Why can't vtubers stay in character and always come up with some irl shit? - /vt/ (#101482958) [Archived: 900 hours ago]

Anonymous
6/22/2025, 11:17:44 PM No.101482958
Yamu Rozenheart
Yamu Rozenheart
md5: 991d094e42293af689ba1457ca99d590๐Ÿ”
>be a successful Hispanic vtuber
>Queen of Hearts theme from Alice in Wonderland
>speak neutral spanish
>streaming at a midpoint for all spanish speakers
>get hundreds of viewers
>receive thousands of dollars and mexican pesos even sometimes euros
>suddenly confesses to being from Argentina
>start speaking in the retard Argentine dialect
>starts talking about soccer
>starts talking about things that only an Argentinian understands
>starts streaming at Argentina time
>loses ~70% of her fan base (most of them Mexicans and Mexico-Americans)
>loses dollars and mexican pesos and now only receives worthless ARS
why some vtubers can't just stay in character? why do something so fucking retarded? why?
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Anonymous
6/22/2025, 11:19:32 PM No.101483006
anyone vying to become an e-celeb is too narcissistic to not it all about their personal lives
staying in character requires a degree of professionalism and humility these people do not have
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Anonymous
6/22/2025, 11:21:36 PM No.101483076
usd to argentine peso
usd to argentine peso
md5: 4bd18611cf9cd9c10e4ad4fdafbf38dd๐Ÿ”
Geez.....
If i were to send her 2 bucks USD would she send me nudes?
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 12:12:01 AM No.101485006
Sorry man, us whiteys get taught all you latinx people are the same and all love each other so cant relate
Replies: >>101485387
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 12:20:31 AM No.101485387
>>101485006
you aren't white rajesh
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 12:22:38 AM No.101485485
Why mexicans always seeth over argies? Chill dude
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 12:23:47 AM No.101485546
Make her speak English and she will make enough to buy Argentina within a year.
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 12:24:58 AM No.101485611
>argie vtuber
>talks about argie things
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 12:25:09 AM No.101485623
>>101485485
Ever watched the movie called the hole?
Replies: >>101485771
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 12:26:47 AM No.101485691
>>101482958 (OP)
Quedaste un poco ardido meximono KEK
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 12:28:20 AM No.101485760
>>101485485
Because they are whiter than they are.
Replies: >>101487952 >>101488039
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 12:28:38 AM No.101485771
>>101485623
No, what about it?
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 12:30:38 AM No.101485863
Honestly, sounds great
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 12:33:46 AM No.101485998
>>101482958 (OP)
>loses ~70% of her fan base (most of them Mexicans and Mexico-Americans)
BASED
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 12:38:09 AM No.101486181
>>101482958 (OP)
because it is (usually) all improv content and they can't handle being in character for 6 hours a day every day at all times. they aren't actors they are random women with an anime png
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 12:41:17 AM No.101486304
Yamu, if you're going to pander to Mexicans like you do in every stream, can you at least not use Chilango slang

They're as annoying and insufferable as the Argentines /here/
Replies: >>101486425 >>101488309
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 12:42:05 AM No.101486341
mexicans can't stand not being the main source of attention everywhere?
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 12:44:21 AM No.101486425
>>101486304
>sombrero
>mustache
>tacos
>texan accent
>carteles
>mariachis
Is there other way to pander them? I think chimps are happy with just that from any vtuber
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 1:15:43 AM No.101487648
>>101482958 (OP)
you did it to yourself anon, it only took me only a few streams to be sure that she was a bpd narcissistic bitch who cant stand a single tiny joke and doesnt care about her audience since she barely paid attention to them.
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 1:17:40 AM No.101487735
ARGIE HATE
MUT MEXICO LOVE
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 1:19:05 AM No.101487785
>>101483076
Send 3.50 and you can have even more than that
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 1:19:47 AM No.101487816
>>101482958 (OP)
I don't care.
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 1:20:44 AM No.101487864
>>101482958 (OP)
Because Argentinians always are full of themselves.
Replies: >>101488000
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 1:22:54 AM No.101487952
>>101485760
Lol
Lmao even
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 1:24:02 AM No.101488000
>>101487864
>Because argies are full of themselves
>Mexinigger seething because his country isn't being talked by an argie chuuba
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 1:25:19 AM No.101488035
>>101485485
Mexicans always seethe about South America for some reason, I've seen Mexicans talking shit about Brazilians and Surinamese people before
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 1:25:23 AM No.101488039
>>101485760
lol k makes sense
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 1:32:40 AM No.101488309
>>101486304
>yamu
>pandering to mexishits
She hates them bro
Replies: >>101489064
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 1:32:40 AM No.101488310
>>101488035
Hi. Spaniard here. Can't sleep because heatwave so i'm here killing time. We hate argentinians too. Every spanish speaking country hates them. Maybe because they believe they are white or because their obnoxius accent. Maybe because most of them are fucking annoying with a "better than you" attitude.
Either way, op I understand you. You are a whiny faggot, but i would have dropped her too.
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 1:34:09 AM No.101488370
>>101488310
Are you an actual spaintard or a moro?
Replies: >>101488438
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 1:35:28 AM No.101488429
>>101488035
>Mexicans talking shit about Brazilians
No way. Mexicans love Brazilians because they make Argies seethe, and also because Brazilians love El Chavo
>and Surinamese
99.5% of Mexicans don't even know about a country named Suriname
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 1:35:40 AM No.101488438
>>101488370
I have to work in Seven hours. Make a guess.
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 1:37:30 AM No.101488500
>>101488310
This
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 1:37:52 AM No.101488513
I find it funny how mexicans think they are the big shit while I have Juancito cleaning the shit from my front yard
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 1:40:07 AM No.101488592
>>101488035
man wtf is a submarinese you're just making things up now
Replies: >>101488701
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 1:42:48 AM No.101488701
IMG_8983
IMG_8983
md5: 0c91e44e7a7935fdceee25e738432d75๐Ÿ”
>>101488592
Replies: >>101496488
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 1:43:56 AM No.101488736
>>101482958 (OP)
Simple, ever VTuber, regardless of country or language eventually breaks down. It's the direct result of playing a character multiple hours a day, multiple days a week. It's inevitable for all vtubers.
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 1:44:02 AM No.101488741
argpeko
argpeko
md5: 51d6fb78d70f3f2dc8f9ad0a7f824d90๐Ÿ”
>>101482958 (OP)
ANOTHER FUCKING CORONACION DE GLORIA RAHHHHHHHH
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 1:44:12 AM No.101488747
>>101488513
You're not gringo, santiago, stop dreaming.
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 1:46:17 AM No.101488822
>>101488035
>Mexicans talking shit about Brazilians
if you are going to lie at least make up something better like mexicans trashtalking peruvians
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 1:52:45 AM No.101489064
>>101488309
she doesn't but even if she did, she sure loves non-meme currencies
why do you think Yamu doesn't do membership streams, my southern friend?
Replies: >>101490522
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 1:54:13 AM No.101489124
>>101488310
that's Chile
also I doubt you're Spaniard
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 1:56:40 AM No.101489216
>>101482958 (OP)
Mexichango ardido por que una vtuber Argentina actua como Argentina.
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 2:24:21 AM No.101490272
8b0
8b0
md5: 7b9d4ad7345be74dbd657cc3f6357961๐Ÿ”
Narcissism, it's rare for a woman not to be a narcissist, that's why I really love those who avoid breaking out of character
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 2:30:53 AM No.101490522
>>101489064
>why do you think Yamu doesn't do membership streams
Do tell
Replies: >>101493047
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 3:00:47 AM No.101491671
>>101482958 (OP)
They're just copying hololive.
Replies: >>101492250
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 3:14:59 AM No.101492250
>>101491671
What? How? lol
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 3:35:07 AM No.101493047
>>101490522
Since you asked nicely southern friend ^_^
When people spam memberships and superchats that cost the equivalent of 5 cents USD each, there is no reason to make premium content when it's given away for almost nothing.
Why would anyone work for free?
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 3:48:16 AM No.101493555
>>101482958 (OP)
https://x.com/YamuRozenheart/status/1936877052637905017
yabotsagis...
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 4:04:18 AM No.101494146
>>101482958 (OP)
Just bake /ESmol/ brother
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 4:14:21 AM No.101494519
You care too much about a girl not mentioning your shitty country, ain't there some mexican chuuba around you can be obsessed with?
Replies: >>101497642
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 4:15:24 AM No.101494564
>>101482958 (OP)
Bro, Kayfabe has been dead for years.
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 5:12:43 AM No.101496488
>>101488701
>Brownsberg
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 5:27:39 AM No.101496969
>>101488035
not really, most of South America likes Mexico except Argentina (football autism) and Peru (literal inferiority complex)
Replies: >>101497397 >>101498959 >>101504116
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 5:33:40 AM No.101497169
>>101482958 (OP)
>suddenly confesses to being from Argentina

She's never done it.
Every time someone ask her if she's from Argentina, she answers that she's from Wonderland.
It's even written in the rules.
Replies: >>101497276
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 5:36:21 AM No.101497276
>>101497169
ok Yamu
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 5:40:05 AM No.101497397
>>101496969
>except Argentina (football autism)
Tell me you're Mexican without telling me you're Mexican. Argentinians don't care about Mexico vis-a-vis football. This Mexico-Argentina rivalry is nothing but a fantasy in your head. Argentina has rivalries with countries like Brazil or England, the Mexican national team cannot be compared with Argentina's. Stop being delusional.
Replies: >>101498554
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 5:44:10 AM No.101497532
This is some wild shit.
Never seen this side of the fanbase seethe so hard about people I don't know before.
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 5:48:32 AM No.101497642
>>101494519
this, yamu always tries to soften her accent at least, as an Argentinian it is very rare to hear her speak in that neutral way.
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 6:00:13 AM No.101497971
Watasandia Latin America [sound=https%3A%2F%2Ffiles.catbox.moe%2Fsmq6ft.mp3]_thumb.jpg
>>101482958 (OP)
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 6:19:12 AM No.101498554
>>101497397
and even then they are still obsessed
even messi pointed this out, despite being much superior to mexico in the sport they are unable to shut the fuck up about it for whatever reason
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 6:33:07 AM No.101498959
>>101496969
>south america likes mexico
KEK LMAO
Your shitty grasa humor ruined spic internet
Replies: >>101499519
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 6:49:10 AM No.101499519
>>101498959
>grasa humor
oh you mean the shit the entire region would parrot
you adore us
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 8:01:54 AM No.101501500
toma un bumpo
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 10:24:14 AM No.101504116
>>101496969
No one in Latin America likes Mexico
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 10:53:01 AM No.101504574
The Yamu I used to love died at the end of February.
Replies: >>101505831
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 12:36:33 PM No.101505831
>>101504574
explain
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 3:43:10 PM No.101508789
elbumpo
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 3:59:46 PM No.101509085
As a bong, finding out that much of the world apparently seethes uncontrollably about Argentina makes me like them more, very relatable.
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 4:19:16 PM No.101509471
>>101482958 (OP)
Because Vtubers are humans with feeling and emotions and in fact not 2D anime girls they just like to larp as them
Replies: >>101509559 >>101510166
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 4:23:23 PM No.101509559
>>101509471
They can have those, but the appeal of vtubing to me is the distinction from real world bollocks. You can give allegory to all your IRL shit in the character setup, but the character is why people tune in to start with. It's charismatic. It's charming. It encourages you to be creative, and to ignore the bullshit that ruins so much of the celebrity world and normie spheres. You CAN squander all that, sure. Doesn't mean you should
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 4:56:17 PM No.101510166
>>101509471
then why do they choose to be vubers? just be a fleshtuber
Replies: >>101510969
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 5:34:56 PM No.101510969
>>101510166
ask them not me i called them larpers for a reason
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 7:15:40 PM No.101513444
>>101482958 (OP)
There's no good latam vtuber, I really tried hard to find one to practice my spanish, but they're all terrible
Replies: >>101513593 >>101537454
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 7:20:58 PM No.101513593
1744648704991058
1744648704991058
md5: 946962eb08a14fa0e9646bef9aed2755๐Ÿ”
>>101513444
>blocks your path
Replies: >>101533497
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 8:47:24 PM No.101515821
>>101482958 (OP)
She is still Hispanic though
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 9:00:09 PM No.101516165
>>101482958 (OP)
The amount of bullshit a vtuber is willing to deal with is inversely proportional to how much money they have on hand.
Some time after the equilibrium point they will have had enough and drop the mask or quit.
Replies: >>101516578
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 9:13:29 PM No.101516578
>>101516165
Mexicans are poorfags, that's why no serious corpo goes there
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 9:34:58 PM No.101517327
>>101482958 (OP)
Has she said what club is she a fan of?
I may have found a new oshi depending on the answer
Replies: >>101518574 >>101521243
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 10:19:35 PM No.101518574
>>101517327
Boca
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 11:59:43 PM No.101521243
>>101517327
sheยดs a villera make your guess
Replies: >>101552452
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 12:46:32 AM No.101522486
>>101482958 (OP)
>loses ~70% of her fan base (most of them Mexicans and Mexico-Americans)
>4.1K views Streamed 1 day ago
>5.7K views Streamed 1 month ago
>3.3K views Streamed 2 months ago
>5.7K views Streamed 4 months ago
>6.3K views Streamed 7 months ago
>3.1K views Streamed 10 months ago
>3.8K views Streamed 1 year ago
?
Replies: >>101522937
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 1:02:08 AM No.101522937
>>101522486
yea her avg was between 350-400 ccv but she's been using bots for about 6 months now
when she is live her chat barely moves and you can count no more than 50 real people plus she keeps begging for dollars and mexican pesos on her kofi and alts
Replies: >>101523087 >>101523788
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 1:07:01 AM No.101523072
>>101482958 (OP)
Can't care less about meximonos. The main problem now is that recently she has been acting like a massive slut, way worse than her days as Himea even.
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 1:07:34 AM No.101523087
>>101522937
Oh so this is just a seethe thread made by a schizo about a literal who.
Many such cases.
Replies: >>101533085 >>101535605
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 1:37:40 AM No.101523788
>>101522937
This kind of schizo is the most pathetic one, you better get another chuuba who actually cares about your mexican jokes, like those twitch whores from la grasa
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 1:45:16 AM No.101523951
>>101482958 (OP)
Bros I miss unity so much. Is she still friends with Shura or not?
Replies: >>101524769 >>101529015
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 1:47:23 AM No.101524002
>>101482958 (OP)
>loses mexican audience
And that's a good thing
Get the memo already nobody wants you around
Replies: >>101528820
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 1:51:18 AM No.101524098
>>101485485
Inferiority complex
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 2:18:50 AM No.101524769
>>101523951
Yes she is
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 2:49:07 AM No.101525454
keep seething argensimians Mexichads keeps the latam vtuber community afloat
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 4:37:46 AM No.101528171
otrobumpo
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 5:03:42 AM No.101528820
>>101524002
por su puesto yo solo gasto mis poderosos pesos mexicanos en quien vale la pena
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 5:09:06 AM No.101528938
Non-Mexican Latino here. Itโ€™s well known throughout the Latin world that Argies are full of themselves. Deeply annoying people.
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 5:12:11 AM No.101529015
>>101523951
No, she decided to be a two-faced bitch and pretend to be the victim when confronted about it.
Replies: >>101529259
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 5:18:54 AM No.101529179
>another argentine whore
Anon, Didn't you learn anything from nimu?
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 5:21:35 AM No.101529259
>>101529015
what about yukine? is she still frend with her?
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 6:17:01 AM No.101530792
>>101488513
This desu
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 8:09:18 AM No.101533085
>>101523087
I think so
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 8:36:16 AM No.101533497
>>101513593
Stop posting in this place, eru
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 8:51:49 AM No.101533771
>>101483006
Fpbp

>>101482958 (OP)
Vtubers want to be e-celebs rather than kayfabe roleplay characters, missing the entire point of vtubing. But unfortunately, this has happened on such a massive scale that now people just associate "vtubing" as parasitic parasocialism because the streamers bleed "roommate" bullshit into the character, even though they will never be le chinese cartoons IRL.

And this will sadly forever be how vtubing is seen because big corporations have fed into permitting their employees to behave like that. And people like Ironmouse and Shylily do the same thing, their "character" is just themselves IRL while only sometimes playing into their gimmicks. It sucks. Kizuna Ai worked so hard to introduce the idea of the gimmick, only for ethots and ethot wannabes to ruin it for everyone.
Replies: >>101539842 >>101541809
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 10:33:25 AM No.101535605
>>101523087
At least it's on-topic. Remember most get like 3.5-4 viewers, not hundreds.
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 12:24:34 PM No.101537426
>>101482958 (OP)
>soccer
amerishart detected, opinion rejected
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 12:26:16 PM No.101537454
>>101513444
try finding a Spanish chuuba then
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 3:00:13 PM No.101539842
>>101483006
>>101533771
Outstanding posts for /vt/ standards, good work.
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 4:55:31 PM No.101541809
>>101533771
>Vtubers want to be e-celebs rather than kayfabe roleplay characters, missing the entire point of vtubing. But unfortunately, this has happened on such a massive scale that now people just associate "vtubing" as parasitic parasocialism because the streamers bleed "roommate" bullshit into the character, even though they will never be le chinese cartoons IRL.
What I don't get is why nu vtubers don't put in the smidge of extra work needed so you can have both

>phrase all your IRL shit in the context of the bit
>pay lipservice to it
>if something pops up mid-stream that appeals to your brand, play into it

Don't these people have any love for stories or storytelling? You have the whole world in the palm of your hand, use it

I remember when Nerissa's brother popped on and he was a better larper than most paid professionals
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 5:26:43 PM No.101542544
>>101490272
men literally do this with fish
Replies: >>101543033 >>101558211 >>101558868
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 5:50:23 PM No.101543033
>>101542544
That's to do a size comparison you dumb whore
Replies: >>101543272
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 6:00:13 PM No.101543272
>>101543033
Nah they wanna pose with the fish
Replies: >>101543595
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 6:14:56 PM No.101543595
>>101543272
and you want to pleasure yourself with the fish
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 8:20:02 PM No.101547004
>>101488310
can you explain how different the accent of argentinians vs the rest of the spanish speaking world? it just sounds slightly less manly.
Replies: >>101549511 >>101554320
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 9:47:11 PM No.101549511
>>101547004
For starters they conjugate verbs differently for the second person sigular.
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 10:42:12 PM No.101550931
>>101482958 (OP)
Is she a Boca fan?
Replies: >>101552452
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 11:34:46 PM No.101552452
>>101550931
>
>>101521243
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 12:45:35 AM No.101554320
>>101547004
don't know how to explain it, but the villero accent sounds fucking retard and annoying and yes she's villera
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 2:33:31 AM No.101557745
FomhOaEXsAEgoCN
FomhOaEXsAEgoCN
md5: d66584d9b37b745484765a069fb4d550๐Ÿ”
For me it's Aisu Kurimu
Replies: >>101559710 >>101573720 >>101573861
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 2:47:38 AM No.101558211
>>101542544
retard
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 3:04:49 AM No.101558868
>>101542544
Man don't put the fucking fish behind them, wtf
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 3:26:56 AM No.101559710
>>101557745
stopped supporting her after the irl pics
Replies: >>101559859 >>101570477
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 3:30:53 AM No.101559859
>>101559710
Do you have the gay? If anything it made me infinitely more interested in her knowing how pretty she is. If only she wasn't so menhera tho...
Replies: >>101561130 >>101565873 >>101568249
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 3:40:53 AM No.101560257
>>101488035
Before Muh Milei saved Arg from globalists by selling all assets to global bankers, it was commonly agreed they were among the most annoying people in the world.
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 4:03:25 AM No.101561130
>>101559859
she is mid af
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 5:27:35 AM No.101563995
Yamu. . .
Yamu. . .
Yamu. . .
Replies: >>101564730
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 5:52:36 AM No.101564730
>>101563995
Based
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 6:32:22 AM No.101565873
>>101559859
she is mid at most anon, i see those kind of faces every fucking day.

>>101482958 (OP)
Of all the characters to choose from in that book, she identifies with the most narcissistic, psychopathic and manipulative one, why are you following that cunt?
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 8:06:27 AM No.101568249
>>101559859
Just how ugly is the average girl over there?
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 10:09:31 AM No.101570477
>>101559710
that's awfully shallow of you
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 2:14:17 PM No.101573720
>>101557745
I love her so much
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 2:23:52 PM No.101573842
>>101488035
honestly fair
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 2:25:40 PM No.101573861
>>101557745
nice design