Kiara was once my least favorite but now she's my most watched. She's so infantalized now.

>Kiara is the best option in HoloEN now that the good members left
Grim

>>102228368
Kiara is good

>>102228368
Imagine watching the narcissist when FWMC exist.

>>102228285 (OP)
Kiara is still Jealous of Saba after all this time.

>>102228751
That's her eternal destiny. She'll always be the one that wasn't picked. She can work as hard as she wants, she can try whatever she wants, she'll never be top.

>>102228674
Imagine watching the same teletubbies episode every single week and pretending like it's good. Ruffians really are children.

>>102228674
>>102228789
y not both

>>102228789
BAU BAU!

>>102228789
FWMC's ccv has been in free fall for months
The "pretend they are the apex of vtubing" meme fell off FAST

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>>102228868
Time to get your jingling keys and baby rattle, ruffian. You have preschool tomorrow.

>>102228880
The grifter dogs fell off a cliff after the Japan Arc and it was completely deserved

I watch Kiara because she can spin a story out of everything and generally likes to stream for long hours which means lots to listen to.
I watch FWMC because they sometimes pick interedting games and usually try to stay positive.
I get annoyed at Kiara because sometimes she just complains a little too much for me to have fun with a stream or yap session.
I get annoyed with FWMC because sometimes they place way more importance on their JP tourist attracting and they cancel streams frequently.

>>102228285 (OP)
Imagine Kiara filling her diaper on stream

>>102228995
You know she's masturbated to that before. I bet she's even worn on stream.

I'm the inverse, when she debuted she was my favorite and I rooted for her hard now i'm unsubbed and don't watch her at all

>>102229029
Same for me. Didn't enjoy the voice changing, didn't enjoy the constant PL antics.

>>102228674
BAU BAU buy our merch ruffians BAU BAU

Why do you think Kiara wasn't picked? Was it truly just the accent? Just something as trivial as that?

>>102229109

>>102229232
can you imagine how rich they already are? and theyre asking poor people to give them more money?

>>102229232
>>102229265
Grifter dogs gonna grift

>>102229319
So the only non-grifters are quitters like Mumei who don't reincarnate?

How did a thread about Kiara spiral into a thread about how evil FWMC are????

>>102228827
This is a good post and a good use of AI image generation. Cute.

>>102228285 (OP)
Bijou, Ina, Bae...
For me she would be the fourth.

>>102228995
>>102229021
With Ame and Gura gone, Kiara pressures Ina into wearing diapers for her to satisfy her kink.

>>102229372
thanks anon here's a rat in the wild

>>102229667
>>102229345
>>102228827
Genius

>>102228285 (OP)
Which Holo has had the opposite trajectory? In other words, the most haggified?

>>102229109
More like BUY BUY

>>102229345
I was so incredibly disappointed to discover just how big of a fucking normie Mumei is.

>>102229639
Why does mane-chan allow this to continue without punishment... she can't keep getting away with it

>>102228991
By the way this is exactly what I meant by that, what happens in stuff like these karaokes. They sit there and say everything in Japanese, and then say small chunks of what they said in English self-dubbing. It's like a reverse of what Kiara did for the first couple of months.

>>102228991
Surprisingly reasonable take

Well... She has gotten better that much I can agree with, granted I haven't watched any of her solo streams in years because she still seems like a massive narcissist plus in her interview with korosan she was awful, but at least she doesn't destroy any collab she's on anymore so there's that.

>>102229021
Women don't really masturbate, especially ones like her.

>>102229852
Ina’s too much of a push over to complain about her diapies.

>>102228991
>FWMC are deep into their characters
>Kiara can’t go five minutes without obliterating immersion
They will never directly collab.

Another pedothread for chumpedos, pathetic.

>>102228991
Good take

>>102229345
Mumei is the hottest (model, of course) of Hololive

>>102229223
For me, she tries way too hard to be the favorite and early years had her always doing some bizarre and off-putting shit. Her weird baby thing definitely killed some appeal.

Say what you will about Gura and Ame, but those two just had fun in their early years and were naturally appealing for their chill streams. Hell, Ina was more appealing as she knew her place as the quiet art streamer. Calli and Kiara were always trying way too hard to put on a character, with Kiara being the most extreme with her weird yapping and constant shipping content. Both have gotten better with time, but Kiara still has her moments of being way too much.

>>102234956
That's because she's the ultimate try-hard. Formed by years of failure in her other hobbies she got handed a golden parachute. And instead of accepting that fate and just enjoying herself, she still felt she needs to prove to everyone that she's something special, something extraordinary. And that attitude and her history is such a turn-off. It's why she usually had the worst CCV of the 1st generation and it's why most members of newer generations also kept mogging her. And now, even with so many big hitters leaving she might have thought it's her chance to become the face of HoloEN at the very least. But instead, she finds herself closer to the bottom than the top.

>>102229021
Multiple Holo-girls have admitted wearing diapers on stream so it wouldn't be surprising

>>102236390
I assume its so they dont have to go to the bathroom in the middle of really long streams. Not for any reason like what people here are thinking of.

>>102235155
>she still felt she needs to prove to everyone that she's something special
She is and you should meet certain expectations because they're fucking idols. Holy fuck, get these normie faggouts out of my hobby please.

>>102229639
Okay now I need to see Inar art of that
And a see-through bib.
>>102237054
I dunno, it's not as big a taboo in Japan.
There's diaper fashion shows.
There's diaper roleplay bars in more loose areas of most of the big cities.
I've known several bikers, 100% of them, guys included, wear diapers, and 2 of them are in to ABDL.
It's surprisingly common.
Given half the holos, including the ones that mentioned it, show love for binkies and stupid baby play stream stuff, you can't say for sure, maybe some of them actually are in to it
It can always be pandering, this is entertainment at the end of the day and they are actors playing a persona without any set role lore beyond debut shit.

>>102228285 (OP)
Seek help Kiwawa

>>102231940
I can only hope one day they will.

>>102238769
Will Kiara make them break the 4th wall? Or will the demon dogs prevail?

>>102228827
Very cute. I seriously forgot there was a banana plushie in this, which is really funny given how Fuwawa has talked about her banana plushie a few times on stream now. Also
>Glasses

>>102228751
It's alright to be a little jealous, just not to excess. Of course she sees someone doing the same thing as her being successful and she wants that too.

>>102228368
>the never-streamers
>good members
lmao

>>102228285 (OP)
kiara is good, i just didn't watch vtubers enough to appreciate her funposting

>>102229345
Yes, and my oshi Nimi who still doesn't have super chats turned on

>>102228368
If you're going to keep hating on Kiara then I'm going to keep saying Mumei has real autism.

>>102228674
This has to be bait

>>102228368
>Streams a lot
>Put out a fairly decent amount of music
>out-going enough to try organize collabs
>Parasocial with fans
>Participate a decent amount of official/main channel events
>Doesn't being lewed/panders to coomers
Not clue why anons pretend Kiara is "bad" when basically the exact vtuber that a 1/3rd of this board is always begging for