We now know what happened with X account intern and why dubais were segregated.

https://youtu.be/TjEARLZwasA?t=3429

Mori won

>>102026227 (OP)
Probably threatened to quit but this time they actually realized well fuck the others did quit so let’s listen this time

>>102026588
The hotdog eating world championship.

>>102026227 (OP)
rare mori W

>>102026613
My guess she ranted about the charity not being promoted well enough to her manager and mori's manager is known to be fucking aggressive about her stuff so she may have asked for change in person taking care of X account.

>>102026675
you don't need to guess because the literal first post is a timestamp of her talking about it

>>102026227 (OP)
the x account intern should have been fired and flayed alive years ago for pushing the faggots over the girls. most people don't follow the "main account" because it was all nonstop homospam

>>102026642
Yeah, my hotdog

>>102026227 (OP)
And now it'll continue to not promote them and just be empty instead.

>>102026737
uhuh it's followers are going to skyrocket now!

I mean the social media for Hololive is still very lacking that said

>homoshitter intern that manages the account never does his job, even infamously forgetting to promote kronii's 3D and mumei's birthday at one point (of course, tweets every time a homo takes a breath though)
>this has been a problem for YEARS, gets called out every time
>retarded homolover management doesn't care
I'm so fucking tired of homocancer holy shit man

>>102026737
and the reddit one too
like they didnt even make it plausible that they were being fair, the whole reddit got shut down for 2 days
the twitter would make dozens of posts about holostars doing nothing while ignoring songs, outfit reveals and birthdays for the girls

>>102027034
>Proof: Dreams

>>102026897
I unfollowed them over that shit, before I got banned from twitter for shitting on will assplay. now gura graduated there is no point in following. hell even the hololive app tried to default to making you follow the faggots for some reason
>>102027034
same, but like I said, no Gura no me, not my problem, too little too late

>>102027047
I just like legitimately don't understand how no one was aware that the faggot shit actively alienated the core audience

>>102027240
>No Gura no me
Gura fan admitting to being a tourist and only showing up for 1 stream every 3 months or whatever the fuck her schedule has been for the last 3 years

>>102026227 (OP)
Maybe promote your shit ahead of time and give people a more advanced notice

>>102027258
they were aware, they supported it, it was what management wanted, they were happy to force everyone into it
Everyone forgot about the game plan behind HLZNTL
They should have taken its abject failure as a sign but they kept pushing it on

the real reason they're backing off now is because HoloEarth bombed and they're nervous about whether it'll make the money in china with dubois that they had planned

>>102026227 (OP)
I mean, they need to promote it better, but the charity is a success, so why not just be grateful about it?
They promoted Ame's even less, & Ame had nothing but gratitude for it.

>>102026737
It was clearly a fujo intern
you would do the same to promote your oshis

>>102027493
no I wouldnt because my oshi wouldnt want that and I would know I am representing my oshi and if I treat other people badly it makes her look bad and she'd hate me for it
You see my oshi is a good person, unlike the rapists and their hate marketing shit

>>102027551
>You see my oshi is a good person,
Your Holo oshi feels disgusted by you and only wants your money.

>>102027551
I doubt your oshi would want you spreading delusional rrats about her coworkers.
Or, hell, spreading delusional defamatory rrats about anyone, really. No "good person" wants to be used as a flag for hate.

>>102027394
I watch panko too

>>102027675
>phasefag too
Not beating the allegations.

>>102027656
>her coworkers.
sister please at least TRY

>Stars intern(s) does their job
>Live intern(s) don't/forget
WOAH

>>102027722
>hololive girls have issues with their personal managers being dogshit at promoting them and their projects up the chain
perish the thought

>>102027715
>I would know I am representing my oshi and if I treat other people badly it makes her look bad and she'd hate me for it
so that was a lie, as expected

>>102026263
Oh shit a fujo running the account rrats were true. Extremely rare Ernoul win. I bet he's still found a way to be miserable about it.

>>102027421
of course you're a faggot

>>102027656
he is not holo en account manager either so it doesn't matter and they aren't rrats when they just straight up do it on stream

>>102026737
>>102027493
It's incredibly frustrating how the stars team is like 6 people and yet they manage to get stuff done vs the dozens people working for the girls who routinely have problems.
Like, Shiori alone has that many people due to the S-team, we still have no idea what the fuck they do or who they are (she said they are not friends).
This change should have come ages ago or at least they should have had one smm dedicated to the girls, and ideally it was someone who did not hate Kronii.

FFS their staff even managed to create an original VN about the guys (doppelganger) meanwhile we have Moom who had to call in her friends to finish not a phase, how is this possible?

>>102027970
When you're making less money and generally have less attention on you, it's easier to get shit done. Naturally things move quicker, the stakes are much lower, and management is also under pressure to take more risks and improve.
With Hololive, the stakes are much higher, there's more people involved all of whom have to put food on the table. Management is more risk averse, the production line is longer and there are more things to consider and check, they're not solely focused on growth but also sustainability -- keeping a good thing goin'.
People operate differently when the odds are stacked against them. It's the nature of the beast.

>>102028088
Ok, but "being risk adverse" does not explain why the single SMM was a fujo. With how much money the girls make, no one could be paid to be there?

>>102027968
>they aren't rrats when they just straight up do it on stream
Whoa, they raped a woman on stream? Can you link the vod? Have you notified the police?!

>>102027970
Most of the girls' managers are actively hostile to the girls and are there to protect cover, not help the girls
>Gura, you're kind of a brand risk
>IRyS not having a manager for months

>>102028151
Oh for sure, I agree entirely.
>With how much money the girls make, no one could be paid to be there?
you'd be blown away by the things corporations choose to cut costs on. a good "social media manager" doesn't attract an investor's eye as much as whatever the fuck Holoearth is and other mystical tech money pits.

>>102028179
Also on the girls side it's obfuscated due to how many layers of managers there are.

For example, I remember in the first day of enreco Advent had to stop after a couple of hours due to a meeting. This was clearly a power play between their manager and whoever was in charge of enreco.
But we have no idea who "their manager" is: was it their individual managers getting together, was it henma, do they have a generation manager? and we have no idea who the enreco manager was, if there was even an enreco manager.

And this is why I encourage most of them to go to Japan, at very least for the tea parties with Yagoo (which sounds like a euphemism but it's literally that).

>>102026675
No one has said it yet, but a big part of the 24 hr charity not doing so well might be because of a certain someone who sold a fuck ton of debut merch just a few hours before it started.

>>102028328
It did extremely well though? 220k for an Aussie animal charity is fucking great to teh point the charity is putting together something for Mori and Biboo and it had the double debuff of not being a charity for humans and not being US based.

Someone needs to compile all the proof of what the fujo intern did until the day she finally got fired for history archiving purposes

>>102028759
This >>102028328 is GG who really wanted to watch Mori play league

>>102028759
I hope Bob gives them a s/o and not that weird lookin mfer Bindi

>blaming gura's merch sales for the mori debuff
lol

>>102028862
I'm sure you will be in this thread for the next 12 hours making up more fiction.

>>102027491
The issue wasn’t just that they didn’t promote it properly, but they also tweeted and shilled Goldbullet event during it. The fujo intern in charge of twitter clearly considered shilling homoEN more important than holoEN (and that wasn’t the first time either). Makes sense that Mori was pissed when the event she and Biboo organized got sidelined for an event of a 3view-low 4view homo

>>102028862
If anything they boosted each other. numberfags still refuse to understand that two great streams on the same day, let alone two streams that aren't even overlapping, aren't competing but cooperating.
Unless the rrat that Gura has genuine bad blood with Hololive and that Hololive is a black company has somehow managed to stick with normalfags. That would be fucked up

>>102026227 (OP)
>Dubai status: made into those meme chocolates
They taste rather a lot like a crunchy Reece's imo, they're good yeah but not worth the hype markup

>>102028326
>which sounds like a euphemism but it's literally that
Anon...

>>102028981
>boosted each other.
sure if youre just watching, but if you spend a good chunk of cash on her merch then you'd have less to give to the charity

>>102029023
Most of you fuckers work in tech and have way too much to spend on vtubers so I don't think that's much of an issue. Like seriously, the people willing to spend on vtubers have no trouble spending a lot.

>>102028956
>shilling homoEN more important than holoEN
Groombullet got an absolutely standard interaction series of happybirthday.png, ‘watch the birthday stream!’ and ‘buy the birthday merch!’. Same as any other talent. It’s not more or less important, it’s the bare minimum they do on the day.

>>102029048
why would you spend on a scam charity debuffed by mori

>>102028862
>Mori and Biboo's charity stream
yeah i can see sharkie doing it

>>102028179
But helping the girls is beneficial to Cover?

>it's not mori's fault her fans don't actually commit to buying merch or attending events
>its the alleged interns fault for not spamming the announcement in a dying socmed channel!

>>102026227 (OP)
Mori's stream happened. Likely before it was even announced, since their acc was made the next day. JP corpos don't move that fast. Morons seethe about their headcanon as usual.

Holy shit this seanigger is just spamming now lmao

>>102029144
the deadbeatcord finally got a hold of the thread

>>102028328
nah 200k is around the same average as moris last charity that made like 80k+ in 11 hours i think

>>102026675
the main channel was busy spamming the groombullet stuff while the charity was happening.

>>102029143
*Segregation started before Mori's stream happened.

Companies don't hold charity drives, they hold tax burden write-off drives

>>102026737
At the very latest, the split should have happened after they didn't bother acknowledging Mumei getting 1 million subscribers for three days until they logged in to tweet about Altare's birthday

>>102028981
>the rrat
how retarded or delusional are people that they think it's a rrat when even A-chan is talking shit about the company now

>>102029056
why didn't they posted or retweeted about the charity stream then? that should be a bare minimum too for the interns.

>>102029063
it's a good charity? wdym

still not following
I have spent too long in the GRIM to be optimistic
maybe in 3months

>>102028981
how is it a rrat when one of the last things gura did as she walked out the door was release a song whose entire message was that the corpo and her antis are all retards that can seethe in jealousy for all time?
seems pretty cut and dry gura despised cover.

>>102029229
>The seanigger doesn't realize they used a well known service that makes the money never go through the person or company doing the charity drive hand's.

>>102029263
A-chan isn't talking shit about the company lmfao. The company has grown and changed a lot since she started and she wanted to downsize her life. In no part of that equation did she talk shit about the people and the work she did at Hololive.

>>102029356
I want to be a seanigger when I grow up

These are all the HoloEN charity streams btw to anyone interested
https://tiltify.com/@covercharity/amelia-watsons-hololive-for-lives-charity-stream
https://tiltify.com/@watsonameliaen/amelia-watson-4-ocean-conservation
https://tiltify.com/@moricalliope44/paws-for-a-cause-2024
https://tiltify.com/@moricalliope44/thats-wild-mori-calliope-x-koseki-bijou-24-hour-charity-stream

>>102029267
Most likely because managers need to submit these "news" for intern to tweet about. And girls mangers are not doing their job, as usual.
I highly doubt some fuckers just tweet whatever they like on corpo account as retards here seem to believe.

>>102029371
Shut up, you are not supposed to actually watch streams. Tear it down, burn it down.

>>102029371
>Depicts the company with all the color, happiness and soul gone
>Says she couldnt remain in the company because she felt like she'd be lying to people about what the company is now

>>102029353
So Gura threw the rest of the girls at Hololive under the bus? Is that what you're saying? I didn't buy it when retards said it about Fauna and I'm not buying it now. The core message of that song, if it actually mattered to you, was about her friends keeping her from giving into anger, resentment and burnout. In no way, shape or form did she ever convey that she was outright mistreated by Hololive.
>but she can't just say it outright
Then she certainly couldn't release a fucking song about it either. I think it's wrong to suggest Saba is being adversarial to her ex-colleagues. Pure dramafagging.

>>102029542
>Says she couldnt remain in the company because she felt like she'd be lying to people about what the company is now
Verbatim? Source.

>>102029144
no i just arrived

>>102029558
But anon, Cover would totally let her release a sound about how terrible Cover it!
>insert cope about how Cover didn't understand the song or something

>>102029542
>Depicts the company with all the color, happiness and soul gone
You do realize depressed people view the world that way regardless of how objectively great it actually is, right?

>>102028862
Gurawho? Didn't she graduate?

>>102029378
Save the rainforest!

>>102029400
Do have a few hours free? The list of free reigning social media managers are quite long but then my examples are only from the West.

>>102029602
Nta, but it's obviously not verbatim since she speaks fucking Japanese. She said something like "things she thought important and things she had to choose for her work gradually misaligned as she was worried she's lying to viewers". That's from her debut when she talked about the cover/MV.

>>102029657
Does it also replace soulful drawing & messages with charts & numbers?

>>102027394
>>102027702
>Oh shit a chumbud, time to make shit up and seethe at Gura some more
Truly, Gura antis are the most insufferable, obsessed and retarded vermin on the planet

>>102027790
>anon forgot this board is anonymous
woman moment

>>102028328
>Mori and Biboo charity didn't do so well
>Hmmmm how can I make this notGura's fault
Even assuming there's significant enough overlap between their audiences for this to make any fucking sense, what do you suppose Saba should have done, Sanjay? Pulled the plug on her Omocat partnership for a charity stream that was only announced after her debut date was set in stone?

>>102029056
Yeah, he literally got the same generic tweets every talent gets for their birthday, so that's a terrible example of "preferential treatment". Merch drops - especially birthday merch - are things it's basically mandatory to tweet about at a specific scheduled time because they have to be announced mid-stream.

>>102029657
>Um akshually this doesnt depict how the company lost its soul, fun and happiness, it's just that everyone got depressed being there and instantly became much happier after leaving
Powerful argument there buddy

>>102033132
still doesn't explain why the main channel never tweeted about the charity and instead decided to spam the groombullet tweets while it's happening. or homo tweets always gets the pin while the girl's tweets often gets immediately followed up by a homo tweet so it gets buried quickly

>>102027240
Gura gave up like 3 years ago mate

>>102028175
I don't care what subhuman faggots did just get them into the oven and be done with it, their 3rd world fans too.

>>102026642
These hotdogs?
Yeah, all mine.

>>102028179
most of the girls only ever had praise for their managers, IRyS was a big exception from the rule likely because it was fucking omegay

>>102027722
there was no holo intern holopro EN account was managed by the homo branch

ame is dead and all but there was an ame version of this image that made me laugh my ass off years ago and I can't find it

help a friend in need?

>>102029056
he's not any other talent sister, it's some faggot nobody likes or cares about

>>102030375
She probably wanted more homo inclusion/nijification though judging by her positive tweets about niji EN

>>102026227 (OP)
Mori sama...
I kneel

>>102034899
me when i post in the wrong thread

Imagine a rich talent getting a poor intern fired for not doing "enough" to promote her vanity project.

>>102035063
They just transfered the guy to the homo account.

>>102028862
But you'll blame the homos??

>>102026227 (OP)
Now imagine an entire branch run by similar fujo interns. That's NijiEN.

>>102027047
The funniest part of the reddit thing is that it wasn't even a "management told us to do it" thing, it was the head mod being a complete retard, and following the instructions of a FAN DISCORD. Bonus points for digging herself deeper, by claiming she WASN'T influenced by them (even though screenshots were shared showing that she was), and that she was on the server as a fan, not an employee... while using her work account, openly admitting to being an employee, and acting as an employee.

>>102036007
>she

>>102036007
>locking reddit because of seething trannies is preferential treatment for homos
If they were seething about girls they'd probably lock it as well.

>>102026227 (OP)
I only say it once, Bots don't spend money on merchandise or for charity stream

>>102029400
Given that HoloEN and StarsEN twitters got separated as a result of Mori's complaints, isn't it more believable that the one in charge of HoloTwitter was just being biased AF (unintentionally, I will give her the benefit of the doubt)?
That wasn't an one time issue but it had happened many times over the last 2 years. If it was all Holo members' personal managers' faults, you'd expect those like Mori or Kiara to get their managers fired / replaced long ago

>>102029229
>>102029356
Neither of you understand charity tax deductions. You write off revenue. If the money doesn't touch your account, you can't deduct anything. If the money is handled as a liability (i.e. it's money you're holding, but it's not actually yours; you're contractually obligated to give it to the charity) it's not revenue so you can't deduct anything. If you're handling it as revenue (e.g. "I intend to donate any money given to me during this stream, but don't guarantee it," thus no obligation, thus not treating it as a liability) then you can deduct the money, but the result is equivalent to never having recieved the money. You're taxed on `revenue - tax deductions`, so if you receive $1000 to be given to charity, you have the following: `(R + $1000) - (D + $1000) = R - D`. So your taxable income doesn't change after your fundraiser. And of course you didn't make any money by receiving then giving $1000.

You can benefit indirectly from charitable donations, but not through "tax deductions" the way many people think. The main benefits are PR, or social or financial benefits to select individuals of the company, at the expense of the company as a whole.

>>102035063
the homoposts are more vanity than Mori's charity stream, which actually does something.

>>102036545
>Given that HoloEN and StarsEN twitters got separated as a result of Mori's complaints
It wasn't. StarsEN account was made on 25-26th of June >>101601542 when Mori's stream was just announced. The decision was obviously made even earlier. OP is just a faggot.

>>102036545
You are implying that managers are easier to replace than a xitter intern. I'd imagine it's the other way round - if it was the fault of whoever is in charge of HoloTwitter they'd be fired / replaced long ago

>>102036007
and the company might have been ok if they issued a statement against the mod and fired them right after but they didnt, they were fine with it. Complaints have been mad a lot of times by a lot of people, it isnt just a case of management not knowing about it, it fits in fine with their goals

>>102038195
Keeping tranny seethe of their official reddit? Of course it fits in fine with their goals, why wouldn't it?

>>102036007
>and following the instructions of a FAN DISCORD
ok what is this, first time i'm hearing about that

>>102028326
>For example, I remember in the first day of enreco Advent had to stop after a couple of hours due to a meeting.
I still can't believe they did that. what fucking retards work at cover

>>102028759
>of not being a charity for humans
animal charities do better than human charities

>>102029093
you would think

Honestly the fact that the biggest frontline between is a fucking twitter account that retweets things everyone already knows about shows just how hard the CGDCT side won. The point where "unity" was possible was the latter half of 2022 into early 2023, and Advent debuts + Vesper/Magni graduations were a decisive one-two punch.

Since you guys are talking about Gura, I'll admit one thing, and this goes for Fauna as well. I don't watch their new models now. Because I liked the old ones. I want sharky and green hair girl back. I've tried watching their new ones but it doesn't do it for me. Not as cute to me. For sharky it's her far apart guys and those teeth looking like a silly sharky girl. It's the cute and funny thing. Saba to me just looks like a little toddler. Which is fine, but she isn't my gooraaah... Nimi is very cute with her voice, but Fauna was beautiful. That was one of the best vtuber models ever.

It's all gone now. I'm subbed and peek at their new stuff, but I'm jist not interested anymore. I guess I'm very visually picky.

>>102026227 (OP)
It was obvious from the start to anyone with a brain what the sister running that account was doing. hope they fired that filthy cunt

>>102033132
should have canceled his birthday and deported him
>>102034718
bongs aren't people

>>102034841
Gura and Kaira both made comments that implied they hated omegatroon as well

>>102035063
anyone who shills the homos deserves to be homeless

>>102039326
here you go anon. pretty sure /vt/ oldfags are familiar with that name also.

>>102029056
I wish my oshi got this "standard interaction" instead of being ignored for her 1 million subs and birthday live

>>102040363
how is that "following discord instructions?"

>>102040199
Girls don't like when goobers named Eugene are masking as a pretty boy named Omegaα. It's the kinda thing where you've either visually got it to them or you don't and they're very good at sniffing a lack of confidence out in your voice to see you as creepy too. Kiara is a prime example of this type of girl. You make one wrong move around her and she'll think you're a fucking creep.

>>102040363
ah I've heard of the person, didn't know that person was also in a fancord too, i'm not too aware of what goes on the reddit

Holo fails will never fail to make me happy.
Give that intern a promotion.

>>102026227 (OP)
I won't forget how calling out the biased Twitter had people here calling you a numberfaggot or unicorn. You retards will defend anything even when obvious bullshit is happening right in front of you. Not a single tweet about the charity btw.