Thread 101676092 - /vt/ [Archived: 828 hours ago]

Anonymous
6/28/2025, 5:22:30 AM No.101676092
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VShojo’s biggest problem is that it doesn’t really have a clear identity. Picking up ex-Hololive or Nijisanji talents won’t fix that. If anything, it could make things feel even more scattered. If you have to explain them to someone as “just a bunch of indie VTubers” or “the best ones not in Hololive,” then the brand kind of already failed at standing out.
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Anonymous
6/28/2025, 5:42:37 AM No.101676670
>>101676092 (OP)
I kinda disagree because they actually tried to cook something with their Lollipop concert. But for some reason they stopped doing that and it ended up the only concert they ever did as a group

I think VShojo has come up with the identity and the debut of VShojo Nova shows that they want to be somewhat like the usual agencies with gen-debuts through audition. But this change irked some members because in the past, they control VShojo, now it seems like VShojo is starting to take back some of that control, and firing Matara for seeking 3rd party merch vendor is proof that the members don't actually have the full control of their career like what they are promised

Indie women are that selfish. Either the agency gives them 100% power or they leave, and even VShojo cannot fulfill that demand, especially when they have nothing to put on the negotiation table unlike Holo and Niji
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Anonymous
6/28/2025, 5:44:19 AM No.101676716
>>101676670
>firing Matara for seeking 3rd party merch vendor
Didn't Geega take this rrat out behind the barn?
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Anonymous
6/28/2025, 5:51:00 AM No.101676897
>>101676716
And even so, it's clear that Matara did something wrong that warrant a termination, which is still crazy if you think about it

This VShojo is no longer like the VShojo that kson described when she first joined. They are no longer "just tech dudes who like anime girls". If staying in VShojo is so great, then why the need of leaving the agency when you will do the exact same thing as indie anyway?

Fans need to wake up and demand better from VShojo because sooner or later, the brand itself will cease to exist and fall into obscurity with the other fallen agencies (unless they are fine with that for some reason)
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Anonymous
6/28/2025, 5:52:16 AM No.101676932
>>101676092 (OP)
be the first all lesbian vtuber agency
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Anonymous
6/28/2025, 5:52:35 AM No.101676941
>>101676092 (OP)
Basically they are like if you took famous musicians from I dunno, jazz, thrash metal, edm, boy band kpop etc and made them all into a new band, would they actually make new music or agree about much? Their identity would I would think be that they are all basically avant garde rebels against the norms of their backgrounds united to do.. something.

Vshojo kind of had a feeling of this attitude sometimes in picking up ex-holo s and nijis, henya etc but it doesn't really work if they are not actually doing much together. As in Nazuna and Kson are bubbled away totally, many of the shojos never stream and have no incentive to etc.

So it's in reality like "these different musicians are just doing solo careers while being Facebook friends, and sometimes will collab" more than "they made a bunch of really interesting and fresh new music together." Just sticking to your guns and doing what you want is the path of least resistance for talents. They weren't friends beforehand and did not really do much to become friends after joining. So they just stay as separate talents enjoying their talent freedom so much that the whole corpo is redundant.
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Anonymous
6/28/2025, 5:53:15 AM No.101676955
>>101676932
That cant happen with Vshojo though?
Mel would probably fuck a girl, and Michi would(Numi).
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 5:54:11 AM No.101676989
>>101676941
Also before someones >s me I know Nazuna graduated a while back, just meant to say Kson is bubbled but Nazuna absolutely was too before leaving
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 5:54:48 AM No.101677000
>>101676897
Honestly, if a corpo promises a deal for talents that seem too good to be true, it’s probably a red flag about its long term prospects.
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 5:56:28 AM No.101677046
>>101676092 (OP)
I hope ironmouse orbiters keep joining. Milking them of their fans and money and then fuck off.
They also can't hire small vtubers because there's nothing stopping them from pumping and dumping vshojo.
It's really funny.
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 5:56:55 AM No.101677061
>>101676941
They never had a strategy for hiring. All their ex-Niji and ex-holo hires were opportunistic poaching. In their arrogance, they really thought that was enough to get the money flowing.
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 5:58:05 AM No.101677091
>>101676897
Anon, I mean yeah no shit dumb nuts, there’s actual people with legal knowledge or at the very least some sense of what the budget should be spent on. That still can mean they aren’t proficient at it, especially with such a young and ever evolving market and industry. For example VShojo made more of a remark and had a better offer 3 years ago. These days? You can find other companies that do the same. They get behind, and their lack of knowledge is the thing that likely has been escalating these issues, and will face confrontation from talents that might or might know the same thing.
VShojo safest bet right now is to go low, they went for talents that knew their worth while trying to satisfied their own popular talents, eventually people who have learned the ropes will manage to do stuff without them, aiming for those who don’t is what most of this industry does.

This is the age of independent talents making bigger moves than ever, and in some sense is due to VShojo lol
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 6:12:50 AM No.101677531
>>101676092 (OP)
Nah the main problem is that they don't have ambition. Niji's ambition is that all jap girls will fall for their males. Holo's ambition is that their Holo merch will appear as common as Legos (plus metaverse stuff but you get the point). And Phase's ambition is to sell coffee to more people inside and outside of Canada

What is VShojo's ambition? All I've seen is members' own ambition but there is no sense of ambition from the agency as a whole. Do they want more titles aside from "#1 Twitch VTuber agency", which in itself is weird because they monopolized that market? If your ambition fall behind your members' ambition, they will realize that they don't need you anymore, or worse, they will treat you as their heavy luggage

Suisei can absolutely thrive as an indie idol if she chooses to leave Hololive. But she didn't because Hololive's ambition matches hers, and so helping Cover famous is helping herself famous. VShojo the agency needs to convince the members that VShojo is willing to provide more for the members instead of letting members do whatever they want while they sit there and do nothing
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 6:13:53 AM No.101677558
>>101676092 (OP)
Kson, for example, is noted as a former Japanese gang leader who bridges cultures and engages in both virtual and real-life (IRL) streams. Henya, another addition, is recognized for her unfiltered commentary. This strategy, which prioritizes "quality over quantity" in talent acquisition and focuses on recruiting "established content creators" , means that VShojo integrates strong, pre-existing individual brands rather than cultivating a uniform agency image from the ground up. This inherent diversity can make it challenging for external audiences to perceive a singular, overarching VShojo "brand."

The user's descriptors, such as "just a bunch of indie VTubers" or "the best ones not in Hololive," underscore a perception that VShojo lacks a distinct corporate brand, instead being defined by its members' independent status or their non-affiliation with industry titans. This perception is reinforced by VShojo's unique contractual model, where its members are essentially "indies hiring management/system of VShojo with business contracts". The crucial aspect of talents retaining their IP, unlike many corporate VTubers , blurs the line between a traditional "agency talent" and a "managed indie." Furthermore, the departure of founding members like Silvervale, Nyatasha Nyanners (who later joined Mythic Talent), Zentreya, and GEEGA can reinforce the notion of individual talent fluidity rather than a strong, unifying corporate brand capable of retaining its members through a collective identity.

VShojo's core value proposition, centered on talent freedom and IP ownership , inherently works against the establishment of a tightly controlled, uniform corporate brand identity. While this appeals strongly to individual talents, it simultaneously makes it difficult for external audiences to grasp a singular VShojo "brand" beyond the collective sum of its highly individualistic parts. A strong, unified corporate brand typically relies on consistent messaging, aesthetics, and content themes across all its members. When individual brands are prioritized and are inherently diverse, the overarching corporate brand can appear "scattered" or less defined to those unfamiliar with the underlying philosophical commitment to talent autonomy. This represents a direct trade-off: maximizing talent freedom potentially minimizes corporate brand cohesion in a traditional sense.

The initial perception of "nepotism" in VShojo's talent acquisition strategy also highlights a public struggle with its non-traditional recruitment approach. This perception arose because VShojo often recruited established creators who already had friendships or connections within the existing talent roster. This deviates from traditional "talent discovery" processes. While this strategy brings in established fanbases, it initially created a public image of an exclusive club rather than a merit-based agency. Even when this perception later shifted to VShojo "saving" talents from other agencies , it still positions VShojo as a reactive entity—a haven for those unhappy elsewhere—rather than a proactive brand with its own distinct, positive, and internally generated brand narrative. This reliance on the circumstances of its talents' past affiliations, rather than an intrinsic VShojo vision, further contributes to the perceived "scattered" identity
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Anonymous
6/28/2025, 6:16:32 AM No.101677631
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>>101677558
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 6:19:36 AM No.101677738
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>>101677558
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 6:19:44 AM No.101677745
>>101676092 (OP)
I think at this point they really don't mind the ambiguity. It's clear that being the vtuber company "filled with indie vtubers" is the niche they're aiming for. They like picking up vtubers with pre-established fans so they don't need to push advertisements as heavily, they're seen as largely nebulous compared to other corpos so they don't have to have much presence in what their talents are doing, and overall their lack of identity only serves to help strengthen that "indie" feeling people get when watching. I can't even tell you the amount of times I've seen people mistakenly refer to Ironmouse as an indie, and a lot of that is because if you only ever watched her through her youtube, you'd never even know considering she never lists them anywhere on it lol
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Anonymous
6/28/2025, 6:19:48 AM No.101677750
>>101676092 (OP)
Their identity was pretty clear to me: Tw*tch whores. Hard pass.
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Anonymous
6/28/2025, 6:20:59 AM No.101677786
>>101677558
shut up chatgpt
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 6:22:32 AM No.101677846
>>101677750
you do realize that almost all of holo en was and some still is twitch whores
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Anonymous
6/28/2025, 6:24:38 AM No.101677912
>>101676092 (OP)
>>101677745
VShojo is like the cucked hero who sit there and watch his harems treat him like trash and leave him for a better hero

There is no drama. The hero did not abuse the girls or anything. He was a good boy, but a boring boy as well, and seeing this happen from an outsider perspective is just sad
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 6:26:05 AM No.101677963
>>101677846
holo jp are are all nnd whores
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 6:34:04 AM No.101678200
>>101676092 (OP)
It seems that their success isn't a direct result of their business acumen or unique product offering, but rather a fortunate twist of fate. Their strategy appears to lack direction, potentially leading to their long-term failure as a company.
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 6:35:34 AM No.101678249
>>101676092 (OP)
The big problem is more the fact that there is nothing to get hyped over. They had applications open up but there's been no news. There was that game announcement like a year ago but again no news and I wouldn't be surprised if that developer bit the dust at this point or took their money and ran. No group concerts or events in general.. Mouse is having a concert at Twitchcon but that's mostly just her thing and it's probably coming entirely out of her pockets since she's been farming sponsors. Even their fucking Minecraft server has been dead since last year. And most of the remaining EN talents are kind of in some rough spots in one way or another or just not streaming.
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 6:45:18 AM No.101678495
>>101677846
>was
Now they aren't.
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Anonymous
6/28/2025, 7:53:14 AM No.101680499
holo and niji gave talents a dream.
holo is an inspiring concert with rigorous lessons.
niji is a game tournament that includes them and their interaction with professional gamers on the outside.
Vspo also gives the same dream as niji.
The above companies also own studios.
HOLO also charges for dance trainers, etc.
The management takes a cut of the guaranty or has the performers pay the costs to make that business model work.
Talent who feel the burden is too much for them graduate.
However, there are many talents who choose to remain in the company because they agree with the dream.
Bae is a talent who wants to dance, so he would agree.

Does vshojo show talents their dreams?
Do they own a studio and have dance trainers and other concert staff?
Even though the rate of return on the talent may be high, if capital investment is not made to show the dream, some talent will choose to graduate.
A ship without dreams is boring.

Holo and niji seem to want to dump performers who are not convinced that dreaming costs money and rebuild with only talent who are convinced about it.
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Anonymous
6/28/2025, 7:56:04 AM No.101680578
>>101680499
vshojo is just a twitch streamers group that lucked out in getting some venture capital when vtubing was the new popular thing
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Anonymous
6/28/2025, 7:59:22 AM No.101680647
>>101680578
I am not talking about whether the boat is lucky or not.
It is about whether the management is giving the talent more to dream about than sitting in a chair and talking to a computer.
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Anonymous
6/28/2025, 8:08:40 AM No.101680842
>Superchat is 100% talent
>Goods also generate revenue for management.

This business model will collapse because of the US President.
Because both Japanese and US offices depend on China for goods.
Only China can mass produce cute plush toys.
If goods are produced in the U.S., the quality will be low and expensive.
Holo and niji's main sales are in Japan, so they can complete their trade only in China and Japan.
But vshojo's main sales are in the US, so the Trump tariffs will hit it directly.

So what would happen if they changed their business model and changed the contract to one in which the management also receives income from superchat, etc.?
In that case the talents who are used to 100% will graduate.
I hypothesize that the vshojo problem is the Trump problem.
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Anonymous
6/28/2025, 8:09:47 AM No.101680866
>>101680647
oh, the answer is no
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 8:36:32 AM No.101681507
>>101678495
ERB...
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Anonymous
6/28/2025, 8:37:33 AM No.101681530
>>101676897
>unless they are fine with that for some reason
Why wouldn't I be fine with it? If Vshojo needs to change drastically to be like the other companies to survive then it would already be dead in my book. It's better for it to just die then become a mockery of itself.
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 8:39:37 AM No.101681574
It's just a shit brand, kson and henya at least became 10 times worse entertainers than in the past. kson's innovation is gone, henya is just a react slopbot now. I don't know about the other girls but these hurt me quite a bit and I'll never forgive vshojo for ruining them
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Anonymous
6/28/2025, 8:51:24 AM No.101681791
>>101681574
>henya is just a react slopbot now
She was already doing react content long before she joined Vshojo and most of her current content is still gaming, retarded phasecuck.
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 8:51:34 AM No.101681796
>>101680499
If it's not something that the talent wanted, it's not a dream. It's an obligation being shoved down their throats. Do the talent actually want to be idols doing concerts through rigorous lessons? Do they actually want to be in a game tournament?

Hell, let's use Henya as an example. The thing she wanted that she couldn't get from her previous job was a 3d model, which she ended up getting. She didn't care about being some e-sport tourneyfag, didn't really care to be an idol. All she wants is to stream playing games.
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Anonymous
6/28/2025, 8:57:58 AM No.101681904
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Anonymous
6/28/2025, 9:03:35 AM No.101681995
>>101676092 (OP)
>>101676670
Vshojo has had a bit of an identity crisis I think, and as much as I think the talents are probably open to doing a group project they've constantly failed to organise anything.
Maybe the issue is management not really knowing what to do. Like the auditions fiasco.

Some people think talent is leaving Vshojo because they are changing how they work with IP and switching to more of an Phase Invaders style model where in theory you own the IP, but for the duration of a contract it belongs to the company.
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 9:07:45 AM No.101682062
>>101681796
>Do the talents actually want to do what they signed up for?
This has to be the most retarded thing I've read all day.
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Anonymous
6/28/2025, 9:13:16 AM No.101682139
>>101682062
No, the most retarded thing is insinuating that one company "gives its talents dreams" because they want to do what they signed up for, but the other doesn't give them dreams because it lets them do what they want, which they also signed up for.
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Anonymous
6/28/2025, 9:17:57 AM No.101682211
>>101681796
You don't understand what she really meant when she said “I want a 3D model”.
What she really meant was "I want to perform and shine with the 3D models I receive.
That is what holo-niji is doing.
Simply giving her a 3D model is not enough to fulfill her wish.
That's why we are now “preparing” to “create a fan box”.
Do you understand what it means to “create a fan box” on a ship with a 100% talent guarantee?
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Anonymous
6/28/2025, 9:19:07 AM No.101682233
>>101682139
>it lets them do what they want
It's pretty ironic that they claim to support 'talent freedom' but don't allow their talents to play Harry Potter games because it might upset certain radical groups
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Anonymous
6/28/2025, 9:19:37 AM No.101682240
>>101682211
>What she really meant was "I want to perform and shine with the 3D models I receive.
Bitch nigga you need to unscrew that tinfoil hat because literally all she gives a shit about is streaming whatever pops in her mind. "perform and shine" isn't even a thing she gives a shit about.
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 9:20:38 AM No.101682254
>>101682233
Fuck you talking about retard? Silvervale was still with the company when she played Hogwarts Legacy, and Henya was still Pikamee aka with VOMS when she hiatused away the time she would have spent playing it.
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Anonymous
6/28/2025, 9:27:42 AM No.101682381
>>101682233
Except they were allowed, just warned. If they were actually forbidden like HoloEN was Silvervale would have dodged that controversy.
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Anonymous
6/28/2025, 9:30:25 AM No.101682436
>>101682254
>>101682381
On top of that you can't even verifiably claim that her graduation had to do with it because not only did she graduate along with others who didn't play the game, she did so 2 months after the fact.
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 9:39:16 AM No.101682590
>>101676092 (OP)
Vshojo's biggest problem is that it is a parasitic entity, not a developmental one.
As much as we shit on niji, they at least hire nobodies and fling them against the wall to see who succeeds or passes before they milk the successful properties. A brand's main value is that the name brings eyes to a new face, Vshojo on the otherhand brought in already established talents and then effectively does nothing with it except pointlessly wave it's dick as a "big three" back when Nyanner and Vei were part of it. They have since been increasingly irrelevant and even the acquisition of Henya couldn't stop the downward spiral since they have built nothing over the years and instead have only lost their biggest names as they realize there really is no value in joining what is effectively little more then a "kool kids klub"
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Anonymous
6/28/2025, 9:47:10 AM No.101682733
>>101682590
They debuted Nova, your argument is invalid and retarded.
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Anonymous
6/28/2025, 9:55:57 AM No.101682854
>>101682733
NTA, but Nova was them finally realising after 1 year that just waving your dick around with kson’s name is never going to work out in Japan
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Anonymous
6/28/2025, 10:00:46 AM No.101682919
>>101682733
>they released a bunch of 2views
clap emoji
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Anonymous
6/28/2025, 10:03:20 AM No.101682954
>>101682854
Sure but that's a different argument. Nova is also just the lowest hanging fruit in that regard. I'm not denying that they were overdue though.
Personally I don't really think Vshojo's flaw is a lack of identity or whatever else people who don't even watch Vshojo rrat about, they clearly have one. The real flaw is that they're just too slow in everything they do so they're not good at keeping up positive momentum.
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Anonymous
6/28/2025, 10:05:11 AM No.101682982
>>101682954
>positive momentum
vshojo has no positive momentum lmao
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Anonymous
6/28/2025, 10:06:55 AM No.101682999
>>101682982
Currently not but they had several moments in time when things went well for them and then they just didn't capitalize on it further.
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Anonymous
6/28/2025, 10:11:02 AM No.101683055
>>101682919
All of them are 3 views and you betray your own argument.
>they at least hire nobodies and fling them against the wall to see who succeeds or passes before they milk the successful properties.
That's exactly what Vshojo did here.
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 10:12:39 AM No.101683084
>>101682733
>We are one of the more recognizable vtubing brands with the advantage of having the western market as our home turf as compared to hololive and niji
>We will capitalize on this by...debuting four 2 views after several years of fake auditions mired in controversy and hope our one and a half JP talents is enough to get them exposure
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Anonymous
6/28/2025, 10:16:56 AM No.101683161
>>101683084
Being part of a recognizable brand in the west isn't much of a boost for jp vtubers, even then, Vshojo was always significantly smaller overall than Holo and Niji who predated them by years.
But good job conceding your own argument from earlier, I guess writing incoherent nonsense is preferable for a retard like yourself.
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 11:37:39 AM No.101684242
>>101681507
As much as ERB collabs with males, she's the least sexual one in holoEN. She's pretty wholesome, all things considered.
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 12:00:53 PM No.101684547
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>>101676092 (OP)
Vshojos actual biggest problem
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Anonymous
6/28/2025, 12:03:00 PM No.101684573
>>101684547
bad clippers?
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 12:51:34 PM No.101685216
>>101680647
>management is giving the talent more to dream about
The "talent" doesn't have dreams in the first place.
Weirdly enough the ones who are pushing to do concerts and 3D streams are ex-niji and ex-holo members, even Henya. It's almost like niji and holo scouts were looking for people with ambitions and dreams.
The rest are just twitch streamers with an anime skin.
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 12:53:55 PM No.101685244
>>101684547
Crazy how she decided to hang out with Hasan but not Silvervale.
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Anonymous
6/28/2025, 12:54:39 PM No.101685259
>>101680842
Trump is a VShojo anti. You heard it here first.
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 12:59:36 PM No.101685319
>>101682999
Yeah, like when they announced Haruka as the one who won the auditions. After all the controversy with the auditions, to do that is so tone deaf.
Let's see who they hire now, if they hire anyone. Zen was the only one pushing for new blood, so I don't have high hopes for it, but I'll give them the benefit of the doubt.
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 1:01:08 PM No.101685342
>>101682733
More like they had no choice but to debut 2views. You really think any big JP would audition for VShojo? kek
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Anonymous
6/28/2025, 1:06:44 PM No.101685437
>>101685342
Sushidog openly auditioned while she was a high 3 view / 4 view, so yeah they had a choice.
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Anonymous
6/28/2025, 1:21:55 PM No.101685669
>>101685244
She didn't hang out with Hasan in either of these clips.
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 1:37:04 PM No.101685881
>>101685437
>JP
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Anonymous
6/28/2025, 1:42:50 PM No.101685978
>>101685881
Already trying to move the goalposts now? She's somewhere between Henya and Kson in terms of how much she speaks in japenese but all her events are purely in JP. If it was just about numbers she could have easily replaced Hestia as their pick.
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 3:23:26 PM No.101687684
>>101682733
The difference lies in the level of recognition the agency itself has. VShojo is so unknown in Japan that it doesn’t even rank among the top five. It doesn’t have enough brand value to elevate an unknown newcomer. So even if they do the same things as Nijisanji, they won’t see the same results.
NOVA is the result of that.
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Anonymous
6/28/2025, 3:57:54 PM No.101688345
>>101687684
Nobody expected them to compete with the largest JP corpos.
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Anonymous
6/28/2025, 4:15:05 PM No.101688719
>>101688345
>they were expecting flops right from the start
At least come up with a better cope
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Anonymous
6/28/2025, 4:19:02 PM No.101688796
>>101688719
That's not cope that's just the reality of the situation. VshojoJP didn't even really exist anymore when they debuted but they pulled through and are doing well compared to some older and established vtuber corpos like VOMS. There's no reason at all to think they could or would need to compete with Hololive or Nijisanji when VshojoJP had literally 1 1/2 members before their debut.
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 4:34:15 PM No.101689129
>>101688719
Cope is what Vshojo was doing when they tried to act like they were big players in Japan for like a year after they signed Kson. NOVA is them accepting the fact they are small corpo level