Yeah I am noticing

>>101506018 (OP)
They need Saba because they're reclining

>>101506018 (OP)
All the Ex-Holos sure are leeching

>>101506063
No one says recline when talking about graph trends, dumbass. Do you mean decline? Fucking brown feet

>>101506115
OK newfag

>>101506063
Damn. Devastating.

>>101506018 (OP)
stop reposting my fucking tweet!

>>101506018 (OP)
Who the fuck is Aya

>>101506018 (OP)
It must feel really freeing to escape a restrictive Japanese company like Cover that canceled most of their ideas and projects they paid their own money for, while still taking a cut of the profits and credit for the ones they actually did manage to release. "No more hands upon my words, they only speak for me." I'm sure most ex-Holos feel this way.

>her friends are happy that she's debuting
That's it, that's literally it. If you believe there's a wider conspiracy going on, you need to get offline and find yourselves a worthwhile hobby.

>>101506018 (OP)
People forget that EVERYONE WHO GRAUDUATED Hololive starting last year was either part of Gura's circle of friends or Gura friendly. Gura was the most impacted by all the graduations and the one who likely has the most favor with all of them. Most of SNOT, half of Unisea and Trinity are out with her, it's just insane to me

>>101506325
This looks ugly please tell me this is just fanart

>>101506018 (OP)
who the fuck is sachi

>>101506445
Mumei lol. Go do some dumpster diving to know what kind of a bitch she is

>>101506445
Ame

>>101506479
I know dob and mimi but first time I heard about sachi

>>101506473
Didn't she retire because she had her throat too fucked to stream or something?

>>101506445
Mumei

>>101506018 (OP)
So are they gonna actually stream consistently?

>>101506431
>Literally has the artist's name on it
do you ever feel bad about how stupid you are, what a burden you place on others by existing?

>>101506534
Doob just announced yet another hiatus.
Also RORU RUMAO for the other two

>>101506399
They can celebrate privately instead of broadcasting to the world how happy they are about the business decision of a girl they'll leech from in the coming months.

Why couldn't they just continue doing it in holo? The only answer that makes sense for me is that Cover were forcing them to spend a couple months per year in Japan and they weren't up for it. But seems weird they couldn't figure out a compromise.

>>101506404
white girl clique (american edition)

>>101506063
Ame bought a 2nd house btw.
No BD merch & SC still off btw.

>>101506534
Heh

>>101506562
kill yourself windy

>>101506495
The throat hort was nowhere near bad enough to stop streaming and she told her fans as much privately. Cover simply didn't give her as many things as she wanted and they didn't care to keep her ungrateful lazy ass around.

>>101506562
well at least you arent stupid enough to try and claim Nimi only streamed 2 times in 2 weeks this time brownfeet

>>101506619
This doesn't make any sense when both Ina & Zeta confirmed Ame went to Japan twice just because they asked.

>>101506650
>>101506656
Melty time

>>101506534
She just gonna do a fauna and beg for some hundreds of thousands of dollars then laze up with her husband

>>101506656
She barely streamed this week, dumbass

>>101506614
You need to reread the second sentence of the post you're replying to

>>101506652
So they fired her?
Never watched her, all her solo streams had 0 motivation or entertainment

>>101506684
???
she streamed five times this last week

>>101506619
Continue doing what? They aren't doing anything now. Vtweeting isn't related to vtubing.

>>101506614
>they interact with eachother in a corpo where everyone is expected to pretend to be friends
I love this! Holo brand love! :) <3
>these same girls interact with eachother of their own free will as indies
Fucking traitor whore grifter leeches?!? >:( </3
Holodrones are so fucked up in the head.

>>101506614
Can they? They have literally no backbone, their only money comes from people who weave wild tales in their mind about how close they actually are and hinting at that as truth is their only way to keep the stalker fans excited.

>>101506115
its a /jp/ meme

>>101506915
You know that it is inherently more disingenuous when they do it as indies. In the corpo they were a part of, there's so much to choose from that there are tons of completely different and organic friend groups. They are the people you are forced to be friendly with (like your gen) but once it's free choice, people settle into very different groups. But as indies, everyone has to signal that they like everyone else, as if that somehow makes any sense. People who never interacted for years when they were co-workers are suddenly best friends because of their "shared trauma". It's so retarded.

>>101506925
>Can they? They have literally no backbone, their only money comes from people who weave wild tales in their mind about how close they actually are and hinting at that as truth is their only way to keep the stalker fans excited.
But enough about Holos

>>101506115
go back nog

>>101506987
I stopped reading after the first sentence because it was already so retarded as is.

>>101506987
Your brain is actually so warped by brand loyalty that you only view corporate mandated friendships as real, while dismissing all indie friendships as fake. You're a genuinely sad existence and I pity you. I can't even get mad, and I hope one day you can overcome the brainwashing like I did.

>>101506661
Doesn't mean that she was happy doing it. These girls can't easily say "no" to jap suits.

>>101507073
>Women
>Friends

>>101506915
Never forget she tweet replied Among Us with this gif when Among Us twitter tweeted out "A". I always wondered why Gura did that? Was she genuinely disgusted by them referencing her catchphrase, or was she just playing along the banter?

>>101507073
They are only friends if the managers say they are. Cope ligger grifter fag. Their real friendships don't matter. Only the friendships of the characters. The managers decide what the characters do and think.

>>101506710
nah, dude just mad about 10 year old stuff.

>>101507091
>playing along the banter
It's always the SEAs with drama encrusted on their double helices who obsess over shit like this.

>>101506987
Holy fuck actually brainwashed monkey

>>101507083
She literally said her light traveling was enjoyable.

>>101506889
but enough about nerissa

>>101507105
What happened 10 years ago

>>101507168
you can go dumpster diving yourself if you think that matters more than her current self

>>101507168
She defended a known pedo groomer online by gaslighting his victims lol

>>101506915
You won't fuck Saba you simp.

>>101507096
>they are only friends if the managers say they are
>they still associate with one another after the managers are out of the picture
Hmmm.

>>101507105
>hoocucks not even denying it anymore
So you guys simp for a cutter with a list of known boyfriends she cheated on and bullied girls online? Wow, you're scum.

>>101507205
>a known pedo groomer
Who?
>>101507185
I don't really care about her, all i know about her is that she wanted to join niji and ended up in holo, just curious

>>101507228
Yagoo won't fuck you, you simp.

>>101507205
At least read the entire thread instead of headlines, clown

>>101507273
Prove it

>doesn't want to be the face of vtubing
>be the face to vtubing again

>>101507301
It' almost like the company was what she took issue with.

how my stream per week?

>>101506018 (OP)
MINT BTFO, WE HAVE ENOUGH LEGS TO PLAY THE MARIO PARTY NOW

>>101507301
>be the face to vtubing
How the fuck?
She only got popular due the gigantic pedo fanbase, her model did all her work for her

>>101507270
Einshine, tldr a vindictive ex orchestrated some witch hunt where she was hyping up this expose video that completely failed, shachi had some retarded beef with one of the side hoes that completely dissappeared at the start until shachi said something about it, curious.. Anyway nothing came from it even tho the side hoes SWEARED they were going to the police at the end of it all

>>101506018 (OP)
Nice to see them so supportive.
Would have been nice to see the current ones also make some token gesture on their roommate accounts.

BURN IT ALL DOWN
FUCK CORPOS

>>101507478
BASED
A
S
E
D

>>101506625
Hololive gave her a fat check to remain affiliate. If she wouldn’t took it she would have been grifting for money like nimiwhore

>>101507478
>>101507506
How did no Saba/Nimi no buy go for the concert?
And how's Nimi's concert doing?

Good for her. I just hope things won't go shit as time goes by.

>>101506063
oof

>>101507535
honestly i think nimi and dooby are crying every night about how they can't sell the worst seats in the venue for their dream concert that they get paid to be at

>>101507594
This but unironically

>>101506115
lmao youre so fucking new it hurts

>>101507506
i cant believe they had four white women quit back to back. and kiara is next in 2026

>>101506710
Not fired, no EN has been fired. More like she probably wanted certain things, cover said no and she decided to graduate. Normally when a Holo gets graduated, they just get a tweet white letter tweet from the corpo.

>>101507512
I don't know, I don't think there is money in affliate, who the heck pays someone to do nothing.

This isn't like 60 year old retirement funds

>>101507644
That certain thing? Idolshit.

>>101507697
more like trying to turn her punk song in to idol shit, she's fine with idol shit seperately

>>101506018 (OP)
I'll give her the benefit of the doubt and assume Gura never streamed because evil japanaese corpo was holding her back and she'll do daily/weekly streams from now on.

When's mumei's turn?

>>101507727
How's it like to go through life while lacking the ability to recognize very obvious patterns?

>>101507768
when she realizes her "dream" job is 80% working on research at a lab pc

>>101507768
but she's literally sick, unless she's lying of course.

>>101507781
As an autist that unironically sounds like a dream job. She'll be fine.

>>101507821
t. never watched a mumei stream

>>101507623
It's so unbelievable it made you memoryhole Aqua, Shion and Chloe also quitting.

>>101507814
What sick fuck would lie about being sick?

>>101507768
After Shion.

>>101507814
Leaving holo worked for chloe's voice

>>101507506
You do realize what these theories imply is EVERYONE ELSE agrees with management. Therefore, it just makes the people who leave look like retards rather than individuals with actual motivations.

>>101507301
She was never the face of vtubing, not even EN vtubing. Maybe she was specifically the face of JP-owned EN vtubing. She can never even be in that category again and she'll never touch the faces of EN vtubing, so she's really got nothing.

>>101507900
failed deductive reasoning

>>101507073
Your indie friendships being real in this case relies on you believing the corporate mandated friendships were real you fucking cockgoblin.

>>101506018 (OP)
The leeches are out and Gura will ignore all of them like she has always been

>>101507922
yeah yea ye

>>101507953
She picked Dooby's birthday as her debut, retard

>>101507928
Everyone else literally came out and defended management and implied the ones who left were menhera. If more people saying something makes it valid, the management defenders win in a landslide. The people who left have never said an honest thing in your lives.

>>101506063
all this tells me is aside from the graduation/debut buff, they trend along exactly where they were just without cover's cut.

>>101506473
The autistic type, still better than Minto tho

>>101506404
holo clique is real??!

>>101507967
I fail to understand how that changes what I said, do you understand english?

>>101507352
get catfished loser

>>101507352
real curious how non of the top vtubers left are lolis yet this keeps being stated

>>101508030
How is it leeching when Saba picks her debut day to fit Dooby & not the other way around?

>>101507900
>majority is always correct

>>101507969
>If more people saying something makes it valid
Do you know what the Spartans said to Macedonian king Phillip II?

>>101507535
>corpomonkey
>SEA
every time

>>101507535
>How did no Saba/Nimi no buy go for the concert?
ook ook

>>101507969
It's shit like this that makes you realize how much Holobronies and Nijisisters are deep down corpodrones all the same.

>>101507258
fuck off moralfag, she sounds even more based noow

>Listen Gura... we need you to stream at least two times a month, ok? Just 3 hours each, 6 hours total in a month. That would be fine with us, can you do this? In exchange you'll make even more millions and get to live the easiest coziest life ever

>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO THIS IS SLAVERY

>>101508064
the only vtuber that matters is a loli wtf you talking about faggot

>>101508190
so she's not a grifter, got it

>>101508064
Who are the top vtubers now?
I only watch indies and gigi

>>101508190
What will your next amazing feat of contortion be, brownfeet?
Will it be the one about Nimi not wanting to do idol stuff again?
or how about "She only streamed twice in the last 2 weeks!"?

I love how the nijisister melties about Hololive never end. Success truly breeds jealousy.

>>101508375
You aren't going to fuck a vtuber
Why white knight for them

>>101508375
these guys i bet only watch gay ass nigga vtubers and come here shit talking god vtubers and saying loli vtubers aren't popular any more and i hate them stop talking shit about nimi biboo and saying saba is going to be lazy fucking ass holes

>>101507900
>EVERYONE ELSE agrees with management
Nah, they just put up with it.

>>101508067
See, you don't get it because you're thinking with normal people logic, and instead you need to use /vt/ retard logic. Under that set of rules any interaction the anon writing doesn't like is leeching, but any they like is based, even if they are otherwise identical.

>>101508375
Sorry to disappoint, not him.

>>101508450
You aren't going to fuck a company
Why white knight for them

>>101507355
tbf irys the only holo en who isn't a whore. she's a pure hikiko virgin neet for sure

>>101509302
yeah, absolutely no skeletons in her closet

You love to see it.

kronii literally said she too has disagreements with management but money's tight
so did bae

>>101509189
>You aren't going to fuck a company
If Aster taught me anything is that I can fuck an entire company

>>101506325
>Cover that canceled most of their ideas and projects they paid their own money for

I'd like to see this so called list of projects paid for with their own money that this company cancelled. And not some list you faggot vtuber simps imagined. Show me proof

>>101506063
Botlive...

>>101506063
I mean, Gura always carries Hololive, so I expect her to carry her new clique too

>>101506063
Makes you wonder how they feel about leaving now

Why do you people care so much.
They're already gone from the corpo, what does it matter what they're doing? You got plenty of holo girls to watch and enjoy, why hyperfocus on the ones that left.

>>101509970
Nimi is pretty happy, Dooby bought another house & traveled to Japan just to have sex with Ina & Zeta, so pretty well, I guess.

>>101506018 (OP)
Those likes, retweets and engagement numbers aren't really spectacular...

>>101509988
Nice shitty AI art buddy. Hope you enjoy that girls magical 6th finger up your ass.

Can't wait for their stream! (Singular)

>>101506614
you can kill yourself instead of posting here?

>>101510190
>Points out the finger but not the fact that rosemi is holding a haaton and not a buta
Fucking secondary's.

>>101506063
goes to show what happens when they're no longer pointed in the right direction by management.

>>101506063
funny how holo numberfags have turned on ex-holos

>>101506063
The biggest strength of hololive is the camaraderie and the collabs with other girls that have been vetted and aren't gutter trash like 99% of vtuber indies.
As indies, they lose this and can never replace it because there is no indie equivalent to a bunch of cute women being friends and having regular interactions, either IRL or in garden-walled servers. The dumbest, most short-sighted, unmindful fans convince themselves everything will be the same when their oshies graduate because they never understood that they didn't want an ethot streamer. They wanted a streaming idol that was part of something bigger whose existence had purpose.

>>101510232
>why point that shit out when it's AI

Dumb fuck.

>>101510411
This exactly. Jealous indies tend to rage about this, but there's a reason why the most walled garden is the industry leader. It's because it works and people love it.

>>101510411
>cute women
And you think this applies to EN? Nigga please.

>>101506063
>graduation buff gone and Nimi is still a natty 5 viewer
Only Holokeks and phasechuds fall for this bait, cuckfeet

>>101506495
Sachi doesn't stream, she posts art and posted a 1 min clip of her singing once

>>101506325
literal fanfiction
she a goldbricker anon
it's fine to like her, but stop pretending she's Trotsky

>>101509988
They betrayed godlord Yagoo and the holy shareholders, and for that they must pay.

>>101507512
>meanwhile in reality nimi STILL hasn't activated superchats

>>101510411
>if you don't give 2/3 of your money to nippon investomento kapitarismu inc you don't have a purpose
drone moment

>>101509988
They don't like being reminded of Hololive's relative decline in the face of growing indie and small corpo market

>>101510959
always funny how irrelevant small corpos and indies keep trying to throw behind ex-holos as if they're on the same level

>>101507258
proof next thread ofc

>>101511013
always funny how you ignore they do this while they're in holo already

>>101510411
it's goal oriented content vs listless time killing
both are fine, but yeah they aren't the same and people would do well to go into things understanding this

>>101507666
>who the heck pays someone to do nothing.
>gura reincarnation thread

>>101510411
This was true 4 years ago. times change holobrony. Your white collar cult went public. Nothing is genuine and everything is pre-planned (even the surprises). It's perfectly to like hololive now but don't delude yourself into thinking it's the same of what made it's glory by including them in your bullet points.

>>101510953
>doesn't understand the value of girls working together and supporting each other and lifting each other up because they're all in it together
>thinks that 66% of their revenue goes to Cover when it's actually only half.
>is a poor SEAfag third-worlder who doesn't understand that making 50% of a giant number is larger than 100% of a tiny one
>doesn't realize that a ton of the money the girls give to Cover is reinvested into them through projects, concerts, studio time, promotion, merch logistics, managers, 3d engineers, etc
>thinks that he'd know about any of these girls if Cover hadn't made them famous (senzawa was a 3view before hololive, btw)
Cover isn't perfect by any means, and they've fucked up a lot and should be called out when they do, but being in hololive with tons of opportunity is still better than being an indie shitter.

>>101507821
She wanted to be around whales not a pc.
>>101507845
Mumei is an autist. Sorry.

>>101511237
Waiting for cuckfeet to bring up Nimi's April fools shilling stream

>>101506431
Even without the full frontal shot fanart, I already hate how overloaded her design in
>kemonomimi
>shark tail wink wink
>twintails
>scrunchy
>fancy, assymetrical hair ornament
>multiple color hair
It is already a clusterfuck of themes, and unless the full shot is some magnificent genius stroke that somehow magically ties EVERYTHING together, it's going to be overloaded.
Which is okay, it's just a bad approach to take
But the part I do actively hate is how that post's fanart is to all intents hinata if she saba and that does make me angry because she's one of the OGs that worked her ass off and keeps on the fucking grind no matter how the tide comes. And that does tickle me

>>101506404
Clique was real all along?

>>101511237
>getting sponsors that pay the girls is bad
Is that what your image is supposed to mean? You realize they were getting sponsorships before the IPO, right, retard?
You think your indie whore oshi doesn't want Coca-Cola's money, lmao?

>>101511429
The heckin sponsored souls clone collab let's goooo

It's totally worth it bro, my oshi's in debt to hololive cause she paid for her own birthday stream bro. She neeeeds to shill, so we can get more kino 3D streams bro

>>101510705
NTA, but Fauna didn't have any real friends in hololive. None of them even talk to her anymore. And Gura didn't know Fauna liked her singing during their final collab, which means they were never real friends either. The only real friends she had in hololive that continued to talk to her after she graduated were Vesper and Magni.

>>101506063
GRIIIIIIIM AIIIIEEEEE SAVE ME SABA SAMA

>>101511533
She mentioned playing league with friends after debuting, she cancelled her stream abruptly before Gura's graduation announcement

Sally won btw

>>101511652
How could I forget about her dooby collabs

>>101507814
>>101507768
>>101507845
Mumei completed her marine sciences degree the same month she graduated from hololive. That's what "civilization duties" always was for the last four years. The real reason she quit was because she wanted to follow her childhood dream and jerk off whales. She would never have slaved and struggled through university for the last four+ years if she never planned on using her degree.
It means her second reason for quitting that wasn't voice related that she couldn't talk about had nothing to do with management unless her "misalignment" with them was their refusal to let her stay in hololive if she was going to be beholden to a different employer and gone for nine months of the year out at whale conservations.

>>101509481
what skeletons are in her closet?

>>101511963
she would have finished that degree years ago if that was her dream, but i agree whale season would overlap with JP arc too much

>>101511516
Is this a falseflag or do some people genuinely think holos aren't rich as fuck?

>>101512042
It's probably the sister LARPer that keeps posting that image about Kobo borrowing from her manager while in Japan

>>101511516
>in debt to hololive
Even Roboco bought a house, nigger.
You have no idea what these girls make. Birthday lives never cost more than what they make in a couple weeks and they make it all back through merch sales, even while giving Cover a cut. You're a fucking retard. If they lost money, they wouldn't all be doing them.
And again, you're the dumbest, most braindead faggot here if you think your whore indie oshi wouldn't take Coca-Cola money.

>>101511963
Her "dream" is going to be her hunched over a computer for the majority of her time.

>>101512018
>she would have finished that degree years ago if that was her dream
I honestly don't think she could afford it before she joined hololive. She used to be a very unsuccessful small artist. I think hoomans should be happy that they were able to make Mumei's dreams come true, and at the same time, it's very understandable that they're saddened and grieving due to not being able to be a part of it.

>>101512233
she could afford MANY whale tours of 150$ each and a dslr camera im sure she could afford canadian college

>>101511652
You are so desperate to be right you don't realize your crumbs are air

>>101506018 (OP)
meh
i might check her out if i see that shes actually streaming regularly and taking it more seriously

>>101512202
It would be nice if she could still talk to her fans every once in a while.

>>101512276
She didn't go to Canadian college. Mumei is American, anon.

>>101512356
do your reps, both can be true

>>101512376
I thought she went to Tampa.

>>101512233
>She used to be a very unsuccessful small artist
Her old channel had almost a million subs before holo.

>>101512447
So did Senzawa, but she only ever had around 300 viewers. A million sub channel on youtube that pumps out a couple viral meme videos doesn't equal success. Not since 2012, when Youtube changed their algorithm to favor watch hours and fuck over animators.

>>101512447
>muh subcount
As expected from cumbuds.

Meanwhile in the real world, Shachimu's older videos (AKA, the ones that people didn't click on immediately after Mume'is graduation announcement) rarely got more than 100k total views outside a handful of viral videos and she was a 2view on twitch

>>101512766
>>101512847
She could do all the things >>101512299 mentioned so I'm still right in a sense.

>>101506115
>all these numberchimps seething about your comment
good job

>>101508190
>Can I do-
>No, your pubric Image, Same-chan
>Okay, but what about-
>Pubric image, Same-chan...
>But you let-
>Don't be Brand Risk, Same-chan
She definitely had a tighter leash on her, getting shot down and told no for things others could do easily. Reminder that, even though she was willing to use a 1M wish for it, they initially denied her request for a daki, because EN management kept pulling the "oh, your design looks young, it could cause problems, we might not be able to sell it" bullshit... and then about a week later, JP management gave a daki to the canonically underage Shion, no problems at all.

>>101512766
>>101512847
She could do all the things >>101512276 mentioned so I'm still right in a sense.

>>101512938
>>101513628
weird bot
this board is so gay and weird

>>101506063
>recline
>all of them are doing better than they did during Hololive except dooby
WDHMBT? All the retards simply replied because they cannot read the graphs?

>>101513667
No. Just tagged the wrong anon.

>>101506214
A trans Vietnamese immigrant currently living in the US

>>101506445
sachi is doobys pre-ame name
shachi is moom

>>101512387
she went to hpu which is the same school irys went to

>>101514301
Proof???

Shachimu is never happy

>>101506063
Where's Kson, Mikeneko and Rica on your chart?
>We only tr-
You're tracking Aqua, Chloe, Sakuna and Ruka; do better

>>101513554
You do realize Japan has always been extremely aware that what's okay in Japan is not okay overseas, right? There are Japanese companies who have released their own manga overseas and censored the fuck out of them preemptively. They also get a lot of this info from the people in the overseas localizing businesses who tell them this is just the way it is. It's an extremely recent phenomenon that Japan has decided to start censoring stuff in the production phase itself so even Japan gets the censored version rather than even bothering with two standards. The Japanese government has to push back against other governments trying to condemn them for their influence, most companies don't want to be caught up in some international controversy.

>>101506018 (OP)
Shachimu is never happy.

>>101514074
Post bussy?

>>101507623
kiara will never quit anon she will burn in the fires of your hatred until your last breath

>>101506431

>>101511405
this is why rhombus was denied an ahoge in her initial l2d kek
she just has the fashion sense of an 80 iq tranny

cat ears and a shark tail?
a bit gluttonous, no?

>>101506431
Gura hate having big fanbase so she trying everything to filter the most people.
It's still impressive how Saba look worse than Senzawa wich was an random anime character with swaped hairclip

>>101510411
>Purpose
What purpose? Giving money to a corporation?

>>101515164
And twin tails

>>101514119
What sort of clow world is this ?

>>101515514
Its the chaos of the real world. People have similar names.

>>101511237

>>101510287
you can tell this board is bad by the fact that on a non-shit board, people would just post a screenshot of that post, they wouldn't feel the need to frame it in a Twitter-tier meme.

>>101510411
>there is no indie equivalent to regular interactions between female friends
Anon, there are tons of equivalents to this, most of them just aren't funny. (same deal IRL.)

>>101511237
*its.

>>101510287

>>101514348
someone posted in dead site some old details from her pl that pointed to that being where she was going, it was something about how she was going inactive in her PL same time as when she was enrolling

>>101515645
holy based
>>101516225
>>101516512
cringe niji cope

>>101516225
Tourist.
>>101516512
Ironic.

>>101517759
>Dude just trust me my uncle works at nintendo

>>101515266
this design looks focus tested to get the most normie dollars possible

>>101516512
This aged like milk

>>101512356
I'm NTA but Mumei lives in Canada and has for years
>Her YouTube leaks as Mumei when YouTube crashed always showed YouTube CA, most recently in her graduation totsu
>Her old YouTube channel has her location in Canada
>Kronii talked about how she visited Mumei offstream all the time
>Doki talked about how she was able to easily meet with Mumei IRL

How can I convince Mumei to completely delete all her socials and live an actual normie life?

>>101517874
yeah, man, gotta really make sure it's clear what the poster's opinion is. you're not a normalfag at all.

>>101518399
Tourist.

>>101510411
>collabs
Why are people so obsessed with collabs? I just want to watch my oshi.

>>101518129
yeah mumei is in vancouver with dokibird, either ubc or uvic, dunno what that random bullshitter is talking about. irys did go to hpu though so maybe they're just uninformed? and i think kronii is in calgary?

>>101506404
>most impacted
She triggered them all, at least on the EN side. The JP ones seem like pure coincidence, mostly because the type of people who like Gura the most are often lazy hasbeens themselves.

>>101518534
I wish I could...

>>101506404
So Gura is Aletta?

I remember Fauna and Kronii having the exact same ping during the 7DTD collab so I assumed they were both in the Seattle/Vancouver area but I don't know if either of them were just in a temporary location at the tkme

>>101518765
Meant for
>>101518585

>>101518765
moom's family lives in austin and fauna studied at austin and worked at a lab in austin while at school

>>101519051
Moom regularly visits her family so nice rrat.

>>101519113
what's the rrat? she studies in vancouver but she's originally from austin, which is where fauna studied

>>101519316
Fauna studied in St Louis though. She even talked on stream about their Tempur-Pedic mattresses

>>101519316
But she visits her family often so they're not in Austin anymore.

>>101518450
newfag.

>>101512018
couldn't she just watch whales in Japan?

>>101518534
that's where some members are funniest.

>>101515645
Nijicancer/Holoslop

>>101514301
why didn't they hide this?

>>101507352
No her model was just an eyecatch, most people became fans due to her millennial "DUDE, REFERENCES!!!" humor that is easily quirky and relatable.

>>101519671
Because it's bs and not true.

>>101518026
How so?

>>101507478
>>101506325
>Saba design looks just like "broken Gura" from Ash Again
FUUUUUUUUUUUU

>>101519914
It's pretty much just a colorswap

>>101507352
her model wasn't just popular with pedos, it was popular with normies.

>>101519787
>slop up corpo slop
>become a soulless husk of your former self
>fake relationships, fake comedy, fake opinions
>constant disagreement with management (egotistical groomers)
>be forced to do what management wants, not what you or the fans want
>eventually graduate or become a corpo zombie

>>101507352
>>101520076
You'd be far more popular with a bullet straight through your skull, POCD faggot

Penis

>>101520083
Oh noooo management doesn't let them talk about how they're getting banged every night or give their dogshit political opinions

>>101520221
Cover Management be like: "You're only allowed to talk about MY BlackRock endorsed political opinions!"

>>101520221
they still air their political opinions though, but only the ones that bootlick the wokescolds

>>101520388
dogshit political opinions*

>>101520221
roru
rumao

how many forced male collabs are we up to now, anon?

>>101520327
>BlackRock
Name the percentage.
>political opinions
Partially based point. Graduate all of Holostars. Unlike all other Corporations, Hololive are almost free of BS political stuff.

>>101520596
>he's now coping and moving goalposts
KEKAROO

>>101520327
>>101520388
>>101520456
Male collabs are less than in any other company with a male branch. Blackrock owns like 0.1%. Hololive members basically never talk about politics, period.

Nijisisters are getting real desperate.

>>101520596
You should be complaining to cover then, instead of complaining to us, lol

>>101520083
>become a soulless husk of your former self
Stopped reading right there. >>101516512 is still correct, you're brown and that upset you.

>>101520623
>>101520672
>coping this hard
I accept your concession. Common Hololive W.

>>101520653
we can smell your cope and seethe tears from here holocuck

>>101520697
That smell is the smoke from your favorite company burning itself to the ground.

>>101520677
>holobrown calling anybody brown
pottery

>>101520689
uh oh, holobrony melty!

>>101520758
Very cool melty.

>>101520677
>Nimi anti projecting
We know you're here brownfeet

>>101511963
Mumei schizo please, dont you have daily /who/ post to make.

>>101507768
She'll do her """dream job""" for a year or two then realize that doing what you love for a living makes you not love it anymore, then go back to streaming since it's much easier money with better working conditions. She's young, let her do something dumb and wait for her to fall back on the objectively correct live choice.

>>101520653
>Hololive members basically never talk about politics
Kek

What a delusional trog you are

>>101520960
>Hololive members
>posts chat
>meanwhile Nijis sperging about pride month & Vshitshows having meltys about abortion

>>101506915
>>101507073
Most of them are Holo antis pretending to care and picking at things to be petty. It's like the NDF that will attack talents long after they left even if they "keep their trap shut". The ones that are actual Holos are likely /jp/ only and "muh pure Japanese culture".

>>101518129
You realize that Canadians can cross the boarder and visit the US, right? In fact, they don't even need a passport. The US and Canada have something called an enhanced driver's license and it lets you travel to and from Canada/The US like a passport.

>>101521032
Lmao

Stay delusional. Even your HoloJPs are getting BLACKED.

>>101521108
NTA.
Minecraft were some of Gura's best streams. Her random interactions with other members and even some of her JP senpai were really fun. She will never have those moments again. As a chumbud, it's always bothered me how many subhuman n**ger faggots there are in /ggg/ that hate all the other members of hololive, and so it's not surpising that an anal fissure of a wretch like you isn't saddened at all by what we're losing. But most people are not like you. They actually like Gura and her friends and they enjoyed the random collabs and interactions and seeing Gura happy and socialize.
You don't speak for us. And you never will.

>>101521271
>she once read a book with an interracial relationship in it one time
>this is the equivalent of your talent fucking chimps
Fucking retard.

>>101521322
>even more goalpost moving
KEKAROOO

>>101520960
Where's kiara talking about politics in your pic, brainlet? What happened, moron?

>>101506018 (OP)
Who is the third nigger

>>101506473
I forgot she graduated

>>101521322
Tbf identity politics is still politics regardless

>>101521383
She'll be back, surely

>>101521345
>>101521387
How is that goalpost moving? You said that holoJP is getting blacked. But you posted a pic of a holo saying she once read a fictional novel.
If thry play detroit become human, where essentially every straight relationship in the game is a black man and a white woman because the French are disgusting cucks, does that mean she's been blacked? Are you fucking stupid?

in a year HoloEN fans will likely be fighting over spots at Madison Square Garden to see the girls shine in a legendary venue and fulfil their drams as creatives
meanwhile Saba fans will be jerking off over her getting 40k CCV while reacting to Asmongold's takes on why nuking Iran was based and justified and talk about Hololive's imminent death caused by sellout fees

>>101521564
Japanese idol culture is naturally uplifting and fosters growth and belief in the value of each person, while US streaming culture among many (but not all) indie vtubers is just mental illness, rants, and debasement.

>>101521643
the idea behind idol culture is a fairytale and it's used to push a shit ton of commercial garbage and trash merch, but as long as both girls and fans believe in it, it makes them more human than cynically chasing the lowest common denominator, that I can agree with you on

>>101521134
All that doesn't change the YouTube stuff. And sure anyone can visit any other country but people don't do that often, it's easier to meet up with people who are closer to you

>Not hololive

yeah no one cares

>>101521467
>the French are disgusting cucks
David Cage having an unironic cuck fetish that he’s been shoehorning into all of his games since 1999 is funny though

>>101519437
nah she has said where it is, which is also why her yt is in canadian

how are the other holo girls feeling about this? Do they pity the grifter train going on outside?

>>101520147
you do realize those two posts disagree with each other, right, retard?

>>101523008
they just want those who left to be happy and safe

>>101523013
Nigga no one cares

>>101523378
Say nigger you coward

>>101523439
nigger you coward, ok now what?

>>101523452
Thank you for your cooperation .

>>101506064
Just wait until the inevitable collab of Saba with Kson

>>101507290
Yagoo only fucks marine, fubuki, miko and suisei

>>101522226
they'd be different whales, but, still.

>>101511963
>had nothing to do with management
>She just specifically said it was management because uhh

>>101523487
Why doesn't Kson do meme reviews anymore?

>>101506018 (OP)
GriftersEN

>>101520653
>>101520729
Blackrock is such a Phasekek talking point tho.

>>101506018 (OP)
They are happy they get to leach off Gura again.

>>101506018 (OP)
>The smart ones that didn't waste their time and money on debt trap holo projects and were able to break free rich and happy

>>101524746
I still don't fully understand what this "disagreement with management" they so fervently hold to is. If it's too much travel I can understand.

>>101506404
Chloe was not friends with Gura

>>101524893
People keep trying to say it's about travel but only Fauna had an issue with travel. None of the other girls even hinted at having issues with travel and Mumei and Ame were even verifiably in Japan recently. Don't know about Gura because no one knows where she's been.

>>101518022
Her design is just her checking off every box for the type of anime girl she wants to fuck.
>Loli
>Blonde
>Twin Tails
>Frilly Dress
>Yeah throw in some cat ears too while you're at it that's cute
>And then some nods to Gura like a borderline identical tail and a side pigtail as a cherry on top

>>101509758
As of today, there is no proof. The user simply disappeared

>>101524624
Nah
It's always numberfags holofags who talks about them

>>101506431
Not like she can't afford to replace it

>>101509758
There's a thing called an NDA you know ?

>>101508190
>I hate Cover so much I can't believe it takes so long for them to get my projects through this is awful I can't take this anymore
>It doesn't matter than I barely do anything and I just sit on my ass collecting my paycheck and merch sales
>I have the biggest numbers so that means Cover should devote as many resources as possible to me. Me! My projects! Make my projects happen, not theirs!
>The other people are regularly streaming...? I don't care! I have the biggest numbers! I deserve the most support!
>I'm getting what I deserve...? I don't... I can't... nngh... mmmgh! I... aaah! TEAR IT DOWN! BURN IT DOOOOOWN!

>>101524624
>>101525868
They probably have some kind of list in their shitty holoanti discord. Number two would be talk about investments and compare it to Niji.

>>101528070
Phasecuck, you are embarassing.

>>101524893
Aqua:
Probably just didn't want to feel forced to do a bunch of sponsorships. She was one of the people who largely enjoyed being in Hololive for streaming with song and dance stuff on the side.
Chloe:
Most likely similar stuff as Aqua and the mandatory rehearsals were clearly fucking with her throat. People like to bring up the fact that she went right back to streaming but there's a huge difference between having total freedom to stream when you want as long as you want and doing stream shit on top of corporate obligations.
Shion:
Her family is a very stereotypical Asian family and they got in her head.
Fauna:
Hated leaving her pets behind especially since one of them had deteriorating health and even died somewhat soon after she graduated. Also very strong evidence that she had a falling out with Kronii(communication stopped almost entirely and she kicked Kronii out of the house.)
Mumei:
I honestly think her "disagreements with management" was just her way of backing up Gura and Fauna while she was on her way out. She never gave much indication that things were bad and if it wasn't for her throat getting ruined she likely would have stuck around. She made it pretty clear that she did not want to leave.
Gura:
It's honestly kind of hard to say because something definitely happened that completely soured her mood in 2022 but it's hard to have any sympathy for her because even her genmates(Kiara and Mori mostly, Ina more passively) were publicly vocal about the fact that it was often times very difficult to get a hold of Gura and she would ghost everyone - genmates and management included - for weeks at a time. I think the simplest explanation is that her laziness won over in the end and she lost the spark needed to stay corporate. If you're not willing to put in a high amount of effort you aren't getting shit in return from staff and that's not something Gura can sustain for a long period of time.

>>101528416
>her reason for quitting doesn't actually count
>she was lying
>it's ACTUALLY (headcanon)

>>101528468
>retard
I'm not sure why you felt the need to embarrass yourself like that. Maybe go back and watch some streams so you can be in the loop.

>>101528517
you're coping lad

>it's obvious she didn't want to leave
lad she was so turned off by hololive she quit vtubing for a good

>>101528605
She quit because of her voice. If it wasn't for that she likely would have stuck around for another year or two. Just like everyone else in Myth/Council she did not join with the intent of making that her life from then on. It was a temporary thing from the beginning. She wished it could have gone on longer but it was a suitable time to call it quits because she finished her education at roughly the same point.

>>101523919
>management push her to complete her degree and dream instead of focusing streaming (talked on stream)
>it was management fault
Roru

>>101528703
>"hello I'm nanashi mumei, I'm graduating from hololive cause of internal misalignments with the company"
>"hello I'm anon-chama, no mumei you're wrong you're quitting hololive cause of your chronic cough"

>>101528605
Wouldn't that be proof that it wasn't mainly because of Hololive? If it was Hololive's doing then she would continue vtubing outside of Hololive like Gura and Fauna.

>>101528808
>fallacy
Concession accepted.

>>101528808
Both of your statements are wrong though? She clearly mentioned both. It's not an either or thing.

>>101528703
>>101528846
Somebody have her last membership stream downloaded?

>>101528869
Thank you for admitting you're a tourist who only brings her up for dramafagging.

>>101506549
It actually does look ugly

>>101528935
No? She literally said in the stream her cough wasn't a bug deal and she shit talked management a lot.

>>101528827
she was willing to stay in hololive with her chronic cough but "misalignments" convinced her to decide to graduate. and now she's more or less done with vtubing, maybe we'll see a png shachi in the future. but if there were never misalignments she would still be a vtuber

and mumei's graduation went on to stress the reason she left was cause misalignments

because of this I'm weighing her decision to leave on whatever went wrong with clover

in mumei's final weeks she was a regular streamer doing all sort of collabs. if things were sorted out with hololive she would've happily continued streaming her former hours

>>101528854
>>101529094

>>101529094
We won't even get a png. She won't pull a Sana. She's done forever.

>>101529084
>No? She literally said in the stream her cough wasn't a bug deal and she shit talked management a lot.
That is the opposite of what she did. She said she wasn't dying but that doesn't mean the cough wasn't a big deal because she emphasized the effect it had.
She barely mentioned anything about management at all, half of EN has "shit talked" management way more than she did.

>>101529094
>contradicting himself
You're done. Just stop. Mumei barely said anything about being unhappy with Hololive through the entirety of her career even toward the end. I'm pretty sure there are multiple Kiara streams where she bitches and talks shit about management and the state of affairs in Hololive far more than Mumei ever did throughout all streams combined. You're desperately trying to skew the few words she did say on the subject.

Moom will be back.

>>101529453
You're annoying, autismposter.

>>101529545
Okay, but Moom will be back.

>>101506018 (OP)
It seems like they really planned to leave the company together.

>>101529576
No, it's not okay.

>>101529746
Whether it is or isn't, Moom will be back.

>>101529962
Well, it isn't.

>>101530434
That's fine, because Moom will be back.

>>101528416
Only vt could make such a long essay that's already been disproven by the talents themselves

>>101530625
>disproven
Except it hasn't.

>>101530557
But it's not fine though.

>>101530820
Aw well, Moom will be back amyway.

>>101530721
aqua is still spamming merch nonstop, Chloe just needed a surgery, shion has been talking about mental issues for years, mumei complained a ton in 24 about how not a phase went, gura remains to be seen

>>101530980
Complained about a song damn how could she...I've heard Mori go on complete meltdowns about how some of her songs or MVs are not progressing. Some of you don't watch most of the girls and it shows because you're trying to make mountains out of molehills. All of them complain when stuff goes wrong, it's very common. The only people who don't complain are the people with zero projects and thus nothing to complain about.

>>101531113
>it's okay because others deal with it
don't choke on it

>>101518450
>>101519407
>DISCOURSE

>>101531149
No, I'm just saying it's normal so trying to paint Mumei as some management hater because she did what every other girl did makes no sense.
Especially when you have an actual example of people who very obviously hated management in comparison

>>101531189
So we went from she didnt do it to other girls did it worse and stayed, what's next? And you sure are focusing on one girl

>>101530874
>amyway
BAHAHAHAHAHA TYPO DETECTED YOU LOSE

>>101531336
Again, you misunderstand. I'm saying that complaining about how a song went means pretty much nothing. It proves or disproves nothing given how many of the girls who are management favorites like Mori and FWMC have also done it. That's why it made no sense to bring up in that list and it's why I called that part out.

>>101531380
That's humiliating, at least Moom will be back though.

>>101531449
>>101531149

>>101506915
they literally didn't do this in hololive
most of them just used twitter to spam announcements and retweet art