pool anyway retard you're the average dumbass

>>101348279
>they still harassed her while she was at the hospital so she could make a statement
And more things that never happened. It's good that the Japanese are literate and not so entrenched in propaganda

So many parts of the industry changed as a result of this stream
>Nijisanji went from a big player in the western vtuber scene to completely forgotten and avoided by the rest of the industry outside asia
>Many of the biggest talents in said corpo go from high 4views to mid 3 views at best overnight
>Causes vtubers and fans alike to put corpo practices into question and either quit for the indie scene or actively call out black corpo shit more proactively
>The slowly growing indie scene exploded into a huge subsection of vtubing that stands toe to toe with corpos, instead of being far behind
Safe to say yes, it was pretty bad

>>101346227
If the chuuba makes an allegation, but nobody is around to hear it, does it make a sound?

>>101345377
>japanese people are intelligent because they can blindly side with a corporation against a talent that they can't understand the language of.
And they wonder why the AX concert completely flopped.

>>101348407
Anon they admitted it in their own termination notice.

>>101325299
>>101345377
Ah yes, because the Japanese, who's cultural prioritization of seniority turns the lot of them into corpo bootlickers, taking the side of the overwhelmingly and objectively in the wrong corpo is such a good indication of who's actually in the right

>>101326186
>>>>>>>>>proof

>>101350519
Even setting all of this aside, it's pretty funny that someone itt is seriously advocating for the YouTube comments section as a voice of reason on anything.

>>101326186
Delusional, estrogenated yellow hands typed this

>>101325119 (OP)
It was even worse.

>>101349688
As opposed to Dookieshitters who blindly side with a BPD menhera?

>>101351702
>Doki
>everyone that antis her has been proven to be gutter trash
>Blackycolor
>all their former vtubers have recalled in one form or another bad experiences with the company
i rest my case

>>101351867
>everyone that antis her has been proven to be gutter trash
Does that include her own parents that kicked her out of the house and called the cops on her? Lmao.

>>101351908
bad asian parents are the stereotype yeah

>>101351908
Those sound like horrible parents, yeah.

>>101348407
>>101351702
>>101351908
No matter how small the bait thread is, somehow there's always a sister parroting the same Doki hating points that have been disproven time and time again.

So what was in the black screen stream? Was it just a silent, black screen? Or was there talking?

>>101353534
The only audio was a carrier signal carefully crafted to deliver the subliminal frequencies encoding the sleeper cell activation codes

>>101351867
That's nice code for launching harassment campaigns against everyone that goes against BPDbird

>>101353534
>Was it just a silent, black screen?
Newfag...

>>101353614
>BPDbird
Gretchen! Stop trying to make "fetch" happen! It's not going to happen!

>>101339038
>since Christmas
Yup, people began speculating that she attempted suicide almost immediately. Were called schizos as a result. Ad lo and behold, they were proven right.

>>101348480
Don't forget that this drama was so big it leaked out the vtubersphere - lawyers who knew nothing about vtubers were suddenly making streams about it and other historical drama, big drama-focused fleshtubers were covering it. Vtubing got a huge influx of drama seekers hoping that the funny anime streamers would be new lolcows and it's all nijis fault

>>101354692
>it's all nijis fault
Deflecting blame from fagoons and Holodrones who happily welcomed the grifters in , huh?

>>101325299
>the guy who brought up WW2

>>101325119 (OP)
What was said was in bad taste, but also somewhat reasonable with how Selen/Doki was crashing out in public over private issues
Who ended up saying it was maximum retarded from all venues. Elira, Vox, fucking IKE?

>>101354801
Private issues like... not being able to graduate and them ignoring harassment claims?

>>101354832
more akin to her either having shitty management failing to greenlight her collabs, projects, and tournaments OR her being lazy and never properly organizing her collabs, projects, and tournaments
Take your pick, but even as a heavy Obsydia enjoyer, Selen taking up 2/3rds of her following stream to blame everyone but herself for yet another failed project was agitating at best

>>101354832
>not being able to graduate
She could have
>ignoring harassment claims
That didn't exist until she tried blackmailing people

>>101354726
>sister says this while embracing katliente
Fucking hypocrite

>>101354874
You're full of shit, anon. Management always demanded that Selen put herself through humiliation rituals on Twitter and blame herself for the fuckups that were entirely the fault of management.

>>101354874
To be fair, after she left Niji she's been pretty good about that. Namely because things tend not to fail when you're allowed to hire competent help instead of begging management to get back to you for weeks.
Being forced to handle nearly everything herself made it far easier for things to slip through the cracks.

>>101354987
>You're lying about these logical conclusions!
>What REALLY happened is this hentai tier kink i am imagining in my head
Also
>Selen blames herself
Lol, LMAO even

>>101355010
I'd agree normally, but i do recall her latest drama with the custom Hyte case was her mostly telling her fandom to not be mad at her being she had to be escorted out of her home via police intervention- then adds in her having to tell everyone she can't trust her old management team and had to fire them. Which yea i understand....but that didn't account for the main drama of the Hyte case being "you never told the person a timeline and let her gas the bill up because you didn't put a limit or agreed to costs"

>>101355017
>logical conclusions
So you're speaking from ignorance and inferring stuff. Naruhodo.

>>101355044
>Hyte
You fucked up at the most basic of facts of that case. Opinion discarded.

>>101354960
Ironically, she's more of a journalist than all other dramafags for actually having an exclusive, new story

>>101355045
If you think blaming one of two possible parties for not doing their job is "ignorance" and "inferring", then you're quite possibly the most retarded person on /vt/

>>101355017
Don't you get tired of time loops? You can just compare Doki to Selen and see how suddenly she's able to crank out much higher quality projects and events much faster with less hiccups.

Nijisanji was useless, as shown by their complete inability to set up events for the branch that aren't them being shoehorned in between jp events so people stay once their two event coordinators left. Just look at the mario kart event, or that hilarious AX concert.

>>101355094
It's either one of two things. Either you're ignorant, or you're a nijjer management dickrider.
>>101355075
>journalist
So, gutter trash. Glad we agree.

>>101355115
well if you ignore:
>Her first ever tournament as Doki was just her watching "her team" win everything
>Her second tournament she bombed out and blamed being stressed out and "harassed" in comms
>Her third tournament reminding everyone every 10 seconds she was a last minute inclusion
>Her entire custom PC build debacle and the importance of contracts and agreed upon arrangements
>Telling her fans she fired the same management team she was hyping up all year
>Telling her fans more trauma of being police escorted out of her home
Then yes, Doki is exactly the same person as she was in Nijisanji English

>>101355044
Hyte wasn't involved. You seem to be missing major key details
>>101355094
Very true. Nijisanji was not fulfilling their end of the contract, as they refused to respond to internal harassment claims.

>>101355178
True. If I make up a bunch of shit that didn't happen, it WOULD be much easier to make a case against Dokibird.

>>101355184
>>101355063
https://tiltify.com/@dokibird/auctions/dokicharity2024/a13e2fd3-e1fd-47f7-a13b-72fcc20a7a7f

>>101325119 (OP)
Allowing talents to do this, even if they volunteered, is completely baffling.
Any proof they felt the need to make public should have been done through faceless posts.

>>101355218
>If I make up a bunch of shit that didn't happen
So you literally never watch Doki, got it

>>101355242
Fagoons like doing this thing when they ignore reality and start projecting

>>101355231
My guess is it was "volunteering" in that corporate sense
At least for Ike, but Vox was out because she was recording their convos and Elira seemed to never like her to begin with

>>101355242
>interpret everything to make sure Doki comes out looking bad
And you do?

>>101325299
>Mindless slave race willing to die for their corpo overlords
No wonder they are going extinct.

>>101355257
>>101355242
>exactly 1min apart
You're not very good at this.

>>101355275
>If you aren't lapping at her feet, willing to accept her- then you HATE her
I actually love that retarded gremlin, but I also am not gonna pretend she doesn't have terrible traits that carried over into her indie life

>>101355297
All the while harping about nothingburgers at tournaments? Nobody ever cared. The only thing that even had one iota of potential to make her look bad was the PC case debacle, and she came out smelling like roses because no proof of WIPs was ever given beyond the initial mockup.
Again, you're full of shit.

>>101355225
Hyte weren't involved in designing and assembling the custom PC from the charity auction at all. I bet you just looked at your pic related, saw "Hyte" and made assumptions.

>>101355352
>I don't think these things happened
>>Yes they did
>WOW THEY'RE NOTHING BURGERS
No one said they were drama you retard, it's just an observation that -with or without NijiEN- Selen/Doki does shit that is independent of "management" meddling. It's just her
Accept she's a flawed human and love her for it, or be another retarded fagoon and think she's infallible

>>101355383
No one said they were dipshit
It's literally a Hyte chassis case

>>101355399
>fagoon
The mask of a nijinigger management dickrider comes off SO easy.

>>101355453
No, you guys are literally just faggots in how much you refuse to think doki can/does/will mess up on occasion
I get "defending your oshi" but this is Sinder levels of -do no wrong-

>>101355471
Because the cases you've listed are actually not her fault, idiot.

>>101355481
>I get "defending your oshi" but this is Sinder levels of -do no wrong-

>>101355494
Anon, are you okay? Do you need time to take your meds?

>>101348134
kek

>>101325173
>Killed the branch
>Boys are still pulling 5K viewers
one day I'll see a take above room temperature IQ

>>101360776
>Boys

>>101360776
>Boys are still pulling 5K bots
ftfy

>>101325299
>nips on side with anycolor
And the water make things wet

>>101325119 (OP)
I believe Elira. Doki looks like a tranny.

>>101325119 (OP)
Yeah, it was

>>101325119 (OP)
No, but people crave villains to gang on.

>>101353534
It's the first hit on YouTube if you search for "Nijisanji black screen"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o65VwnQvWW4

>>101353534
>>101366804
make sure to watch the neopets stream alongside it for live doki reaction
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1YCUbQOJB0

>>101366739
>no
If you ignore all the way that it affected them, sure

>>101325119 (OP)
irreparable damage that will follow the branch forever. I see hot cosplay girls on twitter that still get a wave of backlash in the replies when they try to dress up as Elira in 2025
Ironically, the Niji fans themselves are worse than the antis

>>101325299
>the japanese
>as if westroons aren't also trying to be le hecking wholesome nijibloods hiding from the evil nazi holocrips after this incident
Japs ARE mentally ill antpeople, but lets not kid ourselves.

>>101325299
Japanese always side with the corp over the individual.

>Black screen stream happens
>Dookie STFU's and NEVER brings up Nijisanji ever again
>All pretenses of any kind of lawsuit die
It did its job, put a muzzle on that fat piece of shit.

>>101370710
She never brought Nijisanji up before the stream, though.

They shot themselves for no reason

>>101325119 (OP)
yes it was

>>101370710
>the black stream's job was to save Doki the trouble of having to file a lawsuit to destroy the branch
play stupid games, win stupid prizes

>>101353621
Well what was it? I was around when it happened, I just ignored Niji drama at the time

>>101373462
How do you think a silent, black screen would cause any drama?

>>101370710
So true, imagine if Niji had failed to silence her. She might have gone around damaging their reputation or something. Dodged that bullet.

>>101373597
Sisters are fucked

>>101370710
Except Doki did respond (Remember "I have receipts?") and then Niji STFU. If anything, Niji tried to bark back and Doki held up the shock collar.

>>101374015
Can you post Doki's response?

>>101325119 (OP)
Roastie bump

>>101366739
I don't know, this was pretty bad. You didn't have to hate anyone involved to see it that way.

>>101374015
Actually I remember Doki saying " I will show receipts" then she STFU after she actually watched the stream then threw herself another pity party


Where's the receipts, Dookie?

>>101377544
>Oh no she didn't showed private company information that would get her ass sued and cost hers lost of money in a legal battle she's a lying bitch!!!!!!!!!!!! Our glorious Nijisanji was right on firing her!!!!!!!!!

>>101366739
>>101370710
>>101377544
I wonder how it feels to be this delusional.

>>101377738
>Nijisanji shut up because they're afraid of Doki's receipts
>Actually Doki was afraid of Nijisanji's receipts and lied about showing her own
>But that's because they'd have sued her and only would have theoretically won because they're rich

King of fagoon cope

>>101377788
just be a nijinigger

>>101377788
I think the funniest part is that he probably thinks more about Doki than Dragoons.

>>101378827
Considering how attached the dragoons are, that's quite a feat, but I believe it.

>>101380353
>Fagoon being proud of being no lives emotionally attached to a fat mentally ill women
Super grim

>>101380410
What does that make you then

>>101380484
Better than you

>>101380570
For seething more hours in a day than one of her fans spends supporting her? Your parents must be so proud

>>101325904
kek, dream on holofag. All of the good livers are still there, back to gaining subs, all the dead weight is gone. It did literally nothing. nijiEN was already swirling the bowl before that stream, if anything they've made a resurgence now. Pomu was the real domino, if she stayed it'd be fine. The backlash was mainly due to both of them being gone.

>>101380977
>we never liked Ike anyway

>>101380665
As opposed to BPDbird's parents thinking she's worthless

>>101327348
pretty based you mean

>>101381264
every day I thank god for not making me a nijinig

>>101381037
>taking asian parents' opinions seriously
ngmi

>>101377822
Proof next thread sis?

NijiEN management might be a mess, but the way she avoids female friendships irl and the world is somehow always against her are huge red flags. she is at least not pleasant to work with

>>101381512
>girl has stories of women being treacherous snakes to her, distrusts them because of it
>Distrustful women with a history of backstabbing feel offended
She's friends with the ones who matter.

>>101326246
No its not. You can read up on Americans calling Japanese gooks in WWII and filipinos that in the late 19th century and even US military personnel calling Haitians that in the 19th century.

>>101382522
this isnt ww2 or 19th century

>>101380570
You're right Anon. I could only dream of being as obsessed with Doki as you are, you're much better at it than I am.

>>101381649
>Didn't even tell Gumi where she moved to
>Tried to rag on her for missing DAD's birthday
>'Whoops I deleted the message that has my new address'
Nah something is genuinely wrong with Doki, she goes out of her way to not have friends

>>101325119 (OP)
Yes considering without the bots propping the corpse of NijisanjiEN up most of their EN organs went from high 3 views/low 4 views to extremely low 3 views even among their "Golden 20".
What's worse is they're in a death spiral, With LuxNoc (the most menhera and popular gens) now slowly falling apart and the fact Anycolor hasn't tried to build up any of the other gens, they're two major graduations from being ID/KR/IN'd

>>101325119 (OP)
Absolutely. My mother is in her 50s and only watches crime docs and lawyers on youtube found out about this shit. I don't even live at home anymore so i couldn'tve even infected her search history with it. I only found out from her because she asked me if i new what vtubers were because she knew i liked anime

All of Nijisanji EN is negligible. Sasuga Riku bravo