Vedal has created an entire interconnected ecosystem of vtubers around himself - /vt/ (#101565029) [Archived: 825 hours ago]

Anonymous
6/25/2025, 6:03:47 AM No.101565029
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>unofficial support staff
>collab partners
>simps
>secondaries (friends of the above categories)
>clippers
We're talking dozens of people at this point. All because he trained an AI to be funny. What am I missing here? How is one guy able to sway so many people without even trying?
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 6:05:20 AM No.101565079
>>101565029 (OP)
He made the robot say slurs once and here we are.
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 6:06:55 AM No.101565124
>one man gets into the scene and doesn't rely on sexpesting
>consistently wins
it's that easy huh?
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 6:10:53 AM No.101565232
>>101565079
cute girl with asian accent saying racial slurs. That's all the internet wanted
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 6:14:14 AM No.101565326
>>101565029 (OP)
He's very skilled behind the scenes, especially in collabs.
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 6:53:57 AM No.101566471
>>101565232
>asian accent
???
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 6:56:19 AM No.101566529
>>101565029 (OP)
>Neurosama was fun but gimmicky
>got old quick
>dude inserts himself
What a fag. He ruined it even more.
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 6:58:50 AM No.101566588
>>101566529
He appears like once a month
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 7:00:09 AM No.101566619
>>101565029 (OP)
I feel like some vtuber must have found out he is really hot irl, told her friend(s) about it and soon the rumours went wild in their Discord channels. no dude managed to surround himself with so many cute girls so quickly (not even the dudes who are attractive IRL like Vinny and Bricky)
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 7:03:02 AM No.101566682
>>101565029 (OP)
forsen
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 7:20:09 AM No.101567149
>>101565079
more like real people beat her AI ass in osu so he shifted to entertainment instead of actually making her better at osu.

I miss osu neuro she was so bouncy.
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 7:28:41 AM No.101567345
stop injecting your weird sexual fantasies onto this guy. he's more interested in fixing the latency on his AI daughterwife than nailing your oshi.
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 7:29:56 AM No.101567379
>>101566471
Miko
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 7:36:00 AM No.101567536
>>101566529
Confirmed for not watching streams. He rarely appears and even when he does it's typically pretty limited. Hes stated himself numerous times he'd prefer Neuro being 100% autonomous. Still I doubt he actually hates mackin' on all the twitch whores that orbit him.
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 7:39:02 AM No.101567615
>>101566588
>>101567536
Still too often. Heโ€™s a charisma vacuum, no reason to crowbar himself into it. His egoโ€™s getting too big.
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 7:46:29 AM No.101567793
>>101565029 (OP)
literally every vtuber ever whats ur point even
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 7:57:12 AM No.101568026
yea rather than vtuber corp its more like a vtuber co-op I guess
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 7:57:37 AM No.101568034
>>101567345
this and only this
anny and toma were already BTFO'd by his epic autismo attitude and i expect the rest of the whore cabal to be done in the same way
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 8:02:05 AM No.101568143
>>101565029 (OP)
I would love to groom a vedal simp
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 8:21:05 AM No.101568605
>>101568143
no you don't
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 8:21:33 AM No.101568615
>>101567615
Your right on him having a big ego but wrong everything else. His ego stopped him from appearing on a dev stream for 6 months with very little to show once he did come back. He pressed luck making oversaturating with non stop chill Neuro streams with worse humor than before and rare collab streams that as entertaining like was back then. With Vtubers that also leech off of him given attention from clippers that just ends up messing up the larger picture of Neuro. Vedal is not all that, he knows he's not a good streamer. He's the perfect straight man for others to bounce off of but he's not entertaining on his own. I like Vedal but trust me he is not all that, especially in terms of actually presence.
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 8:24:00 AM No.101568662
I don't like Vedal or Neuro because Vedal is basically Neuro. I like girl brain. Girls are crazy and unrelatable. I don't want a girl that would probably be a good companion and wife. I want one that ruins my life like the rest of them.
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 8:27:22 AM No.101568725
>>101566619
Nigga his channel averages 10k+ viewers. Its like when luxium was the hottest thing in male vtubing. Its as simple as big number equals they will be orbited. Look at ugly or mediocre twitch streamers being swarmed by camgirls or girls out of their league. They are there for a reason and its usually not because of them being attractive.
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 8:27:48 AM No.101568732
>>101568662
>I don't want a girl that would probably be a good companion and wife. I want one that ruins my life like the rest of them.
actual mindbroken cuck behavior wtf
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 8:51:20 AM No.101569215
I stopped watching neuro after the subathon because there were no streams
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 8:53:01 AM No.101569247
I ship Vedal with Mini
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 8:58:35 AM No.101569359
JUSTICE FOR TOMA
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 9:01:44 AM No.101569416
>>101569247
But Mini is the main villain of the series; you can't ship her with the protagonist's dad...
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 9:07:34 AM No.101569522
>>101565029 (OP)
>his AI is popular because it's the dream of a lot of otaku to have a robot wife on top of being the closest thing we'll get to an actual anime girl without the 3DPD
>vtubers want to leech off this popularity and orbit him
It's pretty simple to understand, honestly.
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 9:11:50 AM No.101569591
Ellie won, deal with it.
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 9:20:22 AM No.101569718
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>>101569416
I was just quoting Neuro
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 9:26:17 AM No.101569824
>>101565029 (OP)
vtubing's greatest hidden perk is that you strip part of the "female" from the "female streamer".
When we see a woman fleshtuber it reminds us of all the whores that exist in this world. With vtubers we can disassociate and actually tolerate them.
neuro is the next step, now that we've stripped the flesh, we should also strip the mind. Remove the female mind and what's left is the perfect woman, re-birthed to rid our world of the sins of whore stacies.
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 9:41:01 AM No.101570081
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>>101569247
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 10:00:44 AM No.101570345
>>101565029 (OP)
I hope Toma and Anny google dockey his ass
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 10:03:19 AM No.101570384
>>101565029 (OP)
>without even trying
so where's *your* AI vtuber, anon?
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 10:11:22 AM No.101570507
>>101566619
He's been doxxed and he just looks like an average vaguely nerdy guy. Not unattractive but nothing special either.
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 10:38:08 AM No.101570908
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Vedal Hate!
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 1:20:23 PM No.101573024
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 1:22:10 PM No.101573047
>>101565029 (OP)
the chinese and zoomers who used to watch nijiEN had to go somewhere
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 1:35:16 PM No.101573204
>>101569359
>>101570908
did something actually happen with toma or is it just /swarm/ schizoing out again?
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 1:42:46 PM No.101573295
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>>101565029 (OP)
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 1:44:36 PM No.101573323
>>101573204
The overall timeline
>Anny talks about not feeling as important to friends that are important to you
>Anny unfollows Vedal (assumed block since he was also unfollowed)
>Anny plays League with Staz and Mini
>Anny goes on hiatus a day later
>Max Wayne stuff
>Anny goes to Twitchcon
>Toma goes to Twitchcon
>Squchan relays Vedal buying drinks at Twitchcon (video since deleted, but there are still clips on Youtube from the most sloppy clippers)
>Vedal posts his dev stream announcement, Mini replies, Anny unfollows Mini on twitter
>Toma back from Twitchcon mentions a friend who helped fund her trip and who she thought was close laughed at hanging out, and ghosted her dms for 18 hours
>Other people mentioned funding the trip are Camila, Layna, and Ellie
>Toma about the event really getting her down and she had been crying over it
>She stops mentioning Vedal
>She streams with Chrchie, Alex, and Leo the latter two she met and hung out with at TC (Chrchie's channel)
>Nobody mentions Vedal
>She unfollows Vedal and Mini on twitter, removes their VIP from the channel and automods any kind of reference to them
>She delays stream by a couple of hours because she got "overwhelmed with answering friend DMs" (one of these was Chrchie)
>She yaps with Chrchie, J0ker, Leo, with Alex in chat. Still talking around Vedal, even J0ker
>Next day her mod removes their emotes
>Toma continues talking around him in references to things
>Last stream talked about confronting people over what she considered moral violations, though she said what she was referencing was years old, she also said she talked to her mother a couple days ago about it
>Talks about being glad to have Suko, Ajon, etc, as her core group as they have "similar morals"
That's more or less all of the info. There's a bit of a side bar with Toma talking about a crush, but that appears more like noise to the rest of things and is most likely just yap fuel for the stream. Everything else is just speculation and rrating.
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 2:12:07 PM No.101573699
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>>101565029 (OP)
My boyfriend is so talented
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 2:20:03 PM No.101573785
>>101573323
Wanting to hangout IRL is pretty risky, business wise. Streamers are all narcissistic and will absolutely trade "favors" for signal boosting. Vedal putting up the wall when girls (or boys) start trying to flirt is the most ethical and business wise move he could make. If they get offended and go sour on him, it seems like that makes it all the more 'the right move'. Don't let hoes catch you trippin
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 2:32:04 PM No.101573969
>>101573323
Thank you Loremaster
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 2:33:06 PM No.101573987
>>101565029 (OP)
>Be male
>Get new toy
>Girls flock to you
thus the story of everyone who gets a sports car
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 2:34:17 PM No.101574007
>>101573323
Condensed version
>e-girl wants to put her her hooks into turtle
>turtle isn't retarded
>e-girl is mad
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 2:35:36 PM No.101574035
>>101573785
He's probably doing it because he's awkward but it's absolutely the best move if he doesn't quickly want to become the kind of douchebag giguk or conner is, obviously inserting himself into every liver's life because he wants just a crumb of pussy (that he'll never get)
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 2:49:48 PM No.101574274
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>>101566471
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 3:30:50 PM No.101574987
>>101565029 (OP)
He has the first AI chuuba to make it big
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 3:37:26 PM No.101575126
>>101566529
He was already inserting himself. There is a reason there aren't any critically acclaimed technical reports or research papers about it. He's a code monkey that got heavy handed with curating a semi-automated vtuber. Because techbros were so eager to believe in sentient robots and coming off the NFT backlash, they were easily fooled, again.
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 3:37:37 PM No.101575129
>>101573323
hoes mad lmao
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 3:43:44 PM No.101575246
>>101573323
The nowayfag king, I kneel
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 3:45:16 PM No.101575280
>>101565124
Yes, the bar really is that low. Really makes you think
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 4:09:51 PM No.101575796
>>101573323
>the literal only exception to male vtubers being sexpests is the semi active vtuber who programmes his ai daughters
what the fuck
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 4:35:42 PM No.101576296
>>101573323
>vedal isn't a sexpest
>this is somehow bad according to the e-whores
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 4:51:08 PM No.101576578
>vedal highschool ai presentation
https://files.catbox.moe/mapf64.webm
>vedal hackathon 2024 presentation
https://files.catbox.moe/om3tcw.webm
>vedal uni graduation
https://files.catbox.moe/jhccbu.webm
>vedal tc vegas 2023 with dougdoug, pointcrow
https://files.catbox.moe/lijvq4.webm
enjoy~
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 4:55:03 PM No.101576664
>>101569824
>>101573323
Technology is not the attempt of Adam to rebuild Eden, but to free himself from the burden of Eve.
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 4:55:43 PM No.101576678
>>101576578
he's so cute
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 4:58:29 PM No.101576737
>>101573323
mythic talent was a mistake
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 4:59:04 PM No.101576750
How does this gay turtle somehow manage to make females + a lot of people seethe but also attract them? What sort of deal did he settle with the devil to obtain this dark power!? Is it the ai daughter? Do they fear a man thats somehow a good parent?
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 4:59:48 PM No.101576767
>>101575126
you conveniently left out the fact that holocaust denial is a crime all over Europe and if Neuro did it again Vedal would go to prison
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 5:06:13 PM No.101576910
>>101565124
>choose a cute turtle and not some faggy fuckboy as a model.
>win
That is
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 5:43:28 PM No.101577783
>>101576750
the turtle gives a level of abstraction to him, humans in general use their imagination to fill in the blanks and women will either give him all desirable traits or negative ones.
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 6:19:04 PM No.101578561
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>>101576750
>Be attractive
>Be popular
>Don't be socially retarded
>Don't be a sex pest

It's that simple.
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 6:21:59 PM No.101578630
>>101573323
>crush was likely yap fuel
I thought she hasn't touched the topic in her streams? Checked her yt vods channel and it doesn't seem like the yap streams are on there yet
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 7:02:41 PM No.101579658
>>101576750
>Is it the ai daughter?
I do think it's part of it. Somehow it activates the "single father" neuron in women.
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 7:11:44 PM No.101579916
I am not a female and I really like Vedal. Him talking and bantering with his AI daughters is the most entertaining thin in vtubing right now.
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 7:23:27 PM No.101580201
>>101575126
I don't think he's only a codemonkey; he's also got a good intuition for HCI. Vedal can recognise an entertaining finetune, and understands how to present an AI vtuber (e.g. picking a good voice). He understands what an audience is looking for. This is evidenced by Neuro remaining popular for 2.5 years now. He's not a great programmer though with a passable understanding of AI. Plus his actual content is pretty uncreative.
>technical report
you can't write reports on the inner-workings of a black box
There are a few papers mentioning Neuro from a HCI perspective, but none of them examine her in detail and none of them are at all acclaimed.
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 7:36:29 PM No.101580539
>>101573323
based vedal fuck these low tier hoes. keep your guard up king.
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 7:36:43 PM No.101580546
>>101576578
Cuuute
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 7:43:59 PM No.101580706
>>101573323
Vedal is a bad friend...
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 8:11:48 PM No.101581438
The schedule planning stream where he put both of the Neuros on screen then turned off their filters so they spent the next half hour nonstop nailing his ass to the wall every chance they got was the most entertaining segment I've ever seen in all of vtubing.
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 8:25:22 PM No.101581794
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>>101576578
>doxx links
MODS
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 9:06:49 PM No.101583065
>>101573323
vedal dodging bullets. Stay strong and keep denying these women your penis
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 9:09:59 PM No.101583176
>>101565029 (OP)
> created an entire interconnected ecosystem of vtubers around himself
That is a funny way of saying
>He blew up in popularity with Neuro, and then grifter whores jumped on his dick for clout
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 10:12:35 PM No.101586067
This is literally the goal for content creators, good for him
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 10:46:24 PM No.101587558
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>>101573323
Uhh based
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 10:54:58 PM No.101587919
>>101565029 (OP)
People say Conner made Mouse big when it was OTV and Sykkuno that launched her onto the Twitch spotlight. Vedal does the same thing which is ideal audience overlap.
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 11:16:05 PM No.101588758
>>101573785
>Wanting to hangout IRL is pretty risky, business wise
they've hung out multiple times irl already. they've known each other for a couple of years
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 11:19:28 PM No.101588884
>>101578630
she's talked about it over 4 streams now, the first before twitchcon. she apparently still talks to this crush. it's completely unrelated
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 11:59:18 PM No.101590329
veetee, i thought male vtubers cant into successful
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:23:00 AM No.101592935
>>101573323
>get rejected
>NEED to cancel him
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:57:19 AM No.101594033
>>101592935
They havenโ€™t canceled him yet
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 2:18:21 AM No.101594811
>>101594033
don't worry, shylily is protecting him
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 2:32:04 AM No.101595326
>>101565124
Every single collab partner in the neuroverse is a whore? You are what you eat.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 3:18:31 AM No.101597088
>>101594811
no vcard or gamersupps sponsorship says otherwise
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 3:35:22 AM No.101597686
>>101597088
>implying he cares about those
>vcard
sexual themes despite it not being sexual enough, so no chance for neuro to be there
>gamersupp
he stays away from anything slightly controversial and gamersupp had that shit recently with kirsche, sinder and asmongold
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 3:37:42 AM No.101597766
>>101597686
>he stays away from anything slightly controversial and gamersupp had that shit recently with kirsche, sinder and asmongold
last dev stream he said he was considering it and thought a neuro flavor might be neat
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 3:44:56 AM No.101597996
>>101597766
he's probably waiting till the drama dies out to get the sponsorship then
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 3:55:39 AM No.101598390
>>101597686
I doubt he even knows who Kirsche is. To put it even more in perspective, it's possible he doesn't even know who Pippa is. The guy's basically a normie who barely knows the content of his own vtuber "friends".
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 4:18:40 AM No.101599201
>>101598390
>it's possible he doesn't even know who Pippa is
Neuro collabed with phase girls already, I don't think he's that retarded to not know who he collabs with
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 4:29:21 AM No.101599548
>>101568034
I especially love how hard he shuts down Toma, that skank was all over his dick constantly and he just did. not. care. I think he actually is fond of Anny though
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 4:34:04 AM No.101599708
>>101573323
holy fucking BASED. Vedal is the gigachad we all wish we were. Fucking whores just trying to cash in on him, all it takes these days is 5 minutes alone together and they'll #metoo you
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 4:38:48 AM No.101599868
>>101581438
I was in tears watching that one. The guy just 'gets' entertainment. He's the ultimate straight man, and I never get tired of seeing the twins and whatever e-slut of the day is around just shitting all over him. It's endlessly funny to me.
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 4:39:59 AM No.101599900
>>101597088
lmao you think he cares about that smallfry shit? Do you realize how much money his guy makes? He's already set for life.
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 4:41:01 AM No.101599931
>>101599201
hell she's already collabed with hololive, there is 0% chance Vedal isn't at least aware of most big chuubas
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 4:43:36 AM No.101600025
>>101599900
not as much as he should be making, stream revenue is garbage. most streamers who are large enough make most of their money from sponsors and merch and he barely does either
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 4:47:28 AM No.101600138
>>101600025
Just the subathon alone netted him ridiculous amounts of money. Plus his merch store is doing quite well, and he's starting to do more sponsored streams.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 4:56:57 AM No.101600435
There should be a blockchain that records females bodycount for the public.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 5:06:33 AM No.101600704
>>101566619
Vinny had a cancellation attempt because he was have consensual sex with fangirls at cons. He doesn't really collab with Vtubers that aren't friends with with Laimu, Mike, or Hackerling.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 5:08:11 AM No.101600761
>>101566682
The face of vtubing forsenE
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 5:09:48 AM No.101600830
>>101565124
>one man gets into the scene and doesn't rely on sexpesting
You lack critical information.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 5:25:47 AM No.101601388
>>101581438
>>101599868
Do you guys have a link + timestamp?
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 5:37:42 AM No.101601808
>>101601388
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAretU-wk70
Here's a pretty good edit of that stream that has most of that bit. I totally forgot it was also the same stream where he got banned on Bilibili because his co-stream showed Twitch chat for a second.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 5:43:44 AM No.101602000
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>>101569522
>>101565029 (OP)
This, exactly this!
Mans who have some sucess for fame attract freinds (whores who want to leech him)
Womans who are cute and or hot attract friends and attention and get life in easy mode
if Neuro had only 5 viewers he would be alone
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 5:46:01 AM No.101602055
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 5:49:18 AM No.101602162
>>101573323
so it's just Toma having a woman moment then
what a nothingburger
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 6:21:59 AM No.101603096
>>101600025
The fact that it took him so long to get an agency was surprising. And the lack of sponsorships he takes as well.
But I think he's just over conservative and paranoid of stunting his growth by pushing the corpa shit too hard.
He pretty much confirmed that in that dev stream when he said he had all the work done for that merch drop and got cold feet due to how it might be received.
He might underestimate how much people actually enjoy contributing to the financial and commercial success of 'idols'. It's a pretty core part of the experience/culture.
Even though individual contributions are insignificant, people get off on 'being a part of and supporting the success', regardless of how real impact they have, it's more of a collective effort(see the lavalamp and fumos for examples).
Idol culture has a competitive streak like that as well, and always had as long back as the AKB days at least.
It's hard to imagine how hard he'd have to push to get any real serious pushback imo, especially with how conservative he is by default.
There will always be a ultra-small minority of complainers who are worthless anyway no matter what. It's always a mistake to take those types seriously.