Vtuber fans have no subtlety. Don't they realize how rude this is?

>>101862789 (OP)
The more things change the more chumbuds stay the same

you'd think after 5 years you'd be able to handle a chat by now

>>101862469
another quality /#/ thread

>>101862789 (OP)
a lot of vtubing is just poorly kept secrets.

>>101862816
/#/ is the only active thread on this board.

>>101862789 (OP)
couldn't happen to a better person, she can't roll with it because you know she's seething on the inside

>>101862816
>multiple people calling her a moneygrubber for having debut merch
Why do Holobronies lack any hint of self-awareness?

>>101862845
the western holofans left to another site and didn't invite the numberseas lmao

>>101862820
Kayfabe's been dead for a while now. Dooby straight-up addressed it publicly and clearly doesn’t care about being exposed anymore kek.

>>101862816
OP here. I go into a bunch of threads (not just /#/) and pick out stuff I think would make for good catalog discussion topics instead of the same boring threads over and over again. Here's the other thread I was considering from my quick dive earlier.

>>101862901
/#/ aren't people

>>101862789 (OP)
>>101862799
>>101862896
Maybe DON'T stream at the same time as a debut? If you won't do it to another Holo . .

>>101862789 (OP)
>insufferable shitty fanbase is shitty
we know.

She deserves better
She worked for better
KFP got lucky.

>>101862901
we also call holo money hungry but that's the expectation for a corporation, also it just comes off alot worse for a holo to graduate then debut and immediately start asking for money because it gives the notion that the fans didn't give them enough while they were a holo/other corpo and makes people question where all the money they donated went. even if the answer is the company normal people don't think about that

>>101863013
What are you? A phasecuck? Or perhaps even a twitchfag? Not a lot of quality left here

>>101863018
Why? They're not in the same company anymore. Saba's just a random indie now.

>>101862789 (OP)
>chumbuds are rude tourists
and water is wet

>>101862799
Fpbp

>>101863156
If kiara ever graduates it would suck to have that bridge burned don't you think? Kiara is limiting her career options, creating less spaces on the board she can move

>>101863197
Stfu cumcuck. Kiara is not obliged to favour your indie.

>>101863152
The absolute state of /#/. Further proving my point at being a bunch of dramahungry tribalfags always hunting for something to fight.

>>101862789 (OP)
They have always been the most tribalistic fanbase that turns everything into a competition and has to make sure everyone knows it.

>>101863197
You people are actually insane

>>101863197
Shut the fuck up cuntiki holy shit

>>101862789 (OP)
Is see saba fans learned nothing from Fubuki incident. Frankly she should just ban all of them.

>>101862902
even the homosisters left, i give this place 2-3 years before it's a desert.

>>101862845
>>101863152
># is the only active thread on this board
>not a lot of quality left here

>>101862789 (OP)
This is just a proof that corpos are putting a gun at their heads

>>101863237
Sorry to break it to you but /#/ is busy talking about Kronii responding to Gura, this thread is all generic catalogfags.

>>101863433
God I wish my split would move. This place is even more cancerous than before.

>>101863260
its more a willfully ignorant thing where they think Gura belongs everywhere and deserves everyone's attention at all times

>>101863475
my condolences

My favorite part about all of this is that Saba made an unofficial raid after her debut to support Kiara.
So you went from people getting their posts deleted from mentioning Saba, to getting 'read the rules' lectures to getting shown nothing but kindness from Saba.
See, Kiara always talks about how she liked to hang out with 'Goobidiba' and in that stream she was actively spurring people for mentioning Saba as opposed to being excited for her.
True streams have rules and talking about other streamers in another chat has issues that come with that but this was handled poorly.
Even something as simple as 'good luck to her or go watch her debut' would have been a net positive but Kiara is Kiara. She has her ways of operating.

>>101862789 (OP)
It's funny when its members being that retarded

>>101863560
Chumbud defending theirs shit behavior. How many Holos have mentioned someone like Sakuna directly or chat spammed her name?

>>101863260
remember when they went into Fubuki's chat to gloat when Gura hit a million before her?
Fubuki didn't deserve it and while I'm not a Kiara fan by any means, she doesn't deserve it either

>>101862789 (OP)
It's her community, who the fuck else is going to be in her stream during the debut? She has every right to enact the rules on them, but I don't see how they're anyone else's problem

>>101862789 (OP)
Extremely based. Everyone deserved to know about the return of the queen on EN vtubers. Obeying silly corpo imposed behavioral guidelines is for fans of lesser vtubers.

>>101863935
I did not know this, what a bunch of cocksuckers. Can’t wait for this grifting bitch to leave these stupid faggots waiting in the lurch for years at a time all over again

>>101862955
Perhaps, but the Holo girls are still contractually obligated to pretend to care about kayfabe
And regardless of kayfabe, there's also the part where those assholes are promoting and talking about one streamer in another streamer's chat. Most streamers are not okay with that sort of fuckery, and Kiara is not an exception.

>>101862896
this

triangle stans eating shit while taking their latest L will never not be funny

Personally, I don't care. What I do care about are these thumbnails. They fucking enrage me for some reason, just thinking about someone sitting there and positioning and sizing the text, finding and syncing it up with a close up of an attention grabbing vtuber expression. Honestly, fucking despise it. I actively will never give that shit a click.

>>101862789 (OP)
She should've banned all those subhumans

>>101862789 (OP)
>another chumbuds L threads
GRIM

sure hololive is a first tier japanese vtubing company but indies and filian are the only english speaking vtubers who matter now so why the fuck is this niche company that only matters in japan even whining on this board isn't it time to fuck off to 5channel, oji-san?

>>101862789 (OP)
It was her big debut and Kiara has talked about missing Gura on multiple occasions. Nobody would care if she streamed a day later or hours earlier or afterwards.

>>101865048
>filian
opinion discarded

>>101864199
>>101833013

>>101863560
She can't do that, retard. Do you think Cover allows the girls to shill the competition?

>>101863010
Die

>>101865452
We don't snivel and bow down to how corpos tell us to behave. It's no surprise that so many Americans that didn't want to meekly put up with Japanese corpo abuse were the ones who left. Other cultures and values are meaningless if we simply ignore them and act how we want to act. What are you going to do about it?

>>101865320
yagoo would trade the rest of his english speaking roster for a sniff of filians asshole, you are literally less fucking relevant than whoever owns neuro and ironmouse now, fucking LOOOOOOOOOOOOOSSSERRRS lmfao
gura won, just suck it up princess

Kinda funny Saba will overtake Kiara in subs. lol

>>101865538
No. :)

>>101863560
As usual chumcucks are retarded.

>>101862789 (OP)
Saba-kani are autistic.

>>101863197
Do Saba fans have the self awareness to realize the world doesn't revolve around her? Even Saba herself wouldn't want, that's what she said she graduated for that the position as first vtuber was getting to her

>>101862789 (OP)
>have autistic fans
>surprised they're being autistic

>>101866097
>first vtuber
that's Shiori

>>101865652
>Americans don't bow down to corporations.

>>101862789 (OP)
>all other vtubers
Oh hey Gura is redebuting

>Hololive (TM)
NOOOOOOOOOOO do not mention Vtubers not affiliated with Cover Corporation (R) / HOLOLIVE INC!! it is expressly forbidden by our Japanese management staff!!! MODS - censor these people immediately and disable the fish emoji! Cease and Desist all comments that may negatively impact the stock price of COVER Corp!!! we will pursue legal action immediately!

Did you hear moonjelly cheating her viewers since 2019? phasekeks lmao

>>101862789 (OP)
This is literally standard chumkek activity, not worthy of a thread

>>101863018
Next time you want to go to sleep I'm going to go into your house, into your room and bang drums for 10 hours. Your fault for going to sleep when I want to play the drums. You understand how retarded this argument is, right?

I did not even know that cover still had an english speaking division thank you kind foreigner

>>101866802
When the Queen comes back, you kneel. Gura litteraly made EN great on her own, the other myth members are specs of dust compared to her.

did they think Kiara would do a watchalong lol?

>>101863156
>>101866802
Anon, it's not that hard. They SHARE the same audience and are from the same gen. If either Kiara or Saba were a male vtuber on Twitch it won't matter. It doesn't make sense for Kiara to stream given how close they were too unless management mandated it or they talked before hand.

UNOFFICIAL SABA RAID

>>101867125
OMG

>>101862789 (OP)
that's the power of autism, friends.

>>101862789 (OP)
If you don't want this sort of comment, don't overlap ther biggest EN vtuber's redebut.

>>101862845
Grim

>>101865652
>>101866175
he meant real americans, not the goy cattle that America(tm) has raised in its plantations.

>>101866097
>Do Saba fans have the self awareness to realize the world doesn't revolve around her?
Other vtuber fans don't have the mindset that the world revolves around their oshi? No wonder their oshis are all so much less successful and popular that her.

>>101862789 (OP)
>Vtuber fans
You mean Holofans.

even itt chumbrowns have 0 self awareness
never change faggots

gura casually dominating kiara streams and kiara threads without even knowing it, it's all over for cover EN, time to learn japanese and fuck off to tokyo
sayonara bitches

Organic thread on an organic board

>>101863099
Wait, you actually think the reason they are begging for money is because the company took it? You can't be this dumb. The reason they ask for money at the times they do is because those are the times to get the most money for the least backlash at how explicit they are about it (plus it helps assess the viability of the whole thing).

>>101862789 (OP)
Internet users in general have the subtlety and self control of rabid monkies on concaine.
It's like with Mori and her RM where for a while you had people in her and RM's comment fields going "Haha nudge nudge". It was annoying to say the least.

>>101862789 (OP)
>Kiara was seething about Gura leaving
Way to be the better person krautwawa

>>101867425
Watch streams.

kiara:
we will never know what she said because nobody who speaks english watches cover any more

>>101862789 (OP)
Kiara really needs to tard wrangle her fans what a bunch of retards.

>>101866944
You are a colossal retard who has no actual understanding of this community. Plenty of people thrived while she didn't stream for 3+ years, shut up retard.
>>101867054
Yea, and he's gonna share his house with me because that's where I want to play the drums, faggot. It's on Kiaras channel, so why the fuck does she have to worry about what another channel does?

I really dislike Kiara, but doing shit like that isn't cool. I bet you most of the people who posted that shit are children, niggers and retards. Anyone with half a brain cell and the slightest bit of decency wouldn't do something thing like that. There's literally no argument against what I just said, it's just facts. And if you are stupid enough to argue with me, then you need to stay away from vtubing and online all together.

>>101863097
It really sucks how much kiara clearly cares/cared about gura and how those feelings clearly weren't reciprocated at all. In the last few myth collabs gura could be assed to show up to before graduation kiara always tried to find ways to include her in the conversation only to have gura completely brush her off give some sort of noncommittal "haha yeah" before going silent again.

>>101862789 (OP)
>Kiara can't read the room
>KFP can't read the room
THEY ARE

>>101862789 (OP)
>Don't they realize
No, we don't realize anything at all

>>101863560
Really? This is cute

kiara existed for five minutes as a footnote in gura's return and then she was never heard of again

>>101867691
Nice fanfic, but then why did Kiara make a mengen post where she said she and Gura talked about their gardens after the graduation?

>>101863156
>he doesn't know
>>101863214
>>101863265
>>101863319
>>101866097
Good evening saars

>>101863260
>>101863528
>>101863935
>>101864202
>newfag tourists/numbermonkeys falling for their own falseflags
You cretins are insufferable, you know that?

>>101863866
>>101866084
>t.

>>101866231
Like you have to be pretty autistic not to recognize that they exist in a highly restrictive corporate hierarchy and they're not in a position where they can speak freely about it

>>101868008
Nothing to do with anything I just said. Learn to read.

>>101868272
Being autistic doesn't mean those people have to be this dumb. But you have a point, but it's more than that. It's straight up disrespect and ignorance, with a mix of probably being some 3rd world nigger or children. I don't even like Kiara yet here I am defending her.

A worm should know to burrow into the ground when the sun rises, lest it be pecked by birds

please kanaki stop, remember to think of their feelings
A HA HA HA HA HAAA

>>101868312
>the refutation of my central point has nothing to do with anything I just said
Except it shows Gura reciprocates Kiara's feelings, which you're pretending she didn't based on hallucinations that never actually happened. Learn basic logic.

>>101868510
You're using words as if you just googled their meanings. Stop. There's no place for talking about another streamer in another streamers chat that isn't even in the same company anymore unless said streamer was already talking about them which they weren't. I think you are trying to justify this bs, but it can't be justified. It's low class viewers, end of story.

>>101862799
>chumbuds
They wouldn't be caught dead watching Kiara. Try again.

>thread became bumchud damage control
entirely unsurprising
seanogs never change after all

>>101862789 (OP)
>yt chat is full of thirdworlders & underages
what else is now

>>101862789 (OP)
People in general have no subtlety. It's the brainrot.

>>101862799
Most obnoxious fanbase ever

lol don't care fuck em both

>>101869024
"New" I guess you mean. That's the point I was getting across. And chumbuds are acting as if nothing wrong was done, but if it was the other way around they'd say different. It's definitely 3rd worlders, children and retards like I said. Chum buds should be saying "no no most of us wouldn't do this", but sadly it's clear they would since they are arguing.

>>101862789 (OP)
I remember how many extra chat rules were instated because of retarded chumkeks back when EN first debuted.
Their constant shit flinging idiocy made things difficult.

>>101869197
yeaaaaa
madeup fanbase wars
my favorite

>>101862901
"haha I never streamed and just collected money for a couple of years :^)"
"haha I'm totally not that same person give me money again :^)"

>>101869252
Very creative reply..

Are you pathetic retards still spamming these Holo vs ex-holo threads? Don't you get tired?

>>101862901
Holofans can be some of the worst, but at this point I think 90% of the people here are just bad people. They all make their fan bases look like absolute vile creatures. It's a shame but it is what it is and things will only get worse sadly.

>>101865660
here is a pity (You)
don’t spend it all in one place

>>101863373
Didn't even notice that. Where did they go? /vyt/?

Cover? Oh yeah the Japanese vtubing agency. They still around?

>>101864415
>contractually obligated
headcanon.

>>101869890
It's posts likes yours that need to stop. Nothing will change anytime soon when it comes to Holo, they are massive and ain't going any where soon. Doesn't matter if its ID, EN or JP. Just stop being the person you are today, at least try. And if you have an oshi, please dedicate you energy and time to them.

>>101862789 (OP)
Just looked at the clip and all I gotta say is Kiara's crushing it with that frog getup.

>>101862789 (OP)
funny as hell because chumbuds don't watch kiara

>>101863097
Kiara deserves nothing.

>>101870403
I don't like her. But no talent or other streamer should have these types of creatures in their chat. It's not funny, creative, or smart. It just shouldn't happen. Just be a reasonable person.

>>101866231
you forgot your wojak.

>>101862789 (OP)
The reason it took so many years for Kiara to become friendly with Gura was because Gura's fans and Kiara DO NOT get along. It's just like Bae said when her fans tried to hoard tickets for that concert, if a fanbase is bad enough it can cause tensions between the Holomems themselves.

>>101870505
Everyone who gets this stuff deserves it because they could just filter the words for the stream or make the chat more restricted or any number of things but they always refuse to do it and instead stir up drama by responding directly to it.

>>101870505
>should have these types of creatures in their chat
Those are her members and those who actively watch her. People spamming that it's Chumbuds itt are retarded. There is pretty much no chance that they would watch Kiara of all people, even ironically.

Kanichads please stop, they're already dead

>>101862789 (OP)
Kanicucks continue to be one of the worst canvases in vtubing, right alongside rufficucks

>>101862789 (OP)
>overlap biggest indie debut ever
>act indignant when chat keeps talking about it
Kiara’s own fault, dumb cunt

>>101862789 (OP)
Is Kiara only now realizing her fanbase is made of manchildren

>oh no the consequences of my own leeching
Kek

>>101870807
Even more drama would happen if the word Saba or certain emotes were filtered from a streamers chat.. Please think.

>>101870843
Made it clear I don't like Kiara, so if her own members are doing it, then what am I to say except repeat myself. You didn't contribute.

>>101871422
I'm thinking

>>101868763
>changing the topic
Nowhere did I defend the offtopic shitters in Kiara's chat, retard. I'm pointing out the fact that Saba returns Kiara's feelings and that you have no clue what you're talking about.
It's unfortunate that basic English vocabulary is beyond your comprehension, but I'm not going to stop making you look like a retard just because you begged. Quit sidestepping the issue and accept that you can't refute the irrefutable.

>>101863560
>My favorite part about all of this is that Saba made an unofficial raid after her debut to support Kiara.
Proof?

>>101871422
I'm thinking fish

>>101868990
>Dravidians get blown out for being braindead catalogmonkeys
>"b-b-bumchud damage control!"
Post hands

>>101869259
>"haha I never streamed and just collected money for a couple of years :^)"
NOOOOO SHE ACTUALLY WANTED TO STREAM RANDOM GAME X BUT SHE HAD NO PERMSSSSSSS IT WAS OUT OF HER HANDS

>>101869298
If it smells like shit everywhere you go, consider checking your shoe

>>101871631
At this point it's just you spurting words. If you say so anon, you proved nothing except you are a creature of this platforms current look. Bravo

>>101871683
You didn't think. You didn't have any thing good to say and that's fine. Just don't reply.

>>101871991
No I wanted to insert a fish emoji like a retard

>>101871756
Okay. I'm sure you get by irl with those responses. We both know you don't. Go support your oshi instead of talking shit.

>>101862789 (OP)
>cries at gura's graduation
always knew this fake bitch only had crocodile tears.

>>101872001
Ah, very nice.

>>101862789 (OP)
>3rdworldbuds.
>Having any sense of shame.

>>101862789 (OP)
does someone have a link to this clip? something tells me the OP is taking this out of context for (you)s and the actual clip is more innocuous.

Saba is responsible for her fanbase. If her fan base are making problems for people, then its going to blow back on her. This may lead to intense isolation. As an indie, and as a person, that's a death sentence. Hopefully she will realize this sooner rather than later and try to kick out the ones causing issues.

>>101872867
No one can control a community with over 20k concurrent viewers it's literally impossible from a sub sampling rate.

>>101872575
Feel like it's pretty straightforward but here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yV0sIGL56mo
Naplings also had a similar issue around Nimi's debut when they flooded Gigi's chat

>>101872867
>socially isolating the most successful vtuber of all time
Yeah okay good luck there. Jealousy isn't a nice look.

>>101873006
Considering gigi inherited fauna fanbase that make sense

>>101862799
FPBP
Her fans are quickly teaching the wider vtuber sphere that they're deranged assholes.
I've got dozen of these. They're spamming under everyone's vods.

It's really funny because it just continues to showcase how vtuber fans (along with video game fans) have no tact, subtlety, or the ability to approach topics with care whatsoever and they MUST tell the streamer everything all at once. They could have chosen the more mature route of keeping it to themselves, but actively chose not to while ignoring the longest and most ongoing consistent rule in every Hololive girl's chat.

There are people who try to set a good example, but then there's others like that who'll just make everyone else look like dumb cunts. It's pretty impressive. Just comes with the territory though. Hopefully it's somewhat of a wake up call of how dumb your fans can be.

>>101869203
Remember when they went into Fubuki's chat and bragged about Gura reaching 1m first?
Good times, some things never change.

>>101867820

>>101871957
>Then I pretended to struggle with reading simple English
>Making me the victor
Concession accepted
>>101872025
I am supporting her and it's been great. Maybe you should do the same with yours instead of enviously seething in catalog bait threads.
Oh, wait, your oshi IS the catalog. Never mind.

>>101872974
Hey man that's not MY problem, that's hers.

>>101862789 (OP)
Maybe I am being autistic, but I really do not understand what you guys are talking about. What were the fans doing wrong? For saying there was gonna a debut? Is that... not allowed?
Are hololivers really that uptight or am I just not getting it and they were saying something rude?

>>101874033
They all have a basic chat rule to not mention other streamers unless they bring them up first. It seems to be a rule with Japanese companies but isn't much of a thing on the western part of the world.

So you either get it and understand why it's uncool, or you think it's retarded and it makes no sense. There's not really a middle ground.

>>101874033
You don't bring up other streamers unprompted, as it takes attention away from the stream. Especially not people whom you're under contract to pretend it doesn't exist.

Considering she debuted at 4AM SEA time I doubt it's them that's bringing her up in Kiwawa's chat

>>101874123
>>101874178
>Especially not people whom you're under contract to pretend it doesn't exist.
I suppose this is the source of the problem here, it's def this rule that is unreasonable not what chat were doing

>>101874332
Anon...
Don't be surprised if you get banned from every single streamer's chat in the future. People are there to see the streamer. Not whatever person you're advertising

>>101862809
You cannot "handle" a chat because you have no control over the stupidity of the average person. The best you can hope to do is work around it, which is not the same thing. She failed, though.

>>101873315
>"not every Gawr Gura fan, but always a Gawr Gura fan"
>The hordes of catalogschizos, 'cord raiders, numberniggers and leeches randomly begging for collabs from floor to ceiling never existed
The unemployed browns have spoken
>I've got dozens of these
Nice self report
Who's the deranged asshole meant to be again? Is obsessively catalogshitting supposed to make you look any less underaged?

>>101874691
This is true, a large amount of them are phase fans looking to stir shit "for the lulz"

>>101874691
>>101874752
Nigga, phase and all the othe EN agencies didn't even exist when cumbuds were shitting up Fubuki's chat or attacking Iofi.
Nobody is buying this. You tards have been doing this for half a decade.

Don't cry because it's over cry because gura hurt your feelings coverpussys

>>101874828
nobody likes kiara though

>>101874332
You're right, chat should have no moderation and just not be looked at all by streamers because it should be completely worthless spambot slop.

>>101874814
we know, anon.
I'd hope we were all around then.
Doesn't meaan there's still shitstirrers, though it is highly likely it's just overeager gura fans again.

>>101862789 (OP)
>>101874033
>>101874332
despite being 7% of the global population (according to a google search), autists make up about 99% of the chumbud/kanicrew fanbase. why is this?

>>101874872 (me)
fuck I'm tired what on earth did I even type

>>101871422
I refuse to believe Youtube moderation is that bad. There are definitely levels of nuance in those systems like letting people think their post is visible but actually no one else sees it and shit like that.

>>101862789 (OP)
This is probably chumbuds being annoying, but I feel likr most of KFP actually hates Saba. I saw a lot of prominent KFPs on Twitter actively shit on Saba and her model, calling her "lolibait" and how disgusting she looks because she looks like a "child". That KFP with the big beard said he hates how Saba looks like and likes "actual adult women" or something stupid like that. KFP really are the most annoying fanbase aren't they

>>101874984
>KFP really are the most annoying fanbase
they've been in competition with deadbeats since the dawn of myth

>Chumbuds worst fanbase ever
>KFP worst fanbase ever
>Deadbeats worst fanbase ever
>"fan name"+cucks
Pretty much completely summarizes this thread. Makes you wonder which demographic is spamming these.

>>101874984
Proof?
Anyways, my five cents is that it's not a particular fanbase,more like a bunch of brownoids/schizos/tourists/retards/autists from different fanbases and companies acting the most obnoxious they can for attention

>>101874814
>STILL clinging to shit that happened five years ago
>To fuel catalog dramafaggotry, for five fucking years
>"(You) have been doing this for five years"
>Conveniently ignoring actual shitter fanbases, probably ones he belongs to
>"Nobody isn't falling for my fanbase war begging"
Your bluff is transparent, hypocrite. Anyone who's spent any amount of time in ggg/same has seen the endless threadshitting and raids and knows exactly what I'm talking about.
Your oshi is the catalog.

>>101874897
Because 75% of all statistics are made up on the spot.

You know what would be really funny? If brands start seeing Saba as a brand risk because her fans start harassing others they have partnerships with.

>>101875935
Don't give SEA any funny ideas.

>>101862896
you know its going to piss her off so bad when Saba gets to 1.7m faster than her. She did all that promotion and shit for 1.6m lmao.

>>101876017
I'm not directing anyone to do anything, I just don't care what happens as an outside observer and would find that turn of events to be funny.

>>101875935
I really hope that happens.

>>101863010
based

>>101875374
>makes you wonder
nah it's pretty obvious

>>101862799
the more anon seethes, the more they blame the same vtuber fanbase to cope.

>>101867054
>want to open a restaurant
>remember McDonalds is open 24/7
>better not open my restaurant then

>>101872867
She knows she is popular because of her fans. They'll police themselves by following her actions, not by lecturing them.
Many streamers don't learn that one leads by example, not by being hypocrites and virtual signaling.

>>101876171
>the fans have a history of being obnoxious
>the same fans are obnoxious
>There is no pattern here

>>101871422
considering im 100% sure that current hololive members cant mention or collab with Saba they might as well ban the word Saba from chat.

>>101862789 (OP)
Didn't this chat return after Saba's stream?
They probably thought Kiara and Gura were real friends.

>>101876260
>Worst analogy in history award

>>101873824
What else do the voices tell you

>>101876311
Speaking of retards being obnoxious and patterns:
>>101876121
>>101876156
>>101876239
>>101876434
>>101876713
In case and of you were actually under the illusion that chumbuds/kaniki are the problem.

>>101876519
do you really blame them considering how hard kiara was trying to leech of her genmates, I still remember her #1 Pekora fan and #1 Ame fan arcs

>>101876889
Have they finally seen the light?

>>101876171
>antis create a problem that didn't exist
>spam rrat
>people tell them to cut it out
>lol chumbud seethe
>repeat
Only Gura triggers them this way. They think they aren't transparent.

>>101876943
Who, the raiders? Of course not, they're threadshitting with astroturfed low-quality bait like they always do. Can't you read?

>>101876889
See anon the problem here is that it's far more likely that they were just retarded children than seadwellers playing some kind of 4d chess.

Kiara really needs to ban that name or make the "do not bring up other streamers" rule even more prominent.

Either way it'll die down in a week.

>>101877004
the truth is considered low quality bait now? such cope

>>101877065
I see you're one of the retarded children >>101877006 was alluding to

> watched clip
> those who brought up the debut have KFP member badge
> lmao

>>101877211
all gifted b t w

>>101863560
This is why I hated chumbuds. Still love goobs but most of you are loud obnoxious retards who make shit up

>>101876889
Anon. The difference is that cumbuds do this shit outside of /vt/. They harassed other holo members before too.
No other fanbase does this.

>>101877258
Proof next thread?

>>101874461
Well, you can cultivate a better community.

>>101877459
>>101877619
>no other fanbase does this
Right, so I take it neither of you have ever checked the comments section of any of Gura's public stream VODs over the last two and a half years or so?

>>101877893
You mean the people with membership badges pointing out she doesn't stream?
Either way it's nowhere near as bad as going into other people's chat and bragging about subs, advertising, or full on death threats in the case of them harassing Iofi after the among us collab.

>>101877965
I agree with everything else but iofi kinda deserved it

>>101876273
Bro her fan base has been around for how many years now? If they're doing this shit at this point they aren't going to stop without direct influence

>>101878033
Cumbuds:
>It didn't happen
>But if it did happen it was based

>>101878081
I am not a chumbud and I never asserted that it didn't happen in this thread. Iofi honestly deserve all the misfortune coming her way

>>101878047
She never called them out for shitting on Kiara and Mori whenever they appeared in her chat back in 2021.
So much so that both of them said that's why they stopped typing in her chat.
In b4: that was based.

>>101878160
that was indeed, objectively based.

>>101878160
History repeats itself, Saba will be completely alone.

>>101877965
>the people with membership badges pointing out she doesn't stream
Nope. I was right, you never read her comments section and you don't know what you're talking about. Most of them weren't even pretending to be chumbuds and were openly gleeful about her not streaming anymore.
Oops, all your red herrings just died...

>>101878286
no wonder gura was so successful if her antis were so dedicated in their falseflagging, they had me completely fooled

Why are holocucks seething at Saba again? Another Holo yab?

>>101862789 (OP)
I know we're just kind of ignoring it, but as >>101877211 pointed out, why do most of the posters mentioning Saba have KFP badges? Kind of feels like a case of retarded holo unity kiddies thinking Kiara would love to hear about Saba because they think those two are actually close friends.

>>101877965
>>101878081
Let me guess, >>101878136 THIS one's the falseflagger and is secretly a chumkek too, because nobody else eeeeever does this shit, right retards? Come on, get it all out so I can laugh at you.

ah, so that was the end goal, pretending it was holofans all along

>>101878508
Kiara managed to fool her retarded fans into thinking myth were close friends

>>101878513
But...it is?

>>101878450
Holofags aren't on this board anymore. What you're seeing are liggers doing what they do best and try to keep the competition down. Crabs in a bucket style.

>>101878392
>falseflagging
What part of "they weren't even pretending to be chumbuds" didn't you understand? It was so blatant that the complete lack of any moderation in her VOD comments was a semi-frequent topic of discussion in her thread.
Maybe try taking a look for yourself and learning a bit about the subject being discussed instead of just parroting things you hear on the catalog, so you aren't talking out of your ass as much?

>>101878551
Why did she and Gura talk about gardening after Gura graduated, and why did Saba raid her after her stream was over?

blessed be the chicken lady,
i hope she be chillin despite the shitty fishtism

>>101878739
Why did she stream over Saba's debut and had a meltdown when Saba was mentioned in chat? Looks like Kiara changed her tune because she got jealous

>>101878739
They're trying to keep in touch, like people do with ex coworkers that inevitably ends up trailing off into nothingness. And the second bit is because while Saba means we'll she's fucking retarded and doesnt understand that her actions will have unintended consequences if she acts spontaneously. You can't do that if you have that size of a following.

>>101878739
it's really sad that kiara seethed so hard she forced saba to raid her

>>101878839
It was scheduled before Gura set the debut time.

>>101878047
>She has a million fans, then goes Karen over a few.
Never ending seethe

>>101878878
if they're such good friends shouldn't she have known? at least stick to your narratives, Jesus

>>101862789 (OP)
Saba raided Kiara and she froze... So they aren't allowed to even acknowledge their existence anymore?

>>101878910
How would I know if they are good friends?

>>101878739
She didnt raid Kiara

>>101872867
if she doesn't nip the pedo thing in the bud, she's fucked anyway in the longrunn

>>101879020
As someone who works in a corporation there are a lot of rules about what you can't say. You go against those rules and you get in deep shit

>>101878910
...Why would they even bother sharing schedules?
They don't work together. Overlaps don't matter.

>>101879086
they matter to kfp apparently

>>101862789 (OP)
what stream was this?

>>101879103
How? Wasn't this thread about saba's fans flooding into Kiara's chat to talk about saba?

>>101879103
Ever heard of the term bird brained? Any kfp that mentioned Saba either hate Kiara or are so dumb they didn't realize what a bind they put her in

>>101879103
Kiara barely lost viewers. More proof sabatards don't affect holoEN because they don't watch anyone else.

why don't streamers understand how chats work? this is like a political streamer getting mad that people won't stop mentioning the president on election night or something.

>>101879215
say what you want about kiara but her regular 1k viewers are very loyal

>>101879272
It was almost 8k.

>>101879272
I recall her having 6k during the saba debacle

>>101878739
>why did Saba raid her after her stream was over
never happened, you mistook some retards bringing up saba after her stream ended for an actual raid

>>101862955
Dooby is a fucking retard, lazy cunt. She's boring as fuck too

>>101863560
>My favorite part about all of this is that Saba made an unofficial raid after her debut to support Kiara.
No she fucking didn't. At what point did she tell everyone to raid Kiara's stream?

>>101862789 (OP)
Imagine how stupid the average person is.
Half the world is dumber than that.

Noooo only give attention to MEEEEEEE only MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE PLEASE ME ATTENTION TO MEEEEEEE

>>101880286
>>101879269
>>101879020
>>101878875
>>101878739
>etc
See how chumpedos continue to lie and defend their bad behavior.

You are now remembering when they spammed about Gura reaching 1mil before FBK

>>101880429
Fubuki is Elira of Hololive. She's a vile cunt

>>101880429
>Hololive jp
sorry i don't care.

>>101880420
>See this thing that only exists in my fevered imagination
I can't anon, I'm not schizophrenic enough
If you'd like an example of something that exists in reality, consider >>101876889

>>101877893
Nimi and doobys fans didn't do this shit. Also Saba didn't raid her which was my main point, she's smarter than that. It's her casual asf fans who had to bring it up.

>>101880429
>now
You've been seething and using that nothingburger as a transparent excuse to shit the catalog for years anon

>>101880817
>Nimi and Dooby's fans didn't do this shit
Oddly specific, considering I never said it was teamates or saplings acting like deranged hyenas in Gura's VOD comments. I didn't bother to check what they were because they're subhumans.

>>101880783
I can't tell if sabatards actually think there was a raid or if you're all > trolling. You watched the debut right? There was no raid. It's just usual chumbud antics.

>>101880530
>>101880651
I love how this thread is full of sabatards saying they've never been obnoxious tards and every time someone mentions an instance of them harassing people it's suddenly based and they totally deserve it.
Why do you even bother denying it? Just admit you harass Vtubers who aren't saba.

>>101880889
>shit the catalog for years anon
The one doing that are cuckbuds

>>101881035
Yes I was just fucking with you, which you deserve for being tribalist dramaniggers.
Yes I watched the debut you're acting like jealous seething women over.
No it was not your chumbogeyman, it was KFP. Green names. As has been pointed out repeatedly.

>>101881176
>I like how every time browns accuse you of robbing the local bank suddenly you point out it was just a normal withdrawal from your own account, why even bother denying robbing the bank then?
>Also the last time you went to the bank was several years ago but... uh...
>... LOOK JUST LET ME SHIT THE CATALOG OKAY
>>101881276
Stop deflecting as hard as you pretend the chumbuds are. Accept accountability for your actions.

>>101874984
>>101875103
t. chumbud

>>101881176
Who the hell has time to shit up the live chat of every hololive talent?

>>101881677
SEA

dont tell the caucasoids this but sea make up a significant portion of the vtuber fanbase, and therefore permeate most fanbases

>>101882072
unfortunate browns cannot afford to support the industry they populate and therefore depend on caucasoids and asians to keep the hobby afloat

>>101882072
Is this what they do between getting killed by earthquakes/tsunami's and volcanic eruptions?

>>101882072
And I'm supposed to be okay with it?

>>101882169
>>101882183
>>101882280
just more a reminder that its stupid to pretend only one fanbase has browns and therefore are the only shitstirrers instead of acknowledging the reality that every faction is infected and therefore will have sperg moments, whether its kfp thinking that unity will be more important than stream/corpo rules, or chumbuds thinking that gloating about milestones to coworkers in the same company is acceptable

Kek

>>101882410
>Fuck you we'll keep spamming
Cumbuds ara amazing

>>101862809
They live in fear with the creatures they created. Can't even reach out of their bubble with retards here and in their chats throwing a fit.

>>101877857
Next they'll say that "this is the internet!" and try to justify how they have no accountability with the shit they say.

>>101875737
>>STILL clinging to shit that happened five years ago
Retardchama, if his point is that chumbuds have a history of dumb shitheads, being up events from 5 years ago isn't "clinging to shit" it's making his case lol

>>101882524
Did it come to you in a dream

>>101882754
The fact that he feels the need to spam catalog threads with this what could generously be called a "point' in the first place shows that he's clinging to a faggy grudge from five years ago.
And if he has to dig back five whole years for scraps of a nothingburger because that's all the evidence he can find, then he's doing a pretty terrible job of making his case. In fact I'd say he's making the opposite case by mistake.

>>101876260
>american makes a mcdonalds analogy
Every fucking time

>>101878739
>why did Saba raid her after her stream was over?
she didn't, her fans just went over after the stream ended and called it a raid but there was no raid
kinda like this image with nimi and gg

>>101883003
Well we don't need to go back 5 years now anymore, considering it just happened again.
It's not even maliciousness. These seem to be retarded children who have no idea what the hell they're doing. You should be gettting angry at them with the rest of us, or at least supporting better moderation, not defending their absurd behavior.

>>101862789 (OP)
>Vtuber fans have no subtlety
Outing yourself as a vtuberanti on the very first post, at least try to be, ironically, subtle about it.

>>101884385
>Considering it just happened again
What, KFP aggravating their own oshi like they did by endlessly spamming Bottom Left? What on earth makes you think I'm defending that? I just won't support tribalist catalogmonkeys shitting the catalog by falsely accused me of doing what the actual retards actually did.

>>101862789 (OP)
>Don't they realize how rude this is?
Does the stream have a rule that specifically states NOT to talk about reincarnated ex-holo members? No? Then fuck off.
Yes, there is a secret rule where they can't do that, but expecting everyone to know about it is fucking stupid, especially because some of Saba's fanbase is made up of tourists.

>>101862789 (OP)
Kiara is a retard with no consideration or subtlety so she gets what she gives.

gura beating cover so bad that they ceased to exist outside of japan in any meaningful way was bound to hurt somebodys feelings

>>101862789 (OP)
Will this sour the friendship between Kiara and Saba? I hope not.

>>101884658
>Does the stream have a rule that specifically states NOT to talk about reincarnated ex-holo members? No? Then fuck off.
oh wow, I just realized this retard Kiara doesn't actually have chat rules listed in her description like everybody else with a brain.

How the hell did she survive this long? Posting your chat rules on every stream is the bare minimum you can do to control your chat.

>>101884764
gloating about gura beating kiara (lmao) is like gloating about mori beating some random 1 view

>>101884658
>retard needs to be explicitly told not to talk about other topics/vtubers unprompted
you guys are not going to beat the autist allegations

>>101862789 (OP)
Wow people are retarded and rude, no common sense at all

>>101884805
you'd think kiara would improve after 4 years but nah

>>101884658
>>101884788
>>101884804

>>101884873
>3 different posts blaming 3 separate parties
>clearly this is a samefag

>>101884873
what even leads an assumedly human being to make this thought process?

>>101868186
>falseflag
you mean history, newfag

>>101884798
she literally destroyed the whole english roster of hololive just by brushing it off her shoulders, the smart ones are moving to japan where cover is still relevant and rest will be working in mcdonalds next year

>>101883003
>has to dig back five whole years
Well, the last 3 of those 5 years she never streamed so there's barely anything to use...

>>101863260
That's just holodrones in general but I guess they don't like it when the shoe is on the other foot.

>>101869174
ikr? fuck kfp

>decides to stream over her supposed "friends" debut
so much for unity huh

>hints non stop that she knows Gura is coming back
>Streams directly over her debut
Are euro-skanks really this retarded or is it just her?

>>101862896
It should've been ME MEMEMEMEMEME ME, not HER HER!HER! HER! HER!

Chumbuds already had this high horse attitude because most of the ones posting here are part of them because they were the biggest team. This inflates their ego. None of it was about Gura or now Saba. It’s about being ‘with’ the biggest team to feel a sense of superiority over the others.
Because if you were actually a fan you’d be in /same/ and not in threads like this or in other splits.
Same goes for those in other chats

>>101884912
>>101884924
>samefags never use conflicting opinions in their samefagging
Do your reps

>>101885268 (me)
disregard that, i suck cocks

>>101884943
That falseflag was different, namely Dravidians (You) falseflagging as actual human beings

>>101885213
>admits they aren't chumbuds
>also chumbuds le BAD because [shit the non-chumbuds did]
So who is your "oshi" and why are you here and not her general?

>>101885213
Sorry I forgot there's a rule you're only allowed to post in 1 thread at a time

>>101865296
I would. I was there to watch Kiara, not some fishy retard who thought repeating "paper boat" was the height of comedy.

I'm going to keep talking about "goobidiba" but don't you dare talk about her to me.
fucking woman

>>101885356
Did you read? I never said they weren’t.
They associate with you all the same. I’m just calling their intentions for what they are. Also don’t you worry I’m mostly in my own split, >>101885365 is right.
I just wonder why one of yours is in their too just to post about Saba though.

>>101863099
or people want merch of an entertainer they like

>>101862896
i'm pretty sure she doesn't really care

>>101885573
don't care what they associate with they're not chumbuds

I think you guys just like getting mad at stuff

>>101885600
If people that are wearing you team’s shirt and shouting your chants go and harass others and make asses of themselves it’s going to reflect on that team.
If that bothers you it’s up to you people to self police that.

>>101885799
hey cool it with the antisemitism

>>101862789 (OP)
Who cares what kiara thinks? Saba was about to debut and everyone needs to know

>chumfags act the way they always do, complete fuckwits
>naplings "raid" gigi chat
Teammates and Hoomans were the good ones.

>The whole point of "watching" Kiara is actually to read her chat for more important going-ons in vtuber culture
LOL poor krautwawa

>>101885961
kekfeet identified

>>101871718

>>101885799
do you realize how many fucking normies wear jerseys/band shirts that don't even know what they are? yes we don't associate

>>101862789 (OP)
But who cares about the idol culture nonsense. They're Western. Saba didn't raid anything. It was fans with good intentions. They're friends in real life. Please. Stop being autistic.

>>101886181
Nta but you seriously believe your indie V-tubers is something normies pay any attention too?
Just another example of a cumbie/kani’s inflated ego.

>>101886432
? this retard brought up team shirts, its a shit comparison anyway

>>101878160
that's why people call her a snake sometimes, this being only one of the reasons. it's not direct or that common, but it does happen again and again where her fans go over the board (like harassing and doxxing some fan of hers who debuts as a vtuber or some random indie whose model is insipred by gura) and she does nothing, just makes a tweet with some "lul so randumb xD" nonsense and carries on like everything is fine. Actions speak louder than words, and gura has shown over the years that she's completely fine with her fans harassing others, especially if that someone is a potential rival/competitor (like bijou from what I've seen or that aforementioned fan, some indies etc).

>>101886565
Get off the board for a bit bro, take a break. Your brain is way too rotted to be healthy

>>101884788
>How the hell did she survive this long?
Austria is a high-trust society.

>>101886565
Seek help.

>>101886036

>>101862799
>>101873315
This isn't just Cumbuds, it's Holobrowns in general.
I remember watching Lulu in 2020 before even HoloEN existed and seeing some retard in the chat saying "Subara is streaming," mistyped and all.
They only got worse from there.

>>101862789 (OP)
>Anti thread
>Bump limit
This board is cooked