HoloEN decreasing their merch stocks, looks like Nerissa and CC not selling out did real damage

grim, gura really was carrying the whole branch

>>101986852 (OP)
>>101986886
>Loses to this on her debut week
Grim

>>101986886
Gura very rarely sold merch compared to the other girls, falseflagger-chama.

gura still sold out whenever she did do merch

>>101986928
>3d live with several members raiding in
>1 silly re4 stream
yes, grim

>>101987120
Your cope sustains me

>>101986852 (OP)
what happens when they dont sell out merch? does the talent just shoulder the costs?

>>101986852 (OP)
Meanwhile Kronii's last limited sold out JP size of stock

Nerissa did everything she could these past 6 months to drive away fans save for collabing with males.

CC streams at EU times and that will NEVER EVER be a reliable base of paying customers, if she streamed at primetime NA, she'd have more paying fans.

>>101987156
Yes, Mio talked about it when she had to beg her fans to buy her merch that if they didn't sell out, she would have to buy out the rest.

>>101987473
proof or faggot

>>101987381
>Nerissa did everything she could these past 6 months to drive away fans
like what

>>101987381
didnt cc used to stream at NA/JP time?
which was also when she was the second most subscribed in justice

They know they're not selling shit to North America because of tariffs

>>101987473
Wouldnt half of costs (and profits) be on Cover tho since they pitch in half for merch?

>>101987568
>Doesn't do karaoke anymore
>Never was a big gamer but has dropped off even more than that. When she did game she would often look up strategies beforehand, in the case of FF7 which many were looking forward too, she watched all the cutscenes in one of those YT compilations beforehand so she wasn't even invested when she played. Dropped it.
>Spends WAY too much time trying to appease the LGBTQ Twitter clique who don't even watch streams
>Doesn't do a lot of members stuff
>Members stuff that she does do is basically zatsu which she does normally
>Her zatsus are the same 3-4 topics she loops about all the time, never tells people what she's up too
>Dropped schedules
>DOESNT FUCKING SING
>Noticeably sandbags collabs, every Advent collab she just goes off on her own/dies so she doesn't have to play the game or talk to others

>>101986852 (OP)
Gura was the one carrying most of the branch on her own.

>>101987652
No? She's always streamed at like 12 PST 3 EST which is when everyone is at work/school. I know people like to meme about everyone being NEETs but the fact is most people have stuff to do when she's live. And the people who have jobs are more likely to be able to spend for merch.

>>101987787
>No Gura No buy
>Instantly sell out 12k tickets

>>101986886
fpbp

Only diehards with shit oshis are left. Everyone normal doesn't watch any hololive EN anymore because the best ones got fired.

>>101987151
LOL, what cope? Anon, are you really comparing a BIRTHDAY 3D CONCERT with multiple guests with a regular ass solo let's play?
Pot calling the kettle black, anyone? Who's the one coping?

>>101987151
She teased Suisei but not even that helped.

>>101987927
God you're mad.

>>101987381
CC's limited merch is sold out on geekjack which is what EU anons use. It would probably help if the holostore didn't just use DHL for their huge shipping price

>>101987843
It’s probably gonna be a ghost town on the day.
Most people are likely asking for refunds after finding out Gura’s not showing up.

>>101988012
Screencapping this

>>101988012
Agree

>>101988012
and other fantasies you come up with to cope

>>101986852 (OP)
isn't the limited edition shit stuff they have to sign by hand so she's just saying she said fuck it to signing a ton extra

>>101988012
The concert was announced after gura graduated

>>101987732
Literally an entire month of just chatting streams. And before that it was an entire month of hotpot chatting streams with ENReco being the only non-chatting livestream she did. And 3 months ago? That was March, remember. She played Monster Hunter Wilds and Inzoi and the rest of the month was JUST CHATTING.

>>101988113
You really think scalpers know about that?

>>101988012
Who the fuck buys tickets expecting gura when they know Gura was already gone?

ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME

>>101987156
>>101987473
Why, is there a time limit on it? Just leave it up, it'll sell eventually

>>101988133
>homo stream got 10x the views of her usual streams
the absolute state of jailbirds

>>101988133
cringe family shit
yap yap yap
watchalongs

some drops of games and advent collabs....

why is she the most subbed in advent?

>>101987156
no, the reason they limit the time you have to order stuff and it takes 6+ months to ship is it's all preorders.

>>101988133
>>101987732
>>101987381
Nerissa is 100% fighting some demons we don't know about. The thumbnails got incredibly lazy as well, she does not try to hype up her own songs, not even the ones in collabs.
She's not fine.

>>101988267
Her voice is the best. People probably use her for the same thing they once used FM radio for.

>>101988325
I think she just gave up being a vtuber and wants to be a Twitch THOT.

>>101988325
guess we need to change who we suspect will be the next to go in en

kronii bae shiori cc nerrisa?

>>101988436
But you can't be a twitch thot if you don't stream on twitch...

>>101988493
That's why she's depressed. Her contract is keeping her from becoming the next Pokimane or Amouranth.

>>101986852 (OP)
>HoloEN decreasing their merch stocks, looks like Nerissa and CC not selling out did real damage
How the fuck you exaggerate from that to the negative? Are you that bitter?

>>101988524
What are you even talking about?

>>101986852 (OP)
>kiara did less quantity than usual
>HOLOEN, ENTIRE holoEN decreasing their merch stock !!!

>>101987381
>[insert en holo chuuba here] did everything she could these past 6 months to drive away fans
Repeat again and again

>>101987120
>N-noombers don't count when they don't favor me!!

>>101988267
Probably because of her music, she has 15 covers (one of which was indefinitely taken down) and 4 original songs, also people that subbed thinking she would actually do karaoke and never unsubbed

>>101986928
stop forcing this shit you dumb nigger

>>101986852 (OP)
they know nobody can buy merch when everythings $150 more from shipping and trump bucks

>>101987732
wait, this is the first time i've heard mention of the ff7 thing... that's kinda... insane to me lol.

>>101986852 (OP)
Shouldn't they already be in production by that time? She is a business woman and knew sales were going to be lower with all what's going on.

>>101988225
It'd be false advertising if you do and since cover is apparently full of greedy fucks, they can't do the sensible thing and just not make it limited time only.

It's lunchtime in Jakarta right now. Just thought that was a cool fact.

>>101986852 (OP)
Whats wrong with you???

And it's morning in Europe and Evening in the USA. fucking retard

>>101986935
???
Dino Gura was literally the best selling merch by a wide margin that 2nd place wasn't even close.

>>101989465
It's morning in the USA.

>>101988325
I hope she's fighting for sure, because it's insane that her karaokes are better than her original songs; Cover clearly doesn't give a shit, but forces everyone to use their shitty, overworked music producers anyway, probably as part of some grift.

>>101986852 (OP)
If anyone remembers Kronii having to beg people like 3 times over to buy her birthday merch, or Mori venting about not selling much of her vinyl merch - you'd realize that unicorns are all talk and the HoloEN hype resting mostly on AmeSame

>>101989655
sure, whatever you say flatearther

>>101988472
nerissa's white, the odds were always stacked against her to be the next to graduate in en

>>101988012
>>Most people are likely asking for refunds after finding out Gura’s not showing up.
>Tickets went on sale and sold nearly month AFTER Gura graduated and the same day Saba announced debut date
WDHMBT?

>>101986852 (OP)
seeing less doesn't necessary means they bought less.

>>101988472
>cc
Already?

>>101986852 (OP)
Only for runts. Gigi had 1.6K in total stock just the other day as usual just fine
>>101987156
All of these merch is made for orders, so no
>>101987694
>>101988225
That was a shitpost. Holo merch is only made *after* the order period so there isn’t any "merch that didn’t sell out"

>>101988133
The hotpot streams are hilarious though

>>101990127
Where do you see these numbers?

>>101986928
>viewbots
Grimmer.

>>101989743
I don't know how it works, but I don't think it's a cover's problem since most other stuff sounds fine. I checked say my name, revolution, and neverland, and they all use different people except for 山本こーすけ who worked on both cover's instrumental.

>>101986852 (OP)
You can only buy so many 125-USD hand-towels you never actually use (+90 USD shipping + Tax + tip) before it starts to feel a bit exploitative even for dedicated fans.

>>101990127
>Gigi had 1.6K in total stock
>All of these merch is made for orders
>Holo merch is only made *after* the order period so there isn’t any "merch that didn’t sell out"

You're contradicting yourself you stupid nig.

It sold out in 5 minutes last year and like in 10 this year. It's her own stupid brainworms getting to her plus a fair chunk of her audience being NA and getting smacked with 70 dollars for shipping and like 40 for tariffs essentially doubling the price. She still has a fair amount of EU and JP/KR/SEA fans though. You guys shouldn't use Kiara's self doubt as a barometer for anything.

>>101990691
>10
I meant 1. I managed to get it and had to us my non JP forwarding address.

>>101990691
She literally just didn’t feel like signing shit this time.

>>101987156
they're raped by executives

>>101987473
You and every single newfag that blindly believes your bullshit should fuck off from /vt/ already.

When the FUCK are we getting IDs and flags for fuck's sake.

>>101990407
>Can't use the bot cope on Kiara's live so he had find from a stream that's so old Gura was a still a Hololive member when it aired
KWAB

>>101986852 (OP)
>KFP celebrate Kiara's merch immediately selling out
>It was because there were like 50 sets in stock

KEKAROO

>>101990917
Yeah that's also partially true but I think her own brainworms + tariff shit also factored in

>>101986886
I'm sure it has nothing at all to do with the situation in the US right now surely

>>101990407
Kiara?

OP decreasing his brain cell stocks, looks like pagpag getting eaten did real damage

>>101986928
>/#/

>>101990515
No, I didn’t. All of those merch is made for orders. The limited amount was set based on how many sets Holo members are willing to sign, not how much limited merch is already made.

>>101991986
ESL brownfeet

>>101991109
that's cope

>>101986928
Sameko's streams are kinda dull already, she feels like she lost her touch

>>101987732
>>101988133
Hooooooly shit she's done for

>>101992662
Yeah I felt that too... Not as witty anymore.

>>101988325
No she's not. She's just lazy. She always chooses the path of least resistance. Even when she played games she would always play on the easiest difficulty and whine to chat about how hard it was and "You guys don't mind if I skip this/drop this right?" and chat would always cave and say yes like bitches.

>>101989792
If anything that proves Unicorns aren't all talk because no fucking Unicorns would go anywhere near Kronii or Mori.

>>101992662
RE4 is a shit game to stream and she is trying out a new personality.

>>101987156
Ask Kronii, kek

There's nothing wrong with being brown

chumbuds already autistically raging because nuGura is horrendous... this board is doomed

>>101986852 (OP)
>>101986886
>>101987903
Do you enjoy samefagging yourself?

Cecilia really is a failed holo, I don't get it lol. How can you NOT sell out your fucking anni merch, like that is so incomprehensible. She's so much of a failure that GG had to repost the merch announcement from the official account to bump it up. So much for the /#/ "queen" lmfao. Seriously consider graduating, I hope she is right now.

>>101992317
Retard

>>101986852 (OP)
Why did Kiara feel that she had to say that?

>>101986852 (OP)
hololive can only blame hololive we all sleep in the beds we make

>>101986928
Hololive numberfags turn on ex-Holos. Tale as old as time.

>>101986928
>Challenging Saba's CCV
Saba's views on her VODs will humble anyone.
828k views already on Saba's 41k CCV gaming stream.
Happy for Kiara's 3D Live. She put a lot of money and time into it. But it won't reach nearly that high even a year from now.

>>101994912
>Implying numberfags have any loyalty

>>101989743
>Cover clearly doesn't give a shit, but forces everyone to use their shitty, overworked music producers anyway, probably as part of some grift.

Just talking out your ass? The only ones hamstrung by that is the Vsingers like IRyS used to be or like group songs for projects. The girls can do whatever they want. Just look at Kiara's music

I'm not goign to even read the thread and call you a retard. Holos can pick anything from 0 to unlimited for their limited merch. It's entirely related to how much they want to sign.

>>101991109
>the situation in the US
Fuck, americanbros, don't tell me the BigMacs are on shortage? Call the marines now, this is unacceptable.

>>101987732
>>Members stuff that she does do is basically zatsu which she does normally
that's fairly normal

>>101995046
If they wanted to make their own music from scratch, they wouldn't have joined Hololive at all: its the economies of scale that something like a major company offers that makes the possibility, well, possible in the first place.

Without that, the scales of the costs change wildly: in the thousands of dollars on the low-end, and several hundred thousand dollars on the highest. Almost all of that cost will also be up-front, and there's basically nothing you can do if someone flakes out without the expense/hassle of a lawsuit.

In theory, something like Cover mitigates a lot of that: yearly commissions keep artists basically on retainer, there's actual capital to borrow from (apparently interest-free,) no worries with licensing rights, and internal production is usually consistent. There's a lot of theoretical upside.

But that's the thing, it's theoretical: if management has a nepotism problem that lowers the quality of the work (but not the price,) or if the company decides to keep throwing someone's projects on the back burner because that's making someone with authority within the company happy, then the individual can find themselves stuck in permanent mediocrity.

>>101993536
go back to /choc/

>>101986852 (OP)
Yeah, I'm sure it's that and not the insane tariffs hiking up the price of everything.

>>101986928
Meloco had 120k for her 3D.

>>101986852 (OP)
holos have to buy their own merch if it doesn't sell out
black corpo

>>101996144
>Shit I made up

>>101992317
Lol. You mad, bro? Stop being a newfag and learn a thing or two about how merch is made before speaking next time.
>>B-b-brownfeet!

>>101996190
Bootlicker

>>101996196
>I'm not brownfeet i'm just a Flip
Is it supposed to be better?

>>101988325
"We need to help her"
Then she leaves hololive and becomes a lazy whore for holodrones

>>101995046
>Kiara's music
Do you really think you have a point here ?

>>101987732
Is something going on IRL? That sounds like depression. Hope she's okay.

>>101986928
>>101994930
Saba popularity will never cease to impress me, it's one of those things that make me feel like I am not on it anymore.

>>101997542
No, she's just lazy and would rather spend all her time doomscrolling twitter, playing Cookie Run Kingdom, and chilling in discord with her oomfs than actually doing her job

>>101997592
That's depression, we are just all too in love with our phones to see the proble,

>>101987927
Still You
If you go by this shitholes sentiments, the messiah of indie vtubing who just debuted and did her first gaming stream lost to me me me me Karen prime having her annual 3D live, COPE

>>101997592
It's the problem of an easy job. If you could get rich with the bare minimum and do whatever you want for most of the day wouldn't you?

>>101997819
I also wouldn't proclaim to love doing the things my job is supposed to entail, only to not do them

>>101991835
>>101994912
>Enters thread numberfagging Kiara's merch
>Gets mad because someone numberfags them back
Sabafags are moist pussies and hypocrites.

I'm convinced that KFPs are as retarded and blind as phaseniggers. Kiara should just join Phase Connect where she belongs.

>>101995670
There are two categories and it seems likely retards are mixing them up. There's the total merch made and then there's the amount of limited sets. The limited sets are completely decided by the talent because it requires them to personally sign each one. In Kiara's case it's likely she didn't want to sign that many this time but maybe she was encouraged not to by her manager.

>>101997323
When did any of them ever said they need to buy unbought merch. Read >>101998685
the only limited thing are talent signatures everything else is made to order.

>Malanin retards ITT already forgetting about tariffs
Delivery costs too expensive? Nah, it has to be chatting streams or something, idk.

>>101987473
>Mio
>Never does limited signed merch
>Even begged staff to put her new signed LE album set back up without a stock limit after it first sold out (which they did)
You couldn't have picked a worse example to falseflag with

>>101991835
slop posting instantly invalidates any point you may or may not have

>>101993818
sorry retard, chumbies love Saba

>>101987381
>EU times and that will NEVER EVER be a reliable base of paying customers
Yeah, thanks to all the damage Cover has done
"Hololive EN" when it's Hololive NA+some Austrian
Never trying to put any effort into the EU market
Offering the worst shipping fees to the EU market
Insulting us by debuting ERB

>>101997556
Yeah, it's just a ceaseless hype wagon

>>102000061
HoloEN means English, retard. Kiara, cc, erb, raora. Seems like your dumbass forgot the other euros.

Y'all don't have enough spending money to market towards, not covers fault for making sound judgements.

>>102001219
>Kiara
started her streams when euros was at work for 4 years
>CC
the only investment into EU
>ERB
panders to flips, doesnt stream and feels like watching your aunt trying to stream
>raora
starts her streams at lunch time
wow what an effort to win over EU

>>102001408
Great. Still Europeans, you stupid sausage finger fuck.

>>102001431
retard

>>101993360
Didnt know wet blanket was a personality

>>102001561
Hella mad lul

>>102001219
The branch started as Hololive English with the lineup I said, but it was Hololive NA+Austrian
Newfag

>>102001577
That was basically Ina in her first year, maybe first two years. Essentially every "comfy" VTubers

>>101992662
Not doing your job for 3+ years deteriorates your skills

>>102000061
Your market does not have enough money. Period. Maybe you personally buy everything, good for you, but your countrymen and your continent as a whole lose to California when it comes to weeb spending shit.

>>102001957
retarded burger
being loud isn't a personality

>>101992662
What touch?
All she did was games and singing.

I'm confused, this reads like Kiara is apologizing that her LE sold out and there's still more demand.

>>102003440
>all the luxury brands are European
>all the important brands are European
>"Your market does not have enough money"
lol

>>102004203
Cool, where is that money when it comes to Vtubers?

Why does this dogshit thread have 150 fucking replies?

>>102004203
All of that shit comes from China lmao

>>102004314
sabapedos are seething. they have nothing else to do since she isn't going to stream again for another 2-3 months

>>101992662
A corpo vtuber that's lazy and/or burnt out doesn't automatically go back to being hardworking and motivated. Once they get into that 'working retirement' mindset for streaming, it's near impossible to go back to a normal schedule, especially when you have a bunch of fans incentivizing you to be a lazy fuck as long as you show up once every month or two. Hell, they don't even have to try and be entertaining in those few streams, they just have to show up.

>>102004242
Nowhere because Cover doesn't do shit in Europe
They neglected the market, they don't get any opportunities

>>101999525
He's still a faggot falseflagger but he's not necessarily lying. The whole story is that she asked Cover to make plenty of the MioFa Fan Meeting merch so people attending could get them in time and those who didn't get picked could also still have the goods. So naturally she ended up with extras, and mentioned that they still had stock and she might have to pay for it out of pocket because it was her decision to make extras.
"Begging" is a weasel word, the goods sold out almost immediately after she made mention of it.

>>102005145
Oh okay. I didn't know that story, but that sounds extremely Mion.

As you implied though, it sounds like it was a very particular one-off event that has nothing to do with limited edition signed sets lol.

This is crazy

>>102004242
Going to HoloJP because their stream times actually align with Europe.

>>102003787
That's what it is, she's pretty parasocial and saw how many fans were sad they didn't get a chance to buy it. One of the bigger cosplayer ones was complaining about how it instantly sold out on geekjack

>>101986852 (OP)
Good thing there was less quantity than usually wouldn't want my queen to lose out on her profit margin. God forbid you take a small loss to make these worthless peons happy.

>>101986852 (OP)
Seems fine to me

>>101998519
Fake doobmate

Tariffs and Trump’s economy

Why are you fags all so bitter and catty about fucking streamers? Do any of you genuinely enjoy watching vtubers?

>bumped the thread from page ten (again) after nearly two and half hours from the last reply
kill yourself

>>101997541
She is doing what she wants.

>>102004774
>saba out of nowhere
seethe

>>101986852 (OP)
It's all the doland's fault. Worst president ever.

I mean after constant underselling of course they'd lower kiara's trash stock

>Kiara: "I don't want to sign 3 thousand cards this time KFP, sorry"
>dramatourist: HOLOLIVE HAS FALLEN

>>102027360
it's not like they'd get sold out lol

>>102027572
They literally did in 5 minutes the year prior. I don't know what you have to gain by being a lying retard.

>>101988325
three things imo:
>chronic insomnia
>feels like "she" failed as an anime/cartoon VA that's what her dream career was
>lives with her family who, unlike Ame's, seem fairly well-off and she doesn't need to pull in crazy money to support them so there's no urgency

>>101987312
but only because she's finally feminine. Thank god for that shes now my fav holo

>>101987473
Mio's merch always sold out no problem, we even had reprints of the parka so kill yourself

>>101986852 (OP)
Girl the tariffs

>>101988133
I really hope she gets fired / graduates before she ruins family members stream for everyone and if this whore is responsible for me not seeing Pekomama anymore im going nuclear

>>102027706
The thing with Kronii for me is she's exotically unhinged. Regardless of when she was more tsun and "I'm a tomboy I collab with boys now suck it virgins" she's always had a unique demeanor. And design-wise her huge tiddies were out on day 1. Ngl I sometimes miss when she was more tomboy because the gap moe was crazy. That goes for Mori too.

>>101987732
>Members stuff that she does do is basically zatsu which she does normally
So? That's normal. Most member content streams are either that or watchalongs and I hate watchalongs.

>>102027907
i was joking, i despise Kronii and Cali and are hoping they both graduate soon. There's no gap moe in any way, they are disgusting femoids and Cali is fat.

>>101986852 (OP)
this is what happens when you put all you effort in idolshit and stop streaming, you can't pull a gura and expect it to work without being gura

>>102028026
how many times are you going to reply to this thread with the same anti shit?

>>102027600
Trump and his tariffs weren’t there in 2024.

>>102028483
Wow and it still sold out in under 2 minutes, it's almost as if she clarified that she didn't want to sign the same amount of signed cards you fucking tourist retard

>>102028516
she hates her fans, got it

>>102028516
Well, yeah, she said her stock was lower this time. It’s obviously easier to sell your merch out in minutes if you set the limited stock to 500 instead of the usual 1,500 - 2,000

>>102028568
The "stock" is made to order, she wanted to sign less cards. That's it, I don't know what you get out of being or acting like an obnoxious retard.

>>102028551
Did you watch the Dodgers stream? I hate EN fans too.

>>101987965
>>101997803
>>101987151
>>101986928
The ability of seething browns to delude themselves never ceases to amaze me

>>101995046
Ahem

>>101987381
To be honest I stopped buying merch unless it involves my oshi ever since the new trump tariffs

>>101986852 (OP)
This is currently the oldest thread on the catalog that isn't a general
Also Kiara has already said onstream that she had less stock because she didn't have time to sign a lot
Watch as Kiara schizo bumps this to bump limit in the span of a few days and everyone ignores Kiara's direct onstream statements
This board is dying for a reason