We got BraveKR before HoloKR
StelLive, Isegye's rival, has just been bought out by Brave
https://prtimes.jp/main/html/rd/p/000000531.000044525.html
bravegroup.co.jp/en/news/9757/

>>102311674 (OP)
ok so now theyre fully brave group

I do not give a shit about Korean vtubers

>>102311674 (OP)
Good. Stay the fuck out of Korea.
That place is BATSHIT. I don't want them anywhere near anyone I care about.

>>102311674 (OP)
VShojo will be the next acquisition

>>102311674 (OP)
>bought out by Brave
It's the usual sing and dance of graduations, change priorities and name change

>>102311674 (OP)
The last corpo i thought being bought by brave.

>>102311717
The fuck? How rich is Brave Group actually? All they did so far is buying out corpos like shopping

>>102311674 (OP)
>HoloKR
Gookstans are the worst beings in humankind and yagoo knows it

>>102311674 (OP)
>HoloKR
KR market is already saturated so there's no point expanding there.

>>102311674 (OP)
>We got BraveKR before HoloKR
While that's true, they were in a defacto merger since 2024
https://bravegroup.co.jp/en/news/6018/

This is the same agreement they had with Idol before merging them

>>102311944
Brave is not a vtuber group.

As cool as holoKR might be it seems that Fagoo is afraid of entering yet another foreign market especially since EN has been performing below his expectations

>>102312835
There's no reason to do holoKR because the fanbase will demand them to speak english like they do with ID. You want them just because you know you would do this to them.

>>102312578
I love how they went from "Here lemme help you with 3D and merch" to "Okay I helped you enough, now you are part of me". Now I can imagine that other small corpos will have to think twice before accepting their offer (that's unless they already plan to give up their fate to Brave)

>>102312910
Usually when you need to have that happen, you're already on death throes as an independent entity. idol went through the same thing with Brave handling merch and etc. for around less than a year before Brave acquired them.

>>102313004
And what's funnier is that the idol_corp fans genuinely believed Brave did not buy out idol_corp and called them a kind company to give a helping hand to small corpos, only for idol_corp to be bought out and their CEO to be kicked out

Anyways are there any other small corpos that Brave gave a hand? Because they are gonna be merged next

>>102312835
>>102311674 (OP)
HoloKR will just bring another HoloCN situation, now instead of mentioning Taiwan, they do a hand gesture (or dig old tweets to prove they're "feminists" like what happened with Limbus Company). I wouldn't bother

>>102312878
the problem with holoID was that they never really broke into the ID core. the reason they started speaking English more was because it simply was better for numbers, in mo small part thanks to the EN market hole which these hacks incompetently allowed to exist (although they were still the fastest to enter)
Kobo was the first one to reach an actual Indog core and her numbers blew up for it (in her prime at least)

the thing is that there are a lot of markets that EN can't cover because the demographics just don't really speak English, spic and especially BR's for example are notorious for having no english skills and demanding their own language spaces.
the question is just if you can actually break into that market, it's a huge risk and resource investment but it can also lead to unforseen success

>>102311674 (OP)
>>102313125
Should VTubing community have the anti-monopoly laws like how the FTC tries to prevent Microsoft from buying game companies? At this rate they are doing the acceleration tactics like Anycolor, but instead of auditioning new talents, they are buying existing ones

You know that meme where the guy wonders why the biggest guy does not simply eat the smaller people to add their power to his own?
It's kinda like that, only with a big company buying a whole bunch of smaller companies (and no actual eating)

>>102313175
>spic and especially BR's for example are notorious for having no english skills and demanding their own language spaces.
And being broke as fuck. As soon as some of them even imply mildly competence in Spanish or Brazilian, prepare to never ever receive a single dollar in donations and just be swarmed with ARS akasupas.

>>102312578
they did the same with VSPO too
>>102313179
doesn't matter a lot in this case.
after Twitch Korea's closure, any Korean vtuber that wants a Korean audience streams on SOOP(formerly AfreecaTV) or CHZZK (owned by Naver, who gets a free pass from the law that killed Twitch Korea because they're domestic). they're in their own bubble, limited to either a site with Bilibili-tier UI or a site that expects foreign users to have a Korean national ID

>>102313168
>>102311674 (OP)
This

Even Korean Holofans do not wish for HoloKR because their netizens are obnoxious towards Korean women and they have many more eggshells to step on than mainland China

If anything, StarsKR would have more chances of thriving and even more freedom to do stuff than HoloKR who will have to obey the cruel and demanding female kpop culture

>>102311944
Brave is a HUGE company they have a shit ton of money. Probably more money than Hololive and Niji. They can buy as much as they want and still do well.

>>102313320
There must be a limit right? Obviously Brave has to spend tons of money to acquire a whole company, but the groups they bought are literal 2-3views. Wouldn't that put them in the red sooner or later when the profits fail to make up for the cost?

>>102311944
I'm convinced it's money laundering.

>>102313378
Probably, look at how got caught botting their EN branches

>>102313168
>HoloKR will just bring another HoloCN situation
Has it happened to Stellive or Isegye yet?

>>102312578
Who else have any prior agreement from 2024, maybe they the next one to merge.

>>102315727
Dunno about social controversy but right now isegye is in a hot water regarding song copyright and their schizo fanbase attacking others and review bomb.

>>102311674 (OP)
>Buying Stellive after its biggest fish graduated
kek

>>102311674 (OP)
Oh God please no, if you know anything about Korean internet culture the last thinf you would want is HoloKR. I bet those bastards would harass the JP and EN koreans over any drama that happens there even if they don't have anything to do with it

>>102311674 (OP)
The only things I know about this corpo, is that the last living Uto daughter is there and Airi Kanna who graduated last year and reincarnated into her PL Hebi. because she was being harassed by fans of Isegye

>>102313175
More like, ID girls failed to break into the local market, they turned to EN because it was easier for someone bearing the name Hololive.
Kobo was just lucky at the unlucky times. Countries like Indonesia gets hit hard when the global economic downturn happens and her popularity was dwindling fast because of it.

This is just not a good times to invest in some risky venture. Sticking to already mature market like JP and EN is the safest way.

>>102311944
Brave is not a vtuber company.
How many times does this need to be said to this fucking day?
They are a conglomerate.

>>102311674 (OP)
Koreans consume more anime content in English than their own language.

>>102313286
>If anything, StarsKR would have more chances of thriving
This is unironically truth, just need to make sure most of them look like pic:

>>102311674 (OP)
This is their only worthwhile deal after VSPO rumao

I don't care about Korean Vtubers in general. I only care about drunk blue rabbit aunt.

>>102313175
Is having an audience of mostly IDs even good for an ID vtuber? I’d imagine fewer western or east asian fans are better than more ID ones because they actually have money

>>102311674 (OP)
Would like to see some 3D lives on YT because of this but not sure if it would have tho...

>>102318505
It gives you the opportunity to say "hey look we have presence/are dominating in the vtubing market of this foreign country" to investors, which makes line go up

>>102311674 (OP)
How does Brave how so much money?

>>102311674 (OP)
That's typical for Brave.
With their typical strategy of buying vtuber groups and leaving them to their own devices, it's hard to tell what's gonna happen with StelLive - depending on their management and ability to attract viewers they will survive or implode spectacularly.

>>102322981
As others mentioned - by not being purely vtuber-centric corpo. Brave's purpose is just acquiring random multimedia groups and collecting money from them. This makes them technically much larger and more profitable than anyone else. They are rarely discussed on vtuber scene because there's little to no practical connection between vtuber groups they own. There's no Globie x Idol x Neo-Porte collabs and merch, they operate separately and their common thing is that some percent of revenue is going to Brave.

https://bravegroup.co.jp/en/

>>102316376
A conglomerate geared towards managing vtubers and having the assets in house to support them (a company dedicated to 3d modelling and mocap, an in house animation team that exclusively lists vtuber orisong MVs in their portfolio)
Off all the subsidiary companies in their group, their esports is the only odd one out that ISN'T vtuber focused... except they have VSPO and NeoPorte who actively take part in it.

>>102311735
no way kson is staying then if thats the case

>>102323975
They tend to just leave them alone and not manage them much though

>>102311674 (OP)
>Koreans
Any of them speak English?

>>102311674 (OP)
>Isegye's rival
how are they doing anyway

>>102311674 (OP)
Stellive EN when?

>>102323355
They need to do better

>>102323975
Correct, a powerful conglomerate that eventually ventured into the Vtubing industry, establishing a dedicated subsidiary just like a lot of the other shit they have under their wing and the rest is history.

>>102312835
>since EN has been performing below his expectations
HomoEN is not HoloEN lol

HoloKR is never happening Ayame would never allow it