Bae deserves a better fanbase
>>101479489 (OP)Post the discord screenshots.
>>101479489 (OP)Then she shouldn't have joined holo
>>101479608I don't think they learned
>>101479489 (OP)Court Homobeggars. Get Homobeggar problems.
>>101479489 (OP)>>101479608>>101479753Aren’t you phasecucks tired of spamming this nothingburger?
Fuck fancords, their entire behavior is basically determined by whichever self-appointed "leader" is in charge so if he's a dipshit everyone will follow suit.
Strictly speaking it's not really fair to blame the fanbase for these cliques, however I think "look at how shitty X fanbase is" backlash really is the only way to pressure people into behaving properly. So yes I'm actually glad her fanbase is getting fucked for this even if 99% aren't even in this shitcord.
>>101479489 (OP)She should have gone much harder.
>>101479823much like holofags spammed the pippa nothingburger
>>101479489 (OP)no actual condemnation in there. worst I can see is it being "upsetting" and given she doesn't specify the "situation" they're gonna bend it to make sense for them.
she probably won't get any antis from this, but they will absolutely take this as encouragement
>>101479894It made national news.
>>101479894lmao that was everybody friend, reminder no one likes the 0.6%. you get to be an aggrieved victim forever now!
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Reminder this SEAnigger and the rest of his Discord are doing full on damage control.
>>101479823>nothingburgerIs that why Bae had to talk about it on stream and make a membership a few hours after the stream?
wtf happened? can i get qrd?
>>101479489 (OP)Notice how the homocollaber whores always have the worst fanbase.
Bae you know you have to ban him, if you leave him be he's just going to get worse, his ego is massive.
>>101480173Bae fancord decided to do a mass buyout of All for One tickets to beat scalpers.
Basically doig the exact same thing scalpers do
>>101479489 (OP)Finally some good fucking drama
>>101479489 (OP)discord is VERY VERY BAD
>>101479753nothing but downplaying and excuses from this faggot
>>101480288thats kinda funny ngl
>>101480257>Still mindbroken cause she acknowledged a penis haver's existence
>>101479489 (OP)>Good intentions can be wrongly executedplease point me where the good intentions were.
She deserves that fanbase
>>101480173A fan discord for Bae bought about 400 tickets to the concert for the purpose of reselling (at cost) to other Brats. They had a priority list of who to resell to and other talent fanbases were at the bottom. The organizers also made some iffy comments about graduated talents since now they won’t have to “compete” with their fanbases anymore.
>>101480457>please point me where the good intentions were.>5) other hololive fansthere. if it were just that point the brats would have been hailed as heroes
>>101480457You lack reading comprehension because that quite literally proves her point
>Good intention: Trying to fight scalpers>Wrong execution: Hoarding it into an exclusivity club
>>101479797I didn't know homobeggars were rich oil barons who had the monopoly on holotickets. It seems like Unicorns lost
>>101480490>make sure you and yours get tickets>offer leftovers to outsiders at cost instead of scalpingLiterally nothing wrong with this
>>101480548>>101480614except they put it at the very bottom in the hopes of getting a giant brat STD-filled orgy in Manhattan. How is that good, they also said they were glad other holomems graduated so they could get more tickets. Shut the fuck up forever and die
>>101479489 (OP)the funny thing is that bae's discord didn't even do anything that the other fan discords aren't doing
i could hop into the kfpcord, the ruffcord, the oompfcord, or any other discord and find similar stuff but that would require using discord
>>101480675You should die instead dumb shit bricks. I'm not defending the cord you illiterate son of a bitch
Also the graduation thing was supposed to be an edgy joke, not a genuine sentiment from what I've seen on twitter
>>101480675hence the wrong execution, retard.
>>101479996spoiler that shit jesus
>>101479996>>101480457>fans of a vtuber buy all tickets to a concert to prevent scalpers from getting them>they then resell those tickets (at no profit) to other fans of the same vtuberI really, really don't see what's wrong with this. I thought friends getting together to buy concerts for a show was a common practice? And why did this only blow up after BVTM made a stink about it?
>>101480700>everybody's doing it but I refuse to use the thing that could provide evidence Right.
>>101480490how does that reselling at cost thing work? I assume they're not taking credit cards because otherwise it would be at a loss, so only cash and you have to take their word for it instead of just buying it yourself? or are they willing to eat the payment processing and ticketmaster fees to sell at cost on the website itself to actually transfer the ticket?
I'd rather buy from the source instead of some random discord I've never heard of before this, thank you vey much.
>>101479489 (OP)Yes. But what's the point of the 4th thread about it? Nothing new has happened, everyone understands discord faggots are faggots. It'll just end up in them trying to damage control with same retarded arguments until the bump limit, like all the previous ones.
>>101479489 (OP)Fanbase reflects the streamer.
>>101480803I blame advent and justice newfags
>>101480700>bae's discord didn't even do anything that the other fan discords aren't doingYes they did. No other fan discord is buying hundreds of tickets. The most was 70.
>>101480803Problem is that it's not a concert for that vtuber. Imagine nips did this for fes, how do you think are the chances of someone who oshis Roboco of getting one compared to Hoshiyomis or Ichimi? Because if everyone is on the same line/lottery, their chances are equal.
>>101480672>>101480803>you and yours get tickets>friends>"discord faggots"Holy shit log off the internet you fucking losers. This isnt buying 2 tickets for your wife and child. They bought hundreds in some cringe attention whoring power grab.
>>101480548>If other fanbases get fucked good, so we can get even more ticketsParaphrasing but the "get fucked" was part of the message one of them sent, probably saltedbread
>>101480751>graduation thing was supposed to be an edgy jokeNTA but the reply by the admin to that "we already beat them last year anyway lol" was distasteful and made things worse.
>>101480803Browncord angle of the day.
HoloEN sold out we need drama because they are not dying.
>>101480902The admin is a shitcunt but the guy who made that joke was just making an edgy joke in bad taste
>>101480803>Running damage control in /vt/ Kek, go back.
>>101480872>Problem is that it's not a concert for that vtuber.Are there only 450 seats total for the entire concert? I seriously doubt it. Judging by the first screenshot too, their intention was filling the area designated for brats with, well... brats. So they bought as many tickets for the brat area as they could.
I still don't see the issue.
>>101480803The problem is they bought a shit ton of tickets and prioritizing selling to the discord brrats and then their friends and other fans at the very end. All of this while shitting on other fanbases makes them look bad.
>>101480969450 tickets beat the amount of scalped being sold 4:1. If scalping is a big enough issue that warrants its own on stream and twitter statements by talents and fanbase whining, so does this.
Just execute all 5 of Bae's fans and problem solved.
>>101479489 (OP)Lol get fucked for being a whore.
>>101480751people like would be better off at the bottom of a trashcan, making excuses for the inexcusable.
>>101481009>5 Bae fans are equivalent to the rest of the holo fanbase combined in powerAmazing
>>101480875>>101480955>anyone who isn't on my side is the opposing side running damage controlAh so it's just the BVTMcord running their own damage control for blowing up a nothingburger.
Brats did nothing wrong, and even if they did they still fucked over scalpers so they did a good deed in the end.
>>101480810it is basically just trust me and hand me your money, bro
>>101479489 (OP)...did this really need a 5th thread?
>>101481104I don't see any other thread at the moment.
>>101481054But you are running damage control. Noone seriously thinks brats did nothing wrong, including Bae. You trying to pin it on some dramafag won't help, sorry.
>It was just a joke bro trust me
He deserve every bit of shit thrown at him
>>101481054>Brats did nothing wrongthey hoarded hundreds of tickets to share them between each other at a concert where every HoloEN members will participate. If it was a Bae sololive fine but this is unacceptable. You'd be more lucky dealing with a scalper if she's not your oshi
>>101481182>BVTM>some dramafaglel
>>101479846This is why I don't form or belong to social groups. I will not play 2nd to anyone or follow them or have any followers. I saw this first more than a decade ago on a Metal Gear forum with some account named Risky Plissken and all these beta male orbiters would dick ride him. It was repulsive to me. I'm not into being prideful or having a big ego either. But scampish little followers? That's just fucking nasty. "We're just being bros!" No, dude, frat bros are one thing, you're full-on being gay as fuck. I understand simps, I will never understand male-to-male clingers who aren't even gay. Like eww, pick better fucking role models then some goddamn rando gamer on an internet forum. Superman, Batman, something. Reminds me of DSP fans. What a slovenly slovenly boy you are, DSP.
>>101481266This poster is from manilla
>>101479489 (OP)Maybe if she'd STRIP DANCE, she'd get a better fanbase!
>>101480803Are you a libtard?, how can you be so naive and unaware of the consequences of them doing this shit?, think anon, think.
>when you gaze long into the scalpers, the scalpers gaze into you
Is there even going to be hundreds of brats showing up?
>>101481308your oshi is a chink
>>101481354Dance for me monkey
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I’m just going to say this
if it weren’t for this one decision, I’d have no problem with the whole “operation” thing. I don’t care which fanbase does it. It’s simply disgusting behavior.
That said, I’m completely fine with, and even support, the idea of mass-buying tickets IF, and only IF, they’re resold at the same price, with no priority or biased selection.
To be honest, there was no right execution. Even if redistribution was done for all fans by lottery, it would still require what, people to join that server? The logistics of that is a nightmare, and it still resulted in real fans who likely would have received a ticket being locked out off it.
>>101481345Typically yes. After this shit idk
>>101481338>random /pol/ out of nowherepost skin
>>101481194It'd be funny if that whole section was refunded and resold, but cover isn't that based.
>>101481385Yeah, first come first served become "if you're in the know you get it."
Anyone who watches streams or even clips can know about the general sales, but if you're not on social media and discord you're NOT getting this. It necessarily separates fans by tiers. The only thing that should be done to beat scalpers is using a platform that doesn't enable them.
Nips were right all along with their retarded lotteries.
the faggot involved cried while reading bae's response
it would be funny if Bae got sick and couldn't participate
>>101481433>Nips were right all along with their retarded lotteriesAnd they have scalpers anyway, because cover doesn't care enough to ID check
>>101481440Hopefully he learned his lesson
this is like using nukes. You can't go back. Every fancord will now weaponize their members against other fancords.
>>101480969You don't see the issue of a small group of people buying up that many tickets then getting to gatekeep who gets to buy those tickets? If Brats can do this and get away with it now, you don't think other fan discords are going to copy the idea for future concerts?
>>101481382They didn't even buy a determined amount for themselves anon, they bought all they could afford and that's where everything goes to shit, if they had bought let's say 100 tickets for their little discord grooming server because 100 of them will assist sure, all good, it they bought all they could to shit on everyone else and make money out of it, unironically baby's first scam tactic.
Remember, these niggas love in thirdworld shithole and they can live in luxury for a whole year with 50 bucks.
>>101481333real talk bae being a "dancer" is probably part of why her audience is so fucking insufferable, something about making dance a big part of your personality attracts some really fucking annoying people
>>101481473Kek, he 100% teared up at the first half. No self-awareness to be found there.
>>101481473hopefully he killed himself
>>101481473>autists on the internet>learning their lesson
>>101481427Go be a homo somewhere else
>>101481483This shit grew like cancer, it is so big now that it directly affecting the talents. Fan discords should be purged.
I just to remind everyone that the best way to beat scalpers is simply not to buy from them.
Imaging this retard sitting with 400+ tickets after the concert end.
>>101479753I don’t think he understands what exactly was wrong with what the baecord did other than what he thought of as banter at the time with the war room shit. Would be an interesting challenge to ask him to summarize what baecord did wrong. I don’t think he’d be able to.
>Holo concert sells out
>Browns seethe
kek
>>101479876>>101479944A real condemnation would've been for her to just straight up shut down her channel membership entirely, but I doubt Cover would allow her to pull the plug just like that.
>>101481587What kind of damage control is this
>>101481054Why aren't you responding to this
>>101480994and calling everyone you disagree with bvtm?
>>101481587bae is brown and she disavows so yes you're right
>>101481599I don't think she should do that over 450 tickets. Not that you area holofan anyways
>>101481517Yeah, and worst of all, it overloads the server with ridiculously long queues, preventing others from actually buying their tickets. You right, mass-buying does shit to actual fans.
>>101481587>Holo wins>chimps seetheAnd everything is right in the world
>>101481599Yeah that's not gonna happen, plus wouldn't fix the issue either would it?, in fact, how do you even "fix" this shit?, implement a lottery system like Japan?, a purchase limit backed with ID?, I've no idea really, plus does it even matter for Cover?, they are still making money so at the end of the day, what does it matter to them?
>>101481682How is this a win for Holo in any way?
>>101481731>12k concert sold out in minutes>this is very bad actually
Why not just let all Brats go to the concert?
Then maybe Cover would realize that just one girl's fanbase is enough to sell out.
>>101481731Have you considered that Niji
>>101481473>>101481440Reading comprehension, he's not saying that he is sad, he is saying that he felt moved by Bae's post, in summary he already failed to learn his lesson.
>>101481781Good for those 500 ticket holders
>>101481538This would've been Passion in idolm@ster, so it makes sense that fancord brats are like that.
>>101481587>As long as there are no tickets selling everything good, right?! >Because some fucking nigger in a discord server bought for someone who couldn't wait their queue.Fuck off.
>>101481813Well if he doesn't learn his lessons then he's going to get impeached because brats don't want him to create more trouble for Bae
>>101479489 (OP)I am not reading all that
>>101481835Good, hopefully he gets jumped by teammates, hoomans, saplings, sanallites, chumbuds and brats
>fanbase is represented by rats
>they act like Jews
the signs were there
>>101481800mori already sold out a 4k venue with no anime con or guests to boost sales on a wednesday night. cover knows they're the shit, its the venues that are hesitant on hosting a 2d anime girl on a screen
>>101479489 (OP)Bvtm(you) deserve to be hanged and quartered
>>101479489 (OP)she really doesn't because she didn't actually call them out on what they did
>>101481800Mori sold out alone a 4k venue.
Any Holo could fill a 3k venue just fine when indies and small corpos struggle with less than the half of that. The problem is that indies and small corpos suck so fucking much to the point where venues have no confidence and the only way to change that is for Holo to sell out for years just to open the road for the other leeches.
total brat death
kill brats
behead brats
roundhouse kick a brat into the concrete
slam dunk a brat into the trashcan
crucify filthy brats
defecate in a brats food
>>101481194I hate idolshit and everyone who likes it so much.
>>101481813>>101481835The only way for him to learn his lesson is to not buy from him. Let him wastes all his money holding those tickets
>>101481781Concert was going to sell out regardless? you are mixing things up on purpose to have a way to dismiss your fagcord's blunder that made it so your oshi had to address it on stream and on a member's post
>>101481931>Any Holo could fill a 3k venueHalf of HoloEN couldn't, they're not good singers. Mori is a singer with a UMC deal.
>>101481333>has a seizure on the floor???
>>101481900the discussion has been about scalping the entire time
>>101481721>implement a lottery system like Japan?Yeah? Nintendo implemented it on a global scale with the Switch 2 and so far it was effective in preventing scalpers from mass buying the console.
>does it even matter for Cover?, they are still making money so at the end of the day, what does it matter to them?Given Yagoo wants the best for fans he'd probably feel dishonest about it, but his actions barely hold any weight in the Public era of Holo so there's not much he can do about it but to profit.
>>101481915every single time someone says this, it's a phasecuckie
>>101482009Your comparing a product to tickets to an event. I just want to point that out so you can feel appropriately stupid.
>>101481931Mint and Doki flop last year is probably the reason why venues are so stingy.
>>101482036swing and a miss
i hate phase niggers and their stupid whore Pippa and their faggot proctor cock sucking kiwifarms loving landwhale kirsche cunt sniffing fanbase more than you do
trust me
>>101481976>they're not good singersWhat does that have do to with anything? Miko and Pekora sold out huge venues.
>>101482062>flopo and flopi
>>101482009Cover doesn't bother to stop scalping even in JP
>>101482036She didn't.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-UI8vlVqzA
She has full context of everything said and done at this point. If you consider any of this a call out you are soft. Kronii got more upset at "holy boobers" then bae did.
>>101482062It's not only that.
>Phase concertFlop
>IM concert this yearFlop
>Mint and DokiFlop
It's a series of flops and I can't blame venues to read vtuber and go
>oh hell no
>>101479489 (OP)Oh look who instigated all that shit, usual suspects(phasefags)
>>101481682>they did nothing wrong>making it so that fans have a harder time getting tickets is bad>ermm...browns need to complain about holo wins thentalk about a new angle
>>101482197>brown faggot troon reposted something that he saw on 4chan so it means he was the one who pointed it outi get you have a hate boner for phaseniggers but at least direct your hate properly and not randomly like a stupid nigger
>>101479489 (OP)Can someone explain to me how they manged to hoard so many tickets?
>IM
So that's who's running damage control. Why am I not surprised
>>101482197>if you criticize or insult a holomem you're a phasefagFair. all brats are phasefags btw.
>>101482269By using bots. Same as always.
>>101482197This makes them mad stop posting it please.
>>101482197Retarded bratcord niggers instigated all thit shit. It was both here and on leddit before this fag picked it up.
>>101482095>Miko and PekoraAre you really comparing them to EN? Ain't no way Kronii, Advent (sans Fuwamoco) and Justice could sell out a 3k venue.
>>101482160That's what I was saying.
Oh well I guess they just need to keep selling out to counter these shitters failures.
>>101482335I'm saying good singing has nothing to do with it. Kronii or Biboo probably can btw.
>>101479823>>101482279>>101482197Brats are bad for pulling this shit
Phasefags are bad for trying to shoot up a peaceful protest.
Okay, murdering random people is definitely worse, but that doesn't let the Brats off the hook either.
>>101482095Miko's and Pekora's fans are all located in the same country, with the venue being a cheap 20min train ride away. Versus EN talents whose fans are spread across the whole world and will likely have to pay thousands for flights, hotel, etc. and take multiple days off work to attend.
>>101482160I'm pretty confident that's now how venues work. Where was the opportunity cost for those concerts? What else were the venues going to put on instead? At the end of the day if they have nothing they still have to pay for utilities, staff and taxes on the land the building stands on.
>>101482386>Kronii or Biboo probably can btwNo fucking way.
>>101482386>probablyAny HoloEN girl could. If a single discord is able to buy 450 tickets.
>>101482159Kronii and Bae are not the same people. Regardless, she did get upset and said she did not approve. You are phasecuck and you know it
>>101482386Kronii could, not sure if can
>>101482410The only time I ever watched pippa was when she came on and said nothing during Jim's "I'm dying, goodbye" stream. And I have never watched any other phase member. I have watched a pretty sizeable amount of hololive though. You'll actually find most of the time (with the exception of gacha) it's fans that get pissed off first.
>>101482086>>101482256I like that he doesnt reply to these because his narrative falls apart
>>101482274I'm confused this clearly isn't /vt/ since none of those posts show in the archive
>>101482086>Oh I'm just a retarded motherfuckerGotcha
>>101482473I watched the video. if that's an admonishment then you guys are soft just as I said. No wonder you're sensitive about other holomems phasebrat.
>>101482494Look at the date on the posts. Remember what happened on 4chan on that date.
>>101482491What narrative? You can't prove or disprove that this guy is a phasefaggot. You can check that only on twitter like this
>>101482197
>>101482477Kronii had a fuckton of overseas fans even at the fes, compared to other fanbases. You're mixing unikek delusions with reality.
>>101482443Ultimately these threads just showcase how dedicated and rich holofans are. I don't know if that's what they want though.
I like how he replied with a completely retarded post dismissing what was said instantly after being called out
>>101482530She had a massive lead in subs and somehow got beat to 1m by Mumei even when she had the Wada buff
>>101482516Braindead tranny. If her stating that their actions are making her sad isn't admonishment then nothing will to you
>>101482443450 is nowhere close as 3k retardbro
>>101482062I remember seeing threads calling the Mint and Doki concert a huge success and the beginning of the indie era. It actually flopped?
>>101479846I mean nobody is blaming the Bae general thread on here since very likely they aren't in the discord, otherwise why would they come here? But its hard for me to frankly not want to treat them with animosity because I wanted to go to see MY oshi and knowing that I'm being punished for not having it be Bae is something.
>>101482569>a single discordRead nigga. A single discord can purchase that much.
>>101482569Do you know that a discord is a portion of a total fanbase?
>>101482565She cries in every stream. It probably got your cock hard. Phasebrat.
>>101482605It didn't sell out so yeah a flop.
>>101482629Deflecting with a made up amalgamation won't make you any less of a disingenuous son of a whore
>>101482629>it doesn't count>it doesn't count>it doesn't countNTA but I hope you get drafted to war and die horribly kek
>>101482642What deflection? She does cry a lot. How is that an admonishment. And we established criticizing holomems makes you a phasefag. Which brats do on discord so all brats are phasefags.
>>101482616>>101482622That's Bae's discord, that has 5000 people in it. The entirety of her fanbase. Do you retards know what you're talking about?
>>101482690>How is admonishing admonishment? Dumb tranny
>get caught red-handed being scummy
>it's Phase's fault because their fans noticed
>>101482197pretty much, the "outrage" here feels so exaggerated like I don't even think these people are real fans
>>101482697>The entirety of her fanbase>every discord member is a brratkek
>>101482706So everytime she cries you're being admonished. That seems like it has diminishing returns.
>>101482697>1 million subs vs 5000 discord membersThanks for the laugh
>>101482735>1 million subsBro she doesn't have 5k ccv regularly. You think she has one million fans? kek
>>101482733>What is contextOnce again, dumb retarded tranny you are.
>>101481194Reminds me of that group that tried to make every section have different penlights, with Ame being in the back and smallest section.
>>101482757Nimi has 10k CCV but can't sell out a 1k venue
Mori has 4k CCV but can sell out a 4k venue
>>101482764Everytime she cries it's directly or indirectly related to her having a fanbase.
>>101482711>Start shitting on phasecucks>They start running defense force and out themselvesEvery. Single. Time.
>>101482781Mori is an actual singer with a UMC deal and a sidegig. Nimi/Fauna was the shittiest singer in Hololive. Who are you fooling?
>>101482812>moving goalpostsRoru
>>101482781bots dont show up in person
>>101482781Nimi sold out 1.4k in the first day, retard.
>>101482720Of course not, twitter fags don't even watch streams or even know that bvtm is a holoanti that was doxxing holomembers on his previous 10 accounts
>>101482812>CCV doesn't correlate to selling out venues>still uses CCVYou tell me buddy
>>101482826What goalpost? Passfag retard. Read the reply chain.
>>101482831>sold out 1.4k first day 2 months ago>still tickets on sale today
>>101482847>Oh no I got caughtKek
All i know is that phasecucks are trying to pin this on Bae somehow
>>101482847Your point for Bae not selling out is that Bae doesn't have 5k avg CCV.
When confronted with the fact Nimi can't sell a smaller venue with more CCV you went
>it doesn't matter
>>101482846I didn't bring up subs and ccv.
>>101482565Look at the response from saltedbread,
>Thank you for your kind wordsHe is focusing on how sweet and magnanimous his oshi is
>I am sorry you had to deal with the trouble we caused >WEEven when he is the main culprit of the bad image the bratcord now has he is trying to spread the blame as much as he can
>Even if those were made in jestA case of the schrodinger's asshole, you meant or didn't mean something depending on the reaction you get
>Second half>Pure rambling about how he has been part of the community for a long time and how awesome of a community brats are (one could say he even thinks they are better than other fanbases and that their oshi is better than other's oshis) >I'm definetly taking this as a big lessonYet he didn't take full responsability at all in any of his comments. Yes, Bae's response was too soft, otherwise the message wouldn't have failed to land this hard.
>>101482911You did stupid retard.
>>101482757
>>101482898>Your point for Bae not selling outI never said that. Brrats are being very retarded itt and deflecting every post. Bae is probably one of the few ENs who could sell out a 3k venue. But I don't think the others that I've listed could. I have no idea why you keep bringing up Nimi, she's a shit singer. Stop behaving like bvtm retards.
>>101482974That's not me, and the person he replied to(you?) brought it up first.
>Brats seething about Nimi on cooldown
Literally the worst fanbase, she deserves the worst.
>>101483030>That's not meWhy the fuck did you reply to my post directed to that guy then? Are you spastic?
>>101483068Then it is you who brought up subs first, stupid nigger. I replied to it because comparing Mori and Nimi in the context of singing is retarded.
>>101483057More like braps.
big kusa @ brats coming into every one of these threads to justify it and try to do damage control. just take the L and don't make any more commotion and it'll be forgotten in 2 weeks.
>>101482970That's not on Bae, that's on saltedbread for being a completely tone deaf retard
Bae is not headstrong like Kronii. She's a softie, she could never bring herself to be super harsh on her fans so this is her way of saying no. If he doesn't get the memo, that's on him. Claiming this is Bae's fault is very tone deaf
and you seem to imply that the message did not get through to him is outright wrong. Even if he's full of himself, he does know that he fucked up which is why he put up the tickets for open lottery after being stripped naked and hanged. He would double down if he didn't know he fucked up
Regardless I hope he fucks off from the fandom or gets replaced. Also you should go with him and suck his dick
>>101483103I compared Nimi and Mori exactly to show how CCV doesn't matter in the slightest. You replied just because you are a spastic.
>>101483143Big kusa @ BVTMcucks like you trying to make it seem like how the discordfaggotry is Bae's fault
>>101482828Then how come people are going to EN concert?
>>101483217No-one said that but continue to blame strawmen and scapegoats for your own shittiness.
>>101483176That is on Bae, she failed on not sugar coating her words, specially on her member's post. So now the culprits can pretend she didn't mean it and focus on how much she loves her community, we are the best, we are great. As some other anon pointed out, even Kronii's holy boobers rant was harsher
>>101483286Tell that to this retarded son of bitch
>>101482970
>>101483193No, you brought up subs because you're a deflecting seething retard that doesn't know what to argue.
brats confirmed shittier than cumpedos. think about that for a second. worse than pedos.
>>101483290Well guess what, Bae loves her brats and she will never outright shit on them. The brats know this and they won't allow saltedbread to pull off more faggotry to make things harder for her
Everyone wins
>>101479894>the pippa nothingburgerlmao fuck your neo nazi rabbit grifter
>>101483301You are just retarded, Bae couldn't cause the discord faggotry by addressing discord faggotry after the faggotry has already been done. What she failed to do was properly reprimanding her faggot fanbase for their discord faggotry, which means that they will keep being faggots, that's what is on her, her responsaibility was telling her fans to fuck off so that they will behave, she failed on this.
>>101482870>>101482802I'm not even a Phasefag, just tired of Holobronies shitting on ex-Holos and current Holos and then blaming someone else for it, which is exactly what has happened here.
>>101481054That bvtm faggot only latched on to this because people already had a problem. Seems your being influenced by the faggot making a post out of it and are now also ignoring Bae’s wishes to not “let him win” type of shit. Unironicaly turn off your internet dude
>>101483312>you brought up subsLet's review the discussion so far
>Bae's discord, that has 5000 people in it. The entirety of her fanbaseFalse because as you said CCV doesn't correlate to venues selling out right :)
My response
>>101482724Another anon
>1 million subs vs 5000 discord membersObviously she doesn't have 1 million fans but that's still less retarded than saying 5000 discord members are her entire fanbase
Not you (even though you are lying)
>Bro she doesn't have 5k ccv
>>101483331>more faggotryWhy did they allow him to pull it off this time? It was obvious to anyone with a brain Bae would not approve it.
>>101483331t. brat
stop this poor attempt at running damage control in this mongolian basket weaving forum
>>101483453Because he's the head moderator and he calls the shots. He's the big dog.
>>101479823deflect harder, salty
>>101483414This will be such a shitshow if the pippa collaber koyo actually joins hololive.
>>101483290Bae is incredibly non-confrontational. She doesn't like rocking the boat. The fact that she said ANYTHING at all is incredibly telling on how much this situation has impacted her and how much she doesn't like it.
If Saltedbread doesn't see that, then he doesn't deserve to be the 'leader' of Baecord. In fact, I'd argue he needs to leave the fandom entirely at that point because he'd no longer see Bae for who she is, but idolizes her for what he wants her to be. Sees her as nothing but an object to satisfy his own emotional gratification. And that's a toxic mentality we need to purge.
>>101483422>waaaaaaaaaahNo because there are countless brats in her membership comments who do not want this to happen again
>>101483526Phasecucks deserve to be shat on though? especially after trying to make this Bae's fault
Death to all phasecucks
>>101483544>idolizes her for what he wants her to be. Sees her as nothing but an object to satisfy his own emotional gratification.You new to hololive?
>>101483549If they were not involved to begin with it is easy to villainize what happened, the true indicator of her being shit at doing her job is the reaction from those involved, which is dismissive.
>waaaaaaaaaahKek, did I make you seethe?
>>101483642No, been here since before Myth. I've always held that opinion and belief. It's just something I'm putting to words now because it fits the situation.
>>101483687Lovely disingenous tranny seethe
>>101483744I'll take your concession
>101483687
This subuman is a trashtaste fag btw, /#/ doxxed him
>>101479489 (OP)>Bae deserves a better fanbaseDoes she, though? I've heard from some people who work with her that she's actually kind of an intolerant asshole. I'm sure those qualities don't come out in stream when she's playing the character, at least.
>>101483895Phasecuckies really just writing fanfics now
If they aren't profiting and the tickets are going to fans what's the issue? Maybe the other fancords should do the same.
>>101483444Dumb numbernigger. My point was that most of the dedicated brrats who will be going to concerts are in that discord, because it's the single largest place to talk about and organize concert stuff. Meaning 450 from a "single discord" is not as big as you claim it to be. I don't know why you brought up that discord when we were talking about 'any HoloEN selling out 3k venue'. Like I said, deflection after deflection.
>>101483895Well, in her own words she is high maintenance and her standards for an 'ideal man' is the likes of Majima and Steve Irwin. Basically impossible standards for 99.99% of the male population to meet, and those that can have the pick of the female population so would never look at her.
>>101483977Steve Irwin isn't that high standard look wise. You just need to be a good man with a bit of muscle (and be white)
>>101480803>pagnigger jumps through a million hoops and only tells half-truths to justify ticket scalping and biased resale pricingplease drink a gallon of chlorinated tap water and kill yourself
Ha, they haven't learned.
>>101483844Resorting to making shit up are we
>>101483955I can't buy the ticket from the official website. Instead, I have to join their shitty Discord channel and trust them with my money.
Are you retarded?
>>101484129You aren't slick trickytrouble
>>101484087Let's hope enough of them have. Bae has made her stance very clear that she's against this. She appreciates the support, but the impact it has on other fanbases can be problematic. So long as the organizers of these types of events get that, I think things'll improve.
>>101479489 (OP)Why the fuck would Holo care if honest fans or scalpers bought the tickets out side of virtue signaling and personal opinions money is money
>>101484167>Muh boogeyman and namefagging deflection Has this situation really shook brats hard enough to make you brats this desperate? random namefagging and shots in the dark is the best you can do? Or are you full on schizophrenic from browsing /#/ too much?
>>101482559Kronii fucked over her growth potential by collabing with homos a lot, took a while for her to catch back up to speed.
>>101484190At the very least, even the fags who haven't gotten the memo will have to suck it up and not do shit like this again because Bae said so
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>>101484242Dumb tranny. You are absolutely obsessed with Bae. You are camping this thread trying to make the shitcords antics her fault somehow. You deserve a fate worse than death. Your whore mother failed you. How does it feel going under Bae's comments and then later on 4 separate clips to spam the same regurgitated shit and then have people shit on you in the replies?
Get cancer and fucking die tranny
>don't talk about bae in a thread about bae
>>101484287Oh wow that dude is obsessed
>>101484287Why is he excluding the part where she talks about it later after learning what fully happened?
There's a far simpler rationale: you make money off music/dance, you want fair ticket sales.
Some artists care less because they cannot influence it; not even Swift can get rid of Ticketmaster. Some care more because the unfairness might affect their bottom line, because they're smaller ( ie not as big as Swift) they feel more of the effects of scalping.
>>101484287Let me guess. A phasecuck with zero comments on holochats
>>101484385Because he's a fucking schizo
>>101484408Worse. a Trash Taste tourist
>>101484385hmm...he might have a narrative he wants to push
“I wanna be a better idol.” Well gee Bae maybe stop whoring out with homos on stream then.
>>101482565>>101482706>>101482764>>101483744>>101484287>Double down on the namefaggingYou really are desperate
the brats cry in pain as they scalp you
>>101484408Bingo.
https://holochatstats.info/user_info
>>101484562Says the obsessed tranny
>brats actually not even understanding or caring about what Bae said and still trying to spin it as 's-she's actually on our side guys! Muh phasefag boogeyman!"skyrocketing into my top 5 worst fanbases category
>>101484572KEK
>>101484731>>brats actually not even understanding or caring about what Bae said and still trying to spin it as 's-she's actually on our side guys! Muh phasefag boogeyman!"Who the fuck are you quoting you disgusting son of a whore?
More like the brats are trying to defend Bae from the phase trannies who are blaming it on her. Does that sound more accurate troon?
>>101484611Anon your only argument is pretending I am trans or some random twitterfag, not a good look on the brat defense force when that is all they can say to defend their shitshow
>>101484731>Not even reading the threadYucky poop hands
>>101484087>Brats doubling down on their retardation even after their own oshi calls them out and turning on herHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
it's okay braps gal goomba just saved bae's reputation by dropping news that will dominate the attention
>>101484798I already presented my arguement as you being an obsessed disingenuous cunt earlier when you tried to blame Bae for the cord activities
>>101479489 (OP)>Please do not celebrate the graduation of my fellows, do not be such a dickFew times has a Hololive fan brought shame to their oshi's name like that one guy did.
>>101484854 (me)
I'm done with this tranny. I won't waste my time with this subhuman anymore
>>101484854Is timetravel real for schizos like your or is your reading comprehesion that bad? no one is making the argument that current actions affect the past, what is being argued is that Bae didn't do what she had to do to shut the discord pride off as she should've, and it shows
>>101484087You had to make shit up about some random boogeyman because you are that desperate, so keep seething kek
>>101479823Getting gate kept by your discord from a concert is news worthy. Lay off the Phase bogeyman it's not just us laughing at your idiots.
>>101484978She did
You are a braindead tranny who can't read so it doesn't matter even if she did
>>101485062>In public: I'm so sad>In private: I LOVE YOU I LOVE YOU I LOVE YOU please don't do that again I LOVE YOU I LOVE YOU I LOVE YOUHmm I wonder why it didn't work, a real mystery
>>101484781More like the brats don't even give a fuck what their own oshi thinks and care more about their in-group cliche discord faggotry than anything else
>>101484087also it's so fucking obvious you're leaping onto this muh phasefag boogeyman to abdicate all responsibility for your fuckwittery that your own oshi called out. Yeah bvtm is a phaseshill cunt and wants to harm holo but xhe is just the messenger; the actual events shown in those screenshots are literally real and can't be argued against. Phasefags didn't do this, it isn't a false flag or a gay-op - (You) brats did. This is all on (You) and you are so lacking in a sense of personal resposnibility that you even disregard what your own oshi is saying when she condemns you for it and either try to read into it and spin it as being favorable to what you did somehow or you just dismiss it entirely. Because your little in-group discordfaggot club matters more than anything else, even more than Bae herself.
Don't give me more whataboutism or deflect to something else. Take responsibility.
>>101485146>please don't do that againWhoa, it's almost like she did it
>>101485180Dumb shit for brains that's a pretty big essay you wrote for someone who can't fucking read. Read my post again
I'm not going to take responsibility of the actions of faggot discord brats, that's a small portion of her fanbase
>>101484087>people getting mad at them because they're mad at BVTM for blowing this upI'm nooticing.
>>101485180>Take responsibility for saltedfaggotPut a bullet through that brain
>>101485194A poor job? definetly.
>>101479489 (OP)she should have pointed out how the graduated members are her friends
If I started posting the ticket exchange channels that every single /jp/ fan discord has, where they literally do the exact same thing (sometimes on an even larger scale) will you anons raise as much of a stink?
These are common practices in non-raffle ticket situations. Come on. You're butthurt over nothing.
>>101485380Please do. That would be great ammo
>>101480872This is the real reason. This kind of fuckery in the ends only benefits the ones inside the biggest fanbase. And the wording ("war room" "because graduations we have less competition") make it look like there is an "us against them" mentality behind it. Like Bae said, maybe a good idea, but the execution was really bad. Now everyone thinks bae fanbase is a bunch of tribalfags. She should have been way more harsh, desu.
>>101485380>it's ok because GRORIOUS NIPPON does itJust when I thought the spin doctoring ITT couldn't be any more of a Holobrony cope cliché.
>>101485380>stop talking about how gay this is or I'll prove other people do it too!!1: just post them, it's gay behavior whoever is doing it and they should be shamed for it publicly.
2: that makes this even worse because the brats are now confirmed most retarded discord channel as they caused drama for their oshi over "nothing"
>>101479489 (OP)If there is too much demand and not enough tickets to offer, then event organizers should either increase ticket price or book a bigger place to host the event.
>>101484863>Please do not celebrate the graduation of my fellows, do not be such a dickshe didn't say this and that is an issue
>>101485380Post them. That way the Bratcord and everyone can learn a thing or two on how to do this and avoid being put on blast for next time.
>>101479489 (OP)Unless Cover uses a small venue or doesn't do concerts in the US, ticketmaster will make this a problem forever
>>101485908Almost like a vendor having the monopoly in venue options is actually detrimental.
curious
luwud the merch partner was found out but successfully deflected his sexpest behaviour by calling the haters parasocial
paid clippers are fucking insane and publicly sharing their sexual fetishes
#boycotphasecon2026
>>101485808Moralfagging about making fun of a graduation while posting on /vt/ is a fucking hilarious lack of self awareness
>>101479489 (OP)She deserves my cock inside her
>>101485294you allowed him to exist in your fanbase and foment this bullshit and you went along with it. Don't try to swan your way out of sharing the responsibility now that bread is getting rightly salted. You are all accountable, not just one doughy fat fuck discordfag.
>>101485250>muh small portion of fanbaseit's the core fanbase you coping faggot and Bae holds all of you account for it.
>>101482159>your actions can even erode the relationships between talents>a proper apology is neededthey really do not care about what she had to say with how they could not muster a proper apology for her or the other fancords they talked smack about and instead chose to come post here and fight ghosts all day
all the discord servers including baes are scared of even attempting this again
>>101486286But phasetrannykun here told me that they didn't learn their lesson
>>101486065what are you smoking anon
>>101486286They did nothing morally wrong and the entire vtuber community browbeat Bae into wagging their finger at them.
Embarrassing stuff this weekend.
Bros how are they suppost to get new customers if their loyal fans buy out all their shit? Concerts are for growing views and merch sales FUCK THE FANS.
>>101486200>couple hundred discord circlejerkers >core fanbaseYou really are a dumb retarded tranny. You should kill yourself
>>101486286>we shouldn't do any group buying that is publicly announced un that way on the serverread between the lines they will grab everyone who participated in the war room and shove them into a private server so that no leaks can happen
>>101486444>grab everyone who participated in the war roomWoah... a massive amount of 30-45 people... fuck the fact that distributions among friends happen on that scale anyways
Phasecuck...
>>101486522that bought 450 tickets stop acting dumb
>>101486542Oh shit, they are going to buy 450 tickets and somehow distribute all of them without publicly announcing it, the thing they are already struggling to do even with public coverage?
What an absolutely smart, functioning anon
>>101486602do a poll "did you fail to get a ticket?" dm anyone that vote yes telling them you have spares you are not very smart if you cannot realize that there are more ways than one to go about it
>>101486542Someone stop the brat menace before they purchase manila san's country!
>attending brown concert
couldn't be me
>>101486444At least that means they are finally using what brains they have.
>>101486678Kek
>>101486667Maybe they should do that right now if they can't distribute the tickets fast enough. It's almost like the method is trash
Who fucking cares its just a ticket to a concert.
No one is getting hurt here.
>Samefagging
>Patting himself on the back
The deranged brat running damage control ITT thinks he's not obvious with what he's doing
>>101486799>Phasecuckie malding because the brats actually won't do it again after Bae said they shouldn'tLovely
>>101486391why the fuck did Bae respond to it with a lengthy member's post if it's so unimportant and not indicative of the fanbase then? Fucking retard
keep deflecting and smugly doubling down on your retardation it totally makes you look good and definitely doesn't fuel making everybody else looking at this from the outside think brats are one of the worst fanbases. Keep going retard, keep defending your discordfaggotry and deflecting , you're winning SO hard by being so blaise , self-confident and dismissive about it, it definitely doesn't keep turning public opinion against you or anything. Dumbfuck.
>>101486835It is unimportant its a fucking concert ticket
Grow up
Imagine self exposing THIS hard, she loves you until you get in the way of getting more audience exposure.
>>101486799I wouldn't even be surprised if it's SaltyFaggot himself tbdesu
>>101486678projection is one hell of a drug
>>101486835You are a dumb. Retarded. Son of a whore.
Nobody said it was unimportant especially with how it blew up that much
Regardless, the point stands that bratcord are a portion of her fanbase
pocket janny finally woke up
>>101486953>Phaseshit crying after his samefag got deleted Kek
>>101486972grow up muh phase boogeyman coping bastard
>>101487029>Crying after being exposed
>>101484978she said it nicely and tucked into like 5 paragraphs of fluff but it's pretty fucking clear she said she disapproves of it unless you're literally totally blind and/or have basal ESL reading skills.
>"... Good intentions can be wrongly executed">"... there's nothing I would want more to see you all supporting me on stage. But if it's done at the expense of others, that is where I do have a problem."to pretend bae didn't directly shut it down is disingenuous. she did. if that discord clique is pretending to not see it or pretends it isn't about them then they're worthless shitters.
i've met baecord people at cons, they are very obnoxious
>>101486286should bring up that all of these discord servers have a secret hidden clique server for all the moderators of every server
>>101487386yea the clique behaviour is very bad and has put me off these discords, it makes newcomers feel really unwelcomed, much worse at offkais
>>101486286Moral of the story: never challenge scalpers.
>>101487386I sure hope that isnt an affiliate server
>hornyoh no no no :DD
discord trannies are absolute cancer
>>101487386>We shouldn't do ANY>...that is publicly announcedLearned literally nothing
>>101487386I hate how closed off discord is. If you're going to post shit on a forum, it's public.
>>101487134look at the response they had on the very same discord where it happened it is clear they are using the fluff as cope to ignore the critic
>>101481483The only recorded use of nukes in warfare was then followed by a 80 year period of "going back"
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Based brats, this is chaos the end of ends, what you expected?
if only the scalpers had gotten more tickets. they're missing out on thousands on pure profti
>>101487386can't believe discord mods are humongous losers next thing you'll tell me reddit mods are humongous losers too
>>101487386>I find in other cords this occurs naturally anyway>Not the incentivizes, but people buying a couple extra for friends and servergatekeeping is gatekeeping. 450 isn’t “a couple.”
if JP nikis pulled the same thing and bought out all the holofes tickets, gaijins would lose their minds. get them beg for tickets with whatever nihongo or social battery they’ve got. see how they like it.
>>101479489 (OP)>massive wall of text admonishing fansuhhh no you kinda deserve them if you do this
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>>101480675"A giant brat STD-filled orgy in Manhattan" is INSANE.
Its really funny that this is the controversy that people have latched onto when, while addressing this on stream, Bae accidentally leaked that one or more of the girls behind the scenes are petty enough to use something like this to ice her out.
Guess Niji EN aren't the only ones who are terrible bullies behind the scenes, kek.
It's crazy that a good 60% of this entire thread is literally just
>Scalping is good actually
>>101492388if it isn't jacked up price it's not scalping ESL-Kun, for the last time.
>>101492388We should have the ip back. You can clearly tell who praises it is the same retard.