I think the vtuber bubble is popping

>>101605075 (OP)
You could say the condom money is slipping

The apocalypse is right around the corner no one cares about vchuubas

>>101605075 (OP)

It popped like a year ago anon.

Any corpo/indie worth keeping will be filtered out with the filler.

the humanity bubble is poping finally humanity will die of and the earth will recover from the infestation

>>101605075 (OP)

>>101605075 (OP)
>I think
I doubt that, OP.

>>101605194
I can't wait.

>>101605075 (OP)
The vtuber bobble isn't popping, it's just your oshi is not as good as other vtubers

>>101605075 (OP)
Comiket has les vtuber presence
Offkai had little to no announcements compared to the past events
AX has no vtuber booths whatsoever

It won't pop but the gold rush is over, slowly over time more and more vtubers will quit. Companies and big hitters will keep coming and going, but it's gonna be more niche.

>>101605075 (OP)
finally, fuck all those whores and grifters.

>>101605075 (OP)
Basically it's now impossible to grow to stardom level status or make a living as an indie without getting into a corpo or becoming extremely lucky and thats kind of funny more 0 views are cropping up and giving up in a week or less now than ever before

>>101605075 (OP)
didn't mori say she wanted to "burst the bubble" or something? I think she used that term incorrectly

>>101605075 (OP)
people have been saying this since 2018 if you can believe it!

>>101605075 (OP)
wha's poppin', Jimbo?

>>101605075 (OP)
2020 was a bubble. It popped a long time ago, touristchama.

thankfully I'm safe in my garden

>>101607126
Seemed to me like Offkai was bigger than ever before and had more eyes aimed at it

LOOK OUT THE WINDOW
THERE'S A SKYFOOGLE

>>101607126
what the fuck kinda announcements do you need from a vt*ber convention

>>101605075 (OP)
The magic is gone for me. There have been way too many yabs and I'm generally suspicious of any streamer now, vtuber or not.

>>101610579
All the eyes on it only saw news about how smelly it was
Maybe the bubble wouldn’t be popping if vtuber fans could stop making a bad impression on everyone

>>101607222
That's what a bubble popping means, anon. The internet was a bubble once before it popped, that doesn't mean the internet went away it just meant that the days of easy investor money for every startup with ".com" in it's name was permanently over.

When the bubble pops what is left behind is a stable industry that's no longer driven by hype. Which is where I would say we are now. Vtubing will stick around forever but no one really cares that much anymore. It's not easy money, it's not hip, it's just a thing that exists.

>>101605075 (OP)
Finally. The best years of vtubing is behind us, it died after 2022. Maybe there will be some sort of rebirth or renaissance in a couple of years, but right now, it's in the graveyard. Corpos are dying, big talents are leaving, and indies are eating each other. As much as people like to think that "indies are the future", the industry as we kew it can't survive without the corporations, the only direction vtubing can go in is just the standard youtube/content creator/streamer shit, but with fancier and more expensive avatars. I saw this coming from the start.

>>101611558
You're right but I kind of wish it got big like Pokemon/Mario etc. Vtubing is a cool concept. It felt like "adventure mode" with a semi coherent storyline for a while there. Especially the first year with Myth. I remember Kiara playing with Moona and I thought they were going to do a protagonist/Antagonist thing as a play but it turned out people got butthurt over it. Tis a silly hobby.

I think we're experiencing American cultural collapse, not specifically vtuber bubble pop. Maybe this will mean more EU vtubers over the next 5 years?

>>101605075 (OP)
No, Gura is just deflated because of her graduation. She's been patched and is currently in the process of being inflated.

I think the overabundance of low effort content is getting to people, 90% of vtubers are exactly the same and don't strive to build upon what's already been done. On top of that, how do you make it as an indie when all the top indies right now are ex-corpos? Sad to see.

>>101611943
Yeah brother, free palestine

>>101605075 (OP)
it has been popping in the west.

>>101611943
>American cultural collapse
I agree
>EU vtubers over the next 5 years
lmao

>>101605290
The equivalent of clueless a boomer making a movie about years old dead meme like skibiddy toilet thinking they're hip

>>101605075 (OP)
Both corpo and indie scene have been growing bigger than ever so unless you only care about, idk, VShojo or something, VTuber bubble is holding well

>>101605194
lumping humanity together as a single entity is what got us into this mess

>>101611277
Same.
>Large corpo vtubers have audiences so large that everything can feel distant.
>Small corpos are revolving doors.
>Many indies stream sporadically at best and lack leashes to keep their worst traits in check.

The scene doesn't feel like it used to.

>>101616692
numbers are bigger true, but nobody feels like a big deal any more.

>>101605075 (OP)
still not watching hollywood slop

The meta has felt like it has changed.
It used to be "you have 2000+ viewers and a playbutton you made it" now it's "yeah but are you doing 3D concerts? If you're not doing 3D concerts, what are you even doing with your life do you even matter?"

>>101605075 (OP)
Popping? It popped as soon as covid ended

>>101611414
The smell thing was spread on twitter by people who didn't even go
Look for accounts of people actually there and they literally all say it wasn't that bad
You'd walk by a fatass slob every now and then who smelled like sweat and depression, but most people were fine

>>101621377
So just find an indie that likes to stream and isn't completely insane
They exist

It got big because of lockdown. It's been steadily in decline because of big industry yabs

>>101621417
How do you define "a big deal", though?

>>101622791
Big corpos have been in decline because of big corpo yabs
Indies have been growing

>>101605075 (OP)
The corpo vtuber bubble is popping. Mostly because it's cheaper than ever to become successful as an indie the problem is that it's an evergrowing market so sticking out from the crowd is difficult. You don't have the "well Hololive chose them so they must be good" perk. You gotta go out there and look for it.

>>101622969
>The corpo vtuber bubble is popping
You say this, then we have long time indies leaving that scene so they can go corpo.

I think the indie scene is completely oversatured. The ex corpo girls are coming to the indie scene and dominating it. the top 1% getting all the viewership, money, sponsors. Basically you don't matter unless you are Filian, ex-holo, Mint/Doki, vedal, or in the longtime Twitch whore group.

>>101623116
>I only watch corpos and ex-corpos so they are the only ones who are successful

>>101623227
what good is being an indie twitch "4view" when you get nothing to show for it but the same gamersups sponsorship everybody gets and the same twitch bounty board stuff everybody does. you can join mythic with everybody else and feel like somebody, when in reality you aren't really doing anything with this alleged platform you think you have

>>101623361
Kek, thanks for confirming

>>101623116
It's because girls at that level will benefit from it, and it's a slower grind to do it themselves. The corpos aren't managed well so they can get corpo clout, and so long as it isn't a very long contract be fine. If they can exit within a year it will be okay. 2 and they burn out, hate their life, will be drained of their resources, and will not have a the same boost as the girls leaving now based on how quickly the crash is happening.

They just need to stop making horrible decisions and stop having women moments all the time.

>>101623361
being a low 4view indie is not impressive anymore when the ex corpo Gods crashed the scene and raised the bar to high 4view/low 5view.

>>101623116
mid tier indies (who tend to hover in low 3view territory) go corpo because they've hit a plateau of growth. A 4view could care less because they make more as an indie than they would as a corpo once you add all the expenses that go into the company and management.

>>101614434
gura cumflation

>>101605075 (OP)
The bubble popped a long time ago, and companies held on and invested more to make up for it, but now they're burning out from mismanagement. Only large companies could exist for a while living off their stored fat.

>>101605075 (OP)
At this point the market for vtubers has already decided to follow a certain amount of talents and don't follow any more. There's no real bubble, there never was. The core audience who is willing to spend money on you is currently set.

>>101607126
You know that half of the east halls are closed, right? Everybody lost a lot of doujin circles on Comiket this year.

>>101610579
Offkai is always shit

>>101605075 (OP)
Regarding at least Hololive Cover was riding on an EN high of the perfect mix of power level lore, CGDCT and female streamer buff with Myth, Council, and Advent. These things caused the blow up of fan interaction/creativity that regular indies don’t have. With most of the first two generations leaving it left a unironic power gap and fans are realizing Hololive isn’t as enduring as other media. The interconnected kayfabe universe played a huge role in what separated Hololive from indies and now that the buff is dying so is interest.

>>101610689
I appreciate the reference anon

>>101631063
>Cover was riding on an EN high of the perfect mix of power level lore, CGDCT and female streamer buff with Myth, Council, and Advent
the only relevant in this equation was Myth because they came for the covid.

>>101631063
idk about kayfabe, but I think you're right about interest dying without the buff. the thematic/lore stuff is mostly played out by now and while constraints help foster creativity, there's a lot less to work with when so many popular talents dip and take their audiences with them
idolshit market is oversaturated in the west and hololive still has a premium product for people interested in that. loads of indies/small corpos are also trying to pretend streaming and singing/dancing aren't completely unrelated domains of talent, so you can always just find an unrelated 2-3 view if you decide holo isn't for you anymore

and besides *all that,* the industry's been mature for a year or so now so all the easy growth is gone as other anons have mentioned. new growth has to come from existing audiences that certainly already watch a chuuba or three or getting normies to watch. "mai idoru" is no longer a selling point, it's something the average vtuber watcher puts up with so that his oshi's fragile late-20s heart isn't crushed

>>101610579
Bigger and more boring than ever with all the events diluting each other so nobody had very many

it's always been like that, small corpos have been appearing and dissapearing since the very start of vtubing, some of them survive and grow

>>101605075 (OP)
coming soon
Return of the Queen.

>>101605075 (OP)
it honestly might be, slowly though

>>101605075 (OP)
Bubble popped in 2022 anon. Where have you been