It's pretty incredible to see someone consistently fuck over their fanbase for nearly three years, graduate, put on a new model and everyone just pretends as if nothing happened.

See this is what Shiori and Kronii should've done. Had they gone this route, Novelites and Kronies would've completely forgiven everything by the debut stream. Remarkable stuff. We should study this.

jesse what the fuck are you talking about

>>101721820 (OP)
Lay off the Suipiss, anon. It makes you too loopy.

>>101721820 (OP)
get a job

>>101722032
I can stop any time I want... stop counting my drinks, you whore...

>>101721820 (OP)
They pretended nothing happened literally every time she streamed. It's the same formula she's always had.

>>101721820 (OP)
It's as if, and get this, her fanbase is filled with fat autists

>>101721820 (OP)
This was all repeated again and again before vtubing even blew up. It's incredibly old news. Following your oshi isn't like buying a product. There's no cost-benefit analysis in the equation.

But the dramafags coming in here after the boom thought that that's all just a nice-sounding lie and fans are actually secretly discerning consumers who will jump to better vtubers if they can only be shown how much they've been missing out. They wanted console wars. They bought into all the 'holding my streamer to standards' that, let's be real, only the most hardcore autists here are doing and shitposters are using to shitpost about. They can't envision a world in which someone doesn't measure watchable hours per dollar given. So then there's all this bitterness and shock at all the psyops and anti-Gura propaganda over years failing so horribly. "We've shown you thousands of times on this influential board how it's not worth it to watch Gura! There's so many better vtubers out there! Why!"

You were living in the 4chan shitposter bubble. What is actually fascinating is seeing people like you needing years to come to the realization that they were never remotely in tune with how the actual average vtuber fans outside here think at all.

>>101721820 (OP)
what did Shiori and Kronii do this time

>>101721820 (OP)
Dude... are you OK?

>>101727064
Nothing, Shiori is a whore and Kronii is my wife, like always.

>>101728787
I wrote this post

>Hololive can never be the bad one, it has to be the talents.
When will people start to accept that Gura was constantly stealth suspended because she didn't want to censor herself.

>>101729379
NIJISEETHE

>>101729454
Actually I watch hololive, CC is who I watch the most, I just also recognise hololive isn't this amazing place with 0 issues because I watch for the actual girls not the corpo, unlike you.

>>101721820 (OP)
yeah kronii should do this, lazy whore

>>101729508
>Actually I watch hololive
Then you would know that, for all their faults, Hololive doesn't fucking do stealth suspensions.

>>101729877
work phone

>>101729877
Proof? I bet you don't have any, meanwhile there's quite a bit of evidence to show they do in fact stealth suspend.

>>101730374
>prove a negative
Retard.
Meanwhile, all nijisisters do is project and ascribe faults of their own tribe to Hololive while denying that they're the ones actually doing the bullshittery.

>>101721820 (OP)
Imagine wasting time watching Shiori, eww

>>101721820 (OP)
I don't think she did anything wrong but I want to tie her up and fuck her as punishment for it anyway

>>101721820 (OP)
watching her is fun
That's literally all that matters
you can cry about everything else you want, but the only thing that matters is that people feel good when they watch her and no one else cares about anything else

>>101721820 (OP)
Indeed, but people just can't realise that. Somehow, when a familiar face is on screen, the fans forget & instantly forgive.

>>101723446
I gotta hit em with the TRUE

>>101723446
It's funnier if you don't tell them, anon.

>>101721820 (OP)
It is the proof they're the most loyal fanbase. So loyal that they don't watched anyone else.

>>101721820 (OP)
yes anon, women are gold-digging whores and men are desperate coomer retards. I'm sorry it took you until the year of our lord 2025 to find this out

>>101729379
The amount of stories you retards come up with to try to pretend that she wasn't just really lazy is fascinating

>>101723446
This really is the post. Thankfully now we have alternatives to /vt/ to discuss vtubing like the other, better message board that shall not be named.

>>101723446
While you're absolutely right, bold of you to assume people making such threads actually care about vtubers' fans and aren't just trolls looking to stir shit for lulz and funny pics to post on Twitter

>>101721820 (OP)
What has teh Sui to do with any of that?

>>101730587
>"the earth doesn't exist"
>proof?
>prove a negative
retard

>>101733743
She wasn't lazy before gura, she wasn't lazy until a certain time as gura, and now she's back she's planning daily streams. At what point do you accept hololive was the problem.

>>101735155
delusional retard, holy shit.

>>101735155
She didn't do jack shit as Senzawa except get drunk

>>101735135
>Hololive doing stealth suspensions is as certain as the ground beneath our feet
Post tits.

>>101732363
theres no way you found that shillmax lowenergy redebut was something fun

>>101721820 (OP)
What

>>101735469
she still streamed more than she did while stealth suspended as gura

>>101735552
>Gura streamed.
>then she didn't stream.
>there's no other explanation besides "she's lazy"
post your tits sister.

>>101741092
>then she didn't stream
>for whole six month periods

>>101743133
exactly, no one is lazy for 6 months, it was stealth suspensions.

>>101743792
>gets stealth suspended for six months
FIVE times in a row?!

>>101744462
it was 1 long stealth suspension because she refused to censor herself, cover wanted a child friendly face but gura was anything but that. They just let her come back for big events and such so people wouldn't complain about it as much.

>>101745639
Once again, this isn't Nijisanji. Cover doesn't do stealth suspensions, let alone ones that last three fucking years.