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>MIND CRAFT HOLO EN

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>Music
>Zodiac

https://cover.lnk.to/ZODIAC
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>Pandæmonium:

https://cover.lnk.to/HakosBaelzEP
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mt5oe3kK56NcJWqUc3EYMvnsJ7ir8f9P0
>Originals:

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLcPAszg2ItaF6wFT6Yc49o7ZQY-pTJJeH

>Covers:

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLcPAszg2ItaGAkxKIUiTTtgekfmgMmmEQ

>Podcast

https://rentry.org/BrewinWBae

>Bae's Twitter

https://twitter.com/hakosbaelz

>Art Tags

Twitter:
https://twitter.com/hashtag/BaelzBrush
https://twitter.com/hashtag/ベーアート
Danbooru: https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts?tags=hakos_baelz
Pixiv: https://www.pixiv.net/en/tags/ハコス・ベールズ/artworks

>Getting Started

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Hoards all your tickets :)

Previous bread
>>101378219

>Previous Stream: Unarchived karaoke
(archive)
https://archives.alwayswait.ing/hololive/hakosbaelz/2025-06-21T15%3A01Z/

>Current stream: Ace attorney #4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMxpygJIREg

Thanks for za bread!

>>101452693
Scalp harder, we need to ensure all of the seats are for Brats only.

Gonna be funny to see some of you guys die or get wounded at the venue.

Bae WILL last more than 2 hours in this case today

+10 (breakfast)

>>101453787
bae loves her sandwich more than me...

tello

RAT ON THE TOILET

She is so done with this case already

Baetyan this is prison breakfast without the upper half of the sandwich

You know if she ever reaches Apollo Justice Trilogy years later, I hope Trucy doesn't give her PTSD from this case.

>>101454270
Trucy a CUTE

The ringmaster is just a little metro and wanted to experiment with his wardrobe Bae come on

>>101454290
CUTE!

>>101454270
I love magic maya so fucking much bros she's such a fun sidekick I literally just finished AJ like 2 hours ago

>>101452693
>Sets up lottery to scalp tickets

Oh, I forgot he was reciting the lyrics to The Fresh Prince whenever Franziska whips him.

Bae's about to hate Moe a lot fucking more when she learns the gimmick to this testimony

>>101452618 (OP)
This stream reminded me; did Bae ever do a collab with polka in her Chuni outfit? I like that they share similar eye effects.

I fucking love that she still keeps up the german voice for the judge

>>101454714
I don't think so, afaik the last time she even did a stream with Polka at all was when she did bungee jumping on Polden which is a real shame because I'd love to see more of them

Baetyanchama your brain..

>>101454936
to be fair it's much harder to use your brain if you are bored and suffering

God even all the twists in this case are so uninteresting. Both of these first two have just been
>I saw him
>No you didn't
>AAAAAAAAIIIIIEEEEE YOU'RE RIGHT I DIDN'T

>>101455101
The culprit and the motive were just as bad. Bae just has to push through in order to reach kino that is the last case of JFA.

>Please don't tell me he flew?
Weeelll

>You lied? that's fine, let's carry on

>Revealing his magician's tricks
Trucy would use Mr. Hat to strangle this fucking man

>>101455216
>The culprit and the motive were just as bad
They’re fine, it’s just not big enough of a payoff for all this stupid shit

>>101455549
Strangling is way too simple; it's a gramarye to commit murder with magic and mystery

>>101455683
That's why it's bad, the only one that matches it is the truth of the murderer from Clussy

You know, as much of an awful case this is, Max motivation to drive the other members of the Circus to do bigger and better things is the one positive thing about it.

hehe bae was thinking of boobies

Did people let her know the next case is like top2 in the entire series? I really hope she knows to help her get through this

>>101456075
Yeah she's aware the next one is a banger

oh shit is something actually happening in this god forsaken case?

>>101456075
>>101456091
Well, she's got some interest in the mystery. And yeah, her chunni outfit really is on point with this episode.

ABORT ABORT BAE HAS DETECTED A NEW SHIP

Kek, she lit up once she heard of Miles.

Thank god they started doing main story stuff again with edgeworth here, it's fully grabbed Bae's attention back

Now she's motivated

>>101456055
As mediocre as the anime adaptation is (as you’d expect from any adaptation), one of the few things it got right was fixing some of the issues for this case. It mostly glosses over all the annoying/awful shit, and then plays up the characters more. IIRC Max actually was trying to get a raise for the whole team to motivate them, and you get to see a bit more of Moe just being this regular dude cracking under the pressure of what’s going on. It’s crazy how close we came to having an actual decent case, only to end up with such shit

>Bae is thirsting over cripple boy

>>101456327
Muscles are muscles. Cripple or not

>>101456327
He reminds her of Mumei, poor thing.

Welp looks like I'm taking gymnastics classes...at 36...

>>101456376
Fuck you I laughed

>>101456376
Fucking kek fuck you

>>101456382
You also have to look as handsome as another spandex wearing gymnast to get Bae attention

Why the hell did they leave all this interesting stuff for the second half of the case

The clowns have finally reeled Bae back in to this case

>Save scummed for the fucking monke

The case really is starting to pick up

>>101452693
You scalpers suck ass

THE BITE OF 87?

>>101456978

Oh fuck Bae's cooking

>>101456425
wtf this post was prophetic

>Please don't tell me he was also in love with Regina
>He was in love with her
What makes this girl so special?

>>101457116
Oh shit

>>101457152
My rrat is she's a Johan Liebert level manipulator

Bae really saying it's good Bat is in a coma

>>101457210
It's a nice rrat but in the end, she's just stupid

>tfw the main lesson of this case is "People die when they are killed"

The only person who shouldn't be a jail is the actual murderer.
Kinda funny once Bae realizes this once the case is over.

>”Acro is the only one who shouldn’t be in jail!”
kek

Bros I'm starting to think Shaun deserved it

Ok Bae you don't have to do this every single time

>>101457350
>>101457359
She's gonna be bewildered and even more pissed at the case

>Bae pretending she didn't have a high school girlfriend who was fucking a 22 year old tradie

>>101457385
Maybe it's hitting too close to home, and iirc she also had a tangent over Sailor Moon and Tuxedo's Mask relationship iirc.

>>101457371
Bros our brrat might be a virtue signaler...

>>101457371
>>101457484
I forget, but what was Reine's reaction, the same, I would guess? Even ignoring the age, it's still weird for every guy who's not a father figure, and Acro is in love with Regina.

Acro might be the best character in the case solely because he actually drives the plot forward

>>101457564
He also drives the overall narrative JFA goes for with slightly blurring the lines of Justice having two killers who while doing something obviously wrong just wanted some form of retribution, ending with a Killer who completely flips everything Phoenix has done

>>101457562
I don't know about all the other times but I just looked quick at this one with Bat and it seems like she didn't even pretend to care. Also I don't remember her hating this case nearly as much as Bae has.

>>101457674
Bae is enjoying the second half of this case wdym?

>>101457694
This, she only hates the most annoying parts that everyone else does, just a little more vocal over every guy in the circus wanting to bang the underage girl.

>>101457694
Until Acro came in she was COMPLETELY uninterested in this case once Regina's age came into play.

>>101457694
Yeah now, but she hasn't acted anywhere close to they way she did for the rest of it for any other case before.

>>101457740
It's not just her age, it's everything else that sucks about this case

>>101457753
What this Brat said, the case is just bad, Regina's age is a small thing that only the outrage crowd focuses on. Hell, you don't even know about her age unless you look it up, since it's never brought up.

>>101457753
No she most certainly took her first dive in interest when that came in. The other parts were just dressing.

>>101457827
Anon I assure you that if the characters were compelling and not abhorrently annoying, she wouldn't be as turned off as she was.
The characters in this case a literal charisma void. Hard to show interest at that stage

>>101457846
She literally said it was a good thing Bat was in a coma because of the age thing. She's never met him to be annoyed by him

I like it when my rat starts braining

oh shit bae figured it all out

>>101457914
That was very clearly a funny dark humor joke

>IT'S THE FOOKING MONKEY AGAIN

>20lbs
>Quite heavy

>>101458033
This woman can only bench 15 pounds... please understand

>>101458033
they're all part of the noodle arm gang

A
FUCKING
MONKEY?!?!?!??!?!?!?!

>>101458240
SHE'S /HERE/

You know what this game's pursuit theme has really come around for me, I think I like it better than T&T's

>>101458385
It's still no AA Pursuit though

[Concerning news]
Bae is thinking REALLY hard

>>101458385
It's starting to grow on me but it does not even begin to compare to Cornered or pressing pursuit

>>101458385
It really does capture that "oh shit what the fuck is going on" feel of some of these twists

>>101458418
she's cooking herself too hard

>>101458494
It's funny how she has already spelled the answer out

aaaieee bae actually likes this case

>>101458559
No she probably still hates it. If she was asked to rank the cases so far this would make her last place for certain

>Acro's entire plan was just to drop a rock on a nigga and he only got away with it so long because it accidentally hooked a cloak on the way back up

>>101458604
>dude doesn't even admit that it was him because fuck max, that nigga deserves prison

>remember the testimony of some fucking clown from the previous day
she's cooked, this case is so dumb.

>>101458584
I feel bad for the guy, going out like that

>>101458591
Who even places this case high? It's only fair that it would be Bae's least favorite.

>inb4 it's only because she found out about Regina's age

>>101458716
there's a few people that honestly like it for the theming and the ideas of the case, then there's also the extra bonus of "Takumi made it so it's Kino"
But the series would later take this concept and do it better in a fucking DLC case.

I get an erection everytime Bae says “press” during the testimony

Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't Bat actually dead in the Japanese version?

>IT'S JUST A PRANK BRO

>>101459231
Retarded people should be held liable

>>101459209
nah

HOLY KINO EXPLOSION

>>101459257
Funny thing is this isn't the last time we'll see circus family drama.

BIG GUY

This is fucking hilarious

Yeah, she's right, how was he able to hide the bust underneath his wheelchair?

This finale is actually surprisingly touching wtf

>>101459585
The final part of the case is the only good part

she HATES it

Thick chick sure is cool with the dude who accidentally murdered her fucking dad while trying to crush her skull for a prank she was too retarded to understand the consequences of

Holy shit Bae's going feral over Edgeworth

>Edgewroth tease
And with that, SHE'S BACK.

sploosh

Just when I think I'm out
They REEL me back in

>>101459838
The next one is amazing

Congratulations Bae, you were able to get through suffering the worst case in the trilogy.

>Have to go to an idol meeting
Bae really needed a chance in underwear huh?

Can't wait till she meets the astronaut next case

>>101459893
I forgot about that one for a second and was wondering how you jumped ahead 3 games.

Is she almost done E33 yet? That game honestly just is not doing it for me compared to the other series she has going on

>>101459893
God if she wasn't there the case would be the number one best case in the franchise

I genuinely forgot to check, are Justice in this concert?

Bae you can't just drop the "Kronii and I's" anniversary like that
My precious council...

>>101452693
why are brats so rapeable?

>Beating the DLC post nerf
You didn't beat the game.

>>101459973
It's one of those games that's more fun to play than it is to watch. JRPGs in general.

>Bragging to Bae about scalping
Alright dude

This is so fucking awkward holy shit

>>101460394
Desu I feel like it should be a manager's job to debrief talents if something like this happened

what was all that about even?

>>101460472
tldr. the bae fancord got really into the larp of fighting a war for tickets at the expense of everyone else and held incentives to gather discord members to mass buy as many tickets as possible so they could redistribute them among unlucky brats who couldn't get their seats in time in order to fight scalpers

This is a noble cause at face value but on the other hand it's taking away potential tickets from other fans just as much as it does scalpers and news of the whole thing broke to twitter which caused other fangroups to start freaking out as to them, a bunch of tickets were taken away unfairly to be given out at the discretion of the bae discord clique, which is shitty. And even worse, many fear that this will lead to other fanbases following suit with this strategy in the future and now future concerts will be a battle between all fanbases buying far more tickets than they intend to use to then dole out to people of their choosing rather than a fair "fight"

>>101460217
I'm honestly so sick of devs rushing to nerf things like this. They even added difficulties to the game after saying they wouldn't, there's no reason to still nerf things after that.

I'm the one who smacked Bae's butt btw

>>101460783
t'was me

How the fuck did we get to Bae's parental abuse stories

>>101460844
I don't know but it's great

>>101460844
She was talking about disciplining the brats for the ticket shit

I'm glad Bae's been so hyped up on the next case, that hopefully means it won't take another month for the next AA weekend

Rate the end of the berry big cirACHOO ACHOO ACHOO WHEEZE AAAHHH MY FUCKING HEAD JUST GOT BIT OFF

>>101461438
Holy fuck this case sucks a- IS THAT EDGEWORTH?!???/10
Also my rat handled the discord shit really well. She's such a sweetheart

>>101461438
Dogshit ass piece of shit case until the second half and then it was ok / 10
PLEASE BAE STREAM THIS AGAIN SOON I NEED FAREWELL MY TURNABOUT / 10
Bae cute / 10

>>101461471
Yeah I was genuinely really impressed at how she handled the situation and how much respect she showed for her brats. Love this little rrat

>>101460634
>This is a noble cause at face value
Naw this guy's a stupid nigger. Not just for their shitty holo v holo behavior, but also for being retarded enough post this in public chat for everyone to see.

I get the feeling the discord will still think they didn't do anything wrong, even after what Bae said.

>>101461645
Salted was and will be always be a faggot

>>101461645
from what I've read, they made the tickets an open lottery for all fans even before Bae made the address

>>101461645
The most upsetting part of the whole ordeal is that you know Bae is now going to go scrolling through twitter more after stream to see all the vile shit that was being slung at her fans because of the incident and she's going to find a way to mental gymnastics it back into blaming herself

>>101461688
Yeah they got so much blowback from twitter and reddit once they found out that they immediately caved and scrapped their brat priority system

How they plan to distribute the tickets fairly outside of that now is anyone's guess

>>101461700
Christ I really hope not. Hyper victim lesbians on twitter do not deserve to be taken seriously

>>101461688
BVTM already set the narrative. There are apologies floating around from the salted and the other brat, but they'll never completely undo the damage of their rhetoric. The original post has 1M+ views.

>>101461777
I hope BVTM gets ass cancer and also that Venezuelan cunt in the comments. I hope that particular faggot gets skinned alive and fed to dogs

>>101461688
How come I don't see any evidence of this?
>>101461777
Again, how come I have yet to see any of this?

>>101461777
Of course it all comes back to that fucking slime as the source of the mental turmoil currently afflicting my rat

>>101461801
What Venny?

>>101461809
The apologies came out hours later. They're floating around, but here please share them:

https://x.com/chattinilawyer/status/1936623846242603075
https://x.com/Errordee/status/1936624355905266105

>>101461777
this whole thing happen because of ticketmaster and scalper
I hope that point didn't get lost in the end

>>101461863
I kind of hate everyone involved in this situation on both sides actually, fancords and twitterbeasts should both explode

>>101461552
Ignoring the group buying itself and just regarding the wording used there, Saltedbread's words weren't meant as a slight to other fans but just him being a chuuni retard. I have been in the bratcord before and they have rather extreme banter in that server. Shit like this is normal in there but might come as outlandish to outsiders
99% of the server wants to be fucked to death by Bae and get their vertebrae cracked by her thighs

>>101461952
I think he needs to decide between being a lolxD chuuni retard or a face the fan discord with thousands of members.
This dipshit doesn't even have a twitter account to run his own damage control.

I will murder and publicly mutilate any of these namefags quote retweeting and melting down under that dramafags tweet if I see them engaging in similar activities they are criticizing in the future
I'm going to save every single screencap from now on

>>101462062
Yeah the big problem here was the disconnect between volunteering to be the face of an entire community and not understanding that you also need to act professionally and not be a silly larper while doing that because to anyone outside of your immediate circle you look like a malicious retard

>>101462084
The epidemic of these despicable dramafags who smelled blood in the water and slithered in to stir as much shit as possible at the expense of the girls pisses me off so much

>>101462097
I hope that guy doesn't fuck off, he needs to stay active in that discord and rein in his cohorts

https://x.com/hakosbaelz/status/1936662660994740377

Aw man she's definitely just reading up on everything and making herself feel bad now...

yeesh, the fuck is wrong with this guy. he just posted some dumb maga shit under her last post too (which is how I noticed him)

I just looked in on the discord and holy shit that was a mistake. They're doubling down on how they aren't to blame, they were pure intentioned little snowflakes, and how working with other groups isn't worth attempting. In short, they learned nothing from this.

Some guy even came in and explained that the JP communities expressly forbid this and their response was "So? We're not JP".

>>101462508
>Some guy even came in and explained that the JP communities expressly forbid this and their response was "So? We're not JP".

Fucking kek there's no way these people are real
Nobody else engages in shitty practices like this for a reason how do you still not realize it after the whole community turns against you

>>101462508
Seppuku or they dishonor their oshi and get farmed by dramafags

There's this massive retard in her comment section spreading misinformation in every reply

>>101462570
Currently everyone involved is coping to the max about how they weren't wrong in what they did, giga paypig man is trying to damage control that he actually didn't know the details all along and it's not his fault, and the admin is completely MIA probably with a gun to his temple

>>101462570
I don't think they'll ever understand honestly. I saw some of the most jaded "Fuck the other communities" mentality even after Bae said what she said. When suggesting that next time they should work with other groups, the response was "Why?" No thoughts beyond that.

>>101462682
I have no idea how they've even managed to get that insular, I love all my hooman and deadbeat and pebble etc etc bros and this weird brats vs. everyone mentality that's just stewing now feels like it's come out of nowhere

I genuinely want to ask why you fuckers thought this was a good idea or how nobody would find out about it. I know some of you are in here. Are you idiots?

>>101462508
So basically, discord once again proves itself to be an echo chamber for cliques. These people aren't even real fans at this point holy shit

I feel like there are one or two dramafags here who should fuck off

>>101462749
Oh no, go fuck yourself, everybody is rightfully justified to be pissed at you fuckers.

Man I wish that utter retard had just deleted his superchat before Bae got to it so at least she could've been spared this autism

>>101462747
niggers took "all for one" literally

>>101462730
No clue but it also doesn't sound like they're going to stop doing it either. I would assume next year they lock down and do it again. Nothing was learned.
>>101462747
Discords a shit.

https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/archive/superchat/jMxpygJIREg.html Y'all managed to kill Hololyzer.

This will all blow over in a couple days

>>101462817
Works on my machine

>>101462905
It died for a minute.

So it's gonna be lottery next year because of these retards, huh

>>101462926
You honestly think Cover cares enough to change how this shit works? No way in hell. It'll be the same as it always has been.

>>101462570
I don't even know how a sweet girl like bae managed to attract these "fuck everyone else we did nothing wrong" types

>>101463090
Not to defend the hoarding but they aren't wrong. Every single discord has done this for the past few years. It only became a problem now

>>101463135
Nah, fuck that if your friend jumps you jump too mentality

>>101463135
And? Just because someone else is a dick doesn't give you the right to also be a dick.

>>101463135
Most people are just upset by language. The few people arguing over the concept of group buys are just a vocal minority.

>>101463204
>>101463211
I'm not defending it. I'm saying that the people criticizing them are complete hypocrites because they do the same thing
I think all cords are shit and I hope these retards learn their lesson

>>101463239
>people criticizing them are complete hypocrites because they do the same thing
How do you know that? This just seems like deflection

>>101463239
Did you consider that people complaining now might not be regular discord users? That they may not belong to any group at all?
>>101463236
That's not true at all. Stop trying to deflect from shitty behavior.

>>101463254
Tell me how you've never in a cord without telling me that
>>101463263
I am cursed with the knowledge of recognizing way too many cordfags on twitter screeching about this thing

>>101463285
Yes, I am not a discord tranny, thank you for noticing

>>101463285
Jesus christ you are sounding more and more like a faggot as you go on. Upset that other brats are calling you out?

It wouldn't even be that big a deal if the scale wasn't so large. You wanna make sure you and your friends can get tickets? Fine. But 450 tickets? That's too much.

>>101463320
You mega retard. I think what they did was scummy but the twitter trannies mad at them aren't better. Learn to fucking read

>>101463135
Name a discord that bought 450 tickets. Go ahead I'll wait. They bought more tickets than they had confirmed buyers for.

>>101463358
Good lord you're retarded. My mistake, I shouldn't have engaged with you.

>>101463263
There's nothing malicious about a group of friends buying tickets for themselves. If they buy what they use and keep it to themselves it's fine. If they decide to turn into some sort of scalper gang then it's a problem.
Their inflammatory language upset a lot of people and has biased people into being upset about the concept of group buys. There's nothing wrong with helping secure tickets for your friends.

If you're upset then just go lobby to Cover to reduce the ticket sale limits to 1-2 per customer. Ultimately it's their policy to allow customers to purchase 8 tickets at a time which will enable the behavior you so dislike. There's no way to argue people out of doing this. All they'll simply do is perform the buy in private. There's no way to know it happened without someone admitting it.

>>101463358
Except they objectively are better, because one side is proven to be doing this shit while the other doing this shit is only your headcanon

>>101463353
Yeah I think that's the whole sticking point of this whole situation. Get like 10 people to buy a couple extra tickets for your friends? Not a problem, everyone does that

Organize 70+ people to buy up to 8 tickets each so that you can then personally dole them out as you please? Now you're getting to cringe territory

>>101463410
Yeah you can fuck off shitcunt
>>101463430
and keep sucking off your discord boyfriends faggot

its alright brats, its not your fault but you still need to take the L for this
everyone knows the rule next time
every fancord will organize

Yeah, fuck you guys

>>101463448
Oh...you're one of them doing damage control, aren't you? How cute~

>>101463436
Look if they had 450 people signed up and ready to go, maybe that would have been better. I still think it's shitty but whatever. But their original plans and now the plans to distribute them now shows they always intended to have a bunch of extra tickets, which meant they were hoarding them.

>>101463502
I already figured you were a homosexual, no need to double down on it

>>101463502
Go back to twitter dramafag or start your own thread bitching about discord and ticket bullshit.

You're shitting up the thread trying to argue about discord drama with us.

>>101462508
>Some guy even came in and explained that the JP communities expressly forbid this and their response was "So? We're not JP".
apparently thats not just a holo thing but a real jp idol thing and like a seriously big deal with idols having told blocks of fans to fuck off and leave the concert cause of it before

Discord has been a fucking disaster for fan communities and the internet at large.

>>101463595
The point is they don't care.

>>101463613
>>101463595
Sounds like Bae needs to do some serious tardwrangling. If this escalates further it could really harm her reputation.

>>101452693
If they keep to their word and actually sell the tickets at prices they said they would, this is one hell of a power move against the harmful scalpers. This might be the start of ethical scalping. Also rubbing shit into the faces of people who hate Bae for collabing with Holostars and saying that her fans aren't supporting her.

>>101463635
She's too sweet to do so. She tried, but they clearly didn't get the message, and probably won't. The worst thing in all this is Bae will see it as a failing on her part. Brats, if you're reading this and you took part, please don't make Bae cry.

>>101463595
from global
>It's one of the biggest "sins" possible when it comes to JP idol concerts and has been EXTREMELY looked down upon for probably just about as long as they've existed at all. There's been idols in the past that have straight up called their own fans out for it live on stage telling them to leave and not to support them any longer. It's a BIG deal in the JP otaku culture circles.
>Holos probably would never be this hardcore, but when it comes to the JP fanbases Brats are very much so all the way down in the shitter now. What makes it even worse is that the main people involved in that Discord don't even seem to realize what they did was fucked up and shitty. There hasn't even been a single apology or anything of the sort.

>>101463647
The problem was never them hoarding the tickets and selling them back at price. The problem was hoarding the tickets and ONLY selling them to other members of the discord BEFORE anyone else, with the stated goal of making a sea of red.

>>101463647
hoarding and gatekeeping tickets to people who travel to their discord is nigger shit

the tickets aren't even being scalped anymore there is more supply than demand

Just going to post my rat, don't mind me.

>>101462823
I really don't think so.
It will die down again for a little, sure, but it will go into fucking overdrive when the concert is close and unless the girls make a united stand against it telling their fans to cut it out it's going to be fucking hell next year with half the discords all trying to compete against each other by buying more tickets than anyone else

>>101463659
A part of oshikatsu is leaving room for new people to discover and love your oshi too. You're not helping your oshi by being a selfish bastard.

>>101463647
If you have to be on a Discord to get the tickets, it's still shitty. Even though they've "opened it up" now, you still have to be on one of the Discords they're dealing with to get those.

>>101463635
all bae need to do is say she didn't condone this and that brats need to be better
that's it
everything else after that should go through cover

>>101463713
I think you're confused sir, what you've just posted is an image depicting MY rat

>>101463714
I don't care about anything else but I am genuinely terrified that other EN fanbases are going to see this and go "oh yeah we can do that too" next time
Tickets are already hellish enough to fight for without needing to pledge yourself to a 20 sided faction war

>>101463735
She did already
>I DON'T APPROVE, DON'T MAKE ME BRING OUT THE SLIPPER
Granted she was sweet about it. I hope these fucktards get the message

>>101463735
Cover can't and won't do anything, it was all technically above board - just dishonorable as all hell in an environment where mutual respect is very important.
And you know Bae saying to "do better" isn't going to do anything.
This is the kind of situation where she needs to take a serious step back and think about what she wants her fanbase to be like, if she doesn't take a hard stance against this and either gets them in line or casts them out it has the very real potential to hurt both her and us a ton in the long term

>>101463762
Then explain why she sent me this tummy pic? This is MY rat who loves sending ME pics

>>101463855
I don't know what you want bae to do about it, she already has said her piece and insisted that her fans be the brats she wants them to be and remain respectful and mindful of all the other fanbases who want to support their oshis
The problem is the people she's telling this to don't want to hear it and are refusing to accept they did anything wrong

>>101463855
We shouldn't be held responsible for the acts of Discord niggers.

>>101463888
My mistake, my rat is the one with the big fat rat tats and not the nerfed assets
Carry on brrat

>>101463915
Yeah, but that's how it works. People will think about this shit every time they think about Bae and the Brats and live concerts now. It's really shit because she isn't at fault but will still get a lot of flak for it and just saying to be mindful of others and whatever without even putting the problem out there and talking about what happened isn't even an attempt to fix it

>>101463915
>>101464040

>>101463903
>its ok to do all that because we're fighting scalpers
this is what they actually believe

>>101463959
>nerfed assets
She makes up for it with the rat butt anyways

>>101464040
It's not her fault but she definitely needs to take a hard line against this, even if it means publicly scolding some fans.

>>101463135
If every fancord had hundreds of tickets we'd know because there'd be no tickets to buy without being on discord

>>101463135
No. This is strictly discouraged, ESPECIALLY in the JP fancords. Otherwise Hoshiyomi would just have every concert ever on lockdown.

>>101463647
>Also rubbing shit into the faces of people who hate Bae for collabing with Holostars and saying that her fans aren't supporting her.
This isn't a fucking sololive. By doing this shit, they piss off every other fanbase. This isn't something that can be considered selfless in any context but the narcissist. You don't pull this kind of shit and think fair's fair. The value of future events is now up in jeopardy because of these idiots.

How can you even remotely think there is a way to make this sound good? And how gullible are you to think every single ticket hoarded is going to be "randomly" given out at the price expected? You think favoritism isn't going to play a part? You're not going to be able to follow every fucking ticket that leaves that server.

Bro, shut the fuck up.

>>101464175
>hundreds
What? no. It was done on a lower scale like 80-70 tickets
Even now the Kronii and Nerissacord are doing this
>>101464208
Yes and I'm saying this is a problem in the EN fandom.

>>101463855
if she gonna talk more about it, I'm hoping she'll do it a few days after the concert
cause right now everything is a mess and her voice will be lost in this nonsense

>>101463135
Provide proof.

>>101464237
Buying tickets when you have a set number of buyers before hand is a group buy. If you have 80 or 70 people who are all committed and can go and will go and go in together to buy 80 or 70 tickets fine. They bought 450 tickets. They don't have near 450 people confirmed.

>>101464237
>Even now the Kronii and Nerissacord are doing this
and of course you have proof of this

>Bae has already been dealing with that incident with Papa Brat
> Bae losing her voice
> Bae getting tired
> Now Brats making her stressed with this ticket redistribution shit

I'd be surprised if she can stream tomorrow, because you guys really did a number on her

>>101463135
>but they aren't wrong
People have not been doing that, or if they did it was at a way way way smaller scale with just a few friends trying to get their 5 tickets so the group could go together, not 450 tickets for an entire Discord server.

>>101464291
The discords are public. I'm not going to take screencaps and give BVTM who's lurking every corner of the board more ammo

>>101462730
Yeah I'm not really understanding this either. This is a level of spite that is incredibly unwarranted.

People don't have issue with a group buy, people have issues with actual hoarding and a potential arms race next concert

>>101464319
good deflection, 7.8/10

>>101464266
There's none because they aren't retarded enough to talk shit and make a stink about it like the baecord retards.

The concept of buying tickets for your friends isn't something new. They let people buy 8 tickets at a time for a reason.

>>101462730
No offense but this is really just coming from the head mod and his lackeys
Even Yayoi voiced his discontent for this hoarding in the cord

>>101464334
There's none. Full stop. Don't accuse without providing receipts.

>>101464288
>If you have 80 or 70 people who are all committed and can go and will go and go in together to buy 80 or 70 tickets fine
Even that is really not okay though. It not being as bad as what they did doesn't make it okay

>>101464332
>other discords didn't yab as hard as my oshi's discord so it doesn't exist

retard

>>101464209
>Do thing that ensures scalpers get fucked
>Worst case some people pay slightly above purchase price rather than the exuberant prices of the scalpers
>Anon: This is worse!
You're a scalper getting buttfucked aren't you anon?
>>101464328
>Fancords organize to buy and divide as many tickets among each other as possible
>THIS IS UNFAIR
lmao rahter than an arms race interconnected organization among fan discords would ensure more tickets go to the fans rather thn scalper middlemen.

>>101464302
We didn't do shit. It's Discord troons. I don't use Discord and a lot of people don't as well. That's the problem.
>>101464357
I agree with you actually but that's another conversation and this is already spiraling and going to take up the next few threads.

>>101464367
Provide. Proof.

>>101464319
The fuck is a bvtm?

You sound dumb, but not as retarded as the idiots still arguing.

>>101464343
I don't buy for a second that that dude didn't know what was going on given how integrated into bae's community he is. I'd bet $100 he's just backpeddling now to save face because he's now realized he's done something that would make bae like him slightly less and that has made him suicidal

>>101464378
Not giving bvtm ammo to start drama against other holo discords. They're public discords go look yourself.

>>101464392(me)
>>101464302
Well shit, I guess I am too

>>101464373
you're a lost cause

>>101464392
Hey don't call me dumb man that's not berry nice of you

>>101464119
They think “do better” means they should have bought more tickets and its their fault for getting caught

>>101464380
brown vt memes

>>101464406
So there's no proof, gotcha. Now kindly fuck off with this everybody is as bad as we are narrative

>>101464402
That would require self awareness which Salted absolutely does not have.

>>101463819
They did not.

>>101464456
I wish I had a girlfriend as dedicated as you are to sucking off cordfags and defend them

desu the one thing i take from all this is that bae has two options

1) tell the discordniggers to fuck off and that she doesnt consider them her fans if they still stick to their guns and dont instantly fall onto the floor for naked dogeza and cancel all their tickets instead of just trying to resell

2) have a ruined idol reputation that will seriously harm her idol career since she's silently condoning their behavior and make her fans notorious as retards to be avoided

>>101464373
>You're a scalper getting buttfucked aren't you anon?
You're a fucking retard.

>>101464445
No, they think "do better" is impossible because other discords won't do it so why should they? To quote one of them who literally said "I'm not Jesus".

>>101464491
>Silently condoning their behavior'
What? she literally said that she does not condone this behavior
Where the fuck are you people coming from? it's only a matter of time before it gets clipped

>>101464491
>>101463819

>>101464514
she has not said anything concrete and was super fucking vague about everything

>>101464489
Nigger you're the one defending your discord buttbuddies by excusing it because """"everyone does it"""" on the basis of trust me bro

>>101464514
To be fair she was way too nice about it. I don't think she really understands how big of a faux pas what they did is.

>>101464531
ESLtard

>>101464531
She was worried about saying something wrong since she doesn't have all the information. She's always worried she's going to say something wrong.

>>101464531
Not him but that's clearly just her wanting to be nice about it. Although sadly I agree, in this situation she has to be more clear, but she absolutely wasn't condoning it.

>>101464442
I wasn't trying to be nice, I was being generous, brrat

>>101464560
She already mentioned that she does not have complete information about the entire thing. She scrolled a bit on twitter and then said she does not condone it

>>101464576
Glass marbles...

>>101464510
>>101464429
>Organize to ensure better outcome.
>Be mad because your lone wolf world view dissipates.

So let's break it down.
>People that want to go to the concert organise to ensure more of their fellow fans get tickets
>Anons get angry because they are retarded Ayn Rand retards that think you should never rely or help others

>>101464595
I repeat you are a lost cause.

>>101464595
That's not what happened anon. What happened is a group of brats organized to ensure more of ONLY THEIR GROUP got tickets. This wasn't for the Hololive community as a whole, this was to "turn the place red". Do you know how awkward and upsetting it would be for Bae if the entire place was filled with only or a majority of just Bae fans? Imagine how all the other girls would feel. Think for once faggot.

50 Cent once bought out the front 200 seats to a Ja Rule concert so that they'd all be empty. And that's a dude he fucking hates. These Discord niggers got almost 500 tickets and then claimed they weren't trying to freeze out other fans when they absolutely were until they got caught.

>>101464593
You don't... like them? I guess you won't have to worry any longer... Give me your eyes!

Salted, I know you're here - it's stupid, selfish, lowlife cocksuckers like you that ruin experiences for everyone else and make fun hobbies and events into luxury brands by pricing everyone else out, the attitude your little Discord goons have towards the fanbases for EN girls who left Holo's wretched, heartless, and cruel, and the attitude you have towards JP fans is Logan Paul-tier and a direct reason why the Japanese hate Westerners more and more these days and want them to never enter the country. If Bae has any more emotional breakdowns and can't stream one day or many days, I'm directly blaming you, anx you aren't a true brat if you hurt our silly rat girl like that.

Hope you get mugged in NYC. Specifically by one of those assholes in the Sesame Street costumes that shake you down for a picture and get fiesty with the Muppet-hands if you don't whip out the wallet.

>>101464739
They make me wanna pluck them out and roll them around in my hand

>>101464753
Rosetta...

>>101464595
Let's break it down

>Unless you know a guy and are part of the clique
>You might not get any tickets

You fucking faggot. There's literally no fairness here. The brats in this thread are not the brats in those discord, are they? What's to say these fuckers are using bots? Who's to say that they'll randomly distribute the tickets fairly?

You can't answer that, can you? Its just about the fact that it cheated out scalpers but here's the thing, you fucking sad sack of shit, its only a bit better than that option because the whole point of a multi talent concert is that ALL FANBASES GET A SHOT AT THE TICKETS.

If Bae does not approve of it, its not good. Period.

>>101461552
Who decided this guy to be the P.R. again, cause he was a horrible choice, as chuuni as the bae discord is, this is the most delicate situation that has ever happened, and obviously he was the worst representative.

>>101464791
scalpers are better than a single fanbase hoarding tickets
with scalpers it's fair in the sense that anyone from any fanbase can buy them
with these discord shitters buying them they will all go to their own friends

>>101464803
In every fanbase, there are always attentionwhores who try to be community leaders or some gay fucking shit like that. Of course it's always done to be seen as a more prominent or special fan, but always ALWAYS fucking sold under the guise of trying to help other fans/your oshi.

>>101464791
>All fanbases
>In truth most goes to scalpers
>Get angry because now more people get to go to to concert without having to go through scalper middlemen
Lol, lmao, kek. Learn to unionize, learn what true capitalism is, stop feeding parasites.

>>101461552
I haven't looked at any of this shit before really, that's fucked up.
It's people like him that give HoloEN fans a bad name.

>>101464770
This just reminds me of that one CHaD episode when Mori had to explain balls to them

>>101463135
ew this is disgusting, Suisei would be a full venue if this is true, all those Hoshiyomis could easily organize a hoarding event of tickets and none of you guys could do anything about it.

>>101464824
Unironically yes, I'd rather have scalpers than these self-righteous niggers

>>101464882
jp SEAtards are all just fucking stupid. That post refers to EN cords only

>>101461552
>this is war
>red spot in front of the stage
>turn this section red
>for our idol rat
How self deluded do you have to be to type shit like this and think Bae would appreciate it?
Like even if you don't know jackshit about idol culture and how you'd get lynched if you tried to organize something like that for proper idols, if you watched even a single Bae stream you should be perfectly aware she'd fucking HATE that idea

The twitter/discord fandom has really turned in to fucking kpop stan woman the past 2 years

>>101464936
Yeah

>>101464931
its a kpop thing

>>101464936
>turned into
Discord and twitter were cancer from the start.

>>101464931
I'm gonna be honest with you, that post is autism. I don't think there were ill intentions there, I think he just got way too caught up in the fantasy of different factions fighting it out for seats that he forgot that ACTUAL PEOPLE are involved and not some video game. Basically, he was projecting himself into a fantasy setting when in reality he was doing a bad thing.

>>101464968
I don't know anything about K-Pop, is that how things are there?

>>101464988
Don't put autists in leadership positions. You get what you ask for.

I don't care what cunts on twitter/discord are doing, got nothing to do with me or Bae

>>101465130
Sadly it does, the actions of a few careless faggots reflects badly on her.

Forget reflecting badly on her, this is putting even more stress on her

>>101465130
it does have something to do with bae when people don't want her at their events because her fans have a bad reputation

>>101465130
Bae is working hard as fuck on her idol/singer/dancer career, this has everything to do with that.

>>101465173
I can't believe the deluded nigger actually said Bae would be proud of them and what they did. Why would she be proud of them for hoarding tickets?

>>101464824
Yeah I'd rather have scalpers than these self righteous bitches who think they can hoard tickets for their specific fanbase

>>101465187
>Her fans
>Every single one of them
>People don't want her at their events
Stop being a dramatic women. You are writing fanfiction now. I haven't seen a single holofan on twitter blame Bae for this, only the retarded mods

>>101465319
This kind of thing reflects negatively on everyone involved.
And fans aren't the ones you should be worried about here, it's other artists and producers.

>>101465357
You are massively overblowing the lifespan of discord drama, especially now that the mods have caved in and are giving away the tickets

Well, Bae just posted a long membership post about the issue so...

>>101465375
NTA but they aren't giving them away, they are selling them at cost, but only to...wait for it...other Discords.

>>101465375
This isn't just Discord drama. It already made Yahoo News anon.

Tbh, kinda excited to see how this group will be received by other fans at the concert now that everyone basically knows what to look out for. Would be funny as fuck if they get booed by people

>>101465375
They aren't giving them away, they are selling them, and you are vastly underestimating how big a deal this is.
Especially in the JP sphere where the very act of reselling is forbidden by law and group buys are condemned as one of the worst and most disruptive things you can do as a fanbase.
If you look at the various JP BBS there's an absolute shitload of threads about this drama already.

>>101465401
What in the seven hells is Yahoo news?

>>101465520
In Japan yahoo is more than a search engine. They also have an auction platform.

This honestly doesn't feel hashed out to me since you still have to be in discord to get a ticket. I'd hate for that to become the law of the land going forward. But I guess there's no point dragging this out either. Just gotta hope for the best and that lessons were actually learned

>>101465534
Still not strong enough, then again those Discord faggots are pretty dense so however she said it they'd probably ignore it. I wish she had said "I am against group buys that buy more tickets than people who are going".

>>101465579
There is nothing she can say that will make the discord faggots realize they fucked up. They're a lost cause.

>>101465534
From what I've read on twitter, the people complaining are okay as long as the conditions of other fans being able to purchase is met

>>101465595
It would be more for dense people who think this is the way to do things going forward.

Imagine upsetting your oshi. I hate Discord so much.

>>101465534
That's pretty vague and more "it's already water under the bridge the situation is resolved after all ;)" bullshit. I understand she doesn't want to upset some of her bigger gachikoi, but I feel like she should have taken a harder stance on it.

>>101465637
I think they will get the memo after this post

>>101465534
>I'm glad that it was hashed out
It was..? I don't see anything being resolved at all

>>101465401
Link the article

>>101465596
The average twitter user is an ignorant simpleton. Once they go on discord and realize there's a hierarchy and their seats are determined by some cabal of neckbeards it'll fall apart fast.

>>101465652
Not him but if they had self awareness, they wouldn't be a problem in the first place.

>>101464209
>By doing this shit, they piss off every other - ok troon

Exactly. I wanna see the retards fight among themselves. Already generally shitty people anyways, nice to see the arms race happen between who can be shitter. The Brats are winning because they at least pretend to be noble about it. You all trashed the hobby long ago, this is just who's survived still duking it out. And generic scalpers get whacked too. Circus for the viewing.

Rest of us just join and wait for streams, because none of these people are worth their merch and concerts anyway.

>>101465665
>Open lottery for other fans
I think it has been resolved
>But discord
Doesn't matter. The main complaint was that they were hoarding to only their cord and not to other fans

>>101465665
The two main people in the screenshots posted chatgpt apologies so it's all good :D

>>101465637
I'm putting some hope in that she's dealing with that behind curtains. Because everyone already know that membership posts ALWAYS get leaked. So, she acts professional there while slapping some shit on DMs.

>>101465922
Are you saying she's DMing Baecord mods to privately scold them?

>>101465971
Hopefully she is.

>>101465979
Retard

>>101465922
>>101465971
That would have the opposite effect...

>>101466001
Cute, thanks for the (you)

I hope that discord closes down. There's two baecords anyway.

>>101465979
Are you retarded? That would be rewarding them. Christ, you people are actually autistic and socially unaware.

I would buy a lot more than 450 tickets for Bae to privately message me on Discord to call me names and tell me how disappointing I am

>>101466010
I dunno, I just want things to get sorted out. I hope that membership post will be enough. But I feel it won't.

>>101466036
Yeah, I fucked up my wording there (and I'm also retarded and autistic), by that I meant mods, manager or any staff member. Not herself since that, as you said, would be rewarding.

Can we please please please just kill everyone who uses a fan Discord. Yes I'm aware we'd lose Towa (and A-chan) but it'd be for the greater good.

If any of you got a ticket via wierd fan discord faggotry at least do me a favour and yell very loudly when my Ina is being cute on stage.
Honestly better to have actual fans get tickets than stalkers, although its a heavy to get 400 for one singular fan discord. Its a bit weird how aggressive some people seemed to be towards other fanbases, kinda cringe desu.

>>101466304
>stalkers
Obviously meant scalpers but close enough desu

>>101466195
But what if Bae is secretly in the Towacord?

You guys are real fags. Imagine making your oshi come out and shame you in a big member's post like this.

>>101466679
Fuck yourself catalognigger, Discord trannies are not fans.

>>101466725
>fuck yourself
Is a bit light
Subhumans like that deserve to slit their wrists

Salted, if I see you at AFO I'm going to kick you in the nuts you fucking faggot.

>>101465922
I imagine Cover may put out a statement as part of their fan conduct guidlines thingy. That way the rest of the talents can point to it to head off any fuckery from their fans before it becomes the meta without directly calling out the brats

Don't bother making a new thread, it will just get raided thanks to SEAniggers. Both the ones stirring drama and the one who caused this situation in the first place.