Thread 101996581

They seriously left Holo just to do the same thing

>Hololive will have a studio in the US it's gonna be great we're gonna have cheaper merch
>What the studio was made for :

>>101996581 (OP)
You can just hire Ame, Yagoo, & you also get Saba for free.

here's the actual reason they left, courtesy of a former staff member

>>101996679
>numberfagging really is killing vtubing

Why did Lionel Messi leave European soccer to play for a Miami team? Because when you have enough money but love what you do and are tired of having to meet expectations, you go to a place where you can continue doing it but without pressure and at your own pace.
Aqua and Chloe are the two best examples.

>>101996732
Always has been.

>>101996806
or maybe it's because messi is reaching his 40s and by the grace of god he won the world cup before his body broke down and he can now effectively retire to do whatever he wants

>>101996581 (OP)
The main difference is that they own the IP.
They aren't VAs for the corpo's mascots.
They make choices independently, without needing permission for every step. Whatever they create belongs to them.

Working for a corpo can be profitable and even fun, but eventually, you'll leave (or be forced to), and you'll lose everything you created.

Because everything you create or achieve while working for a corpo belongs to the corpo.

>>101996679
that's the most raw representation of Hololive's decline, it bacame way too corporate and forgot that the girls doing fun activities should be the top priority, it's obvious most of them quit for that exact reason

Most of them joined simply because it's the easiest way to get an audience.
The only thing Cover can do is find more people like Suisei or Calli who need their infrastructure to achieve their goals

>>101996581 (OP)
They can grab more money from people that pay to see an anime girl on screen when seeing one is free of charge

>>101996867
>by the grace of god
I know that the 3 main monotheistic religions come from the Middle East, but I didn't know that God was a Qatari

>>101996932
yet nothing change doing the same thing you hate most

kek!!

For more creative freedom. It gets annoying to check what you can and can't do with a game. You have to play in this way because we didn't get perms for English version. You can't show this cut scene so this is the part where you have to cut it from stream. I'd leave too if I thought I could do better.

>>101996581 (OP)
And more will follow Yagoo-chan.

>>101996581 (OP)
I used to think that I was growing out of vtubers in general after losing interest in anything holo for the past 6 months but watching this concert tonight got me back into it, hololive is just too corporate and stale. No more risks everything has to be done by the will of the managers, every event has to have merch tied to it or else they won't even green light it and they have to use model technology from 3 years ago when a fucking indie some have not heard of danced and sang tonight with full motion tracking including on her fucking fingers.

>>101996581 (OP)
>They seriously left Holo just to do the same thing
>Get to do the same thing they were doing in Holo WITHOUT the fossilized JP-corpo autism/bureaucracy eating away at their sanity
It's purely astounding the lack of ANY kind of self-awareness that Holobrony tribalists have. For all the shitting they do on the corpo-worshipping Nijisisters, I find it even more kek-worthy the pure lack of any kind of self-awareness the Yagoo dick-sucking blue dorito worshippers have in that they act literally the exact same as the Nijisisters they shit on and and end up thoroughly confused why Holo chuubas get burnt out dealing with Holo bullshit and want to get the fuck out;

>>101996581 (OP)
They will do the invader thing and bring in 5 very prominent indies this year

>>101996932
"fun" doesn't usually make money.

>>101997536
lol no, past cover maybe but current cover fuck no they want to own everything they produce or will produce.

>>101997485
This post needs to be framed because Blue-doritio cock-sucker have no kind of refute to this

>>101996806
lmao going to MLS or saudi is a retirement check nothing else

>>101997573
They need to make the shareholders happy somehow and debuting a new gen from scratch isn't going to cut it. Look to them increasing interactions with 3k+ indies including the vshojo dropouts.

>>101997692
they signed a contract with the devil to get more funding for their stupid studio when they had all that money all along and decided to waste it on a shitty nft game no one plays. They can lie in their bed

>>101996679
>former staff
she was the director who was in charge of those politics and guidelines lol

>>101997919
>go public
>board of investors get bored of her idolshit
>business turns into maximum numberfagging and soulless corpo burgerslop
>heart and soul leaves
Reading comprehension zero

>>101996581 (OP)
Yeah no they left holo to get away from japanese autism and management. Yagoo fumbled the greatest talent hololive had undisputed too because i don't think there are very many other youtube creators in the world. That have 3 gold play buttons that's a very small club to be in can't be more than 5 people on that list. Yagoo and management fucked up hard

>>101998080
Apparently it's seven people thats it seven people and saba is among them let that sink in

>>101997536
yeah, nimi, dooby, saba, doki and mint

>>101996732
only seasters seethe about numbers

>>101996581 (OP)
>Yagoo spreading his idol culture toward indies
Why did he do bros.

Calling yourself an idol is just a way to grift by saying "I'll totally get better so it doesn't matter if I suck right now you need to follow me NOW or you'll be a fake fine if I get famous one day"

>>101996932
The people who quit did so because it stopped being a corporation and began expecting them to get out of their comfort zone and participate in the family fun.

>>101998080
>There can only be five people in the world who have three tiny youtube accounts.
You must be joking.

>>101996732
It kills everything. Every industry is suffering from this advanced mental illness while the same parasites that cause it feast.

They left holo to do what Holo used to do but no longer does.
You're just slow to realizing how the company has changed, at some point it'll hit you or they'll do something so egregiously obvious you can tell.

corpodrones are still acting like it's the talents fault and they're just lazy when fucking A Chan made it clear the company has gone to shit

>>101996581 (OP)
In Nimi's case, she doesn't have to travel to your stupid studio and leave her cats alone for months
With others, yeah, weird.

>>101998780
You understand nothing. You need to think, why would such a story be popular? Answer: It sometimes happens./
Of course some will say without doing, but that's Vtweeters.

>>101996581 (OP)
Look, accept it or not, it's clearly about China. Everyone that left does not agree with Cover's decision to go back to China.

>>101998640
Assert dominance.
Now Hololive dominates the corpo scene and ex-Hololive rule over the indie scene. Indies are leaning more and more over the idol aspect. Hololive basically is getting a cultural victory

>>101998829
you say this like its news

>>101998080
You know the gold button is mostly plastic right?

dooby literally told people why she left and to this day is still dealing with burnout
nimi is clearly taking it easy and even doing shit on the side like writing 2 books at the same time
saba is also just going with the flow and even said she doesn't have clear objectives with her career
shachi

but of course all of you catalogtards wouldn't know since you don't watch any streams

>>101999151
>nimi is clearly taking it easy
>Has been streaming regularly while organizing a concert
are you the same retard crying she didnt stream in 2 weeks when she had streamed 11 times in 2 weeks?

>>101996581 (OP)
They just don't want to go to Japan several times a year

>>101998874
>Cope

>>101998780
based given that 99% of them have not improved at all

>>101999151
>going with the flow
Yeah, wherever Dooby is.

>>101996581 (OP)
We must sink japan

>>101996732
numberfagging is unironically what kills startups and good companies that go public

>>101996581 (OP)
>do thing A
>do thing A but also deal with permissions, bureucracy and all kind of japanese corpo autism, be forced to travel to japan frequently
It's a mystery.

>>101996581 (OP)
I don't get this angle, from what I read, more indies want to do idol & lesbian stuff now after Dooby & Nimi kiss.
Yagoo will definitely approve, hell, at this point Dooby is not an indie avenger, but an idol sleeper agent.

>>101996679
I really don't know why they chose to sell out so hard. The company was doing fine, they were printing money, and they decide to sell the company to investors anyway and kill its soul just for slightly more money. Man I hate capitalism.

>>101997949
why did she make one of the investors a blonde prettyboy?

>>102000024
because they never saw themselves as a vtuber company, they still think they're a tech company and their metaverse project will make them billions if they just tap into the chinese market for it

>>101997949
but they still do a lot of idolshit. more than before, arguably.

>>101996581 (OP)
AAAAAIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEE

THEY CAN DO THE SAME THING BUT WITHOUT CORPO LEECHES SUCKING THEM DRY

>>101999188
streaming is nothing anon
all she has to do is stream and mocap from home
i do think nimi's case is a bit more enigmatic but in general and just like the rest she is way more relaxed with whatever she is up to

>>102000226
she was fucking at least one of them.

>>101997949
but they still do a lot of idolshit. more than before, arguably.

>>101998080
Even pewdiepie washed as he is can just start a new channel twice and he'd get 2 playbuttons or maybe mr beast on a whim can buy a gold play button for every million he has, you're stupid if you think subscribers is anything meaningful, where are her 4m subs from her previous skin?

>>102000024
Money, they all do it. Every video game company did it too. Faggots gonna fag.

Things they already did that they couldn't do while in Holo:
>mess around with their model
>play classic vidya
>interact with who they want
>not move across the world

>>101996581 (OP)
Yagoo should be smiling then. He won. It doesn't matter if Cover explodes if girls realize the strongest appeal of vtubing is being like an anime girl idol. Total cultural victory.

>>101996732
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCNLiHmEUxA
Numberfagging kills society.

>>101996732
Capitalism sucks, more news at 11

>>101999983
WHAT'S DOOBY'S END GAME!?

>>101996581 (OP)
Imagine how bad the shit was for them to do it despite all the extra money

>>101997949
we don't really see that though, they keep wasting money on useless homos.

>>101997148
marginal issue when you perform in front of stadiums full of people or get appointed Tokyo ambassador

>>101999151
>dooby literally told people why she left

she mentioned a few reasons and implied none of them was really that significant but we don't actually know the details

>>101996732
Most of media suffers from that problem, but more so with total profit earnings than actual individual numbershit people here love to sperg about like viewership or merch sales etc. You can have a streamer with 500 viewers but they still earn $150K somehow. Bad example, but individual numbers on things may not affect the final profit gain as much is the point I'm making so ultimately they just wanna see the final number. The problem gets worse by the year since things get more expensive and they need to make more money. The game industry is suffering from it and you can even see mentally ill people on /v/ waging number wars about steamchart player counts and other nonsensical shit. Numbers are the fucking devil for media and entertainment.

>>101996679
sitting through quarterly meetings with sales people is soul draining

>>101997949
Why is there only 1 female in that meeting board?
>rei quit because of m*le infestation
Once again, evidence of what REALLY is killing vtubing!!

>>101996679
jesus...