Thread 102225208 - /vt/ [Archived: 279 hours ago]

Anonymous
7/13/2025, 10:28:51 AM No.102225208
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Nothing disgusts me more than seeing these spoiled rich girls publicly flaunting their wealth in shitty gacha games. If this doesn't disgust you too, you're part of the problem. Stop enabling this behavior.
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 10:30:42 AM No.102225232
they're doing it to signal to other spoiled rich girls, not to trigger you. why do you care? get a life, FAILED GAMBLERCHAN
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 10:32:07 AM No.102225254
Just fuck off, retard.
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 10:32:19 AM No.102225262
>>102225208 (OP)
>publicly flaunting their wealth in shitty gacha games
Lmao this poor fuck thinks a few hundred bucks is "wealth"
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 10:50:42 AM No.102225490
Time to superchat.
Anonymous
7/13/2025, 11:00:24 AM No.102225597
>>102225208 (OP)
Finana having chat make her a budget because she was teetering on bankruptcy after burning all the money she made when NijiEN was popular on gacha will never stop being funny.
Anonymous
7/13/2025, 11:01:50 AM No.102225612
>>102225208 (OP)
My oshi hates gambling because she has an addictive personality. That's why she uses her money responsibly.
Like spending $1000 on fortnite skins
Anonymous
7/13/2025, 11:37:48 AM No.102226046
>>102225208 (OP)
spending time or money on games that you don't even enjoy playing just because you want the "reward" is still absolutely insane to me
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 11:43:19 AM No.102226101
>>102226046
They're called soshage, social games. Games you talk about with your friends. Infinite source of conversations. You get a lot of milage out of them than from standalone titles you beat in a couple of days and maybe talk about twice.
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 11:47:51 AM No.102226155
>>102226046
I've spent thousands of dollars on Azur Lane alone, and I don't regret it for a second. You know why? Because I actually have a decent job and budget my money properly and have plenty left over to spend on whatever I want. But keep seething over how other people spend their money it just shows everyone how poor and/or bad with money you are!
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 11:55:37 AM No.102226250
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>>102225208 (OP)
>flaunting their wealth
>the standard for which is shitty gacha games, as opposed to anything exciting
man zoomers are fucked
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 11:55:43 AM No.102226253
>>102225208 (OP)
spending thousand in gacha is still better than the retarded micheal cat wasting it all on male host club (at least the cycle of life is respected i guess)
Anonymous
7/13/2025, 1:03:57 PM No.102227009
>>102226155
Spent 4 figs on PNGs award
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 1:08:29 PM No.102227074
>>102226101
>Games you talk about with your friends
dyrbi
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 1:08:56 PM No.102227084
>>102226155
You seem to explain yourself a lot for someone who doesn't regret it
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 3:39:18 PM No.102229057
>>102225208 (OP)
If your problem is flaunting wealth and not the fact that they're promoting gambling (literally in some cases like Pekora, even if you don't think gacha is gambling) that's pretty dumb.
>>102226155
There's few things more pathetic than people wasting their money on the dumbest shit and trying to play it cool because "they can afford it".
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 3:49:24 PM No.102229196
>>102226155
Even for this site is rare to see a fool being so proud of his stupidity.
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 3:58:35 PM No.102229352
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>>102225208 (OP)
Anonymous
7/13/2025, 3:59:53 PM No.102229364
>>102229057
gambling is a fundamental part of Japanese culture, stop trying to force your cultural values on them westoid
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 5:00:37 PM No.102230708
>>102226155
Burn all your money and live stream it. It would make me seethe so hard.
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 5:20:37 PM No.102231120
>>102227009
this, you could've commissioned a shit ton of the same characters in different poses and fetishes
Anonymous
7/13/2025, 6:51:49 PM No.102233065
>>102229364
Retard. They're called Holo "EN" for a fucking reason. If I wanted to consume japanese culture I would just watch a jp streamer.
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 7:21:52 PM No.102233889
>>102226046
Why are you assuming people donโ€™t enjoy them
Anonymous
7/13/2025, 7:53:30 PM No.102234686
>>102225208 (OP)
my oshi is strictly f2p as a principle
Anonymous
7/13/2025, 8:49:17 PM No.102236365
>>102227009
>>102227084
>>102229057
>>102229196
>>102230708
Waking up to a bunch of poorfags seething about what I spend my disposable income on has really made my morning thanks guys. Have you considered getting a real job and then you too can afford to pay for things you enjoy?
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 8:50:58 PM No.102236426
>>102225208 (OP)
Spent 10k on gacha last year. Can't relate.
Anonymous
7/13/2025, 8:56:11 PM No.102236589
>>102233065
>If your problem is flaunting wealth and not the fact that they're promoting gambling (literally in some cases like Pekora
>literally in some cases like Pekora
>like Pekora
>Pekora
>They're called Holo "EN"
go back and re-read the post you braindead illiterate retarded worthless fucking mongoloid, and then kill yourself for being so fucking stupid, dumbfuck
Anonymous
7/13/2025, 9:13:14 PM No.102237108
>>102236365
Mind broken
Anonymous
7/13/2025, 10:39:50 PM No.102239638
>>102227074
Yes.
Anonymous
7/13/2025, 11:40:51 PM No.102241418
>>102225208 (OP)
Honestly... you can't expect women to not throw their money away. I don't know what you thought would happen. They're not doing it out of arrogance.
Anonymous
7/14/2025, 1:15:09 AM No.102244044
>>102226250
Always have been.
Anonymous
7/14/2025, 1:21:41 AM No.102244187
>>102225262
ever watched a fubuki stream?
Anonymous
7/14/2025, 1:29:41 AM No.102244405
>>102226101
Never paid much attention to this gacha crap but yeah I noticed that the whales need the, poorfag or however you call em, to give meaning and purpose to their retarded pouring money down the drain I mean "rolling" activities. It's actually fucking insane when you think about it. Once I tried looking into the X and IG profiles of prolific artists and cosplayers. They're unsurprisingly wealthy, surprisingly good looking and somewhat surprisingly chinese, female and middle aged. That last part is what made me rethink the whole thing, I cannot think of any other demographic retarded enough to inflate the value of these shitty games and companies, at the bottom are the millions of wageslaves enabling the scam, giving the illusion of value to the whales.
Anonymous
7/14/2025, 1:32:35 AM No.102244486
>>102236365
Do you also think you're superior for buying appliances and cars with paywalled features because it makes you feel superior to "poorfags"? Lmao, your shitty "german" car will stop working once they ramp up the fees enough, my old Civic will outlive you. Same thing with your shitty gachas, once they find it no longe profittable they're pulling the plug, leaving you with literally nothing to show for it.
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Anonymous
7/14/2025, 1:37:39 AM No.102244644
>>102226250
Even VW Group has a hard time affording to make Bugattis, bro, selling em at a big loss. Imagine the ones buying them. Times have really changed...
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Anonymous
7/14/2025, 2:12:55 AM No.102245665
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>>102244644
yea maybe making a car that requires like 20k a service wasn't the brightest idea
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Anonymous
7/14/2025, 2:25:08 AM No.102246003
>>102225208 (OP)
What problem?
Anonymous
7/14/2025, 2:41:43 AM No.102246419
>>102225208 (OP)
>Poorfagging
The thread
Anonymous
7/14/2025, 2:45:57 AM No.102246520
>>102244486
jesas, this post reeks of insecurity.
Anonymous
7/14/2025, 2:48:16 AM No.102246579
>>102225208 (OP)
Not a Vtuber or a woman but I get you i used to play yugioh master duel at a competitive level and last year i counted how much money i spent opening packs of digital pngs and i felt sick in my stomach i quit shortly after the day that i had that wake up call there are better things to spend that kind of money on
Anonymous
7/14/2025, 2:48:58 AM No.102246591
>>102245665
>Ame buys her aunt a whole ass car
>Aunt starts ghosting her after
>Ame is fine with this
Cars are the ultimate flaunt
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Anonymous
7/14/2025, 2:55:34 AM No.102246733
>>102245665
Hello i'm a autistic petrol head 20k is just the cost for the tire change for it the yearly maintenance on one is even more total yearly cost of maintenance is around 50k
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Anonymous
7/14/2025, 3:02:09 AM No.102246886
>>102246733
Not to mention if you use the super special i wanna go fast speed key to unlock the motors BPH restrictions bugatti will know about it the minute you turn that key and charge you more for yearly maintenance
Anonymous
7/14/2025, 3:02:56 AM No.102246905
>>102227009
How much money have you spent on alcohol?
How much on fast food?
How much snacks?
How much during dates or hanging out with friends?
You've spent money on things that end/pass when it could've gone to something "better"

Whether gacha or something else, there's nothing wrong or wierd with spending money on temporary experiences that you find fun because ultimately we all die anyway.
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Anonymous
7/14/2025, 3:26:16 AM No.102247435
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>>102225208 (OP)
Try this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DK4ClF9Pfo Yea i have medicare but they want me to fill out some papers, it's too much of a hassle just to get a few hundred euros back. Then there is the clip about her thinking to hire a maid because she can't bother to clean and cook for herself. Then there is Subaru who already had a maid for years and recently got a boating license. She is eligable to own a yacht. The list goes on and on.
Every single Holomem is rich and the ones that quit are ungrateful bitches.
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Anonymous
7/14/2025, 4:11:04 AM No.102248263
>>102246905
Purchasing quality food is a source of energy. Gacha isn't that. Try again.
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Anonymous
7/14/2025, 4:14:33 AM No.102248325
What I really really don't understand is people who give them money. What exactly is wrong with you?
Or people who watch an ad, then buy the product in the ad. How stupid are you?

Why do such people even exist?
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Anonymous
7/14/2025, 4:16:12 AM No.102248348
>>102225208 (OP)
you are poor AND brown.
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Anonymous
7/14/2025, 4:24:18 AM No.102248529
>>102248348
And you're a nobody
Anonymous
7/14/2025, 4:45:47 AM No.102248937
>>102225232
fpbp
>>102225254
spbp
Anonymous
7/14/2025, 4:48:42 AM No.102249001
>>102236365
>enjoy
yes, i too enjoy my pointlessly expensive pixels
Anonymous
7/14/2025, 6:21:12 AM No.102251643
Guys instead of posting on 4chan all day just get a job and then you too can have money and spend it however you want, instead of seething about how other people spend their money
Anonymous
7/14/2025, 7:26:50 AM No.102253354
>gachafags spend money on gacha for themselves
>carfags spend money on cars for the opinion of others
I think gachafags win this one desu
Anonymous
7/14/2025, 7:58:32 AM No.102254079
I spent 375 on .Hack and God Hand. Mint condition, manuals included so I guess I can't talk shit.
>>102226155
Why spend so much on pngs when you buy Garage kits, pay someone to paint said kits or DIY, get and or commission doujinshi, or buy huge ass poster of your ship wife?
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Anonymous
7/14/2025, 8:01:33 AM No.102254140
>>102226155
>You NOT spending thousands of dollars on pixels shows how bad with money you are!
...what?
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Anonymous
7/14/2025, 8:13:04 AM No.102254373
>>102254140
Nah seething about what other people spend their money on is what shows that you're poor and/or bad with money. People that have money know what disposable income is, hope this helps!
>>102254079
Who says I don't? The thread was about gacha so I only mentioned gacha, but I have plenty of other hobbies I spend money on too
Anonymous
7/14/2025, 8:15:12 AM No.102254414
>>102225208 (OP)
Have money poorcel
Anonymous
7/14/2025, 8:25:15 AM No.102254606
>>102225208 (OP)
Stop being broke then retard ever try that
Anonymous
7/14/2025, 9:24:31 AM No.102255786
>spending of jpgs
PFFFTTTTTTT AHAHAHAHHAHAHA
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Anonymous
7/14/2025, 9:26:35 AM No.102255822
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>>102247435
If you're going to keep hating on Ame Fauna Mumei Gura Aqua and Shion then I'm going to keep saying Mumei has actual autism.
Anonymous
7/14/2025, 9:31:16 AM No.102255892
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>>102246905
t.
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Anonymous
7/14/2025, 9:34:18 AM No.102255939
>>102225208 (OP)
When you consider the fact that they're constantly receiving hundreds of superchats per stream, what reason do they have to pull? Their fans are basically paying them to pull.
Anonymous
7/14/2025, 9:36:44 AM No.102255982
>>102244644
why do u think they end up sell it to rimac bro
Anonymous
7/14/2025, 9:41:29 AM No.102256067
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>>102246905
>how much have you spent being a normalfag
go project on reddit
Anonymous
7/14/2025, 9:44:34 AM No.102256120
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One day, the anime girl slot machine did not exist.
Then one day, it did, and people just accepted it as normal.

This truly fucks with my head. How did we get here?
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Anonymous
7/14/2025, 9:50:49 AM No.102256225
>>102256120
EA normalised it for normies, we just have the anime girl version of EA games now
Anonymous
7/14/2025, 10:57:50 AM No.102257159
>>102256120
Gambling, fortune, and luck have always been a big deal in japan and east asia in general. Gachapons (the capsule machines) have existed for decades. Gacha games are the natural evolution of this concept.
It's not so much the fact that people are spending money on pixels that bothers me (I've whaled on MMOs before), its that these new age weebs are spending their money on a CHANCE at pixels. It's stupid to me, but hey, a fool and his money are soon parted after all.
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Anonymous
7/14/2025, 11:00:27 AM No.102257206
>>102225208 (OP)
>If this doesn't disgust you too, blah schizo babble...
It doesn't disgust me because I'm not a miserable third world poorfag like you
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Anonymous
7/14/2025, 11:04:41 AM No.102257278
>>102257206
Why is the average gachafag's argument "you hate this therefore you must be poor"? No, fag, I hate it because shelling out money for the random chance at a rare drop of a png of a anime girl I can easily find better art of on pixiv is stupid, and that's coming from someone in this hobby where we regularly send money anime girl streamers for attention.
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Anonymous
7/14/2025, 11:10:25 AM No.102257357
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I have never ever ever spent a single cent on a vtuber since I started watching around the Holo gen 2 era.
I pirate member streams.
I don't even have a YT account to give my oshi the +1 sub.
Anonymous
7/14/2025, 11:12:20 AM No.102257386
>>102256120
I blame Steve Jobs.
Anonymous
7/14/2025, 11:27:23 AM No.102257567
>>102257278
Ok so don't fork out money for gacha games then? No one has a gun to your head and forcing you to do it. The argument that you're a poorfag isn't because you hate gacha, it's because you're upset how other people spend their money.
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Anonymous
7/14/2025, 11:30:18 AM No.102257604
>>102257567
Upset is a stretch. Am I upset when people spend thousands of dollars on non-fungible money pictures? No. Do I find it borderline hilariously idiotic to that they do? Yeah I do.
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Anonymous
7/14/2025, 11:30:29 AM No.102257605
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>10000ยฅ "Peko-chan KAWAIIII!"
>Pekora spends it on gacha
what's the problem?
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Anonymous
7/14/2025, 11:31:48 AM No.102257629
>>102257605
I wish she'd put most of it back into her streams or projects instead of in slot machines.
Anonymous
7/14/2025, 11:32:30 AM No.102257643
>>102257604
Well I don't know if you personally are upset, but just look at the amount of seethe in this thread. That's why people are getting called poorfags. I have plenty of savings and long term investments so spending a few thousand on pngs is nothing to me, that's why I find it funny that people are seething about it
Anonymous
7/14/2025, 11:34:14 AM No.102257663
>>102248263
>fast food
>snacks
>quality food
You don't need to overpay to get quality food. You're pissing money away because you're retarded and lazy.
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Anonymous
7/14/2025, 11:38:47 AM No.102257732
Prophecy
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>>102225208 (OP)
ah but streamers and vtubers don't have to worry since its not their money their pissing away its yours if you donated anon :D that said if your not even enjoying gacha then you shouldnt play it with the horse gacha being fotm seems like everyone is playing it for clout i dunno if resident gacha addict sayu is fotm'ing
Anonymous
7/14/2025, 11:41:09 AM No.102257760
>>102257159
>its that these new age weebs are spending their money on a CHANCE at pixels. It's stupid to me, but hey, a fool and his money are soon parted after all
it is NOT the chance
Ever since monkeygate in Granblue Fantasy in 2016, pretty much all gacha have spark systems which ensure you won't spend even 1k bucks before being guaranteed to obtain your waifu. Many of them (like hoyo gacha and almost all high production values gachas which copy Genshin model) have the hard lock closer to $300. If you're smart with your resources you can generally do it for free.

Unlike shitty western games where rates are worse, you don't have such guarantees, the reward you get is worse because you can't even admire the face or thighs or enjoy the gameplay for years of what you pulled out of a lootbox and even if they have some sort of failsafes implemented, they're so inflated they don't really help.
Focusing on gacha as something evil proves your ignorance.
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Anonymous
7/14/2025, 11:42:54 AM No.102257783
>>102255786

>>102257663
Anonymous
7/14/2025, 11:52:56 AM No.102257926
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>>102257760
>gachas are good actually because western lootboxes are worse
What both can't be bad? You're still dropping hundreds of dollars on a png because cute/horny. And just as some gacha games have "pity systems" and transparent drop odds, so to do some lootboxes. The majority of gachas do not have this transparency so this isn't the own you think it is.
Really, the similarity is that all of them are poorly masked ways at taking advantage of main character syndrome in consumers to have very high RoI on small content releases which is bad for the industry, especially the consumer, as a whole.
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Anonymous
7/14/2025, 11:53:27 AM No.102257933
>>102248325
Cuz I like the streamer and want the product
Anonymous
7/14/2025, 11:59:54 AM No.102258021
>>102257760
Gacha is a staple of predatory monetization, FOMO, gambling and basically everything wrong with microtranscation based modern gaming. It's not a healthy practice for the end user and it needs hard regulation like any other form of gambling desu.
>ah but what about loot--
Yes those need regulations too, idiot. I believe the EU is working on that.
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Anonymous
7/14/2025, 12:06:29 PM No.102258139
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>>102257760
>Focusing on gacha as something evil proves your ignorance
Alright let's discuss this mano to mano like adults.

A game's monetization will always influence the design of the game. A game that sells for a flat dollar value is incentivized to be as good of a game experience as possible so more people buy the game. A live service game is incentivized to keep players for as long as possible, hence the reason why MMOs have adopted the dailies model so that players log on every day and keep interest in them. A gacha game is incentivized to make players spend as much as possible on microtransactions, and the design of the game will always reflect that as well.

I'm going to put Nikke on blast for a second because the 160 wall is a perfect example of this. In Nikke, you can't progress until you get 5 SSR characters to MLB, which is 4 copies of each. Why does this wall exist? Does it serve an actual gameplay purpose or make the game more interesting? It does neither; the system exists just to create frustration that might tempt a newer player to spend money. You can even see this with the free SSRs that are supposed to help you with this - they give you one on half anni and one on anni, and that's it. They could have given you Rei in addition to Kilo on the half anni and it wouldn't change the meta of the game (since Rei sucks anyway), but they did not do this; because it is not in their financial interest to make players progress past this wall any faster.

You see this littered about in many, many gacha games out there. Stamina systems, dailies, drip-feed on resources; those are not made to promote long-term strategy or whatever. They exist to build frustration in players and push them closer toward the cash shop. Gacha games in the past have even done much worse than this; it took a lot of high quality market leaders to ensure the horrendous stuff like time-limited slots get stamped out of the gacha mainstream altogether.

The point is incentives. If people are incentivized to be corrupt and prey on people, they will do exactly that. Gacha games are incentivized to push microtransactions and prey on addictive behaviors, so that's exactly what they will do. Every single time; even the supposed "f2p friendly" leaders of the space does it in spades. They just manage to hide it much better behind a veil of PR or quality or, most commonly, by bribing people with free stuff.

tl;dr gacha is predatory and the only thing they can do to make it possibly worse is add a monthly subscription to even access their games like old WoW
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Anonymous
7/14/2025, 12:18:31 PM No.102258311
>open thread
>coombrained gambling addicts glazing japan
Why am I even surprised at this point
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Anonymous
7/14/2025, 12:36:52 PM No.102258561
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>>102257926
Read the last sentence retard and stop strawmanning if you ever want to participate in a conversation in a worthwhile manner.

>>102258021
First line is true. Never argued otherwise. Your lash out at the end is a projection.

>>102258139
Finally someone with a brain, thanks anon.
What you say is mostly sound however I cannot agree with the point about microtransactions. Maybe it's different in Nikke or some other games but those I know don't actually have many microtransactions, to the point where some players are bothered by that fact and ask for more because they want to support the game but there's nothing worthwhile to purchase. Dragalia Lost was the worst offender. I ended up buying DAOKO's music because there was nothing worthwhile in game's shop.

In most of genshin clones (and they're the most important players on the market), there's really nothing to spend the money on aside from battle pass + monthly login bonus (both of which combined end up at similar price to normal subscripition fee in more traditional live service games at ~$12/mo) and rolls. Outfits are rare and other packs in the shop don't have good value. None of the IAPs are pushed on the player hard either. It used to be common in lesser titles but not in big ones. The last I remember which was aggressive with monetization was Counterside (which, coincidentally, is a gook game like Nikke, I think there lies the issue, korean MMOs were notorious for being predatory since forever too).

>Stamina systems, dailies, drip-feed on resources; those are not made to promote long-term strategy or whatever. They exist to build frustration in players and push them closer toward the cash shop.
In some smaller games, maybe. In big ones, not really. These systems exist to enforce the player will keep logging in daily, participating in all events for bread crumbs of resources, clearing all content generally. This builds routine where playing the game becomes the second nature of the player, one that isn't questioned. Long term large playerbase is the winning strategy for those games. The more time you sink into something, the more open you will be to eventually shell out for. Even if those players never end up spending money, they will at least spread the word to others who might spend money and also they will keep the community alive making sure the game keeps getting talked about.

Gacha have changed a lot over the years. Really, there are so many which are truly "f2p friendly" or only want small amount of money spent for comfortable experience. With massive size they found different ways of making money that don't rely on being super predatory. As long as you're smart, you're safe and can have a great time without falling to the money trap.

I think it also should be mentioned for fairness sake what separates gacha games from Western titles. If gacha games want to sell you the characters, they have strong incentive to make them as attractive as possible. You won't find any DEI slop there. You won't have to deal with random agendas pushed down your throat. You won't have to look at freaks of nature. Everything will be made to satisfy the player. Hot girls, cool dudes, great designs overall. Some of them even manage to have surprisingly good stories but I admit it isn't a norm since it's hard to have very impactful plots for one off quests of charas not everyone will obtain.
Music became really impressive in a lot of gacha games too. Genshin is obviously a standout where it can shock professional musicians all over the world with its high quality and brave ideas but even smaller titles have really talented people composing for them. And because they're live service titles, their libraries keep expanding.
Recently, gacha have even started pushing forward in graphics department, WuWa being a great example of a game with stunning visuals, on top of its dynamic and cinematic combat experience.
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Anonymous
7/14/2025, 12:44:16 PM No.102258681
>>102248348
I'm brown too, but I can't relate with OP, but I agree that OP is definitely poor and young.
The poors and youngsters likes to hate the rich (the person) but as I get older I realize that I should hate the system that rewards the luckiest instead of the smartest or the good. The system is rigged and I intend to change it from smaller scale.
Anonymous
7/14/2025, 12:44:22 PM No.102258683
>>102226101
Paying thousands of dollars on pngs so that you can brag to your friends about your pngs just makes you a double mark. If you actually want a conversation point with friends and you play the same game, your story of being an F2P or dolphin shitter with a brick account is just as useful without the thousands of dollars, and if it's not they don't like you, they like your money
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Anonymous
7/14/2025, 12:47:31 PM No.102258712
>>102255892
Gamble. Get it twisted. You WILL win.
Anonymous
7/14/2025, 12:47:52 PM No.102258720
>>102225208 (OP)
I want the Vtubers to whale more so global servers keep getting supported. The more vtubers whale, the more likely I'm going to be able to get Fine Motion and Transcend careers before EOS.
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Anonymous
7/14/2025, 12:49:41 PM No.102258734
>>102246733
>just the cost for the tire change
ah fuck, that's what it was
sometimes I get my QUIRKS and FEATURES mixed up
Anonymous
7/14/2025, 12:54:36 PM No.102258792
>>102258720
most of them will stop playing after a month, as always
Anonymous
7/14/2025, 12:55:48 PM No.102258803
>>102258683
it's so obvious you have no idea what are you talking about lol
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Anonymous
7/14/2025, 12:58:44 PM No.102258845
>>102258803
Saying this without any attempt to substantiate it just makes you look like a culty freak
Anonymous
7/14/2025, 2:03:16 PM No.102259719
>>102258561
>Gacha
>Good story and characters
No one is playing Blue Archive for the intricate plot or compelling characters lol. It's all about horniness, which is great if you're still an adolescent or terminally coombrained, but easily recognizable as an insidious marketing tactic otherwise.
Even that new horse gacha which in fairness isn't horny, will still be played by people who are horny for the horses. If Uma didn't have hot girls in it, it would be as popular as Monster Rancher is right now since they're practically the same game mechanics wise.
It's sad that gacha cultists like you recognize how predatory the genre is yet will go to such lengths to defend it because your cock wills you to.
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Anonymous
7/14/2025, 2:08:50 PM No.102259789
>>102259719
BA fans over the top lust is there to keep the community filtered of people like you who did indeed go into Uma in droves. The story is actually the best part and the game isn't that horny outside of a few of the swimsuits, but you didn't hear that from me, please stay away from the evil lolicon game
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Anonymous
7/14/2025, 2:09:41 PM No.102259805
>>102258561
I just came here to say that live service games need to die; east and west. You're talking about how playing and spending on your favorite gacha has become second nature to you, are willfully aware that you were programmed this way through routine, and don't see anything wrong with that.

Most gacha is slop anyway.
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Anonymous
7/14/2025, 2:14:53 PM No.102259881
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>>102259789
>you don't understand we're deliberately being vile and repugnant to gatekeep tourists like (You) out
Dollars to donuts you were one of those fags on xitter who had a melty over that northernlion clip of him making fun of the BA steam reviews, and proceeded to post Saba pictures like pic rel with some embarrassing text like "Tourist Gatekept" like it was some own while getting ratioed by everyone else.
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Anonymous
7/14/2025, 2:18:41 PM No.102259933
>>102259881
>wow you must be really upset that twitter and normalfag celebs don't like you
Do you have brain damage?
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Anonymous
7/14/2025, 2:20:53 PM No.102259970
>>102259933
BAfags act so smug about filtering tourists but crash out at the slightest criticism of their game from outsiders. This is an old attitude with new skin.
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Anonymous
7/14/2025, 2:21:27 PM No.102259982
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>>102257760
>$300 to $1000 to be guaranteed your preferred PNGs
>you're treating this like it's reasonable

Gacha is a memetic parasite and you are its zombie ant.
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Anonymous
7/14/2025, 2:22:51 PM No.102260004
>>102259970
you are swinging at the ghosts in your brain
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Anonymous
7/14/2025, 2:23:28 PM No.102260009
>>102260004
I'm reacting to the world around me. You're the one jumping at shadows.
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Anonymous
7/14/2025, 2:24:16 PM No.102260024
>>102260009
lmao
Anonymous
7/14/2025, 2:38:57 PM No.102260234
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>>102259982
I love that fucking bitch but her gacha addiction is cringe.
Anonymous
7/14/2025, 3:02:28 PM No.102260609
>>102259881
>muh Important Superior Special Demigod Totemic Oracle Philosopher Celebrity and their acolytes made fun of you, so you were wrong
>while getting ratioed by everyone else
you are a bottom of the barrel subhuman fucking midiwt whose entire opinions and identity is built out of social conformity and appealing to what the amorphous abstract invisible audience of normalfags in your head thinks and you think the opinions of random other mediocre midiwits are more authoritative someone just because they regularly appear on your screen and other midwits tell you they are Le Importante. I don't even give a fuck about Blue Slopchive or any gacha shit but muh consensus muh social norms muh Im-still-mentally-living-in-high-school-viewing-society-like-the-popular-kids-and-the-losers-scenario-because-Im-retarded-and-infantile subhumans need to be reminded how retarded you are every now and then. I will always err on the side of the weirdo underdogs like the obnoxious Blue Slopchive fags just because the majority mass of standard issue factory produced normalfaggots are always so much more viscerally irritating in their mindlessness. Kill yourself.
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Anonymous
7/14/2025, 3:15:20 PM No.102260838
I mean, I've bought a 700 dollar jacket before. I can't really throw stones.
Anonymous
7/14/2025, 4:00:44 PM No.102261604
>>102259719
>No one is playing Blue Archive for the intricate plot or compelling characters lol.
Retard. It's the only reason to play that game. Character stories are great there and so is the main plot.
If it was all about horniness, doujins would have been enough.
You're an ignorant faggot talking shit about things you have zero understanding of.
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Anonymous
7/14/2025, 4:00:53 PM No.102261610
>>102260609
Can you say all that again but without choking up in tears this time?
Anonymous
7/14/2025, 4:04:01 PM No.102261662
>>102259805
You're spending money on things which have worse return of investment all the time, anon.
You're just blinded by stereotypes and got conditioned into hating gacha specifically so you turn off your brain, don't question it, and repeat your slogans. It's easier to live your shitty life if you can pretend to yourself that other people lead their lives worse, even if it's not true.
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Anonymous
7/14/2025, 4:04:29 PM No.102261669
>>102261604
If you replaced all the girls with teenage boys would you still be playing the game for the "plot"?
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Anonymous
7/14/2025, 4:14:49 PM No.102261805
>>102261669
What kind of retarded tranny argument is this? You're the same kind of person seething that homostars never took off.
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Anonymous
7/14/2025, 4:16:00 PM No.102261822
>>102261805
That's all you needed to say. Character stories my ass lmao
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Anonymous
7/14/2025, 4:18:34 PM No.102261860
>>102261662
Pray tell what am I spending money on that has a worse investment return than gacha?
Anonymous
7/14/2025, 4:21:14 PM No.102261898
>>102261822
You not understanding that men and women are different is a shit "point". If I take Shugo Chara and just gender swap every character, it's not going to perform well. So what?
Anonymous
7/14/2025, 4:23:39 PM No.102261939
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>>102225208 (OP)
Yeah, I feel you bro. I stopped eating because there are starving people in the world. Any tips on how to purposefully collapse my right lung? I want to stand in solidarity in not being able to breathe like that one fentanyl monkey who caused a big whoop.
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Anonymous
7/14/2025, 4:24:34 PM No.102261955
>>102258311
Typical gacha slop faggots
Anonymous
7/14/2025, 4:26:07 PM No.102261986
>>102261939
Mint loves black people, you sniveling. worm
Anonymous
7/14/2025, 4:36:28 PM No.102262166
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>>102260609
>>102261604
>>102261662
Anonymous
7/14/2025, 4:50:23 PM No.102262402
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>>102225208 (OP)
Hello poor third worlder
I do agree though, you have to remember vtubers are influencers and this is marketing. They are gacha game salespeople.
>>102225262
Hello poor third worlder but unironically this time
>heh you think this is wealth???
is a poorfag larping 100% of the time
Anonymous
7/14/2025, 4:51:25 PM No.102262415
>>102226101
lol sure thing buddy
Anonymous
7/14/2025, 4:52:42 PM No.102262439
>>102246905
That you think gacha games are a substitute for wine, women and song is incredibly sad. You should be put down.
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Anonymous
7/14/2025, 4:54:50 PM No.102262477
>>102246591
average gusano family
Anonymous
7/14/2025, 4:55:20 PM No.102262487
Pretty amusing how people defending gacha ITT offer actual arguments and can express themselves in coherent manner while those attacking gacha resort to shitty memes and dismissive phrases.
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Anonymous
7/14/2025, 5:02:16 PM No.102262602
>>102259789
I'm not a gacha fag but im playing Uma right now because I love Monster Rancher.
I'm going to go out on a whim and say that Blue Archive probably sucks ass like literally every other gacha game and Uma is the only decent example in a sea of shit.
No evidence, I'm just basing this purely off of intuition.
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Anonymous
7/14/2025, 5:08:04 PM No.102262713
>>102262487
The 'actual arguments' being some variation of "let people have fun!" while fuming?
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Anonymous
7/14/2025, 5:09:23 PM No.102262739
platos cave
platos cave
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>>102260609
>SSR Important Superior Special Demigod Totemic Oracle Philosopher Celebrity X5
your brain has become trash
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Anonymous
7/14/2025, 5:10:21 PM No.102262751
>>102262713
Case in point.
Replies: >>102262800
Anonymous
7/14/2025, 5:11:28 PM No.102262774
>>102262602
BA has garbage gameplay but great stories and best 3D model chibis. Cute fun thing on a side, not a real game.
Anonymous
7/14/2025, 5:12:32 PM No.102262800
>>102262751
There are no good arguments for gacha ITT beyond that.
Anonymous
7/14/2025, 5:13:49 PM No.102262823
>>102262487
gacha addicts spend a lot of time justifying their mental illness to themselves and are ready to launch into a defensive manifesto any time someone questions their behaviour. gambling addicts are the same.
Anonymous
7/14/2025, 5:15:20 PM No.102262849
Gacha is for retards wanting to feel like they own females and are owed affection in a controlled power fantasy scenario, how is this controversial?
Gacha niggers only have two options, recovery or death
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Anonymous
7/14/2025, 5:16:27 PM No.102262874
>>102260609
>Im-still-mentally-living-in-high-school-viewing-society-like-the-popular-kids-and-the-losers-scenario-because-Im-retarded-and-infantile...
>...subhumans
i've never seen projection this bad
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Anonymous
7/14/2025, 5:33:06 PM No.102263201
>>102262849
... I play Clash of Clans
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Anonymous
7/14/2025, 5:55:47 PM No.102263659
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>>102260609
This is a delicious level of seethe. That anon really got under your skin huh?
Anonymous
7/14/2025, 6:14:47 PM No.102264025
>>102262739
midwit detected
not understanding the obvious point of describing ecelebs like this, highlighting the underlying reason that people think the opinions of some random like Northernlion has any more value than anyone else just because they have some arbitrary 'importantness' attached to them. On a subconscious level, midwits unironically believe people like Northernlion are superior humans, just like how other midwits view traditional celebrities like Hollywood actors or kings or whatever the fuck. There is literally no reason why it matters that some random fuck like Northernlion says 'gacha bad' it doesn't add any greater weight to it than if Anonymous says it, only midwits think like this.
>>102262874
another midwit detected
when I say these people who always appeal to majority normalfag opinion and say shit like 'lmao everyone is laughing at you' 'you got ratioed' etc. are viewing things in a high school 'popular kids vs losers' I mean it very literally. I don't just mean they are viewing gachafags/weebs/whichever weirdo demographic it is as 'losers' in some general sense like how another adult might say someone who hasn't got their life together is a loser - I am saying that literally on some psychological level these people actually really genuinely view adult life as still being like high school with the same teenager-y dynamics in which there are losers that you have to dunk on and bully and popular kids (normalfags) that you have to desparately try to fit in with and that appealing to what they view as the popular kids (normalfags) say is an argument somehow, that if there is a majority of popular people saying something is bad and mocking some 'loser' then that makes it the correct position just by default because fitting in with the popular kids is all that matters.
It's fucking retarded and reveals an extremely infantile mindset and that many of you fuckers have never mentally developed from high school and probably have neuroses related to it. I bet you stupid fuckers actually think workplace dynamics are just like high school too or that relationships offline irl amongst grown adults are still like high school tropes or some shit too. Retards.
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Anonymous
7/14/2025, 6:22:27 PM No.102264173
>>102262849
>Gacha is for retards wanting to feel like they own females and are owed affection in a controlled power fantasy scenario
early 2010s feminism and its consequences have been a fucking disaster for popular culture and especially internet discussion. It's crazy that even here people still unironically say things like this.
>muh power fantasy
if timetravel ever gets invented I am gonna use it solely to go back in time and assassinate whoever came up with this annoying fucking phrase when they're a baby
Anonymous
7/14/2025, 6:53:36 PM No.102264801
>>102264025
Why did you immediately assume that I somehow worship NL when all I was doing was point out how pathetic it is that you gachasloppers threw a huge fit over possibly the most milquetoast streamer on the platform. If anyone holds his opinions in importance, its the thin-skinned BA cunnychads who broke down over it instead of just shrugging it off.
Anonymous
7/14/2025, 6:56:11 PM No.102264860
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>>102225208 (OP)
>Niche that SPECIFICALLY caters to those who like spending
>Upset at said girls spending their money
the fuck anon
Anonymous
7/14/2025, 7:19:41 PM No.102265340
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>>102264025
Actually malding over his precious gacha being criticized kek
Anonymous
7/14/2025, 8:07:31 PM No.102266376
>>102225208 (OP)
Without whales, servers would shut down. I'm just happy there's people throwing money on PNGs out there, gives f2p player like me games to pass time with on my daily commute.
Anonymous
7/14/2025, 8:17:39 PM No.102266598
>>102225208 (OP)
Anon, none of the holos spend a cent on gachas. Look at the EN streams for uma musume, every single one of them has a streamer account with a birthdate of 1/1/1969. Much like gambling streamers on kick, these accounts can 'spend' thousands of dollars from the attached fake credit card and not a cent of actual money is ever exchanged. They exist to showcase the whale experience to potential buyers. This practice has been challenged in courts and is illegal ONLY if the fake accounts also have better rates, it is perfectly legal for them to pretend to gamble while secretly using house money, as long as they are playing the game regularly.
Anonymous
7/14/2025, 8:20:51 PM No.102266658
I've never paid a vtuber. Why do people do it?
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Anonymous
7/14/2025, 8:52:36 PM No.102267374
>>102248263
greasy burgers aren't, greasy pizza isn't, overloaded burritos aren't, chips aren't, sodas aren't
Unless you run the optimal human diet that never deviates and never eats unhealthy food, you can't use this argument

>>102262439
>That you think gacha games are a substitute for wine, women and song is incredibly sad
It is
Wine is temporary, something you drink in the moment to feel something in the moment, it's non permanent
When I said dates, I was more so referring to casual dates with people you're not married to, just frivolous things
Majority of music you've heard in your life you don't care about and will never care to listen to again as you've grown out of it

Temporary joy is temporary joy
You'd have a point if I compared gacha to your wife/job/child, but unless you're the most boring person alive, you have hobbies featuring temporary apparatuses
All vices are the same in conceptual essence, paying money for momentary joy
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Anonymous
7/14/2025, 9:07:49 PM No.102267719
>>102262439
>>102267374
there's no such thing as permanent joy since we are all mortal, retard, therefore your and his (really, everyone ITT's) arguments fall apart. All joy is momentary joy so therefore it doesn't matter what kind of momentary joy you have and even having a wife and kids is literally on the same level as gacha - unless you are religious and take your beliefs seriously; otherwise, shut the fuck up being a moralfag either way, none of it matters. There are no 'degrees' to temporary fullfilment or some kinds more valid than others if it all ends the same anyway.

Eat, drink and pull anime girl pngs, for tomorrow we die.
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Anonymous
7/14/2025, 9:20:39 PM No.102267996
>>102263201
Grim.
Anonymous
7/14/2025, 9:46:30 PM No.102268592
2025-07-11 - 01-38-02258
2025-07-11 - 01-38-02258
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>>102267719
I derive continuous joy from looking at my elf wife.
Anonymous
7/14/2025, 10:00:46 PM No.102268948
>>102225208 (OP)
haha horse gacha go brrrrr
Replies: >>102272230
Anonymous
7/14/2025, 10:15:04 PM No.102269291
>>102266658
F2P in gacha F2W in vtubers 4life
Anonymous
7/15/2025, 12:35:50 AM No.102272230
>>102268948
God it really never ends does it
Anonymous
7/15/2025, 1:18:46 AM No.102273331
>sunken cost fallacy
Anonymous
7/15/2025, 1:24:56 AM No.102273483
>FOMO