Thread 101932932

Why don't more vtubers stream on twitch?

You can simucast on YouTube and twitch for months now so there's nothing preventing them from getting free income by doing this.

>>101932932 (OP)
I don't know why anyone streams on twitch.

They can't handle the banter of twitch chat.

>>101932969
It's the canonical streaming website with a primarily white gamer user base.

>>101932932 (OP)
Twitch market is already saturated.

>>101932932 (OP)
Twitch is too trigger happy with Vtubers unless you know someone from the staff side.

>>101932932 (OP)
their dirt poor SEA viewerbase can't watch them there

>>101932932 (OP)
Tradition at this point. I prefer watching on youtube because the ads are easier to block but it's probably harder to be naturally discovered since people go on youtube to see videos over streams.

>>101932981
The thing about twitch chat is it can get a little chaotic, and not to mention unhinged

>>101933000
it's a tranny website with tranny mods hosting tranny events
the pennies you earn from subjecting viewers to 18 hours of ads is not worth having to deal with twitch trannies in your community
Even the good streamers there like Vinny Vinesauce eventually have to deal with tranny gayops trying to cancel them over some psychotic shit like not showing their trans pride vinnychu fanart on stream

>>101933041
Trigger happy?
>>101933042
Most vtuber fans are Hispanic/Brazilian.

>>101933101
back to /pol/ schizo

>>101933104
Twitch bans vtubers for any reason.

>>101933041
Shylily called out.
>>101933125
Back to your trooncord faggot.

Twitch culture is the league of legends type many of us are desperately trying to avoid.

>vtuber
>virtual youtuber
>twitch
there are no vtubers on twitch and there never will be

>>101932932 (OP)
>Why don't more vtubers stream on twitch?
more vtubers stream on twitch than youtube, (you) just don't watch them.

I assume OP is baiting since 99% of vtubers already do stream there and the only ones who don't are either JPs because no jap uses that site, or established vtubers who are simply big enough to not have to rely on twitch for numberfaggotry.

I really hope twitch continues cracking down on vtubers though, nobody who is willing to sell their soul and stream on that shithole deserves any viewers.

>>101933125
>gets called out
>"you can LEAVE now!!!"

faggot

>>101932932 (OP)
Everybody hates twitch because ads.

>>101933101
holoseethe

>>101932932 (OP)
>Why don't more vtubers stream on twitch?
nu-hololive looks like they eventually will.(Kiara, Ina and Kronii please graduate)

>>101932932 (OP)
There are 500x more vtubers on Twitch than on Youtube. Next question

>>101933221
>Can't handle the banter
Sad!

Why do holofags hate twitch?

>>101932932 (OP)
Youtube is perceived as a wholesome platform for cute girls and cute girl fans to enjoy watching video game streams and idol activities.

Twitch is perceived as a disgusting haven of fleshtubers that sell lewd leering at their bodies for funds and Just Chatting and React sloptent.

>>101933101
wut

>>101933125
What's schizo about this?

>>101933717
Why limit it to fleshtubers?
Shylily, Snuffy and Zentraya exist, just to name three among the other 20+ sexually suggestive Z-cup models that prove whoring yourself out isn't exclusive to people like Amouranth.

I don't stream on Twitch because they don't keep VODs and I like keeping the little library of games I've played.
Plus I like seeing in my analytics that someone clicked on part 3 of x game a day ago from a vod I put up a year ago.

>>101932932 (OP)
Twitch is a faggot who gets very upset if you give preferential treatment to any other streaming platform or encourage people to use said streaming platforms. Twitch insists you prioritize it and its chat above other chats if you stream on there. To do otherwise is against the rules.

Twitch is too white for vtubers

>>101933876
Twitch chat is the best chat because it's 4chanian
YouTube is reddit hugbox chat.

>>101932932 (OP)
The expression "Twitch whores" exists for a reason

>>101933104
Hispanic (spanish speaking) and Brazilians are in America and Europe, retarded muttchama
SEA is Indonesia, Philippines etc... in fucking southeast ASIA
Don't compare boludos and viados with seamonkeys ever again

>>101932932 (OP)
My oshi simucasts and her Twitch chat is dead most of the time.

>>101933327
towa uses it a lot but she's literally a twitch whore

>>101933952
because /#/ is full of mentally ill indonesian teenagers?

Only worthless whores like towa are drawn to twitch streaming

>>101933717
>>101933820
The core demographics of twitch are white European and American gamers who watch esports/ video game streams.

This probably doesn't overlap with vtubers much.

>>101932932 (OP)
the numbers say they do

>>101932981
spamming monkaS on cooldown is not banter

>>101933976
You are not better than other thirdies Juan/Joao
Learn your place

>>101933902
>white
not with that nose LMAOOOOOOOOO

>>101933976
You will NEVER be an American.

>>101934135
Saba isn't on twitch. They want me to dox myself on YouTube to troll their chat.

>>101933101
>>101934185

>>101934188
It's hilarious to hear people argue that vtubers aren't just flesh streamers with an anime grifting mechanism added in

>>101934161
This is very funny when you notice that every screenshot in /#/fag seethe threads about westoid western white twitch whores has the stream paused

Last time I went to a simulcast stream the streamer was clearly only looking at the twitch chat. I left.

>>101934161
How's that different than YouTube?? Bandwidth is bandwidth.

>>101934211
Twitch made Saba

>>101934253
As it should be.

>>101934286
probably the same reason twitch pulled out of korea, they charge obscene isp fees.

>>101934121
Because vtubers, as in virtual youtubers, was at first a Japanese thing, and Japs don't use Twitch. When western women learnt about vtubing they, as is typical for western women, just used it as an excuse to attract more simps with their virtual avatars while remaining e-whores at the heart. Naturally they like Twitch more because Twitch is full of 3D whores, so 2D whores feel at home there. Who are the faces of Youtube vtubers? Hololive, ex-holo and ex-niji indies. Who are the faces of Twitch vtubers? Women like Shylily, Bao, Cottontail, Saruei, etc - and all of them make adult content

>>101934365
Oh right I remember thirdies seething about this. Twitch chat really cleaned up after it

>>101934544
picking cottontail instead of mouse, neuro or fillian is definitely not cherrypicking

>>101934544
Vtubers are just flesh streamers with an anime avatar anon. Their fanbases are delusional otakus so they pretend to be innocent

>>101934544
Do you think fans of vtubers aren't also simps?

>>101934286
The icons at the bottom are listing out what sites you can use without having them cut into your allowed bandwidth. In the third tier Youtube is included. Twitch is not included in any of them. That means they can watch Youtube for free, but Twitch would eat through their data.

They literally can not afford to watch Twitch streams, which is why they get so console wars-y over the platforms.

>>101934544
Vtubers are just flesh streamers with an anime avatar anon.

>>101932932 (OP)
Because of the ads, the controversy of all of the political streamers, the shifty twitch chat culture that promotes them talking about random other creators instead of the streamer or the stream, the clear anti vtuber bias that the moderation team has, the terrible discovery system that its users pretend isn't shit as it funnels viewers only to the biggest names on the platform who aren't even vtubers, the misinformation about how simulcasting is simple and easy when in reality twitch will punish you if you don't do things exactly the way their authoritarian leadership wants which they can change their mind at any point in time to kill your channel, the lack of a vod system, the lack of membership streaming possibilities, and I'm sure the list goes on with things I don't even know about.

>>101932932 (OP)
IDK why either, youtube SUUUUUUCKS for growth, name a single indie who has made it big on youtube

>>101934858
>the clear anti vtuber bias that the moderation team
Proof?

>>101934677
>Mouse
I should have mentioned Vshojo in general, that has members like Melody and Kson
>Neuro
Fine by herself, but her orbiters are disgusting
>Filian
She's fine, but she's more of an exception
>>101934775
>>101934802
I watch vtubers to maintain that illusion. If I wanted to jerk off I wouldn't buy some 2D whore's Fansly or become her patron. *Especially* if it's flesh content, just be a 3D whore then

>>101934880
When they don't ban the women who intentionally are shilling their only fans shit while wearing next to nothing but ban vtubers for having an exposed gstring on their hips from their pants there's clear bias

>>101932932 (OP)
only retards like ironmouse stream on twitch

>>101935062
Ohh you're mad because sexualization of children isn't allowed on twitch and only gets a pass on YouTube because they literally don't moderate anything except via algorithms

>>101934928
>it's fine if she's a titty streamer under another name
>if it's on another site with the same name she's a whore though
classic

>>101935106
I see you're falling back on the strategies you use on Twitter, a shame, I thought I was talking to a human being open to a back and forth so both parties could learn something but I guess not.

>>101935133
What the hell are you talking about?

>>101935157
Knew it was an undesirable type seething about based twitch.

>>101932932 (OP)
>Simulcast
You can get banned on Twitch if you say thanks or acknowledge to a superchat from YouTube.

>>101935689
So try not doing that.
Twitch invented internet Livechat
YouTube is a shitty hugbox based on doxing

>>101935689
No, it says you can't merge chat, which is how it should be

>>101934880
>2 seconds of vtuber hip on stream = ban
>Thot in a micro-bikini sitting on a transparent plastic chair with camera pointed up towards her asshole = no ban
wHEre's tHe bIAS!!11? Go dive in a vat of acid redditfag.

>Twitchtards acting up
subhumans have no rights. back to your hugbox

>>101935831
>NOOOO I should be able to sexualize children

>>101935740
>Twitch invented internet Livechat
Way to out yourself as a newfag

>>101935860
Twitch chat is 4chanian, YouTube chat is the reddit hugbox

>>101935910
They popularized it if not invented it and IRC wasnt live chat alongside a video

>>101935891
>Twitchfag can't stop thinking about sexualizing chidren
Whatever you say Pedotroon

>>101935980
Post this vtuber who got banned for said g string
I'd bet good money she is underage.
Inb4 you try to cope and pick an adult one to cover up

>>101935764
>such as merging chat and other features
Missing the last part?

>>101935921
it is impressive that a twitch retard like you managed to type something without spamming emotes
that doesn't make your zoged platform any better tho. now go cry to your fury troon mod

>>101936000
Begging for children to sexualize now? go neckyourself pedophile.

>>101936002
>Zogged
Kek JewTube is far more Jewish retard

lolifags seethe about based twitch. This Is Noted

How the fuck do you simp for a streaming website.
Seriously, everytime there's a thread about YouTube, like when they claim a stream, people shit on them.
But say that Twitch is unjustly banning vtubers, promoting terrorism and being a camwhore site, the twitchdrones come out and start inventing all kind of excuses. It's embarrassing.

>>101932932 (OP)
Is this thread seriious?
Twitch just sucks

>>101936166
You can't handle the banter of twitch chat and need a JewTube hug box, the reddit of streaming services

>>101936000
https://x.com/LucyPyre_/status/1928971976451731637

>>101936226
>>101936166
t. Filtered SEAs

>>101936237
What the fuck are you talking about?
I'm a lurker anyway, who would I banter with?

>>101936237
spamming the reddit frog is not banter retardo

>>101932932 (OP)
unless you're a partner they take a 50% cut, then add taxes and the streamer loses too much. yt is a better deal out of the gate.

>>101934253
The twitch ToS are kinda vague but threatening about it.
>When you are streaming live on the Twitch Services you may simultaneously live stream or broadcast (“Simulcast”) on any other network, platform, or service that supports live streaming of user generated content, only if:
>You ensure that the quality of Twitch users’ experience of your Simulcast is, at a minimum, no less than the experience on other platforms or services, including by your engagement with the Twitch community, for example, via chat.
>You do not provide links, or otherwise direct your community, to leave Twitch for your simulcast on other services because we value the community on Twitch and the integral role community engagement plays for all Twitch users.
It's unclear enough that I'd be nervous to go "thanks for the sub/supa" to the youtube stream lest Twitch slap my shit for engaging "more" with the youtube chat.

>>101935764
ive seen a few do it though.

>>101936262
On my phone so I'll check this later, I bet it's borderline CSEM

>>101934230
>>101933000
It's funny that you underage retards think this matters when the US is now 40% white at best. It doesn't help either that the most popular streamers on twitch are disgusting animals like kai cenat.

>>101936237
Repeating your nonsensical point ad nauseam doesn't magically make it true.

Twitch culture is shit, with the constant noises and interruptions.
The site is also ass in general.

>>101932932 (OP)
Twitch is your urban center while youtube is suburbia.
In other words, we don't want to live in the twitch inner city because we're fleeing from black and brown twiggers and the liberal lgbtq cucks that worship them.

>>101932932 (OP)
Like who? Hololive? Vspo, Nijisanji and Hololive all have Twitch streamers.
Simulcasting is a different beast because twitch doesn't allow any other chat on screen than twitch only.
You also have forced ads or are forced to run a certain amount of ads per hour. If you'd actually disable your adblock you would know that for most Holomems they only have prerolls and endrolls and YT only forces an ad at hour 6.

>>101933000
>primarily white

>>101934544
The Japanese use the Japanese equivalent of twich , niconico.
You'd be surprised how many well known vtubers were tittystreamers or asmr porn sellers.

>>101932932 (OP)
Cultural divide. Twitch "culture" is dogshit. Lazy, dramawhoring and spammy, not to mention filled with underages and browns. Not like you can't curate it but it takes way more work to find a tolerable twitch chat than a tolerable youtube chat, plus the ads on Twitch are WAY fucking worse.

>>101934121
"Twitch whore" predates vtubers and this entire board newfag

>>101936444
>Even the twitch terms sound like they're seething at youtube

>>101936641
Saba isn't on twitch so in my mind no vtuber is. Pretty sure gura wasn't on twitch either.

>>101937014
Twitch is far whiter than YouTube.

>>101937214
G4Y

>>101934230
whoosh

>>101935891
>drawings are children
I really wonder (who) is behind this post

>>101935891
As long as you're not fucking actual children who the fuck cares?
Let people fap to what they want if noone was harmed in the production.

>>101937566
No dude, we need literal stripping, "pool" streams and drag queens and "body painting" on our platform. Drawings? Too extreme.

>>101936925
Bro, I don't care about NND or vtubers' past. Someone can delude themselves into thinking there's a pure virgin maiden that has never acted lewd or interacted with males on stream and then be surprised when they find out she has/had a boyfriend or whatever. What I care about is the present. I've made a conscious choice to not watch vtubers that use their 2D avatar to promote adult flesh content on other resources generate such content directly. And the facts are this is what the majority of big Twitch vtubers does. Such is the culture of Twitch vtubing.

I don't watch youtube vtubers because youtube is only for slop like mrbeast and the cancerous mrbeast culture permeates their streams.

>>101932932 (OP)
It's crap for actual vtubers since the archive system is dogshit.
Plus the twitch user base is god awful in comparison to the youtube user base.

>>101937447
>>101937566
>>101937627
>I'm only attracted to cartoon children, r-really
sure anon.

>>101937909
>>101937742
YouTube is brown
Twitch is white

Buy an ad for twitch faggot.

even the whores are better on youtube than on twitch

>>101933101
>>101933125
The degenerate shit is far worse on Twitch but the website does suffer from the Roblux curse. Too many of the mods are pedophile groomers that won't do anything to stop other pedophile groomers. There are good vtubers on Twitch but the website isn't safe for children.

Twitch advertisement department is getting desperate huh?

>>101935689
Not true. What you can't do is ignore twitch in favor of another platform. You have to read and acknowledge them equally

>>101938163
You're the pedophiles though, twitch shuts down your lolishit and it makes you seethe.

>>101938973
where do you think you are?

>>101932932 (OP)
bvecause it's shit
fuck off

>>101935689
Huh. Does Youtube have any similar rules or is it just twitch that shits its pants over youtube existing? That would explain why nobody wants to dual stream though.

>>101935764
>which is how it should be
Why?

>>101939583
the twitchniggers should be ignored

>>101936516
No amount of argument will topple that you're defending an Indian botfest website. Stay mad thirdie.

>>101939583
Twitch is the only good chat. All others are hugboxes, twitchchat is full of banterlords

>>101937408
tunaktunak

>>101939716
kek saved

>>101932969
Fpbp
Twitch is shit.

>you can simucast
You are forbidden from interecting qith other platforms chats.
Most streamers that simucast hurt their youtube channel since the youtube streams have to be ignored.

>>101933943
Isn't "cuck" and "simp" banned in Twitch chat? How can anyone say it's not a hugbox?

>>101934188
I would agree with this if your oshi doesn't at least try to play the character. If they are just "streamer with an anime filter" then it is no different.

>>101935689
I didn't know this, another reason Twitch is dog shit.

>>101935891
If you care about kids so much, get off here and get into law enforcement. Otherwise, this is just you trying to virtue signal.

Every time I see a Twitch chat it's just endlessly spamming emotes.

>>101932932 (OP)
Twitch is for anything but video games. Zatsu content, react content, talking about being a whore, IRL streams even if you're a Vtuber. Some people like playing video games while chat does more then spam emotes.

Or maybe it's the fact Twitch culture is influenced negatively by its massive political streamers and no one wants those viewers.

Good thread lads

>>101941423
I get pissed at NorthernLion's chat because although he's obviously a typical Canadian lib, it's full of Hasan faggots bitching about wypipo. It's a bit less with Twitch chuubas but still, you can spot those fuckers

>>101941563
Also dead giveaways "treatlerite", "hogs", fuck my blood pressure is going up

>>101941423
To go with this, Twitch isn't even a game streaming platform. Either they never called themselves that or they rebranded years ago because you won't find any mention of a vidya specific focus anywhere on the website.

>>101932932 (OP)
because it's 2025 now? why don't you post on facebook?

>>101932932 (OP)
Twitch is fucking garbage and run by woke freaks who let people like Hasan use it.

>>101932932 (OP)
Some girls don't want to deal with the people from there, it isn't that complicated.

>>101932932 (OP)
When was the last time you even heard anyone talk about TwitchCon? Exactly. Toward the end it was basically just a bunch of no-name third-rate streamers showing up.

>>101941423
>IRL streams even if you're a Vtuber
You can't do IRL streams and be a vtuber. You've gotta pick one.

>>101933000
woah... so whites are... consuming that?

>>101942262
Cope

>>101941825
>>101941423
>/pol/tards seething because there's some leftists on twitch

>>101932932 (OP)
People who don't like Twitch *really* don't like Twitch, and they've done nothing to fix it.

>>101943788
It's not just "some leftists" it is literal muslim terrorist supporting pedophile freaks who should be executed with a bullet to the head, but at very minimum should have been banned a long time ago. If the people who run the website endorse that kind of content and won't ban them why would I use the site? The best vtubers don't use it anyways. I'm not the one seething, you're seething that your shithole site is dying lol.

>>101947751
take meds schizo

>>101947998
The streamers I'm talking about openly endorse hamas, openly have talked about lowering age of consent, openly support trannies which have sky high per capita rates of child molestation, etc. There are no meds to be taken, you are a fucking retard trying to gaslight people.

>>101948167
>>>/pol/

>>101948224
You can't pussy out and say "go to /pol/" when you asked why people don't use twitch and I told you why. It's just literal facts. YOU started the conversation.

>>101948278
nobody cares about your schizo rants retard

>>101941825
Shouldn't Asmongold, King of Chuds balance it out?

>>101948343
>it's schizophrenia to mention things Hasan has just openly stated himself
Lol, lmao, keep trying to gaslight people, it's not working, you're losing big time, and Twitch is dying.

>>101948347
No, because the people who run the site are wokoids who will get very ban happy on people like him and completely ignore the shit that Hasan does.

What this tells me is that I don't want my money or clicks in any way contributing towards the success of their site, period. If I ever feel like watching asmongold I can find the recordings elsewhere.

>>101948401
>>101948470
>i dont like twitch because of <schizo nazi /pol/tard reasons> so that's why some vtubers dont use it
do the mentally ill really?

>>101948494
Far left islamic radical freakazoids are not as popular outside your tranny discord echo chambers as you think.

>>101932932 (OP)
Twitch has a retarded vendetta against vtubers that aren't normie tier popular

>>101948589
your seethe and schizoness has no relevance to vtubers

>>101948649
ah you're mad about the "can't sexualize children" rule

>>101932969
i only watch twitch for tournaments.

>>101948777
>vtubers see that twitch is full of tranny wokies and hasan piker supporters
>decide they will not stream there
Not complicated.

>>101948877
nobody cares except schizos like you
the reason they avoid twitch is because they want a hugbox chat or want to prioritize youtube

Discoverability on twitch is fucking awful, UI/UX sucks, VOD situation sucks, userbase is fucking insufferable, monetization REALLY sucks as it doesn't scale nearly as well as YouTube. Rule enforcement on twitch is complete shit, too. Garbage platform, makes YouTube look golden (and YouTube is fucking shit too, just not *as* shit as Twitch)

>>101948939
>nobody cares except schizos like you
You keep using the word schizo like the gaslighting is going to work, but unfortunately for you, every day your insane leftoid ideology is losing ground with the young people. A lot of people seem to care actually. Care is increasing. Hope that explanation helps! I'm closing the thread now.

>>101949002
>userbase is fucking insufferable
can't handle the banter

>>101949002
>userbase is fucking insufferable
need a hugbox?
>Rule enforcement on twitch is complete shit, too
t. mad his lolishit gets shut down
UX is superior
>discoverability
meme
>vod situation
true
>monetization
they just pretend they don't get money from ads

>>101949145
>>101949192
hasan watchers

>>101949214
leftists have shit banter
i watch cs and other white european esports with banter-hardened lads on twitch, the 'gog and hltv

>>101933087
that's good though

>>101932932 (OP)
test.....

>>101932932 (OP)
>Why don't more vtubers stream on twitch?
Twitch has already dominated by a literal cartel of the top 1% indies by occupying the front page of every popular category and brain draining all the artists all vtubers rely on from the indie scene via spamming more random shit because they can afford it, setting back and trapping small indies in the beginning stages and destroy anyone they want with their legions of fanatic crusading cultists worshiping them as a goddess that can do no wrong and is always right. Remember Sinder? The cartel dogpiled her because the evidence Shylily and Nano provided had Red and Sinder state the cartel's behavior in a matter of fact way so Sinder had to be silenced and discredited at once to keep up the facade. Shylily didn't see this reaction coming, hence she was preparing for a very long back and forth between her and Sinder, and she heard the message loud and clear to watch her mouth. Smaller vtubers in that friend group got so intimidated they went "You know what? I don't want to go big anymore. In fact I might filter my viewership on purpose from now holy shit!".
>simucast on YouTube and twitch
Only the ones that don't actually interact with their chats at all and the ones with very small chats do, otherwise trying to keep track of two chats at once is too much.

>>101949192
Nobody besides bots watches those ads. Daddy Amazon will realize this sooner or later.

>>101949145
>banter was mentioned 10 times in this thread
What banter is this retard talking about? Am I crazy?

>>101953487
How new?

>>101933125
Nothing Scitzo here

>>101953646
If by banter you mean chat bullying the streamer, that happen on YouTube too. Not to mention, it varies from channel to channel, because you have the ability to curate your audience. What banter are we talking about?

>>101949145
Banter = emoji spam